Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-03-28

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Martioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos milhse shmera, se ekdhlwsh toy PASOK, sto Kentriko Katasthma ths Eqnikhs Trapezas, me qema "Koinwnikh Eyrwph, sygxrono koinwniko kratos, anaptyjh me synoxh kai allhleggyh". To keimeno ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy, einai hdh sth diaqesh sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Meta th xqesinh synanthsh Mpoys-Mpler, ejakoloyqeite na yposthrizete oti o k. Mpler, o k. Aqnar kai oi loipoi desmeyontai apo to plaisio ths teleytaias apofashs ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths E.E.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes. Yparxoyn, ejalloy, kai shmerines dhlwseis toy k. Mpler sto BBC peri aytoy. Eipa kai xqes, me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo -kai to epanalambanw- oti einai ena shmeio poy mas endiaferei idiaitera, poy prepei na prosejoyme kai na diekdikhsoyme idiaitera. Deixnei, bebaiws, kai poso swsth htan h prwtoboylia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai proedreyontos ths E.E. gia thn apofash ths 21hs Martioy, sxetika me thn eyqynh toy OHE, se o,ti afora thn politikh anasygkrothsh toy Irak. An prosejete tis shmerines dhlwseis toy k. Mpler, nomizw oti kratoyn anoikth thn prooptikh se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

ALEJAKHS: Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos sth Boylh topoqethqhke, se sxesh me thn prwtoboylia twn tessarwn kratwn ths E.E. gia thn KEPAA, shmeiwnontas oti mia parallhlia me th Synqhkh Segken endexomenws na htan dokimh. Enocei kai ths synanthshs, qa yparjei kai kapoia atyph parakoloyqhsh, antiproswpeia ekei h diaboyleysh me ta tessera krath sth synexeia, meta...

PRWTOPAPAS: Diaboyleysh, bebaiws, qa yparjei. H prwtoboylia gia thn enisxysh ths synergasias, problepetai apo ta idia ta isxyonta sthn E.E. Omws, to qema ths enisxymenhs synergasias, opws anefere o Prwqypoyrgos kai xqes, afora kyriws qemata ejwterikhs politikhs kai oxi qemata amynas, symfwna toylaxiston me ta isxyonta sthn Enwsh. Ara, xreiazetai mia poly sobarh doyleia gia na prosdioristoyn ta qemata ths koinhs politikhs amynas. Kai bebaiws prepei, enocei ayths ths synergasias, na anoijei mia syzhthsh gia tis sxeseis metajy Eyrwphs kai HPA. Ta dyo ayta qemata, dhladh oi prwtoboylies sthn kateyqynsh toy jekaqarismatos ths sxeshs Eyrwphs - HPA kai ths enisxyshs ths Koinhs Ejwterikhs Politikhs kai Politikhs Amynas, problepontai hdh ws epomenes kinhseis apo thn apofash ths 21hs Martioy. Ara, loipon, h ellhnikh Proedria qa melethsei me poio tropo qa anaptyjei ayta poy problepontai sthn apofash kai poies prwtoboylies mporei na analhfqoyn pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kaqe kinhsh, h opoia entassetai sthn idia strathgikh, opws einai h kinhsh twn "4", safws einai qetikh. Dioti, prowqei, wrimazei kai enisxyei ayth th strathgikh.

ALEJAKHS: Qa teqei stis 16-17 Aprilioy , edw, sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Diaskechs ayto to zhthma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na sas to pw ayto apo twra. Qa to melethsoyme, omws, kai qa doyme me poio tropo qa antimetwpisoyme to qema. Einai ena poly sobaro qema kai kaqe kinhsh bebaiws mporei na to enisxyei strathgika, alla oi kinhseis ths Proedrias prepei na einai idiaitera melethmenes, wste na einai kai apodotikes.

POYLIDOY: Katalabainw to rolo ths Proedrias, alla h Proedria den payei na exei kai eqnika symferonta.

PRWTOPAPAS: H Proedria, oxi. H Ellada exei.

POYLIDOY: H proedreyoysa xwra. Hqela, loipon, na rwthsw, an kata thn apoch ths kybernhshs, ta eqnika symferonta ths xwras synadoyn me ayth thn prwtoboylia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Th xarakthrizoyme oloi strathgika qetikh, kai ayto shmainei "nai". Ejalloy, einai qetikh gia th strathgikh mas. Mh qewrhqei oti ayth h prwtoboylia apanta se ola ta zhthmata poy yparxoyn. Dioti, kat` arxas h enisxymenh synergasia den exei na kanei me thn politikh amynas. Ara, den apanta se ola. Einai, omws, mia problhmatikh poy symballei wste na wrimazoyn oi synqhkes. Me ayth thn ennoia lew oti entassetai se mia strathgikh mas. Bebaiws, apo thn allh pleyra, oi dyskolies einai gnwstes. Den tis kryboyme. To qema ths Koinhs Ejwterikhs Politikhs kai Politikhs Asfaleias proypoqetei kai to jekaqarisma ths sxeseis -toylaxiston sto amyntiko pedio- metajy Enwmenhs Eyrwphs kai HPA. Kai den sas krybw -den mporoyme, ejalloy- oti yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis sthn E.E. gi@ ayto. Yparxoyn, isws, krath -kai apo ta hdh melh ths E.E. kai apo ayta poy erxontai- ta opoia exoyn mia logikh, mia qesh se mia strathgikh poy syndeei th dikh toys amyntikh politikh me thn politikh twn HPA. Yparxoyn alles apoceis, poy den sas krybw oti antistoixoyn kai sth dikh mas problhmatikh, poy apodexontai men to dialogo me tis HPA kai thn anagkh ths synergasias, alla qeloyn kai thn anaptyjh mias eyrwpaikhs strathgikhs kai politikhs gia thn amyna. Katalabainete, loipon, oti ayto to qema prepei na proseggistei me sobarothta, eyqynh kai me mia oloklhrwmenh strathgikh. H proseggish toy den qa einai eykolh. Exoyme dromo kai pollh doyleia. Kai ekei prepei na dhmioyrgoyme prwtoboylies poy na enwnoyn, na wrimazoyn synqhkes kai na pollaplasiazoyn ekeinoys poy symmerizontai thn apoch mas kai oxi na dieyrynoyme rhgmata.

ALEJAKHS: Me dedomeno oti stis 16 Aprilioy qa erqoyn oloi oi Eyrwpaioi hgetes, kaqws kai oi hgetes twn ypo entajh xwrwn, yparxei to endexomeno twn megalwn diadhlwsewn sthn Aqhna. Qa apokleistei to kentro, qa yparjoyn kapoies ryqmiseis, kapoia apagoreysh twn diadhlwsewn h otidhpote sxetiko;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh den apagoreyei diadhlwseis kai oyte prokeitai na to kanei. Bebaiws, qa laboyme ola ta anagkaia metra asfaleias, opws lambanontai kai se oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres, kata th diarkeia twn Synodwn. Qa ginei o,ti ginetai se oles tis xwres ths E.E.

GARGALAKOS: Hdh yparxei gyrw-gyrw sta synora mas mia piesh apo laqrometanastes, opws exete kai eseis paradexqei. Kai osonoypw apo o,ti fainetai qa exoyme kai piesh apo prosfyges, kaqoti sto Irak yparxei enas polemos shmera. Ti metra qa parei h kybernhsh ep@ aytoy; Protiqetai na metaxeiristei kai to kyma ayto twn prosfygwn me tis klasikes aytes meqodoys, akoma kai ths epanaprowqhshs; Kai poy na toys epanaprowqhseis aytoys toys prosfyges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Toys prosfyges aytoys -prepei prwta na toys periqalcoyme kai na toys prostateysoyme- h dikh mas problhmatikh einai oti qa prepei h epanaprowqhsh toys na ginei se omores me th dikh toys xwres. Ayto qa apaithsei, bebaiws, kai mia oikonomikh bohqeia kai alla metra. Exoyn lhfqei probleceis gi@ ayto kai eimaste diateqeimenoi na symbaloyme genikotera. Dhladh, na symbaloyme, wste na yparjei periqalch kai prostasia twn prosfygwn konta stis perioxes toys. H kalyterh lysh den qa htan oi prosfyges na metaferqoyn poly makria apo ton topo toys. Dioti, einai safes oti qa prepei na epistrecoyn meta ton polemo.

Qelw me thn eykairia na pw oti, hdh, to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn meleta tropoys enisxyshs ths anqrwpistikhs bohqeias pros to lao toy Irak. Einai ena qema poy mas apasxolei idiaitera.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O Prwqypoyrgos htan safhs sto qema ayto. Eipe oti h Ellada den antexei na dexqei neoys prosfyges.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa prin oti oi prosfyges den prepei na pane se xwres poy einai makria apo ton topo toys. Ean dhmioyrghqoyn kentra ypodoxhs prosfygwn, gia ena mikro diasthma, stis omores pros to Irak xwres, emeis qa prepei na symbaloyme, opws ejalloy exei problecei kai h E.E. Exei anaferqei kai o k. Pronti se ayto to qema. Proetoimazomaste, hdh, se ayth thn kateyqynsh gia symbolh kai bohqeia. Oxi, omws, sthn Ellada.

TAKHS: Merida toy Typoy exei shmera ena reportaz gia kapoia apelash Irakinoy, dioti eixe mia paranomh drasthriothta sth Soyda. Gnwrizete kati gi ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Rwthsa to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, alla mexri ayth th stigmh, den to epibebaiwnei.

POYLIDOY: Ektos apo thn tetramerh prwtoboylia poy lambanei xwra stis 29 Aprilioy, thn 1 Aprilioy lambanei xwra sto Loyjemboyrgo mia allh prwtoboylia epta mesaiwn kai mikrwn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, poy symfwnoyn sta qesmika. Dedomenoy oti h Ellada einai toy aytoy diametrhmatos kai mallon symfwnei sta qesmika me toys ypoloipoys epta, qelw na rwthsw ean kai pali logw Proedrias den qa symmetexei h Ellada.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti h Ellada exei thn Proedria ths E.E. gi ayto to ejamhno kai epomenws prepei na diafylajei to qesmiko rolo ths.

POYLIDOY: Mhpws einai kai ligo bolikos aytos o rolos; Dhladh, na mhn exoyme qesh dioti eimaste Proedria;

PRWTOPAPAS: To antiqeto. Mas kostizei, giati, gia paradeigma, otan milaei o Prwqypoyrgos, ws Proedria stis Bryjelles kai malista ligo prin apo krisimes synanthseis, gnwrizete oti yfistameqa kritikh. Giati den milame me bash mia syzhthsh poy qa ekane o Prwqypoyrgos ean miloyse mono me thn idiothta toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths Elladas. Gnwrizete ti kritikh exoyme ypostei gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma. Para to gegonos, loipon, oti exoyme kostos, emeis emmenoyme sto qesmiko rolo ths Proedrias, o opoios den dixazei. O rolos ths einai na ajiopoiei toys problhmatismoys kai na enwnei. Na mporei na odhghsei mprosta thn E.E. Na symbalei gia na dieyrynei ta zhthmata, gia paradeigma, sthn sygkekrimenh periptwsh ths embaqynsh ths, thn oikodomhsh ths neas arxitektonikhs ths, th dynatothta antapokrishs ths stis apaithseis twn lawn. Ara, h Proedria exei eyqynh kai barynonta rolo kai antapokrinomaste se ayton.

POYLIDOY: Antilambaneste oti apo ton Ioylio, otan qa teleiwsei h Proedria, h Ellada qa breqei enwpion sxhmatwn opoy qa exoyn hdh diamorfwqei oi sysxetismoi dynamewn kai qa trexei na prolabei, meta tis ejelijeis, se sxhmata ta opoia thn endiaferoyn. Se ayth thn anagkh pws apantate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na sas pw poy exete adiko. Stis 16 Aprilioy, qa synelqei to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, to opoio qa asxolhqei me to qema toy mellontos ths Eyrwphs. Ekei, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei thn eyqynh na synqesei tis epimeroys apoceis kai na paroysiasei sxedio, to opoio qa dwsei thn aparaithth omofwnia kai th symfwnia poy xreiazetai gia na proxwrhsoyn ayta ta zhthmata. Qa einai, loipon, oxi mono me symmetoxh ths Elladas, alla me kaqoristiko rolo ths Elladas h synqesh poy qa epelqei. Ean meta tis 16 Aprilioy symfwnei kai to epomeno bhma mesa sthn ellhnikh Proedria, poy einai piqano, katalabainete oti o rolos mas qa einai akomh pio shmantikos, sthn oloklhrwsh aytoy toy terastioy ergoy gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs. Ta zhthmata ayta den ta afhnoyme gia meta, ta lynoyme ayto to ejamhno. Ayth einai h diafora. Ean ta afhname gia meta, qa htan opws to lete.

Qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw, oti exei ginei mia synennohsh toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn me to ypoyrgeio Typoy kai tis armodies arxes allwn kratwn, gia th metafora twn 16 synadelfwn sas poy kalyptoyn to reportaz apo th Bagdath. Gnwrizete oti exoyme synexeis bombardismoys sth Bagdath kai briskontai se kindyno. Epikoinwnhsame mazi toys kai toys eipame oti yparxei h dynatothta na ginei h metafora toys me asfaleia. Polloi arnoyntai na fygoyn. Qeloyme na zhthsoyme th symbolh olwn, twn synadelfwn kai twn Meswn, prokeimenoy na peistoyn, wste na toys prostateysoyme. Katalabainoyme oti epiteloyn spoydaio ergo. Toys sygxairoyme gi ayto kai to sebomaste. Alla, h anqrwpinh zwh einai panw ap` ola.

ZOYLAS: Oi synennohseis exoyn ginei kai me antistoixes alles eyrwpaikes prwteyoyses h einai mia dikh mas prwtoboylia, den tiqetai qema gia toys jenoys synadelfoys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dikh mas prwtoboylia. Fantazomai oti opws endiaferqhkame emeis kai alles xwres qa endiaferqoyn.

ZOYLAS: Ean gnwrizete kati gi` ayto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai mia prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy. Exei ginei ena sxedio, to opoio den mporw na to anaptyjw twra. Ayto poy qelw na epishmanw einai na prostatecoyme aytoys toys anqrwpoys poy pragmati epitelesan olon ayton ton kairo spoydaio ergo.

ALEJAKHS: Yparxei sxedio gia toys Amerikanoys dhmosiografoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na gnwrizw ti kanoyn oi alles xwres.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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