Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-03-31

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Martioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas.

Shmera, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos milhse sth syndiaskech toy PASOK gia to paron kai to mellon twn mikromesaiwn epixeirhsewn. H omilia toy einai sth diaqesh sas kai se ligh wra qa einai etoima kai osa eipe ektos keimenoy. Stis 14.30, qa exei synanthsh me to Geniko Grammatea toy Arabikoy Syndesmoy Amri Moysa. O Genikos Grammateas toy Arabikoy Syndesmoy qa einai edw gia genikoterh synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy. Sto plaisio ths episkechs toy, qa synanthqei kai me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Bebaiws, qa antallagoyn apoceis gia thn krish sto Irak kai thn piqanh diejodo poy qa prepei na yparjei.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai me ton yfypoyrgo X. Paxta. Sth synexeia, qa exei diadoxikes synanthseis, paroysia twn kyriwn Xristodoylakh kai Paxta, me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs Akh Tsoxatzopoylo, me thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, ton ypoyrgo Paideias Petro Eyqymioy kai ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo, me qema thn ejelijh toy G@ K.P.S.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sthn ekdhlwsh ths Sosialistikhs Omadas toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy, sto Kaboyri. Stis 12.30, qa exei epafh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Albanias Fatos Nano, sto Megaro Majimoy. Stis 13.30, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei syskech me seira ypoyrgwn, gia to qema toy Ellhnikoy, toy Mhtropolitikoy Parkoy. Qa symmetexoyn h kyria B. Papandreoy, o k. X. Berelhs, o k. G. Papantwnioy, o k. Ey. Benizelos, o k. N. Aleyras, o ypofainomenos kai o k. T. Xythrhs. Stis 13.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Serbias k. Zifkobits kai stis 14.30 me ton Proedro ths tews Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias ths Makedonias k. Tserbenkofski. Toso oi synanthseis aytes, oso kai me ton k. Nano, ginontai me thn eykairia ths paroysias toys sto Synedrio toy Economist. Qa syzhthqoyn, omws, kai qemata amoibaioy endiaferontos, opws epishs kai ta dieqnh zhthmata. Kaqe tetoia synanthsh exei oysiastiko periexomeno. Stis 18.30, qa exei synergasia me to Grammatea toy Kinhmatos Kwsta Laliwth.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton k. G. Papandreoy kai ton k. T. Giannitsh, arxikws gia qemata poy sxetizontai me to ergo toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai gia thn ejelijh poy mporei na exei to politiko problhma ths Kyproy. Meta tis 11 to prwi, qa yparjei eidikh syzhthsh gia thn Proedria, gia tis dyo kentrikes ekdhlwseis ths Proedrias, poy qa ginoyn sthn Ellada, sthn Aqhna kai th Qessalonikh, gia tis dyo Synodoys Koryfhs, paroysia kai ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy, alla kai toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh. Qa einai, bebaiws, kai h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Allh mia dhmoskophsh "xtypa to kampanaki" gia to PASOK kai malista h teleytaia ayth dhmoskophsh poy dhmosiopoihqhke deixnei na dieyrynetai to probadisma ths N.D. Eseis, ti apoch exete, exete kapoio sxedio, prokeimenoy na mporesete ws kybernhsh na anatrecete ayto to dysmenes gia to kybernwn komma skhniko;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsto oti kaqe dhmoskophsh exei th dikh ths ajia. Kai aytes poy einai palaioteres kai den exoyn perilabei tis teleytaies ejelijeis, opws einai h sygkekrimenh poy doqhke apo th N.D. ston Typo, oso kai oi neoteres poy dienergoyntai. Kaqe mia, exei th dikh ths ajia. Bebaiws, tis meletame kai mporoyme apo aytes na exoyme arketa kai xrhsima symperasmata. Qelw, omws, na qymisw oti kai thn perasmenh tetraetia, ena xrono pro twn eklogwn, opws briskomaste peripoy ayth th stigmh, yphrxan dhmoskophseis me poly arnhtikotera apotelesmata kai telikws to PASOK kerdise tis ekloges. Ti shmainei ayto; Shmainei oti prepei na dwsoyme idiaiterh prosoxh sth doyleia mas. Shmainei oti prepei na dwsoyme idiaiterh prosoxh sta problhmata toy polith. Ayto to kanoyme. Hdh, o Prwqypoyrgos exei dwsei entolh, parallhla me ta alla zhthmata kai ta genikotera qemata ths Proedrias, na elegxqei h poreia twn 12 ajonwn politikhs poy eixame desmeyqei oti qa ylopoihqoyn mesa s@ ayto to ejamhno. Epishs, analambanontai synexws prwtoboylies, toso gia ta genikotera qemata, oso kai gia ta qemata poy aforoyn thn poiothta zwhs toy polith. Epomenws, synexizoyme to ergo mas, thn antapokrish mas sta problhmata toy polith. O poliths perimenei apo mas na antimetwpisoyme, akomh pio apotelesmatika, ta problhmata toy kai nomizw oti ayto prepei na to kanoyme, ajiopoiwntas kai th gnwmh poy mas dinei, lambanontas, an qelete, ta opoia mhnymata yparxoyn kai antapokrinomenoi se aytes tis prosdokies tis opoies exei. Etsi, mporoyme na kerdisoyme tis epomenes ekloges.

GARGALAKOS: Qa qelate na sxoliasete kai ena prwtoselido toy "Bhmatos" ths Kyriakhs poy peripoy elege oti an htan o Giwrgos Papandreoy epikefalhs toy PASOK ta pragmata qa htan kalytera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, einai dynato na sxoliazw prwtoselida efhmeridwn; O kaqenas mporei na kanei tis ektimhseis toy. Emeis kanoyme tis dikes mas.

KARGOYDH: Dedomenoy oti se 15 hmeres einai h Synodos Koryfhs gia th dieyrynsh, sthn Aqhna, sthn hmerhsia diatajh h Proedria protiqetai na epanaferei to zhthma toy Irak;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai prosdiorismeno ayto sthn hmerhsia diatajh.

KARGOYDH: Den protiqeste na diereynhsete ean yparxei analogh proqesh...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia kaqe epanafora sto qema, shmainei oti qa prepei na prosdokoyme kai kapoia ejelijh. Exete th gnwmh oti to Hnwmeno Basileio, epi paradeigmati, to opoio epitiqetai ayth th stigmh, qa allajei apoch; Fobamai pws oxi. Ean, bebaiws, mexri tote yparxoyn nees ejelijeis, poy ayth th stigmh den tis gnwrizoyme, qa ajiologhqoyn. Alla, me to fws twn gegonotwn ths shmerinhs hmeras, nomizw oti h apofash toy earinoy Symboylioy twn Bryjellwn, stis 21 toy mhna, mas dinei ena poly megalo oplo: Th symfwnia olwn gia thn parembash sthn amesws meta ton polemo epoxh kai idiaitera sto qema ths politikhs anasygkrothshs toy Irak. To qema toy roloy ths dieqnoys koinothtas mesw toy OHE, gia mas einai idiaitera shmantiko. Kai qelw na to jekaqarisw pros oles tis kateyqynseis. Qelw na qymisw oti se ayto yparxoyn symfwnies kai xwrwn poy kalyptoyn, emmesws h amesws, ton polemo. Kata ta alla, h Synodos stis 16 kai 17 Aprilioy, qa asxolhqei me to qema ths Syneleyshs ths Eyrwphs. O k. Baleri Ziskar nt@ Esten qa paroysiasei tis apoceis kai ta symperasmata toy kai qa ginei o prwtos dialogos. Den einai eykolo na lhfqoyn telikes apofaseis. Pros ayto, qa xreiastei, isws, mia nea Synodos Koryfhs. Sth synexeia, stis 16 Aprilioy, to apogeyma, qa ypografei h nomikh prajh ths synqhkhs prosxwrhshs twn deka newn kratwn-melwn ths E.E.. Kai bebaiws, stis 17/4 einai prosdiorismenh kai h eyrwpaikh diaskech.

IWANNOY: Epeidh o polemos parateinetai kai diabasame se oles tis kyriakatikes analyseis oti yparxei kai mia anhsyxia sthn kybernhsh, qa hqela na mas epibebaiwsete an einai etsi h oxi gia to xroniko diasthma poy qa krathsei o polemos kai gia tis epiptwseis poy mporei na exei sth dieqnh oikonomikh skhnh, alla kai sth xwra mas. Skeftetai h prosanatolizetai h kybernhsh gi` ayta ta ektakta metra kai an ta parei pote qa apofasisei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai shmera yparxoyn dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti den xreiazontai ektakta metra. H ellhnikh oikonomia exei gera qemelia xarh stis prospaqeies toy ellhnikoy laoy kai bebaiws kai ths kybernhshs, logw ths entajhs ths xwras mas sthn ONE. Kataferame kai exoyme poly kalytera apotelesmata, exoyme qwrakisei thn oikonomia mas kai den antimetwpizoyme tis synepeies poy qa htan idiaitera arnhtikes se opoiadhpote allh periptwsh. H oikonomia mas exei gera qemelia, antexei se aytes tis katastaseis kai h kyria merimna mas einai na krathsoyme chla toys ryqmoys ths anaptyjhs, na dwsoyme thn apanthsh poy perimenei apo mas o ellhnikos laos sto meizon qema ths anergias. To gegonos oti kai h anaptyjh kratietai chla kai to endiaferon toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia to G@ K.P.S. einai, opws blepete, synexes kai to akoysate kai prin apo ligo, kaqws kai oi qetikes epiptwseis poy exoyme sto metwpo ths anergias mas peiqoyn gia thn orqothta ayths ths epiloghs. Bebaiws, kamia oikonomia den einai atrwth. Kai otan se ena dieqnes epipedo yparxoyn problhmata, otan paramenoyn se idiaitera ychla epipeda oi times toy petrelaioy, otan yparxoyn problhmata se ola ta eyrwpaika xrhmatisthria, otan emfanizontai kroysmata kerdoskopias kai sthn agora -kai dinoyme idiaitero baros se ayto- einai logiko na eimaste se egrhgorsh, se etoimothta, na parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta tis ejelijeis kai na parembainoyme se aytes me bash tis apofaseis poy phrame sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Einai safeis kai oi xqesines dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Nikoy Xristodoylakh poy eginan sthn ERT.

Apo ekei kai pera, qelw na jekaqarisw oti h paratash aytoy toy polemoy, poy einai agnwston, ayth th stigmh, poso qa diarkesei, deixnei kaqara poso epesan ejw stis ektimhseis toys ekeinoi poy miloysan gia ena grhgoro kai eykolo polemo. Deixnei kaqara poso lanqasmenes analyseis eixan kanei. Kai bebaiws deixnei poso aytos o polemos, pera apo tis laqos epiloges poy piqana oi empneystes toy eixan kanei, den eixe pragmatikh bash h den eixe thn aitiologia poy qa epeiqe kai gia toys skopoys toy h kai gia tis epiloges poy yphrjan. Einai safes oti aytos o polemos paramenei adikaiologhtos sta matia twn lawn kai oloi parakoloyqoyme tis oleqries synepeies toy. Prwta apo oloys tis biwnei o laos toy Irak, kaqws kai oloi mesa apo ta problhmata poy yparxoyn ayth th stigmh sth dieqnh kai eyrwpaikh oikonomia. Parola ayta, toylaxiston, h dikh mas oikonomia -opws tonisa- exei gera qemelia. Mporoyme na eimaste hsyxoi oti me epagrypnhsh, prosoxh, eyqynh kai sobarothta th xeirizomaste.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Mporeite na mas peite ti symbainei me th Soyda kai me to amerikaniko aithma na perifroyroyn sta xwrika mas ydata;

PRWTOPAPAS: To aithma ayto den egine kai den mporoyse na ginei apodekto.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Emeis phrame kapoia ektakta metra;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoy yparxoyn problhmata lambanoyme ta anagkaia metra.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: An antapokriqhkame sto amerikaniko aithma h estw na enisxysame emeis tis peripolies, ayto rwtaw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoy mporei na yparjoyn problhmata, oi armodies ellhnikes arxes epilambanontai kai ta lynoyn. Epomenws, den exoyme anagkh kanenan apo ejw.

KALARITHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yphrje kapoia diaforetikh ektimhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn kai Amynas gia to qema sto opoio anaferqhke o synadelfos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi.

ALEJAKHS: Oi plhrofories apo th Soyda anaferoyn oti yparxei ena kentro epixeirhsewn poy froyrei thn perioxh kai elegxei toys Amerikanoys kai se ayto den exei logo to Naytiko. Exete tetoia plhroforhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: To genikotero elegxo kai thn eyqynh thn exoyn oi ellhnikes arxes. Me bash tis symfwnies kai tis synqhkes poy yparxoyn, alla kai th genikoterh politikh poy akoloyqoyme sthn ylopoihsh aytwn twn symfwniwn, dexqhkame na dwsoyme tis dieykolynseis.

ALEJAKHS: Ton prwto logo, dhladh, sth fylajh ton exoyn oi ellhnikes arxes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dynato na ton exoyn alloi se ellhnikh bash; Yparxoyn oi synqhkes poy problepoyn poies einai oi sygkekrimenes dieykolynseis kai ti sygkekrimena mporei na kanoyn ekei ta ploia twn HPA.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sth shmerinh omilia toy o Prwqypoyrgos ekfrazei mia anhsyxia gia thn pagkosmia krish poy yparxei me ton polemo sto Irak kai gia thn abebaiothta sto mellon. Diabazw mia frash toy: "H Ellada den einai xwra, xwris symferonta, xwris stoxoys kai kyriws den htan pote kai den einai shmera xwra xwris kindynoys". Stamataw ekei poy leei "xwris symferonta". Otan milame gia to Irak ti shmainei symferonta;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den anaferetai bebaiws se symferonta ths xwras sto Irak. Me ton polemo poy yparxei sto Irak dhmioyrgeitai mia seira zhthmatwn poy anafyontai kai stis sxeseis mas me tis HPA kai stis genikoteres ektimhseis mas poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn Toyrkia kai thn astaqeia poy parathreitai sth xwra ayth kai sth genikoterh ektimhsh twn symferontwn mas sthn perioxh. Ola ayta ta symferonta, ta eqnika mas symferonta, ta synektimoyme kai me bash ayta kaqorizoyme th stash mas.

ALEJAKHS: Apo ayrio, epishmws, anoigei oysiastika h toyristikh periodos mesa se dysmeneis synqhkes. H proqesh ths kybernhshs gia th diafhmistikh ekstrateia gia enisxysh toy eswterikoy toyrismoy qa mpei se fash ylopoihshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws kai qa ginei tetoia ekstrateia gia thn enisxysh toy ellhnikoy toyrismoy, opws epishs meletame kai opoiodhpote metro mporei na symbalei sthn enisxysh kai toy eswterikoy toyrismoy. Gnwrizete oti exoyn ginei kinhseis pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Apo thn allh h epikoinwniakh ekstrateia gia thn enisxysh toy ellhnikoy toyrismoy sto ejwteriko gia na apodwsei qa prepei na ginei sthn katallhlh xronikh stigmh. Kai ayth exei na kanei me thn poreia lhjhs toy polemoy.

PEGKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei kati neotero, sxetika me to an h Toyrkia zhthse epishmws thn ekdosh toy aeropeirath;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei ginei kati tetoio mexri stigmhs. Bebaiws o aeropeiraths qa dikastei me bash toys ellhnikoys nomoys. Shmera apologeitai. Kai me thn eykairia, na sas pw oti kapoia stigmh qa prepei toylaxiston na exoyme thn eilikrineia na anagnwrizoyme oti kai se ayton ton topo ginontai kapoia kala apo tis armodies kratikes arxes. Gia paradeigma, einai safes oti yphrxe mia acogh leitoyrgia twn armodiwn kratikwn arxwn kai twn arxwn Asfaleias gyrw apo to qema ths antimetwpishs ayths ths aeropeirateias, toso ston tropo poy yphrje o kybernhtikos xeirismos, oso kai to qema poy xeiristhkan oi arxes Asfaleias kai ton aeropeirath kai efqasan sthn telikh ejoydeterwsh toy. Qelw na parathrhsw oti h emmonh orismenwn na mhdenizoyn thn pragmatika shmantikh doyleia poy egine apo tis arxes Asfaleias, den ejyphretei th xwra kai thn eikona ths, otan ayth h doyleia pragmati eixe ginei. Den ta ekane ola o Erntogan, opws espeysan na poyn orismenoi. Epiteloys, as mh mhdenizoyme th doyleia poy ginetai sth xwra mas kai kaqista thn Ellada mia apo tis pio asfaleis xwres ston kosmo kai dhmioyrgei ena kalytero klima gi` aythn enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Ayto einai mia eqnikh ypoqesh, oxi gia kommatikes h alles skopimothtes na epixeiroyme na meiwsoyme kai aythn.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa eixate dikio an h enhmerwsh erxotan kai apo tis ellhnikes phges, dioti h lhjh ths aeropeirateias egine gnwsth apo to CNN Turk mesw toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, o Toyrkos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, den hjere poia xronikh stigmh elhje h aeropeirateia. H pragmatikh lhjh ths aeropeirateias -dioti anaggelqhkan tesseris diaforetikes- egine gnwsth meta apo thlefwnhma toy k. Xrysoxoidh se mena kai apo mena pros toys politikoys syntaktes. Kai ennow gia th syllhch toy aeropeirath. Ayth htan h pragmatikh lhjh ths aeropeirateias. Treis fores prin eixan anakoinwsei orismenoi th lhjh, alla o aeropeiraths htan eleyqeros kai kaneis den mporoyse na diabebaiwsei oti ayta poy exei panw toy den einai opla h den einai ekrhktika. Loipon, epeidh parakoloyqhsa apo to grafeio moy poly konta to ti egine, plhroforhqhkame oti dhqen o k. Papandreoy exei milhsei me ton k. Fiser, kati poy oydepote egine. Plhroforhqhkame oti to aeroplano qa fygei na paei sth Germania kai oydepote eixe apofasistei kati tetoio. Plhroforhqhkame oti qa fygei to aeroplano na paei sthn Toyrkia kai oydepote eixame apofasisei kati tetoio, an htan dynaton. Kai plhroforhqhkame oti eixe lhjei h aeropeirateia, enw o aeropeiraths kykloforoyse eleyqeros me toys dyo pilotoys mesa sto aeroplano. Kai ayto htan cema. Ayth einai h pragmatikh eikona ths katastashs kai den qa eprepe na parasyrontai kapoioi apo to ti leei to kaqe jeno kanali.

KOYIN: Kyrie Ekproswpe, omws, h k. Poylidoy exei dikio, giati h dhlwsh poy ekane o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn sto sygkekrimeno kanali -den exei shmasia poy thn ekane- ontws dhmioyrghse enan problhmatismo gia to ti ginotan.

PRWTOPAPAS: Tesseris fores xreiasthke na diaceysw ekeino to brady sygkekrimenes katastaseis. Tesseris fores. Elegan orismena kanalia oti feygei to aeroplano na paei sth Germania. Ti shmainei, oti isxyei ayto; Den htan swsth h dhlwsh toy Toyrkoy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn.

POYLIDOY: Ma, htan "zwntanh" h dhlwsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, entajei, alla den shmainei oti htan kai pragmatikh, oti aphxoyse kai thn alhqeia, otan o allos den eixe syllhfqei kai htan eleyqeros kai etoimazotan, poios jerei ti na kanei me toys pilotoys. H lhjh ths aeropeirateias egine me th syllhch toy drasth. Ayth htan h pragmatikh lhjh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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