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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Martioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos, opws gnwrizete, ayth th stigmh, tajideyei gia tis Bryjelles, opoy -arga to meshmeri- qa enhmerwsei to Eyrwkoinoboylio gia ta apotelesmata ths earinhs Synodoy Koryfhs.

Ayrio, h Boylh qa synedriasei ektaktws, me prwtoboylia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ystera apo synennohsh me ton Proedro toy Swmatos, me bash to arqro 142 toy Kanonismoy ths. Qa ginei enhmerwsh ths eqnikhs antiproswpeias, toso gia ta apotelesmata ths earinhs Synodoy Koryfhs, oso kai gia th genikoterh optikh ths Elladas, gia thn krish sto Irak.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei se ekdhlwsh toy PASOK, poy ginetai sto xwro ths Eqnikhs Trapezas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H epixeiroymenh eisbolh twn Toyrkwn sto Boreio Irak exei dhmioyrghsei entonoys problhmatismoys sthn pagkosmia koinothta, sthn E.E. -akomh kai h Ellada exei ekfrastei etsi- kai egkymonei megaloys kindynoys gia thn eyryterh perioxh, alla kai gia thn idia thn Ellada. Me entypwsiase h dhlwsh kai h qesh ths Italias yper ths Toyrkias, yper ths eisbolhs. Kai ayto bebaia ypodhlwnei, gia allh mia fora, oti sthn E.E. ta pragmata einai mperdemena. Oti akoygontai pali fwnes, oi opoies den syntassontai me th genikh qesh ths E.E. Qa hqela na moy peite, pws blepete kai pws xeirizetai h Ellada ayth thn ypoqesh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti apo thn arxh yphrjan sxetikes anafores mas gyrw apo thn prooptikh mias tetoias eisbolhs. Bebaia, apo o,ti fainetai, den exei pragmatopoihqei mexri shmera, dioti yparxoyn kai genikoteres pieseis apo dieqneis paragontes pros thn Toyrkia. Apo thn prwth stigmh, eixame ekfrasei thn antiqesh mas se opoiadhpote toyrkikh eisbolh sto Irak. Giati, mia tetoia energeia, oxi mono qa htan safws antiqeth me to chfisma 1441 toy OHE, alla giati einai safes oti mia tetoia energeia qa dhmioyrgoyse genikoteres periplokes sthn hdh ejairetika taragmenh perioxh. Se kaqe periptwsh, qymisame kai qymizoyme pros thn toyrkikh pleyra oti, toso oi apofaseis toy OHE, oso kai oi apofaseis ths E.E., miloyn gia plhrh sebasmo ths edafikhs akeraiothtas toy Irak kai meta ton polemo kai fysika thn prostasia twn meionothtwn. To epixeirhma poy arqrwnoyn oi Toyrkoi, oti yparxei qema prosfygwn, den dikaiologei se kamia periptwsh eisbolh. Bebaiws, yparxei problhma prosfygwn. Alla to problhma ayto qa eimaste etoimoi na to antimetwpisoyme. Gnwrizete oti h idia h E.E. exei apofasisei na diateqoyn shmantika kondylia pros ayth thn kateyqynsh kai yparxoyn sxetikes anafores toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Giwrgoy Papandreoy, gia th lhch prwtoboyliwn pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Ara, an h Toyrkia qelei na antimetwpisei to problhma toy piqanoy kymatos prosfygwn sto edafos ths, as synennohqei me thn E.E., to dieqnh paragonta kai ton OHE gia na labei thn anagkaia bohqeia.

Se kamia periptwsh, h eisbolh den dikaiologeitai. Mas briskei antiqetoys. Einai ejw apo to pneyma kai tis apofaseis toy OHE. Kai bebaiws, proeidopoioyme, gia allh mia fora, oti den prokeitai na yparjei zhthma h na dexqoyme kanena qema poy na afora thn edafikh akeraiothta toy Irak kai thn prostasia twn meionothtwn se ayto. Exoyn ginei sxetikes energeies apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai eidika apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Kai, pros to paron, yparxoyn diabebaiwseis apo thn toyrkikh pleyra oti den epikeitai kapoia tetoia eisbolh. Kratoyme, omws, epifylajeis kai emeis, dioti epaneilhmmena h toyrkikh pleyra exei xrhsimopoihsei th gnwsth diglwssia.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Einai gnwsto pagkosmiws oti h Toyrkia einai o dieqnhs tarajias. Prwta, yphrje eisbolh sthn Kypro kai den timwrhqhke. Twra, epixeirei mia nea eisbolh. Foboymai oti pali den qa timwrhqei kai dierwtwmai, poios einai pleon o rolos twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn kai ths E.E., dioti diabazw shmera oti h E.E. etoimazei sxetika kondylia. Kai an den kanw laqos, qa doqoyn kai 7,5 ekatommyria dolaria apo thn Amerikh gia na ejeymenisoyn thn Toyrkia na mhn mpei sto Boreio Irak. Den katalabainw poy phgainei h dieqnhs dikaiosynh. Edw einai xaos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Katalabainete oti oson afora to Irak, exoyn egerqei para polla erwthmata gyrw apo to qema ths dieqnoys nomimothtas. Apo ekei kai pera, epeidh mia endexomenh emplokh ths Toyrkias qa dhmioyrghsei polla peraiterw kai sobara zhthmata, exoyme ekfrasei thn antiqesh mas. Apo o,ti blepw, omws, analogh antiqesh -kai exei diamhnyqei pros thn toyrkikh pleyra- exei ekfrastei dieqnws apo polles xwres kai idiaitera apo megales dynameis. Fainetai oti h Toyrkia to skeftetai idiaitera kai den mporoyme na poyme oti h eisbolh einai sigoyrh. Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta oles tis ejelijeis.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: An yparjei mia opoiadhpote kinhsh apo thn Toyrkia, h ellhnikh kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Proedria qa symfwnhsei me aytes tis fwnes poy yparxoyn sthn E.E., wste na yparjoyn kai kyrwseis sthn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh aytes oi apofaseis den lambanontai me ypoqetikes erwthseis, qa hqela na sas pw oti exoyme apeyqynei oles tis sxetikes proeidopoihseis pros thn toyrkikh pleyra. Exoyme ekfrasei thn antiqesh mas. Exoyme milhsei kai me ton OHE, alla kai me alles xwres poy diadramatizoyn enan eyrytero rolo sthn perioxh. Qa parakaloysa na meinoyme mexri edw, efoson den exei ginei kati allo apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh ayjanontai oi plhrofories oti yparxei meizon problhma anqrwpistiko sth Basora, alla kai se alles perioxes toy Irak, hqela na rwthsw, an h Proedria, dedomenhs kai ths prosfaths apofashs ths Synodoy, qa analabei prwtoboylia oytws wste na yparjei amesh eisroh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias se aytes tis perioxes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti stis apofaseis ths earinhs Synodoy Koryfhs yparxoyn sxetikes probleceis. Yparxei desmeysh ths E.E., me eishghsh ths ellhnikhs Proedrias, gia thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sto Irak. To qema einai oti, shmera, katw apo aytes tis dyskoles synqhkes, h dioxeteysh mias tetoias anqrwpistikhs bohqeias qa prepei na syndeqei me to genikotero rolo ths dieqnoys koinothtas sto Irak. Eimaste, loipon, se anazhthsh tropwn kai meqodwn, prokeimenoy na efarmosoyme ayth thn apofash. Mas endiaferei poly na staqoyme plai ston amaxo plhqysmo toy Irak kai na dwsoyme anqrwpistikh bohqeia. Bebaiws -epanalambanw- ayto prepei na syntaytistei me energeies poy aforoyn th genikoterh paroysia ths dieqnoys koinothtas ekei. Ayth th stigmh, qa yphrxe problhma dioxeteyshs. Poios qa elambane ayth th bohqeia twra;

Amesws meta th lhjh toy polemoy, oytws h allws qa yparxei meizon qema anqrwpistikhs bohqeias sto Irak. Qa prepei, loipon, na yparxei genikoterh paroysia toy OHE kai ths dieqnoys koinothtas sthn perioxh, toso gia thn periqalch twn amaxwn kai thn paroxh sxetikhs bohqeias, oso kai gia th xarajh twn mellontikwn kinhsewn, gia th genikoterh anasygkrothsh toy Irak. Kai se ayto qa epimeinoyme. Kai otan lew "anasygkrothsh", ennow politikh anasygkrothsh, prwta apo ola.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Sthn apofash twn "15" sto earino Symboylio, problepotan mia synedriash toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE akribws gi@ ayto to qema, gia na parei panw toy thn ypoqesh kai na lhfqoyn apo ekei oi apofaseis. Gnwrizete, ws kybernhsh, ws Proedria, an exei kanonistei mia tetoia synanthsh; Giati, fantazomai h paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias qa einai, isws meta ton polemo. Rwtw, omws, an yparxoyn diplwmatikes kinhseis gi@ ayth th synedriash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai shmera, to Symboylio Asfaleias exei mia synedriash, poy ginetai me prwtoboylia toy Arabikoy Syndesmoy. Bebaiws, qa yparjoyn kai alles. Qa yparjoyn kai prwtoboylies twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Qelw na sas qymisw oti, anejarthta an merikes apo aytes tis xwres, eite kalyptoyn politika, eite symmetexoyn sthn eisbolh, exoyn desmeytei sthn E.E. gia thn paroysia toy OHE stis metepeita ejelijeis kai th diamorfwsh twn ejelijewn, sth synexeia, meta ton polemo, katw apo thn omprela toy OHE. S@ ayto, exei desmeyqei kai to Hnwmeno Basileio, poy metexei energa stis polemikes epixeirhseis. Ayto qelw na to qymaste, dioti einai ena zhthma poy qa anakinhqei, amesws meta th lhjh toy polemoy. Den gnwrizw poies qa einai oi apoceis poy qa diatypwsoyn oi HPA. Ayto, omws, poy qelw na tonisw einai oti, apo oles tis eyrwpaikes xwres, yparxei desmeysh kai to qema fysika qa erqei ston OHE.

IWANNOY: Exw dyo erwthseis. Mias kai to epanalabate ayto arketes fores gia to rolo toy OHE...

PRWTOPAPAS: To epanelaba giati qa to broyme syntoma mprosta mas.

IWANNOY: Oi HPA, omws, exoyn deijei hdh deigmata oti oysiastika exoyn achfhsei ton OHE. Ti sas kanei na pisteyete oti twra qa allajei kati kai mexri poy mporeite na to trabhjete, dioti sthn prosfath antiparaqesh, as to poyme, me tis HPA, telikws parameristhke o OHE. Dhladh, twra ti qa kanei h Eyrwph, ean h Amerikh den dexqei ton OHE na mpei sto paixnidi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw ean oi HPA den exoyn bgalei arketa kai xrhsima, kai gi aytes tis idies, symperasmata apo olh ayth th diadikasia. Exw thn entypwsh oti qa synaxqoyn arketa kai xrhsima symperasmata kai gia tis HPA kai gia thn koinh gnwmh sto eswteriko ths.

IWANNOY: H Eyrwph qa meinei apostasiopoihmenh sto qema toy polemoy mexri teloys; Blepoyme oti sto qema ths Bagdaths diaforetika eixe skefqei h Amerikh aytes tis exqroprajies. Ap@ o,ti fainetai yparxei megalh antistash kai oti poly megalos ariqmos -milame gia xiliades, ean ginei etsi- amaxoi anqrwpoi endexomenws na xasoyn th zwh toys. Yparxei kapoios problhmatismos apo thn pleyra ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia th stash ths Eyrwphs, se ayto to qema; Ean telika fqasoyme ekei, qa parembei h qa meinei ametoxh mexri to telos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoiadhpote parembash, katalabainete, oti mporei na ginei mono sto plaisio ths dieqnoys koinothtas. Kai ayto shmainei oti prepei na exoyme symfwnhsei, toylaxiston me tis tesseris eyrwpaikes xwres, poy einai ekei, gia na mporoyme na poyme oti einai mia parembash synolika ths Eyrwphs. Memonwmenes parembaseis mporei na yparjoyn. Oloi qa qelame na stamathsei pio grhgora o polemos. Gia na milhsoyme, omws, gia organwmenh parembash ths Eyrwphs, prepei na yparxei symfwnia aytwn poy apoteloyn thn Enwsh kai eidikotera twn xwrwn poy metexoyn sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE. Den fainetai oti yparxei mia tetoia symfwnia mexri stigmhs, gia na eimaste safeis. Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta tis ejelijeis. Ean doyme oti yparxei piqanothta askhshs mias prwtoboylias poy mporei na apodwsei karpoys, na eiste bebaioi oti qa thn analaboyme.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Hqela na rwthsw, ean h synanthsh twn ypoyrgwn Oikonomikwn thn erxomenh ebdomada, qa ginei sta Xania h skeftetai h kybernhsh na allajei thn topoqesia poy qa ginei ayth h synanthsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw ayto. Qa synennohqw me ton k. Xristodoylakh kai qa sas pw. Me thn eykairia na sas pw oti h synanthsh twn ypoyrgwn Dikaiosynhs, Dhmosias Tajhs kai Eswterikwn, poy einai programmatismenh, qa ginei sth Beroia, kanonika.

BITALHS: Parakoloyqwntas oles aytes tis hmeres kai tis thleoptikes eikones kai ta osa metadidoyn ta dieqnh Praktoreia, blepoyme oti yparxei enas shmantikos ariqmos amaxwn anamesa sta qymata, poy proerxontai kai apo toys bombardismoys. Deyteron, anakoinwqhke oti h Basora, sthn opoia yparxoyn polloi amaxoi, qa einai pleon stratiwtikos stoxos. Qa yparxoyn, dhladh, epixeirhseis bombardismwn. Qelw na rwthsw, loipon, me dedomeno oti yparxei, en pash periptwsei, ayth h dieykolynsh kai aytos o anefodiasmos twn aeroskafwn poy epixeiroyn sto Irak kai apo th Soyda, an me bash ola ayta ta gegonota poy emplekoyn kai amaxoys, poy bombardizontai politikoi stoxoi, skefteste na janadeite ayto to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti olos o kosmos blepei ayth th stigmh tis ejelijeis poy yparxoyn me toys bombardismoys poy bebaiws exoyn kai qymata amaxoys kai fobamai oti qa exoyn poly perissoteroys to epomeno diasthma, dioti einai safes (apo tis plhrofories poy se oloys sas erxontai) oti oi HPA allazoyn thn taktikh toys. Ayto to epishmainoyme ws ena idiaitera arnhtiko shmeio aytoy toy polemoy. H dieqnhs koinothtas prepei na bgalei ta symperasmata ths. Den yparxei kalos polemos. Oloi oi polemoi exoyn polla qymata kai stratiwtes, neoys anqrwpoys dhladh, apo oles tis pleyres twn emplekomenwn, alla kai amaxoys, poy den mporoyn oyte oplo na shkwsoyn, oi opoioi yfistantai tis arnhtikes synepeies toy polemoy, synepeies tis opoies yfistatai ayth th stigmh oloklhrh h anqrwpothta. Gi ayto eimaste antiqetoi ston polemo. Gi ayto exoyme tonisei thn antiqesh mas pros oles tis kateyqynseis. Kai gi ayto den symmetexoyme. Apo kei kai pera, gnwrizete poly kala oti, opws kai oles oi xwres, etsi ki emeis thrhsame tis symfwnies poy eixame ypogracei. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn, gia paradeigma, shmerines anafores toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths Gallias, sthn idia kateyqynsh. Kai gnwrizete poia einai h stash ths Gallias apenanti sto polemo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Emeis thrhsame, alla h Amerikh den thrhse tis apofaseis toy Symboylioy Asfaleias. Hrqe se antiqesh.

MPOYATAR: Hqela na rwthsw, ean telika qa symmetasxei h Ellada se ayth th synanthsh koryfhs gia thn amyna, poy qa ginei sto Belgio, stis 29 Aprilioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Ellada exei thn Proedria ths E.E. Bebaiws, kaqe prwtoboylia poy ginetai gia thn prowqhsh ths koinhs ejwterikhs politikhs kai politikhs asfaleias, ypo th strathgikh ths ennoia, mas briskei qetikoys. Alla, qetikoys gia thn prowqhsh ths strathgikhs ths koinhs ejwterikhs politikhs kai politikhs asfaleias. Qewroyme tetoies synanthseis ws eykairia antallaghs problhmatismoy, ws prwtoboylies poy prowqoyn ayto ton problhmatismo, poy prowqoyn me sygkekrimena bhmata kai symballoyn wste na wrimazoyn oi synqhkes gia apofaseis sthn E.E. sthn kateyqynsh ths koinhs ejwterikhs politikhs kai politikhs asfaleias. Ayto einai ena qema terastias shmasias gia thn Eyrwph. Ena qema poy qa mas apasxolhsei idiaitera enocei ths Diakybernhtikhs kai fysika kaqe prwtoboylia poy symballei ston problhmatismo kai thn wrimansh toy einai qetikh.

MPOYATAR: Den moy apanthsate ean qa symmetasxei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa perifrastika. Sas eipa oti eimaste Proedria.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: H Proedria den paei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Proedria phgainei kai kalyptei kinhseis poy exoyn kapoio genikotero qesmiko rolo.

POYLIDOY: Gia th syneleysh, qa ginei mia ektakth Synodos Koryfhs stis 16 Aprilioy h stis 30 Ioynioy; Giati sto dieqnh Typo ``paizoyn'' kai oi dyo hmeromhnies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai oi dyo hmeromhnies isxyoyn. Stis 16 Aprilioy to prwi qa lyqoyn ta zhthmata poy den lyqhkan stis Bryjelles. Opws gnwrizete stis Bryjelles kai me prwtoboylia toy Proedroy ths Syneleyshs k. Baleri Ziskar nt` Esten apofasisthke na ginei anabolh ths syzhthshs, logw ths epibarynshs ekeinwn twn hmerwn apo thn krish sto Irak. Apofasisthke, omws, stis 16 Aprilioy to prwi, sthn Aqhna, sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn poy qa ginoyn edw gia th dieyrynsh, na teqei sth Synodo Koryfhs kai to qema, to opoio den teqhke stis Bryjelles. Ara, qa exoyme thn eykairia, stis 16 Aprilioy, na lhfqoyn apofaseis, na syzhthqei bebaiws to qema kai na lhfqoyn apofaseis se mia seira ekkremothtes poy yparxoyn. H oristikh, omws, apofash gyrw apo to qema ths Syneleyshs, gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs, programmatizetai na lhfqei stis 30 Ioynioy, se mia synodo poy piqanotata qa ginei stis Bryjelles, se mia ektakth synodo koryfhs, eidika gi ayto to qema.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H ypografh prosxwrhshs qa ginei kanonika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginei kanonika. Ayto den anaireitai. Dhladh, qa lyqoyn arxika oi ekkremothtes kai sth synexeia, qa programmatistei h telikh synodos koryfhs.

MPOYATAR: Einai sigoyro, dhladh, oti qa ginei ayth h synanthsh...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Stis 16 Aprilioy einai sigoyro.

MPOYATAR: Stis 30 Ioynioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejartatai apo th synanthsh ths 16hs Aprilioy, alla programmatizetai na ginei. H telikh apofash qa lhfqei, kata pasa piqanothta, stis 30 Ioynioy, ypo thn proypoqesh oti den qa exoyme endiamesws kapoio problhma.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxoyn kapoies kinhseis toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy gia to qema twn Koyrdwn poy eipe o k. Kwnstantinidhs; Gnwrizete kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papandreoy milhse me ton k. Anan, opws kai me polloys paragontes ths dieqnoys koinothtas, ton k. Gkrosman kai alloys, gyrw apo ayto to qema.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei sygkekrimenos kataggeltikos logos apo thn pleyra ths Elladas gi@ ayto to shmeio; Exoyme katalhjei kapoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, ekana, prin apo ligo, dhlwsh gi@ ayto. Exoyme ekfrasei safws thn antiqesh mas. Den dikaiologeitai apo tipota mia tetoia periptwsh.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Prin apo thn enarjh toy polemoy, o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn eixe pei oti den qa lhfqoyn prosqeta metra, ektos ki an oi polemikes epixeirhseis diarkesoyn gia poly. Twra, poy fainetai oti parateinetai to xroniko diasthma twn polemikwn epixeirhsewn, antimetwpizei h kybernhsh to endexomeno lhchs prosqetwn metrwn gia th qwrakish ths oikonomias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den blepoyme, ayth th stigmh, to logo gia kati tetoio. H oikonomia mas, opws blepete, antexei, mporei kai jeperna to problhma. Apo ekei kai pera, parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta tis ejelijeis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H Ellada proetoimazetai gia kapoio kyma prosfygwn, giati o Nomarxhs Ebroy "shkwnei ta xeria chla", den exei pleon lefta na synthrhsei toys prosfyges poy hdh yparxoyn ekei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn lhfqei sxetika metra kai sas ta exw anakoinwsei. Exei doqei shma apo ta armodia ypoyrgeia pros oles tis yphresies kai ton kratiko mhxanismo se olh th synoriakh grammh. Exoyn labei ta metra toys kai yparxei kaqestws epagrypnhshs, me oles tis dyskolies poy yparxoyn, bebaiws. Gia paradeigma, moy elegan xqes -poy briskomoyn gia thn parelash sth Rodo- oti yparxei terastia piesh apo prosfyges sthn perioxh twn qalassiwn synorwn.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ti shmainei ayto, k. Ypoyrge;

PRWTOPAPAS: Piesh apo laqrometanastes. Yparxoyn synexeis prospaqeies eisodoy laqrometanastwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Afora th fregata "Koyntoyriwths": Eipate oti den symmetexei stis polemikes epixeirhseis. Wstoso, yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories oti einai se perioxh poy diejagontai polemikes epixeirhseis kai malista to plhrwma ths ekane kai prolhptika emboliasmo kata toy anqraka.

PRWTOPAPAS: H fregata einai gia allo skopo, opws einai kai polles alles fregates apo polles xwres poy den symmetexoyn ston polemo. H apostolh ths afora th symfwnia poy exoyme kanei me th dieqnh koinothta gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias. Bebaiws, prolhptika kai gia opoiadhpote periptwsh, lambanontai metra gia thn prostasia twn naytwn mas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Epeidh einai dyskolh h dioxeteysh ths anqrwpistikhs bohqeias, den tiqetai ena qema ekexeirias, anakwxhs h otidhpote allo gia na swqei o kosmos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na eiste bebaioi oti ama mporoysame na to eixame kanei, qa to eixame kanei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: To zhtate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na eiste bebaioi oti an mporoysame na to eixame kanei, qa to eixame kanei. Exoyme ekfrasei thn antiqesh mas kai exoyme zhthsei na stamathsei, oso to dynato, pio grhgora aytos o polemos.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kai ena deytero erwthma: Gia na katalabw ti eidoys emplokh mporei na exei o OHE h h E.E., meta ton polemo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Piqanotata den qa yparxei kybernhsh sto Irak, kat` arxhn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ayto lew. Ean qa einai xwris proypoqeseis. Dhladh, efoson yparxei monomerhs katoxh apo thn pleyra twn HPA, einai dynaton o OHE h h E.E. na emplakei, eite gia anqrwpistikh bohqeia...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kyriws o OHE, bebaiws. H E.E. qa symbalei sto plaisio toy OHE. Den mporei na skopeyei na paei aytonoma. Loipon, bebaiws qa einai dynaton. O k. Mpler, h kybernhsh toy Hnwmenoy Basileioy, exei symfwnhsei sthn E.E. se ayth thn prooptikh. To idio kai o k. Aqnar kai o k. Mperloyskoni.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Xwris na exei logo gia thn politikh lysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti oi eyrwpaikes xwres, oi opoies symmetexoyn emmesws h amesws sthn eisbolh, exoyn symfwnhsei kata thn earinh Synodo twn Bryjellwn, oti prepei sth synexeia na analabei o OHE thn politikh diaxeirish toy problhmatos. Sas qymizw thn apofash. An, apo ekei kai pera, exoyn allh apoch oi HPA, ayto qa to doyme. Alla, as frontisoyn kai oi Eyrwpaioi symmaxoi toys na jekaqarisoyn orismena pragmata.

Sas eyxaristw.

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