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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Martioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qelw me idiaiterh ikanopoihsh na shmeiwsw tis xqesines dhlwseis toy ekproswpoy ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs kai toy armodioy Epitropoy ths E.E. k. Fergoigken. Shmera, dhmosieyetai sth germanikh efhmerida ``Ntoitse Tsaitoyngk'' synenteyjh toy k. Ferxoigken opoy anaferei, metajy allwn kai ta ejhs: ``H kybernhsh sth Leykwsia ekproswpei, basei toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, oloklhro to nhsi. Epishmws to Maio toy 2004 qa anhkei sthn E.E. oloklhrh h Kypros. Alla, ena prwtokollo sth Synqhkh Dieyrynshs qa diasafhnizei oti to koinotiko kekthmeno den qa efarmozetai sto Borra. Ayto, omws, mporei na allajei ana pasa stigmh, molis symfwnhsoyn oi Kyprioi''. Epomenws, me neoteres dhlwseis toy kai o k. Ferxoigken dieykrinizei oti h entajh ths Kyproy qa proxwrhsei kanonika. Qa entaxqei h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, h opoia ekproswpei nomimws olo to nhsi. Anagnwrizetai to Dieqnes Dikaio kai h isxys toy. Kai, bebaiws, krateitai zwntanh kai h prooptikh -kai me th shmerinh kai me tis xqesines dhlwseis- epilyshs toy Kypriakoy. Tonizetai me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo, oti h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh qelei na ypenqymisei sthn Toyrkia, oti h dikh ths eyrwpaikh poreia perna mesa apo thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy. H ellhnikh Kybernhsh qa synexisei (kai ws Proedria ths E.E. kai ws kybernhsh ths xwras) na ergazetai systhmatika pros thn kateyqynsh ayth, panta se stenh synergasia me thn kybernhsh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai ton Proedro Taso Papadopoylo.

Pisteyoyme oti sto epomeno xroniko diasthma, h Toyrkia, ypo thn piesh kai ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, alla kai ths E.E. qa ypoxrewqei na allajei th stash ths kai na dhmioyrghqoyn kai pali oi synqhkes gia thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy.

Einai idiaitera qetikes -kai ofeiloyme na tis epishmanoyme- oi xqesines dhlwseis twn ekproswpwn ths E.E., alla kai oi dhlwseis poy eginan apo ton Ekproswpo toy Steit Ntipartment, o opoios anagnwrise oti h eyqynh gia thn mh epiteyjh lyshs, se ayth th fash, ofeiletai sthn adiallajia ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas

BITALHS: Epeidh kai shmera epanalabate mia eyxh perissotero h kai mia problech taytoxrona, oti h Toyrkia qa anagkastei na allajei grammh pleyshs sto Kypriako. Ta teleytaia pente xronia epanalambanete synexws kai proswpika kai blepete oti ta gegonota kai oi politikes poy anaptyssontai apo thn allh pleyra sas diaceydoyn. Poy sthrizete ayth thn ektimhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean prin apo pente xronia sas elega oti h Kypros qa entaxqei me omofwnh apofash sthn E.E, xwris asteriskoys kai yposhmeiwseis, piqanon na moy legate oti eimai aisiodojos kai oti ayto den prokeitai na ginei. Gnwrizete poly kala oti me th doyleia mas, me th dhmioyrgia qetikwn sysxetismwn sthn E.E., kataferame ayto poy kapoioi pisteyan oti den qa einai dynaton: Na proxwra h entajh ths Kypro akwlyta kai na exoyme stis 16 Aprilioy, thn ypografh gia thn entajh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias sthn E.E.. Ayto einai mia megalh ellhnikh nikh kai ofeiletai sth dikh mas prospaqeia kai thn prospaqeia toy kypriakoy laoy. Ofeiletai sth dhmioyrgia dieqnwn sysxetismwn kai sthn prospaqeia poy kaname ola ayta ta xronia. Den prepei na to jexname. Den prepei na to xarizoyme. Htthqhke diplwmatika h Toyrkia se ayth thn periptwsh. Ayto den htan kaqoloy tyxaio. Htan apotelesma polyxronhs kai systhmatikhs doyleias, kaqws kai ths kateyqynshs ths politikhs mas. Qeloyme thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths Toyrkias. Alla kai oi Toyrkoi prepei na katalaboyn poly kala oti h politikh kalhs synergasias kai geitonias, alla kai h idia h eyrwpaikh poreias ths, th dhmioyrgia me ayto ton tropo orwn staqerothtas kai anaptyjhs sthn perioxh, perna mesa apo thn epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: H dhlwsh toy k. Ferxoigken, poy pragmatika einai poly spoydaia, otan leei oti h Kypros mazi me tis alles ennea xwres, thn 1h Maioy 2004 qa ginoyn plhrh melh ths E.E., mhpws exei kai mia piesh pros thn Toyrkia oti olo ayto to diasthma qa prepei h Toyrkia na allajei proswpo politikh kai filosofia, wste na mporesei kai h idia na proxwrhsei epilyontas prwta to Kypriako, gia na mpei kai h toyrkokypriakh pleyra sthn E.E.

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayto kaneis den qa eixe antirrhsh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mhpws twra pairnei ta hnia h E.E. gia na proxwrhsei lysh toy Kypriakoy, feygontas apo ta Hnwmena Eqnh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti yparxei energos paroysia ths E.E. se aytes tis ejelijeis. Ayto den shmainei oti egkataleipetai o dieqnhs organismos, o OHE. Shmeiwnw oti xqes o k. Anan, dhlwse oti h protash toy paramenei sto trapezi. Ara, loipon kai mesw toy OHE kai mesw ths E.E. synexizetai h prospaqeia.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Pisteyete oti h eklogh toy k. Erntogan sthn Prwqypoyrgia, para tis aparadektes dhlwseis toy, mporei na allajei kati; Qa leei alla pragmata apenanti ston Ntenktas kai sth stratiwtikh hgesia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa kriqei apo tis prajeis toy.

MIXAHL: Eipate me emfash oti htthqhke diplwmatika h Toyrkia kai oti ayto prepei na to leme. Pragmati etsi einai. Omws, to qema einai ean h ellhnikh kybernhsh epediwke th diplwmatikh htta ths Toyrkias h anazhtoyse mia lysh sto problhma, opws edeije se oles tis energeies ths kai to gegonos oti pia h htthmenh Toyrkia, giati na mhn aisqanqei kai h idia ayth thn piesh kai na mhn symbalei, ws tapeinwmenh -an qelete- se mia epilysh toy problhmatos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epiqymoyme na lyqei to politiko problhma ths Kyproy. Apo kei kai pera h Toyrkia edwse mia diaforetikh maxh. Edw kai arketo kairo exei htthqei h politikh ths kai den ginetai apodekth apo th Dieqnh Koinothta. Den eimaste eytyxeis gi ayto. Qa hmastan ean h Toyrkia synergazotan kai enisxyotan h poreia epilyshs toy Kypriakoy, alla kai h eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Ayto qa mas ekane -xrhsimopoiw ayth thn ekfrash, anejarthta ean einai swsth h oxi- na aisqanomaste pio aneta kai oxi na antimetwpizoyme mia aparadekth toyrkikh politikh, opws ayth poy ekfrasthke apo tis teleytaies dhlwseis. Emeis qa synexisoyme sthn politikh poy akoloyqoyme ta teleytaia xronia. Ayto einai to mhnyma. Qa synexisoyme staqera thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme, mesa stoys Dieqneis Organismoys kai thn E.E., thn politikh ekeinh poy antilambanetai thn Toyrkia, ws melos ths Eyrwphs, me thn ekplhrwsh, bebaiws, kai twn ypoxrewsewn ths. Kyria ypoxrewsh ths einai h epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos.

POYLIDOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eseis lete oti qa akoloyqhsete thn idia politikh, omws o k. Basos Lyssaridhs omogalaktos kommatika politikos apo thn Kypro dhlwse xqes anakoyfish apo thn ejelijh toy nayagioy twn synomiliwn. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe politikos einai eleyqeros na diatypwnei tis apoceis toy. Den qelw na sxoliazw toys alloys.

POYLIDOY: Aisqanqhkate eseis anakoyfish;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy aisqanqhkame, to ekfrasame. Eipa, xqes, oti dystyxws -kai xrhsimopoihsa ensyneidhta ayth th lejh- den yphrje h prosdokwmenh qetikh ejelijh sto Kypriako. Kai prosqesa oti ayto ofeiletai sthn adiallajia ths Toyrkias, tonizontas oti emeis qa synexisoyme, giati mas endiaferei h lysh. H allh pleyra exei thn eyqynh. Gia mas, omws, den htan ayto to zhtoymeno. Makria apo emas oi logikes. Gia mas to zhtoymeno einai na lyqei to problhma. Gi` ayto emeis qa synexisoyme kai to kanw safes.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, shmera jekina kai o dialogos, se epipedo yphresiakwn paragontwn, genikwn grammatewn ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn, gia to qema ths yfalokrhpidas. Meta th Xagh poia einai h ektimhsh sas, poies oi epidiwjeis kai poies oi bleceis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai gi` ayto to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa epanelqw ayrio se ayto to qema. Opwsdhpote mia qetikh ejelijh sto Kypriako qa apoteloyse kai to kleidi gia na dhmioyrghqoyn genikotera qetikes ejelijeis se mia seira apo alla zhthmata poy apasxoloyn toso emas, oso kai th geitona xwra. En pash periptwsei, ayth h qetikh ejelijh den yphrje kai ayto antikeimenika den eynoei parapera ejelijeis se ayth th fash. Kanw, omws, safes oti emeis qa synexisoyme sthn idia politikh, stoys idioys stoxoys, sthn idia poreia.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa synexisete thn prospaqeia na ejeyreqei kapoia lysh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Genika sto plegma ths sxeshs mas me thn Toyrkia. To kanw safes.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Kai thn akoloyqoymenh politikh; Bash ths opoias peraiterw syzhthshs gia thn kybernhsh paramenei to Sxedio Anan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai ayto to exoyme pei. Kai o Genikos Grammateas toy OHE to exei pei kai h E.E. to exei pei oti sto trapezi einai to Sxedio ayto. Bebaiws, exoyme milhsei gia diapragmateysh ep` aytoy. O Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Tasos Papadopoylos exei milhsei gia diapragmateysh se mia seira shmeia toy Sxedioy. Alla, exei milhsei gia diapragmateysh, oxi aporrich.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: To gegonos oti h kybernhsh exei programmatisei dyo syskeceis ayth thn ebdomada gia th diaqesh twn kondyliwn toy G@ KPS, synista eyqeia paradoxh twn kaqysterhsewn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Oi dyo syskeceis ginontai me diaforetiko antikeimeno. Einai allo to antikeimeno ths shmerinhs syskechs kai allo ayto ths Paraskeyhs. Sth shmerinh syskech ginetai syzhthsh epi ths oysias, pws ejelissetai h aporrofhsh kai h diaqesh twn porwn, gia toys skopoys, gia toys opoioys proorizontai kai oxi monon texnika. Oxi monon poies einai oi nomikes desmeyseis kai poio einai to pososto aporrofhshs, alla kai se poia erga exoyn xrhsimopoihqei aytoi oi poroi kai poios einai o prwtos apologismos poy exoyme. Ayto einai to antikeimeno ths shmerinhs syzhthshs. Kai ayto to kanoyme, giati qa diadramatisei megalo rolo h poreia toy G@ KPS gia th diathrhsh twn ychlwn ryqmwn anaptyjhs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Otan h ellhnikh oikonomia, opws kai oles oi oikonomies pagkosmiws, antimetwpizei ayth thn periodo problhmata apo thn krish kai thn apeilh polemoy, einai logiko na koitas tis antistaseis soy. To prwto zhthma exei na kanei me th staqerothta kai thn antoxh ths oikonomias apenanti se ayta ta problhmata kai sth genikoterh katastash poy epikratei pagkosmiws. To deytero exei na kanei me th diathrhsh se ychlo baqmo ths dynamikhs ths oikonomias mas, opws ayth ekfrazetai me ton idiaitera ychlo anaptyjiako ryqmo ths poy einai, opws gnwrizete, apo toys ychloteroys sthn Eyrwph. Gi` ayto to logo mas endiaferei kai o rolos toy G@ KPS sthn anaptyjh.

Thn Paraskeyh qa syzhthqei to kommati poy afora tis sxeseis twn politwn me to G@ KPS, me thn energopoihsh politwn kai forewn, gia thn kalyterh diaqesh, aporrofhsh kai ajiopoihsh twn kondyliwn.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: O ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Xristodoylakhs ejakoloyqei na apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Kai to rwtw ayto giati yparxoyn polla dhmosieymata poy feroyn para polla stelexh kai melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy na emfanizontai entona dysaresthmenoi apo ta apotelesmata ths askoymenhs oikonomikhs politikhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas qewrw oti h apanthsh einai aytonohth. Thn prospaqeia poy ginetai o Prwqypoyrgos thn parakoloyqei apo poly konta. Opws jerete syzhthse xqes me ton k. Xristodoylakh olo to plegma twn antidrasewn mas apenanti sta problhmata poy yparxoyn logw ths krishs sto Irak kai bebaiws kai thn eishghsh poy qa kanei o ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, ayrio, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Yparxei plhrhs paroysia sthrijhs toy prwqypoyrgoy se ayth thn prospaqeia. Qelw na to kanw safes.

Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, qelw na sas pw oti den exw dei kamia anafora ypoyrgoy h stelexoys toy PASOK gi` ayta ta zhthmata. Kai oso den yparxei kamia anafora, einai logiko na mh dexomai oti yparxei eswteriko problhma. H politikh den ginetai katw apo to trapezi, ginetai me thn eyqythta toy logoy soy, ths parembashs soy, ths protashs soy. Etsi ginetai h politikh -mprosta se olo ton ellhniko lao- kai etsi exw maqei na thn kanw.

IWANNOY: Wstoso, gnwrizete oti to klima den diamorfwnetai me dhmosies dhlwseis melwn ths kybernhshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw dei kamia peri toy antiqetoy dhlwsh meloys ths kybernhshs.

MIXAHL: Se epaneilhmmenes syskeceis poy exoyn ginei kai sto parelqon ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai toy k. Xristodoylakh me armodioys foreis, peran twn opoiwn allwn problhmatwn, exoyn diapistwqei kaqysterhseis ejaitias adraneias -na xrhsimopoihsw ton pio epieikh, kata thn apoch moy, xarakthrismo- sygkekrimenwn kratikwn leitoyrgwn poy exoyn analabei ayth thn eyqynh. Qelw, loipon, na moy peite, ean stis proqeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn einai na laboyn metra kai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh gia thn epitaxynsh, opws epidiwkei h kybernhsh, ths efarmoghs toy G@ K.P.S.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto syzhtoyn kai shmera, thn epitaxynsh olwn twn diadikasiwn, th swsth ajiopoihsh twn porwn. Kaneis den exei dikaiwma, eite na kaqysterei, eite na adranei, otan yparxei ayth h eqnikh anagkaiothta. To kalo paradeigma to dinoyme prwtoi emeis.

MIXAHL: Epitrecte moy, loipon, na ginw pio sygkekrimenos. Ean se kapoio ypoyrgeio poy se kapoio kratiko leitoyrgo toy exei anaqesei o armodios ypoyrgos th doyleia na "trejei", ston tomea toy, to G@ K.P.S., diapistwnetai oti kaqysterei kai den mporei na to organwsei kai na to "trejei", prokeitai na antikatastaqei, yparxei tetoia skech;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kaneis o opoios na exei analabei to qema kai na kaqysterei. Den qa to anexotan kanenas mas.

MIXAHL: Me sygxwreite, exei pei kai o k. Xristodoylakhs sto parelqon oti se para polloys tomeis oi kaqysterhseis einai tetoies apo thn eswterikh grafeiokratia kai th dynatothta na "trejei", poy einai pantelws adynates oi opoiesdhpote parembaseis na to lysoyn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme labei ola ta anagkaia metra se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Mhn anhsyxeite.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa mporoysate na moy dieykrinisete th stash ths Kybernhshs sto qema poy exei anakycei me ton Ellhna foithth sth Bretania;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes, o Genikos Projenos k. Xatzhmixalhs htan parwn sth diarkeia ths prodiadikasias ayths, poy problepetai apo to bretaniko nomo, gia ton Ellhna foithth. Gnwrizete oti oi ejelijeis den htan qetikes. O Ellhnas poliths kathgoreitai, me bash to bretaniko nomo, bebaiws, gia ypokinhsh se tromokratikes prajeis kai egkwmiasmo tromokratikwn prajewn. Exei problefqei h profylakish toy. To qema ayto qa ejetastei kapoia stigmh ton Aprilio kai -an den kanw laqos- h dikh einai prosdiorismenh gia to fqinopwro. Hdh, omws, h ellhnikh kybernhsh meleta ta parapera bhmata ths kai tis antidraseis ths. Den mporw na sas pw kati, giati eimaste sto stadio ths meleths, ayth th stigmh. Sas lew, omws, oti oles oi armodies arxes apo thn pleyra ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs meletoyn thn ypoqesh, prokeimenoy na anazhthsoyn tropoys peraiterw antidrashs. Kai giati ayto; Kat` arxas, gnwrizete oti, ws fainetai kai ws apodeiknyetai, o Ellhnas poliths den exei kanei apolytws tipota. Profanws eixe mia apoch, h opoia bebaiws einai dikh toy -den shmainei oti symfwnei kaneis- alla einai dikh toy apoch kai mia symperifora poy ton kleinei sth fylakh gia poly megalo xroniko diasthma. Nomizw oti kaqenas qa th xarakthrize eykolws, yperbolikh, ayth thn antidrash. Apo ekei kai pera, to zhthma poy tiqetai einai oti otan eixame mia analogh periptwsh me toys legomenoys "plainspotters" , yphrje mia genikh kinhtopoihsh oloy toy Hnwmenoy Basileioy, otan oi anqrwpoi aytoi eixan probei se energeia, h opoia symfwna me ton ellhniko nomo, opws gnwrizete, isodynamoyse me prajh kataskopeias. Parola ayta, antimetwpisame me katanohsh kai me anoikto pneyma olh ayth thn ypoqesh kai den meiname mono sto gramma toy nomoy. Thn idia katanohsh kai to idio anoikto pneyma, einai logiko oti zhtame na deijoyn kai oi bretanikes arxes. Mia analogh, me th dikh mas, stash. Sas eipa jana oti meletoyme ti qa kanoyme pros ayth thn kateyqynsh.

IWANNOY: Dhladh, mporei na antidrasete entona; Ayto mas lete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Meletoyme ti qa kanoyme pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Otan erqei h wra, qa sas ta poyme analytika.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Apo o,ti qymamai, o k. Mpler tote thlefwnoyse ston Prwqypoyrgo kai o Prwqypoyrgos ton enhmerwne gia toys Bretanoys poy eixan syllhfqei kai kathgoroyntan malista se baqmo kakoyrghmatos. O Prwqypoyrgos protiqetai twra na epikoinwnhsei me to Bretano omologo toy gia thn periptwsh toy Ellhna foithth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti, qewrwntas idiaitera yperbolikes tis antidraseis poy yphrjan ekei, me bash bebaia to bretaniko nomo kai den qeloyme na kanoyme parembash nomikoy xarakthra. Eimaste ayth th stigmh sto stadio ths meleths twn peraiterw kinhsewn mas. H genikh filosofia mas einai oti apo th stigmh poy eixame mia analogh periptwsh kai emeis energhsame me katanohsh kai mesa se ena genikotero qetiko pneyma kai den meiname sto gramma toy nomoy, analogh stash qa prepei na epideixqei kai apo th bretanikh pleyra. Me poia sygkekrimena metra kai me poioys sygkekrimenoys tropoys qa energhsoyme, epitrecte moy na sas ta pw, otan qa eimaste etoimoi, para poly syntoma.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Milw gia to epipedo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo th stigmh poy eimaste sto stadio ths meleths, to katalabainete. Xreiazetai na melethsoyme prwta kala to qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

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