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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Febroyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Kat` arxas, qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw gia thn eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, sxetika me tis ejelijeis sto Kypriako kai thn krish sto Irak.

Oson afora to Kypriako, o Prwqypoyrgos tonise:

" O k. Anan, opws gnwrizoyme oloi, einai sthn Kypro kai xqes, enexeirise stoys endiaferomenoys, dhladh ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Papadopoylo, ton hgeth twn Toyrkokypriwn k. Ntenktas, kaqws kai stoys presbeis ths Elladas kai ths Toyrkias, to trito Sxedio Anan.

To trito Sxedio Anan, periexei tis tropopoihseis kai ekeines tis anamorfwseis toy deyteroy Sxedioy, tis opoies eixe proanaggeilei o idios, moirazontas, thn perasmenh Kyriakh, pali mesw toy k. Albaro nte Soto, to gnwsto mnhmonio. O,ti periexei ekeino to keimeno, periexetai twra sto trito Sxedio, to opoio omws einai mia epanalhch, ws pros alla shmeia twn prohgoymenwn. Ypokaqista, dhladh, to prohgoymeno, kai einai pleon ayto h bash gia tis diapragmateyseis.

Mesa sto keimeno -peran toy mnhmonioy- den periexontai kai kapoia alla nea stoixeia, ektos apo kapoia sxolia se dyo shmeia h kapoies parathrhseis, poy exoyn to xarakthra epejeghsewn, alla polles fores kai stis epejhghseis yparxoyn megala problhmata. Ekei, loipon, xreiazontai kapoies dieykrinhseis. Epishs, periexetai kai mia dhlwsh se sxesh me to dhmochmisma sthn opoia qa epanelqw.

To trito Sxedio Anan ejetasthke, xqes, apo thn elladikh kai thn ellhnokypriakh pleyra kai syntajame sxetikes parathrhseis, tis opoies qa paroysiasei, shmera, o k. Papadopoylos ston k. Anan.

Shmera, o k. Anan qa dei toys kyrioys T. Papadopoylo, Gl. Klhridh, kaqws kai ton k. Ntenktas. Kai qa toys dei, gia prwth fora, oloys mazi. Apo tis synanthseis aytes, apo o,ti exw symperanei apo tis epafes poy eixa, qelei na prosdiorisei ena syntomo xrono sxoliwn gia to keimeno poy paredwse, gia na diapistwsei meta th synexeia. Alla, h synexeia einai safhs, dioti opws toy ejhghsa kai egw, einai adynaton h mia pleyra na dexqei oti einai symfwnh, otan den gnwrizei, ek prooimioy oti einai symfwnh kai h allh pleyra kai den gnwrizei kiolas kai se poia shmeia diafwnei h allh pleyra.

Symfwnia, loipon, kai twn dyo, den mporei na yparjei, para mono dhloymenh thn idia stigmh kai den mporei na yparjei para mono an kai oi dyo einai pepeismenoi oti den yparxoyn alla periqwria diapragmateysewn. Omws, kai oi dyo prospaqoyn -kai dikaiws qa elega, oson afora emas- na ejetastoyn orismena qemata. O k. Anan qa diapistwsei, fantazomai ayrio, thn adynamia ameshs ypografhs aytoy toy tritoy Sxedioy kai katopin toytoy, den qa zhthsei thn ypografh, alla qa toys zhthsei na ypogracoyn mia dhlwsh oti qa qesoyn kai oi dyo pleyres ayto to Sxedio se dhmochfisma stis 30 Martioy. Ayto fainetai, dioti sta xartia poy edwse o k. Anan, peran toy Sxedioy, periexetai kai to keimeno ayths ths dhlwshs, to opoio toys kalei na ypogracoyn. Qa toys parakalesei na metaboyn sth Xagh, prin apo tis 14 Martioy. Qa toys afhsei kapoio xrono, alla pantws qa toys kalesei prin mpei mprosta h diadikasia sto Symboylio Asfaleias gia to Irak, giati qelei na exei kleisei thn prodikasia toy Kypriakoy, protoy asxolhqei me to qema toy Irak. Ayto einai apolyta katanohto. Dhladh, en pash periptwsei, metajy 10 kai 14 Martioy, qa klhqoyn na ypogracoyn ayth th dhlwsh oti qa qesoyn ypo thn krish ths ellhnokypriakhs kai ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas antistoixa, to Sxedio ayto. H dhlwsh ayth thn opoia exoyn etoimasei, exei kai ayth kapoia qemata, ta opoia prepei na prosejoyme kai qa einai antikeimeno syzhthshs me ta Hnwmena Eqnh kai shmera kai ayrio.

Ayto einai to Sxedio, opws einai peripoy sto myalo twn H.E. kai yparxei to erwthma, ti qa ginei me ayto poy ta H.E. apokaloyn "topiko dhmochfisma toy k. Ntenktas". O k. Ntenktas dhlwse kai sta HE oti einai apofasismenos na kanei ayto to topiko dhmochfisma. Emeis toy episthsame thn prosoxh oti ayto mporei na einai ena dhmochfisma poy na mhn antapokrinetai se dhmokratikes diadikasies. Na einai meqodeymeno kai, kanonikws exontwn twn pragmatwn, den nomizoyme oti einai swsto na yparxei ayto. Omws, o k. Anan, kata thn episkech toy sthn Agkyra, sxhmatise thn entypwsh oti isws qa htan skopimo na yparjei ayto to dhmochfisma, dioti etsi qa lyqoyn kapoia problhmata genika sthn toyrkokypriakh pleyra kai sth sxesh ths me thn Toyrkia.

En pash periptwsei, emeis den exoyme logo an qa ginei topiko dhmochfisma h oxi sthn toyrkokypriakh pleyra. Ekeino sto opoio toy episthsame thn prosoxh einai oti apo ayto ejartatai h olh synexeia. Dioti, an oi Toyrkokyprioi poyn oti den symfwnoyn me to Sxedio, tote poios o logos na ginei dhmochfisma sthn ellhnokypriakh pleyra;

Moy metefere, bebaia, diafores apoceis, poy yparxoyn sthn Agkyra kai thn toyrkikh hgesia, sxetika me tis proqeseis toy k. Ntenktas. Egw den qa mpw se ayto to qema. Pantws mporw na pw oti, kata thn apoch toy k. Anan, aytos mporei na einai enas tropos na jeperastoyn kai kapoia problhmata. O k. Ntenktas eipe oti qa to kanei se mia ebdomada, isws thn allh Kyriakh. Pisteyw kai ayto qa qelei na jekaqarisei shmera, gia na toys pei pote qa pane sth Xagh, wste na pane meta to topiko dhmochfisma.

Ekei briskontai ayta ta qemata, ayth th stigmh, kai einai mprosta mas, oson afora th lysh toy Kypriakoy, ena krisimo 10hmero".

Oson afora to Irak, o Prwqypoyrgos ypogrammise:

" Se o,ti afora to qema toy Irak, shmera to apogeyma qa exoyme mia syzhthsh sth Boylh. Egw milhsa gia to qema ayto diejodika, mia me miamish wra, me ton k. Anan. Mporw na metaferw ton problhmatismo toy gia to ti qa symbei, dioti einai fanero oti o G.G. toy OHE den qelei pote mia lysh, h opoia den qa exei thn apodoxh, th sthrijh twn H.E. Gi@ ayto, kaqe prospaqeia, h opoia ginetai gia na jeperastoyn h na mhn efarmostoyn ayta ta opoia exoyn symfwnhqei sta H.E., ton briskei antiqeto. Apo th syzhthsh ayth, katalaba oti mesa stis epomenes 10 hmeres, mexri ta mesa toy Marth, qa prospaqhsei idiws na jekaqarisei to qema ayto, ean oi epiqewrhseis qa synexistoyn, poso kai me poio apotelesma. Isws h skech toy einai oti, mesa apo ayth th diadikasia twn epiqewrhsewn, qa mporesei na exei kapoies safeis apanthseis gia ton afoplismo h oxi toy Irak.

To Irak, opws gnwrizete, den exei dhlwsei me safhneia, mexri ayth th stigmh, ean qa katastrecei toys pyrayloys. Ayto shmainei oti profanestata exoyn apofasisei oti h katastrofh twn pyraylwn qa toys meiwsei opoies dynatothtes amynas kai den to qeloyn ayto. Alla, apo thn allh meria, pisteyw oti kai ola ta melh toy Symboylioy Asfaleias, mias poy o k. Mplij zhthse thn katastrofh twn pyraylwn, den prokeitai na ypoxwrhsoyn kaqoloy se ayto to qema.

As mhn kanoyme, omws, eikasies. Ayth th stigmh, yparxoyn polles diergasies. Qa doyme, mesa stis epomenes 10 hmeres, poia qa einai h ejelijh. Emeis, symfwna me ayta poy exoyn apofasistei sthn E.E., exoyme panta -qelw na sas qymisw- ws kentrikes arxes:

Prwton, oti h prwtoboylia anhkei sta H.E. kai ta H.E. apofasizoyn gia to ti qa ginei.

Deyteron, oti prepei na efarmostei h apofash twn H.E. 1441. Kai

Triton -kai aytonohto- oti o polemos einai h teleytaia lysh, otan exoyn apotyxei oles oi alles lyseis".

Meta thn eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, syzhthqhke h politikh ths kybernhshs gia th xwrotajia kai thn poleodomia kai eidikotera mia seira metrwn, ta opoia eishghqhke h ypoyrgos PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy. Sto plaisio ayto:

Egkriqhke to Geniko Plaisio Xwrotajikoy Sxediasmoy kai Aeiforoy Anaptyjhs ths xwras. Ena synolo kanonwn gia th diorganwsh toy eqnikoy xwroy, to opoio symplhrwnetai kai ejeidikeyetai me leptomeresteres ryqmiseis. Synodeyetai apo to Eidiko Plaisio Xwrotajikoy Sxediasmoy gia ton Paraktio Xwro, poy anaferetai eidikotera stoys kanones organwshs toy paraktioy kai toy nhsiwtikoy xwroy. Synodeyetai, akoma, apo ta xwrotajika plaisia twn 12 Perifereiwn (plhn Attikhs) poy ejeidikeyoyn to geniko plaisio se leptomeresteroys kanones sto epipedo ths Perifereias. Me ayto ton tropo, kai meta apo 28 xronia apo thn problech toy Syntagmatos, h xwra mas apokta Xwrotajiko Sxediasmo. To Geniko Plaisio anaferetai stis strathgikes epiloges xwrotajikhs politikhs, opws einai oi Ajones Anaptyjhs ths xwras, oi Pyles Synergasias, h Dioikhtikh Sygkrothsh, h oikistikh domh k.l.p. Anaferetai, epishs, stoys dioikhtikoys kai oikonomikoys mhxanismoys ylopoihshs.

Ektos apo ta Xwrotajika Sxedia, egine anafora sta sxedia xrhsewn ghs kai teqhke o stoxos na kalyfqei stadiaka me xrhseis ghs to synolo toy Ellhnikoy Xwroy, me proteraiothta sta nhsia kai ton paraktio xwro. Me ayto ton tropo, prostateyetai o xwros kai to periballon kai gnwrizei o poliths ti epitrepetai na domhqei kai poies leitoyrgies mporei na egkatastaqoyn stis ektos sxedioy perioxes.

Teqhke, epishs, o stoxos ths apotelesmatikhs poleodomhshs. Sth xwra mas oi entajeis sto sxedio polhs, logw polynomias diadikastikwn, alla kai antidrasewn, kaqysteroyn yperbolika, me apotelesma thn ayqaireth domhsh kai thn katastrofh toy xwroy. Apofasisthkan sygkekrimena metra epitaxynshs kai aploysteyshs, wste na yparjei megalh meiwsh toy apaitoymenoy xronoy kai taxeia entajh perioxwn se sxedia polhs.

Apofasisthkan metra gia thn prostasia twn polewn, th beltiwsh twn Poleodomiwn kai thn anaplash perioxwn.

Egkriqhkan, epishs, metra gia thn antimetwpish ths ayqaireths domhshs.

Den problepetai nomimopoihsh twn ayqairetwn, alla entajeis sto sxedio me tis nomimes diadikasies.

Ginetai diakrish twn ayqairetwn se kathgories kai diaxwrizontai, oi mikres parabaseis apo tis shmantikes ayqairesies, oi opoies timwroyntai gia ta nea ayqaireta me ejairetika aysthres poines, poy aforoyn oloys toys ypeyqynoys kai emplekomenoys sthn anegersh ayqairetwn.

Telos, ginetai reymatodothsh mono se ayqairetai ktismata stis perioxes twn opoiwn exei ginei geniko poleodomiko sxedio kai exei oloklhrwqei h fash ths poleodomikhs meleths poy prosdiorizei koinoxrhstoys xwroys, wste na empodistei h dhmioyrgia toys apo ayqairetes kataskeyes.

H yfypoyrgos PEXWDE Rodoyla Zhsh, anaferomenh sto idio qema, ypogrammise, metajy allwn, ta ejhs:

"Pisteyw oti to eqniko plaisio toy xwrotajikoy sxediasmoy apotelei th megalyterh tekmhriwsh leitoyrgias ths biwsimhs anaptyjhs. Diamorfwnoyme thn anaptyjh, to politistiko, to anqrwpogenes periballon, mesw toy xwrotajikoy poleodomikoy sxediasmoy. Den kanoyme apla mia katagrafh, kanoyme politikh.

H xwrotajia einai oikonomikh anaptyjh, den einai apla apotypwsh mono nomikwn periballontikwn kai koinwnikwn dedomenwn. Ara, h synergeia gi@ ayto ths makrobiwthtas, ths biwsimothtas, einai aparaithth se ayth thn poreia.

Sth synexeia, synedriase to KYSEA, to opoio enekrine omofwna thn eishghsh ths armodias Epitrophs gia to programma asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Symfwna me thn omofwnh ayth apofash toy KYSEA, ws proswrinos anadoxos anadeiknyetai h koinoprajia "SAIGK", h opoia einai o meiodoths. H Epitroph elabe entolh na proxwrhsei se peraiterw diapragmateyseis me thn koinoprajia, wste na meiwqei akomh perissotero to kostos, diathroymenoy toy dikaiwmatos, ean den meinei ikanopoihmenh apo to apotelesma twn diapragmateysewn, na kalesei kai th deyterh sth seira koinoprajia.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

POYLIDOY: Ayto poy eixa katalabei egw einai oti to topiko dhmochfisma poy sxediazei o Raoyf Ntenktas exei na kanei me to na toy doqei h ejoysiodothsh apo thn toyrkokypriakh koinothta gia na diapragmateytei to Kypriako. Oxi na qesei sthn krish twn Toyrkokypriwn to Sxedio Anan. Einai allo to antikeimeno toy topikoy dhmochfismatos, synepws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes ti epidiwkei o k. Ntenktas gia to topiko dhmochfisma. O k. Ntenktas, bebaiws, mporei na qesei o,ti qelei. Den einai dhladh ena dhmochfisma poy qa ginei me bash thn piqanh symfwnia. Giati den gnwrizoyme kai se ayto to shmeio an yparjei telikws symfwnia me ton k. Anan. To erwthma, loipon, qa to diatypwsei profanws opws qelei aytos kai to dhmochfisma qa to kanei katw apo diadikasies, gia tis opoies hdh, ws fainetai, o Prwqypoyrgos kai oloklhrh h ellhnikh pleyra exoyn ekfrasei ton sobaro problhmatismo toys. Sas tonisa, omws, oti o G.G. toy OHE anteteine oti symfwna me mia entypwsh poy sxhmatise, milwntas me Toyrkoys paragontes, isws mesa se aytes tis diadikasies na epelqoyn kai kapoies lyseis poy exoyn na kanoyn kai me tis metajy toys sxeseis.

POYLIDOY: H diafwnia mas einai to antikeimeno toy dhmochfismatos, alla apo o,ti blepw oyte eseis gnwrizete akribws.

PRWTOPAPAS: Poy na jeroyme telika ti qa kanei o k. Ntenktas. Opws gnwrizete synexizei na ayqairetei se ayta ta zhthmata. Kai malista xarakthristiko ths ayqairesias toy k. Ntenktas kai ths adiallajias toy einai oti den lambanei ypoch toy, oyte to megaleiwdes syllalhthrio, to opoio gia mia akomh fora egine sthn perioxh twn katexomenwn. Emfanizetai na mh blepei kai na mhn akoyei, na einai plhrws adiallaktos kai na epixeirei me diafores meqodeyseis kai tertipia na mplokarei thn opoiadhpote ejelijh yparxei gyrw apo th diadikasia epilyshs toy Kypriakoy. Oyte kan akoyei th fwnh ths koinothtas toy. Ayto to shmeio deixnei pragmatika oti h toyrkokypriakh pleyra ferei sobarotath eyqynh gia tis mexri twra ejelijeis. Thn apokleistikh eyqynh gia thn opoia kaqysterhsh yphrje stis diapragmateyseis kai th diadikasia epilyshs toy Kypriakoy. Einai safes, oti gi` ayto to logo o Prwqypoyrgos tonise pws gia na yparjei symfwnia shmainei oti prepei na dhlwqei taytoxrona kai apo ta dyo merh.

POYLIDOY: Gnwrizete an o G.G. toy OHE exei apodexqei na ginei dhmochfisma sthn toyrkokypriakh pleyra, xwris prodiagrafes, diadikasies, xwris dhladh thn paroysia dieqnwn parathrhtwn, opws leei o k. Ntenktas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo thn topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy blepete oti to qema paramenei anoikto gia ton k. Anan. Isws, giati o k. Anan qewrei oti mporei na yparxoyn ejelijeis sthn kateyqynsh epilyshs toy problhmatos. Alla, ayto katalabainete pws den shmainei oti yioqeteitai apo th dikh mas pleyra.

KALARITHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti dikaiws kai oi dyo pleyres, alla idiaitera h ellhnikh, exoyn kapoies epifylajeis gia orismena shmeia toy Sxedioy@

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsame gia parathrhseis. H akribhs ekfrash poy xrhsimopoihse o Prwqypoyrgos einai gia parathrhseis, tis opoies epejergasthke h ellhnikh pleyra mazi me thn ellhnokypriakh.

KALARITHS: Etsi opws qetei to zhthma twra o k. Anan oti ayrio prepei na exei th dhlwsh toys oti apodexontai to sxedio kai qa to qesoyn sthn krish twn dyo koinothtwn@

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den eipe etsi o k. Anan. Kata pasa piqanothta h problech toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h opoia yparxei, einai pws den qa yparjei taytoxronh apodoxh toy sxedioy. Ara, den qa exoyme synypografh toy sxedioy apo tis dyo hgesies, thn hgesia ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai thn hgesia ths toyrkokypriakhs koinothtas. Ws fainetai, den qa yparjei mia tetoia ypografh, kata problech bebaiws. Makari na proxwrhsoyn oi diapragmateyseis me tetoio tropo, poy na jeperastoyn se elaxisto xrono ola ta empodia. Fainetai, omws, para poly dyskolo. Logika, loipon, den qa yparxei synypografh se kapoio sxedio. Kai den exei kai nohma na pei h ellhnikh pleyra "to apodexomai", otan h toyrkokypriakh pleyra, opws blepete, synexizei mia kaqoristika adiallakth stash. Emeis exoyme parathrhseis. Tis parathrhseis aytes eimaste etoimoi na tis diapragmateytoyme. Qa tis qesoyme ypoch kai toy k. Anan. Den eimaste emeis ekeinoi poy deixnoyme mia adiallakth stash. Apo thn allh pleyra, to piqanotero einai -alla kai ayto menei ypo thn krish twn ejelijewn gyrw apo to legomeno topiko dhmochfisma Ntenktas- na yparjoyn kapoies ejelijeis kai na zhthsei o G.G. toy OHE taytoxrono dhmochfisma stis 30 Martioy, xwris synypografh sxedioy. Ayto kata problech, giati oles oi diadikasies einai reystes ayth th stigmh, logw ths taktikhs Ntenktas.

KALARITHS: Pws qa to qesoyn se dhmochfisma, an den to exoyn kat` arxhn apodexqei, oi dyo pleyres;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den leei tipota ayto. Mporei kallista na teqei ena keimeno, poy einai keimeno toy OHE, se dhmochfisma. Den apagoreyetai ayto.

KALARITHS: Poios qa to qesei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi dyo pleyres. Einai safes. Den exei nohma na to qesei h mia pleyra. An, dhladh, o Ntenktas kanei dhmochfisma kai aporricei to Sxedio Anan, kateyqeian exei aporrifqei me eyqynh twn Toyrkokypriwn.

POYLIDOY: Ara, den prohgoyntai diapragmateyseis se ayth thn periptwsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa afhsei ena mikro periqwrio, ws fainetai, o k. Anan gia tyxon diapragmateyseis. Kapoiwn hmerwn, dhladh, piqanon deka hmerwn.

TSIBOLA: Mexri tis 10 Martioy poy qa toys kalesei@

PRWTOPAPAS: Ena tetoio periqwrio, mexri dyo ebdomades peripoy, isws kai 10 hmerwn.

KARGOYDH: Epeidh plhroforoymeqa oti xqes, gia paradeigma, sto bretaniko koinoboylio o k. Mpler antimetwpise poly megales dyskolies na peisei gia thn anagkh ameshs epiqeshs sto Irak kai epishs plhroforhqhkame oti enas symboylos sthn amerikanikh presbeia twn Aqhnwn, paraithqhke gia logoys politikhs diafwnias, gia thn epishmh amerikanikh politikh, hqela na rwthsw ean h Ellhnikh Proedria diapistwnei mia ayjhsh ths dyspistias, toylaxiston entos ths E.E., oson afora ta amerikanika epixeirhmata gia thn anagkh ameshs epiqeshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy exei na kanei h Ellhnikh Proedria einai na emmeinei sthn apofash ths Deyteras, poy phre h idia h E.E. kai stis basikes kateyqynseis ths, na emmeinei sthn apoch pws o,ti ejelijh, opoia ejelijh kai an yparjei qa prepei na ginei apokleistika sto plaisio kai me apofaseis, toy OHE. H Ellhnikh Proedria emmenei na zhtaei apo to Irak thn amesh efarmogh ths apofashs 1441 toy OHE. H Ellhnikh Proedria jekaqarizei oti prepei na ejantlhqoyn prwta oles oi dynates periptwseis, oloi oi dynatoi tropoi eirhnikhs dieyqethshs ths krishs, prin yparjei h opoiadhpote telikh apofash, h opoia piqano qa ftasei se polemo. Tonizw kai pali, apofaseis toy OHE ennow. Dioti to Dieqnes Dikaio den epiballetai apo kapoion mono toy. To Dieqnes Dikaio epiballetai mesa apo th dieqnh koinothta, h opoia orizetai apo ton OHE, ekfrazetai dia toy OHE kai twn apofasewn toy.

Ara:

Prwton, menoyme sthn koinh stash ths E.E., opws ayth apofasisthke th Deytera kai epibebaiwqhke thn Trith.

Deyteron, opoia apofash kai an yparjei gia tis ejelijeis, prepei na einai mesa apo ton OHE kai to Symboylio Asfaleias.

Triton, to Irak prepei na symmorfwqei me tis apofaseis toy OHE kai eidika to chfisma 1441.

Tetarton, prepei na ejantlhqoyn prwta oi dynatothtes eirhnikhs epilyshs ths krishs, prin ftasoyme se alles apofaseis.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Poies etaireies apartizoyn thn koinoprajia "SAIK", poy einai proswrinos anadoxos kai an exete kapoio sxolio gia to shmerino prwtoselido ths Ayrianhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto prwto erwthma sas tonizw kai pali oti den mporw na gnwrizw oles tis etaireies poy apoteloyn thn koinoprajia. Nomizw oti ayto exei dhmosieytei kat` epanalhch kai mporeite na to breite. Sto deytero erwthma, gia to shmerino prwtoselido yparxei mia dhlwsh toy k. Malesioy. Gia dieykolynsh sas th diabazw: "Ta anagrafomena se shmerino prwtoselido dhmosieyma ths efhmeridas "AYRIANH" gia to proswpo moy, apoteloyn myqeymata kai kakoboyla apokyhmata fantasias. O diagwnismos gia thn promhqeia twn systhmatwn asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn ejelissetai mexri shmera kai qa peratwqei syntoma me tropo adiablhto kai diafanh me bash to isxyon qesmiko plaisio kai tis apofaseis twn armodiwn syllogikwn organwn", sthn prokeimenh periptwsh toy KYSEA.

IWANNOY: Eseis pws to sxoliazete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Milaei apo mono toy to pragma, apo th stigmh poy yparxei omofwnh apofash toy KYSEA.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Meta th xqesinh apofash toy dikasthrioy, mhpws anoigei o dromos gia thn epistrofh toy k. Xrysanqakopoyloy sthn K.O. toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opwsdhpote h xqesinh apofash toy dikasthrioy einai shmantikh, alla to qema ths epistrofhs toy k. Xrysanqakopoyloy qa to apofasisei o Prwqypoyrgos kai Proedros ths K.O. toy PASOK.

MIXAHL: H dikh gia th ``17N'' arxizei th Deytera. To plaisio to exete diamorfwsei me to nomo poy exete chfisei sth Boylh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi monon emeis.

MIXAHL: Profanws. Milaw gia oles tis politikes dynameis.

PRWTOPAPAS: To arqro exei chfistei apo thn pleiochfia twn politikwn dynamewn.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean ejyphretei thn eleyqerotypia kai thn plhrh plhroforhsh toy ellhnikoy laoy, opws epitassei to Syntagma, h xqesinh topoqethsh toy anqrwpoy poy qa proedreysei toy Dikasthrioy, poy oyte ligo, oyte poly, den afhnei kanena periqwrio, oxyrwmenos pisw apo to nomo poy exei chfistei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Diabasa shmera ston Typo oti o Proedros toy Dikasthrioy skeftetai na qesei mia seira apo protaseis epi toy qematos, bebaiws ypo thn krish toy synoloy twn diadikwn, opws akribws orizei o nomos.

MIXAHL: Den amfisbhtw to dhmosieyma. Erwtw gi ayta poy eipe o k. Margariths. Ean diabasei kaneis ayta poy eipe....

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmerina dhmosieymata egkyrwn efhmeridwn anaferontai sta osa dhlwse o k. Margariths.

MIXAHL: Mhpws tyxon ta dhmosieymata twn efhmeridwn den aphxoyn tis apoceis toy k. Margarith, alla allwn dikastikwn kyklwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferontai, omws, onomastika ston k. Margarith. Kai fantazomai, oti otan ayta dhmosieyontai se egkyres efhmerides, deixnoyn oti o k. Margariths problhmatizetai gyrw apo to qema. Den jerw ti qa kanei. Den mporw na to jerw kai den prepei na to jerw. Omws, ayto poy qelw na sas pw einai oti se kaqe periptwsh, oxi o Proedros memonwmena - giati den einai qema monon Proedroy- to Dikasthrio qa apofasisei gia mia seira apo qemata, ypo ton oro, bebaiws, oti qa symfwnhsoyn oi diadikoi. Ayto egkeitai sthn krish toy. To Dikasthrio qa apofasisei akomh gia to ean qa epitrapei h xrhsh magnhtofwnwn mesa sthn aiqoysa. Thn oristikh apanthsh sta qemata ayta qa thn maqete, opws qa th maqoyme ki emeis, meta tis sxetikes apofaseis toy Dikasthrioy. Merikoi synadelfoi sas -poy toys eida xqes- kata tropo antideontologiko, prwtofanh kai aparadekto -elaxistoi, eytyxws, to tonizw kai eidikotera se enan thleoptiko staqmo, gia na ginw pio safhs- prospaqoyn na rijoyn eyqynes, oti dhqen h kybernhsh epixeirei na empodisei thn eleyqerotypia, ara kai thn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai alla poy den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn alhqeia. Einai grafika, alla taytoxrona kai epikindyna. Den exoyn mpei kan ston kopo na enhmerwqoyn apo th xqesinh politikh syzhthsh poy eixame sthn aiqoysa ayth, opws kai se ti anaferqhka proswpika. Qelw na jekaqarisw kai pali oti einai gnwsto poioi einai, einai oi gnwstoi ``paramyqades'', oi opoioi ``jexwrisan'' kai to kalokairi gia ta ``epiteygmata'' toys kai oi opoioi eixan fqasei sto epakro ths katapathshs kaqe ennoias sebasmoy ths anqrwpinhs ajioprepeias. Kai bebaiws, metatrophs ths olhs istorias ths katapolemhshs ths tromokratias se thleoptiko sooy. Apo kei kai pera, qelw na kanw safes oti h qesh mas einai gnwsth: Nai, sthn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy gia ta tektainomena sth dikh. Nai, sthn plhrh diafaneia gia ta osa symboyn kai qa lexqoyn sth dikh. Me dikh mas prwtoboylia ryqmisthke telika to qema ths apomagnhtofwnhshs kai ths paroxhs apomagnhtofwnhmenwn ``praktikwn'', (keimenwn) kaqe hmera se ola ta Mesa. To qema ths thleoptikhs kai radiofwnikhs kalychs egkeitai sthn krish toy Dikasthrioy ki emeis den epembainoyme se ayto. Qelw na ypenqymisw, anaferomenos se mia sxetikh dhlwsh toy Proedroy toy Dikhgorikoy Syllogoy Aqhnwn k. Pajinoy, oti kai o idios anagnwrizei to qema, parapempontas sto Dikasthrio kai tis apofaseis toy gia thn thleoptikh kai radiofwnikh kalych ths dikhs, gia th xrhsh h oxi magnhtofwnwn. H dhlwsh toy einai shmerinh.

MIXAHL: Oi ejoysies sthn Ellada einai treis: Nomoqetikh, Ektelestikh kai Dikastikh. To erwthma einai, ean h kybernhsh exei thn apoch oti sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy tiqentai oi drasthriothtes kai oi prajeis kai twn triwn ejoysiwn. Sas to rwtw ayto kai qa hqela mia safh apanthsh, gia ton ejhs aplo logo. Oi dikastes...

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to syntagmatiko meros me rwtate; Giati o laos blepei kai krinei.

MIXAHL: Pws qa dei kai qa krinei o ellhnikos laos, otan erxetai o dikasths k. Margariths kai leei oti, egw gia na prajw ayto poy lete, exw enan nomo ``x'', xwris na exei plhrh eikona;

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati o ellhnikos laos qa gnwrizei kai ti eipwqhke sth dikh. Qa gnwrizei kai ti dhlwse h kathgoroysa arxh, kai ti apanthsan oi synhgoroi kai pws topoqethqhke h politikh agwgh kai ti eipan oi kathgoroymenoi, oi martyres. Ta panta qa gnwrizei o ellhnikos laos. Qa yparjei plhrhs diafaneia. Qa paristantai 120 synadelfoi sas sthn aiqoysa, 250 synadelfoi sas sto Kentro Typoy kai qa einai sth diaqesh olwn h plhrhs apomagnhtofwnhsh twn oswn lexqoyn sth diarkeia ths dikhs, kaqhmerina. Den prokeitai na krycoyme tipota apo ton ellhniko lao. Epanalambanw qa yparjei plhrhs diafaneia. Ejalloy, den exoyme tipota na fobhqoyme h na krycoyme. Kai to gnwrizete poly kala ayto. Omws, einai sthn krish toy Dikasthrioy -kai ayto kaneis den mporei na to arnhqei kai kakws diaiwnizoyme th syzhthsh panw se ayto to qema, afoy exei kleisei kat` oysian- to qema ths thleoptikhs kai radiofwnikhs kalychs ths dikhs, kati poy paradexqhke shmera kai o Proedros toy DSA. To Dikasthrio qa synennohqei me toys diadikoys kai qa apofasisei to kalytero. Ekeino poy prepei na katalabete, einai oti mporei kapoioi na einai dysaresthmenoi, dioti hlpizan na metatrecoyn olo ayto to zhthma se sooy kai na kannibalisoyn thleoptika, aisqanomenoi oti xanoyn eisodhma, alla h dikh den ginetai gi aytoys toys kyrioys. H dikh qa diejaxqei enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy kai qa teqei sthn krish ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, prokeimenoy na aponemhqei dikaiosynh se ena qema poy talaipwrei epi trianta xronia ton ellhniko lao. Trianta xronia talaipwreitai h ellhnikh koinwnia apo toys tromokrates. H dikh den ginetai gia toys dyo-treis, oi opoioi epixeiroyn na kerdisoyn me th morfh thleoptikwn sooy. H dikh ginetai sto onoma toy ellhnikoy laoy kai einai safes oti oloi oi paragontes ths dikhs mporoyn anephreasta na kanoyn th doyleia toys. Ta sooy den aforoyn emas, oyte ton ellhniko lao, oyte toys paragontes ths dikhs.

MIXAHL: Giati apeyqyneste proswpika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apeyqynomai se ayton ton kyrio, o opoios epixeirhse xqes na mas zhthsei kai to logo, xwris malista na exei diabasei ti eipame. Espeyse na pei oti to ypoyrgeio Typoy epixeirei na apagoreysei thn paroysia thleorasewn sthn aiqoysa. Den eixe diabasei tipota, oyte to nomo, oyte th xqesinh politikh enhmerwsh.

MIXAHL: Ws politikos, ws melos ths kybernhshs kai panw apo ola, ws Ellhnas poliths, sas endiaferei na maqete kai na akoysete ti lene oi kathgoroymenoi gia drash kai symmetoxh sth 17N kai pws dikaiologoyn, an paradexqoyn, tis prajeis toys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei periptwsh na mhn to maqw;

MIXAHL: Rwtw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan sas dwsw apomagnhtofwnhmena keimena h ``praktika'', as to pw etsi, giati den exoyn xarakthra epishmwn praktikwn, fantazomai oti ayta ta apomagnhtofwnhmena keimena den qa ta fylajete gia to spiti sas. Dhmosiografos eiste. An eiste parwn ekei, pisteyw oti jerete na kanete th doyleia sas.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Epeidh epanalambanete apo xqes oti oi dikastes einai ypeyqynoi gia na apofasisoyn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi armodioi, eipa, oxi oi ypeyqynoi.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Oi armodioi. Eginan armodioi apo th stigmh poy h kybernhsh phre thn prwtoboylia na ferei to sxetiko nomo sth Boylh, na chfistei kai apo kei kai pera h eyqynh perase se aytoys. Qelw na pw oti h kybernhsh htan ayth poy epeleje arxikws na ginei ayth h dikh ypo th sygkekrimenh diadikasia, giati ayto den to lete apo xqes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti h sxetikh diatajh toy nomoy den chfisthke monon apo thn kybernhtikh pleiochfia. Th sxetikh diatajh thn chfise kai h antipoliteysh, den jerw ean to qymaste. Ayto ti deixnei; Deixnei, oti oi dynameis, oi opoies ekfrazoyn thn syntriptikh pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy hqelan th sxetikh diatajh, sebomenoi ton eayto toys, alla kai ton kosmo poy ekproswpoyn. Den anexontai ton thleoptiko kanibalismo kai qeloyn na prostatecoyn to dikasth, ton eisaggelea, to synhgoro, toys martyres, alla kai toys kathgoroymenoys, giati oxi. Se kratos dikaioy qa diejaxqei h dikh. Ayth htan h agwnia mas kai xairomai giati htan kai agwnia ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, na prostateysoyme oloys toys paragontes ths dikhs, oloys aytoys toys anqrwpoys poy den xrwstoyn tipota na ginoyn qymata thleoptikoy kanibalismoy gia na kerdisoyn dyo h treis.

IWANNOY: Polloi boyleytes toy PASOK kai sto sygkekrimeno nomosxedio, alla kai meta, twra poy hrqe to qema sth dhmosiothta, me dhlwseis toys, oysiastika lene oti h dikh sthn epoxh ths chfiakhs texnologias qa ginei me oroys ths 10etias toy '60 kai gi` ayto kiolas zhtoyn toylaxiston thn katagrafh isws apo kapoia yphresia ths dikhs. Yparxoyn arketoi boyleytes toy PASOK poy to yposthrizoyn ayto kai sto nomosxedio to yposthrijan@

PRWTOPAPAS: Na katagrafei apo kapoia yphresia gia thn istoria ennoeite;

IWANNOY: Ws ntokoymento.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw kamia antirrhsh. Giati na exw antirrhsh;

IWANNOY: Thleoptikws, ennow na katagrafei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Giati na exw antirrhsh se ayto to qema. Einai ena qema poy qa kriqei pisteyw epitopoy apo to dikasthrio.

IWANNOY: Giati, mas eipate proxqes oti den yparxei qema katagrafhs, binteoskophshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na lyqei apo to dikasthrio.

IWANNOY: Yparxei kapoio qema me thn ESHEA, opws diabazoyme shmera, oti ean telika den yparjoyn kapoies allages mporei na zhthsoyn apo ta melh ths na mhn kanoyn ekei th doyleia toys h na aposyrqoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporw na milw gia tis syndikalistikes organwseis.

IWANNOY: Ean to gnwrizete@

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa htan anepitrepto na parembw sta eswterika ths ESHEA. Den to exw kanei pote. Sebomai thn ESHEA, prospaqoyme mesa apo to dialogo kai th synainesh na briskoyme lyseis.

IWANNOY: Ean sas to exei metaferei rwthsa.

PRWTOPAPAS: To akoysa apo ton k. Sompolo, ton Proedro ths ESHEA, oti yparxei ws skech, alla den mporw na to sxoliasw. Ekeino poy elpizw kai parakalw einai na lynoyme pantote ta problhmata synainetika kai bebaiws emeis qeloyme thn paroysia twn ekatontadwn synadelfwn sas sth dikh, dioti einai eggyhsh gia th dhmokratia, th diafaneia kai thn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy.

IWANNOY: Kai an den paei kaneis poios qa thn kalycei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw th gnwmh oti den qa ginei kati tetoio, an rwtate thn problech moy.

PEGKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Papaqemelhs me dhlwseis toy sthn efhmerida "Espresso" xarakthrise proklhsh gia thn koinh gnwmh ths xwras mas, h opoia thn exei agkaliasei, thn apofash ths k. Sklenarikoba na metabei sto ceydokratos toy Ntenktas kai na ypogracei dhlwsh anagnwrishs@

PRWTOPAPAS: Perimenete na apanthsw se ayth thn erwthsh;

PEGKOS: Ean symfwneite, bebaiws, me tis apoceis stelexwn sas kai boyleyth sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Edw apantame gia thn politikh, ta ypoloipa oxi edw.

Sas eyxaristw.

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