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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 31 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Xqes, eixame thn eykairia kai syzhthsame to qema ths prwtoboylias twn oktw xwrwn gia thn opoia yphrje argotera, opws gnwrizete, parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith me thn idiothta toy proedreyontos toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy.

Qelw na sas enhmerwsw, loipon, gia to apotelesma twn xqesinwn epafwn toy dieyqynth toy Diplwmatikoy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy presbh Qeodwroy Swthropoyloy me toys omologoys toy twn allwn 14 arxhgwn kratwn kai kybernhsewn twn xwrwn - melwn ths E.E..

Me entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy o k. Swthropoylos thlefwnhse stoys 14 omologoys toy kai toys enhmerwse kai gia tis sxetikes dhlwseis ths Proedrias kai genika gia to olo qema.

Apo tis epafes toy k. Swthropoyloy prokyptei to ejhs: Oi ennea xwres, oi opoies den eixan symmetasxei sthn prwtoboylia, dhlwsan oti yposthrizoyn plhrws th qesh ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias kai thn antimetwpish opws egine me th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith, ws proedreyontos ths E.E., gia to qema ayto. Yphrje, loipon, mia yposthrijh ths prwtoboylias toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths sxetikhs dhlwshs toy apo tis ennea xwres-melh ths E.E..

Oi ekproswpoi twn "5", dhladh oi epikefalhs twn Diplwmatikwn Grafeiwn twn pente Prwqypoyrgwn, oi opoioi eixan symmetasxei sthn prwtoboylia, dhlwsan oti sthrizoyn tis apofaseis toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn ths perasmenhs Deyteras, oti h prwtoboylia toys eixe na kanei -kat` aytoys-me thn ekfrash allhleggyhs pros tis HPA kai anagnwrisan oti, anejarthtws twn proqesewn tis opoies eixan, dhmioyrgeitai ena arnhtiko zhthma gia thn eikona ths E.E.. Tonisan, omws, oti emmenoyn sthn apofash toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn ths Deyteras kai oti qa prepei na lhfqoyn ola ta anagkaia metra kai na yparjoyn oi anagkaies prwtoboylies, wste na mh dhmioyrghqei meizon rhgma sthn E.E., alla antiqetws na dhmioyrghqoyn oi synqhkes gia efarmogh twn shmeiwn sygkerasmoy, ta opoia anaferontai sthn apofash toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Ayta oson afora ayto to qema.

To deytero: Par` oti einai ena qema poy apasxolhse poly thn Eyrwph -yparxoyn shmera sxetikes anafores se oles tis efhmerides ths Eyrwphs- eidame antiqetws mia sxetikh siwph h en pash periptwsei elaxistes anafores apo toys synhqws lalistatoys ekproswpoys ths Neas Dhmokratias kai apo ta stelexh ths.

Bebaiws, katanooyme oti einai h bolikh qesh, h qesh ths apoysias. Ayto epilegei h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh se ena meizon zhthma. Opws kai na to kanoyme, prospaqoyn na dojastoyn kryptomenoi, ypo thn skian ths skiwdoys proedrias toys. Omws, etsi den ginetai politikh. Me to na krybesai, pisw apo to daktylo soy malista, thn wra poy antikeimenika eisai oratos, thn wra poy o ellhnikos laos perimenei mia ypeyqynh qesh, thn wra poy perimenei na toy peis an eisai yper toy polemoy h oxi, thn wra poy perimenei na toy peis pws topoqeteisai apenanti se koryfaies prwtoboylies -estw kai an eixan arnhtiko apotelesma, opws h proxqesinh- thn wra poy perimenei na toy peis ti kaneis kai pws drasthriopoieisai opoy mporeis gia thn eniaia stash ths E.E., den mporeis na krybesai kai na siwpas. Den perimename perissotera apo th N.D.. Kai den perimename perissotera, giati h N.D. den exei to qarros na emfanizetai kai na topoqeteitai panw sta krisima zhthmata. Ayto to apodeiknyei kai sto eswteriko ths xwras. Epanalambanw oti prospaqoyn na epilegoyn tis pio bolikes qeseis. Kai ayto einai h apoysia, h mh parembash toys panw sta gegonota. Giati, opws eipame, prospaqoyn na dojastoyn kryptomenoi ypo thn skian ths skiwdoys proedrias toys. Kai ayto einai to arnhtiko.

MIXAHL: Pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti apo to apotelesma twn epafwn toy k. Swthropoyloy oi men 9 xwres poy den meteixan sthn prwtoboylia, lene oti yposthrizoyn kai thn energeia toy k. Shmith kai sthrizoyn thn apofash twn Bryjelwn, enw oi 5 xwres, lene oti den feygoyn apo thn apofash twn Bryjelwn, alla epimenoyn kai sthn prwtoboylia toys. Pws einai dynaton, loipon, ayto na sygkerastei stoys kolpoys ths E.E. ;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa ti exoyn probalei ws aitiologia. Den mporw, omws, na ejhghsw thn aitiologia twn allwn. Zhtate apo ton kybernhtiko ekproswpo ths Elladas na ejhghsei thn aitiologia poy edwse o ekproswpos toy k. Mpler; Apo kei kai pera, se ayto poy qelw na topoqethqw einai to ejhs: Anamfibola h proxqesinh prwtoboylia twn oktw xwrwn den synebale se qetikh eikona ths E.E. To antiqeto malista. Dhmioyrghse mia arnhtikh eikona. Omws, apo th stigmh poy epibebaiwnetai h proshlwsh olwn stis apofaseis toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn poy eginan thn perasmenh Deytera, emeis ofeiloyme na epimeinoyme sthn kateyqynsh ths eniaias stashs ths Eyrwphs. Yparxoyn panta periqwria - kai mesa apo thn ekfrash ths qelhshs twn eyrwpaikwn lawn- na ejasfalistei h anagkaia eniaia stash: H stash poy mporei na kaqista dynath th fwnh ths Eyrwphs, kai sto Symboylio Asfaleias, alla kai genikotera apenanti se mia megalh krish, thn krish sto Irak, poy ayth th stigmh apasxolei oloklhro ton kosmo.

MIXAHL: Poies prwtoboylies qa analabei h ellhnikh Proedria sto plaisio ths E.E. wste na mhn exoyme jana tetoia diaforopoihsh h toylaxiston na jeroyme qesmika poioi symfwnoyn kai poioi diafwnoyn. Dioti eipate xqes oti den einai qesmikh leitoyrgia ayto to opoio egine.

PRWTOPAPAS: To eipe o Prwqypoyrgos me ton pio epishmo tropo.

MIXAHL: Ara, loipon, ti qa kanoyme apo edw kai pera, wste na mhn exoyme jana mia ejwqesmikh diadikasia, oso oi ejelijeis qa trexoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto, opws katalabainete, den lynetai me astynomika metra. Ayto lynetai me politikes, me prwtoboylies, me thn prospaqeia poy kataballei h ellhnikh Proedria. Eimaste parontes. Kai shmera poy milame h paroysia mas einai energh, se qemata poy aforoyn thn Proedria, dia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Yparxoyn kai shmera sxetikes dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Yparxei h synanthsh toy me thn Synomospondia Eyrwpaikwn Syndikatwn. Yparxoyn synexeis prwtoboylies gia thn eniaia stash ths Eyrwphs kai thn proodo twn qematwn ths Proedrias. H ellhnikh Proedria einai mia energh Proedria. Allwste, einai mia ypoqesh poy afora se telikh analysh olh thn Ellada, olo to Eqnos. Den einai mia ypoqesh poy afora mono thn kybernhsh. Nees prwtoboylies qa yparjoyn kai na eiste bebaioi gi ayto. Den mporw na sas pw tipota perissotero, ayth th stigmh. Meletoyme to qema. Proxqes to brady ekdhlwqhke h prwtoboylia twn oktw xwrwn. Opws gnwrizete, qa yparjei ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, sto Megaro Majimoy, synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me ton Prwqypoyrgo, kata thn opoia qa syzhthqoyn, bebaiws, kai oles oi nees prwtoboylies poy prokeitai na analhfqoyn.

POYLIDOY: H proshlwsh sth diamorfwsh eniaias stashs einai ena diadikastiko qema. To politiko einai eniaia stash pros poia kateyqynsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pros thn kateyqynsh twn apofasewn toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn ths perasmenhs Deyteras. Eniaia stash, shmainei mia eniaia parembash ths E.E., gia thn ejeyresh politikhs lyshs sto qema toy Irak. Ayto prospaqoyme.

POYLIDOY: Otan lete oti qa synexisete tis prwtoboylies, mhpws bolidoskopeite kai to endexomeno gia mia ektakth Synodo Koryfhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Parolo oti qewrhtika den mporeis na apokleiseis, otidhpote otan yparxei mia krish, ayth th stigmh poy miloyme kati tetoio den fainetai ws idiaitera piqano. Omws, yparxoyn kai alles polles prwtoboylies poy mporei na analhfqoyn. Sthn ayrianh synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me ton Prwqypoyrgo qa ejetastei to klima poy diamorfwnetai kai qa anaptyxqoyn oi kateyqynseis gia tis nees prwtoboylies poy qa analhfqoyn apo thn ellhnikh Proedria.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Se shmerinh toy synenteyjh sthn "Kaqhmerinh" o prwqypoyrgos ths Oyggarias tonizei oti h prwtoboylia twn "8" anhkei kat` arxhn sto bretano prwqypoyrgo. Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti kata thn thlefwnikh epikoinwnia poy eixe me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo kai Proedreyonta den ton enhmerwse gi` ayth thn proqesh toy, gi` ayth thn prwtoboylia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den xreiazontai sxolia edw. Einai orismenes fores poy oi katastaseis miloyn apo mones toys.

LAMPRAKOS: Kai ti qa kanei o Prwqypoyrgos meta apo ayto, dhladh oti ton agnohsan kai o k. Mpler kai o k. Mperloyskoni. Agnohsan thn Ellada, thn Proedria, ton k. Shmith. Se proswpiko epipedo bgainoyn kai geloyn, lene oti einai filoi k.l.p.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai proswpika ayta ta qemata.

LAMPRAKOS: Se proswpiko epipedo den lene "Toni, Silbio, milhsame alla den moy to eipes ayto. Egw den eimai Proedros";

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporei na ta lete glafyra, alla qelw na sas pw to ejhs: Den einai h prwth fora -qa prepei na to qymaste- poy ginontai sthn E.E. memonwmenes kinhseis, ejwqesmikoy xarakthra, orismenwn kratwn. Einai h pollosth fora, kata th diarkeia twn teleytaiwn tessarwn-pente Proedriwn, poy orismenes xwres -kai synhqws einai oi idies- probainoyn se tetoies prwtoboylies. Epomenws, exei makry dromo h prospaqeia gia thn Koinh Ejwterikh Politikh kai thn Politikh Asfaleias ths E.E. Sthn poly pio eykolh sto xeirismo ths krish sto Afganistan kai ayth akomh h koinh stash poy petyxame th Deytera den eixe epiteyxqei. Ekdhlwqhkan kai tote, poy htan poly eykolotera ta pragmata, giati oloi eixan peripoy symfwnhsei sthn anagkaiothta mias parembashs. Parola ayta, yphrxan terasties diafores sthn E.E. Ayto egine kai epi belgikhs Proedrias. To idio egine kai me thn ispanikh Proedria, to idio exei ginei kai se alles tis periptwseis, synhqws apo tis idies xwres. Yparxoyn antilhceis poy den allazoyn eykola. Yparxei mia antilhch poy ekdhlwnei h xwra mas kai polles alles gia thn Koinh Ejwterikh Politikh kai Politikh Asfaleias ths E.E. Exei kaneis antirrhsh oti o dromos gia na to petyxoyme ayto einai makrys kai dysbatos kai oti xreiazetai pollh prospaqeia; Oti yparxoyn kai antitiqemena symferonta, se ayth thn anagkaiothta gia thn Eyrwph kai toys laoys ths, kai ayta ekdhlwnontai me kaqe tropo; Exei kaneis thn ceydaisqhsh oti o stoxos, to orama, qa elega, h strathgikh ayth, ginetai apo mera se mera kai me proswpikes mono parembaseis h se epipedo proswpikwn antiparaqesewn; Exoyme ena safh stoxo kai mia safh strathgikh. Den jerw poio qa einai telika to apotelesma ths E.E. gyrw apo thn krish sto Irak. Gia ena mporei na eimai bebaios kai ayto mporw na sas to eggyhqw: Qa kataballoyme, ston idio stoxo, sthn idia strathgikh kai me thn idia pisth kai proshlwsh, oles tis dynates prospaqeies, sthrizomenoi sthn oloena kai megalyterh sthrijh twn lawn ths Eyrwphs gia thn epiteyjh aytoy toy stoxoy.

LAMPRAKOS: Se ayth thn periptwsh, omws, aisqanomaste, toylaxiston meros twn politwn, ws amelhtea posothta sthn E.E., otan den se logariazoyn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me sygxwreite, kata th gnwmh sas, oi Galloi, oi Germanoi ti exoyn na poyn;

LAMPRAKOS: Den proedreyoyn oyte oi Galloi, oyte oi Germanoi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai otan prohdreyan oi Ispanoi o k. Mpler eixe analabei prwtoboylies se diaforetikh kateyqynsh. Opws, epishs, kai epi belgikhs kai epi danikhs Proedrias sth synexeia. Ayto ginetai epi tesseris-pente Proedries synexeia. Ektos an qelete na moy peite oti den ypologizontai oyte oi Galloi, oyte oi Germanoi, oyte oi Ispanoi, oyte oi Italoi, oyte oi Ellhnes. Mhn epixeiroyme na dhmioyrgoyme thn eikona oti emeis eimaste to problhma. Gnwrizete giati egine ayth h energeia kai ti stoxo eixe. Ekeinoi poy espeysan shmera na baloyn prwtoselida "ti Proedria einai ayth", jexasan thn apofash toy Genikoy Symboylioy ths Deyteras. Jexasan pws egine h synedriash ths Deyteras kai pws epiblhqhke, ek twn pragmatwn, katw apo megales prospaqeies, ayth h apofash kai se telikh analysh, jexasan h den eidan ta shmerina dhmosieymata toy Typoy se olh thn Eyrwph kai tis dhlwseis poy exoyn ginei. Epiteloys, as anoijoyn ligo ta matia toys prin kanoyn tetoies anafores. O kommatismos den einai to pan.

POYLIDOY: To gegonos oti synypografoyn treis ypochfies xwres, dhmioyrgei kapoia anhsyxia sthn kybernhsh oti mporei na yparjoyn parenergeies sth dieyrynsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Katalabainete poly kala. Den xreiazetai na kanoyme peraiterw anafores gi` ayto.

PANAGIWTIDOY: Xqes, kateqese o k. Aggelopoylos pali ston eisaggelea. Exoyme twra nees ejelijeis. Ti ginetai me ayth thn istoria; Epishs, qa hqela ena sxolio gia th synenteyjh toy k. Mixalopoyloy, xqes, sthn ka Stah.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa asxolhqei h kybernhsh me ton k. Mixalopoylo. Alloi einai armodioi na asxolhqoyn. Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, den mporw na gnwrizw ti eipe o k. Aggelopoylos, oyte kapoios allos. Dioti, opws gnwrizete, h diadikasia ths ejetashs einai mystikh kai th gnwrizei mono o eisaggeleas, o opoios th diejagei. Otan aytos katalhjei, qa bgalei to porisma toy kai qa enhmerwsei toys anwteroys toy. Tote qa to maqoyme, bebaiws, epishmws. As exoyme, loipon, ligo ypomonh. Gi` ayto poy qelw na eiste bebaioi, meta kai th xqesinh parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, einai oti oles oi ypoqeseis poy ekkremoyn qa ejetastoyn sthn wra toys. Ekeines poy prepei na odhghqoyn sto dikasthrio qa odhghqoyn kai qa exoyme apotelesmata.

LAMPRAKOS: Mia agglikh etairia kai h Omospondia Praktorwn Elladas prosefygan sto StE, kataggellontas th symbash gia to JYSTO. Ti exete na peite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exei dikaiwma kaqe poliths na prosfeygei sto StE.

LAMPRAKOS: Nai, alla miloyn gia sygkekrimena pragmata...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ta krinei to StE.

LAMPRAKOS: Den qigetai, omws, h kybernhsh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qigetai apo tis prosfyges sto StE; Kaqe mera ginontai ekatontades. Einai dikaiwma toy polith na prosfeygei sto StE, otan mia prajh ths Dioikhshs ektima oti ton qigei. Prosfata, gia paradeigma, to StE ekrine prosfygh kapoioy megaloergolaboy kata toy nomoy gia to asymbibasto kai edwse entolh sto ESR na proxwrhsei. Apanthqhkan etsi oi aitiaseis orismenwn peri syntagmatikothtas toy nomoy.

Sxetika me thn ekkremoysa apanthsh moy se erwthsh sas, ean zhthsan oi Galloi ellimenismo ploiwn toys sth Soyda, qa hqela na sas pw oti ontws yparxei sxetiko aithma ths Gallias, alla oxi pros to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas, alla pros to GEN. Me bash tis dieqneis symbaseis poy yparxoyn, to GEN exei dwsei thn egkrish gia kapoies limenikes dieykolynseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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