Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-02-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Febroyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Stis 12 to meshmeri, eixe synanthsh me ton epikefalhs twn Ellhnwn Eyrwboyleytwn Giwrgo Kathforh.

@Apo tis 12.30, exei synanthsh me thn ka Gianna Aggelopoyloy, ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Eyaggelo Benizelo, ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh, ton yfypoyrgo Politismoy Naso Aleyra kai ton yfypoyrgo Typoy Thlemaxo Xythrh, gia qemata poy aforoyn toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai ton proypologismo toys.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas Gianno Papantwnioy.

@Stis 12 to meshmeri, me thn ka Gianna Aggelopoyloy. Einai mia synanthsh poy zhthse h ka Aggelopoyloy.

@To apogeyma, peripoy stis 7, o Prwqypoyrgos qa einai sth Boylh, sthn pro hmerhsias syzhthsh metajy arxhgwn gia ta qemata ths dhmosias dioikhshs.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa ginei mia akoma syskech gia to G` K.P.S. Qa exei diadoxikes syzhthseis me toys ypoyrgoys K. Skandalidh, A. Tsoxatzopoylo, K. Stefanh kai G. Dry, paroysia toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai toy yfypoyrgoy Xr. Paxta.

@Stis 13.00, qa synanthqei me ton A@ antiproedro toy Iran k. Moxament Reza Ref. Stis 14.00, qa exei synanthsh me to Grammatea toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me antikeimeno thn politikh ston tomea ths Eqnikhs Amynas.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Gewrgias Giwrgo Dry.

@Stis 11:30, qa ginei syskech ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, gia thn anabaqmish twn yphresiwn dhmosias ygeias, apo oloys toys foreis poy thn parexoyn, paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Ygeias Kwsta Stefanh, toy yfypoyrgoy Ektora Nasiwka, ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias, twn kyriwn Reppa kai Spyropoyloy kai toy dioikhth toy IKA k. Nektarioy.

@Stis 13:30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me th Dhmarxo Aqhnaiwn ka Ntora Mpakogiannh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sth synanthsh me ton k. Gianno Papantwnioy ti qema qa syzhthqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa syzhthsoyn gia thn proetoimasia toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas den blepw kamia synanthsh me ton k. Papandreoy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, qa leipei olh thn ebdomada. Einai, hdh, sthn Iordania. Brisketai se ejelijh h periodeia toy stis arabikes xwres -phge hdh sth Syria- gia na anaptyjei tis qeseis ths ellhnikhs Proedrias. Meta thn oloklhrwsh ths periodeias toy, poy einai pragmati shmantikh, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy qa metabei sth Nea Yorkh, opoy qa exei syzhthseis, sto plaisio toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE. Qa exei thn eykairia na syzhthsei kai me toys tesseris ekproswpoys twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. poy metexoyn sto Symboylio Asfaleias, piqanon kai me alloys paragontes, kaqws kai me paragontes toy Symboylioy Asfaleias. Einai mia idiaitera shmantikh prwtoboylia, dioti ej ayths qa ejaxqoyn kai oi mellontikes prwtoboylies kai kinhseis ths ellhnikhs Proedrias.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Den jerw ean exete hdh pei, giati apoysiasa dyo fores, gia tis synanthseis poy eixe o k. Papandreoy sthn Toyrkia, oi opoies htan ychloy epipedoy, an apedwse ayto to tajidi toy, oson afora tis ejelijeis sto Kypriako;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na qymisw oti to tajidi htan programmatismeno kai aytos htan o kyrios stoxos toy, sto plaisio twn synanthsewn ths ellhnikhs Proedrias. Bebaiws, o k. Papandreoy, sto plaisio aytwn twn epafwn, eixe thn eykairia na syzhthsei kai qemata poy aptontai ths epilyshs toy politikoy problhmatos ths Kyproy, kaqws kai genikotera zhthmata me thn Toyrkia. Alla, den yparxei kapoia katalhjh gia na mporoyme na sas enhmerwsoyme. Aytes oi epafes, opws gnwrizete, proetoimazoyn genikotera to klima kai tis epomenes kinhseis poy qa ginoyn.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Exoyme tipota neotero gia to qema twn syllhcewn kai thn prospaqeia poy kataballetai gia thn ejarqrwsh toy ``E.L.A.'';

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to qema twn syllhcewn htan, einai kai qa einai armodies oi diwktikes kai eisaggelikes arxes, poy to parakoloyqoyn. H kybernhsh den mporei oyte na proanaggellei, alla oyte kai na gnwrizei tis akribeis kinhseis kai to xrono aytwn twn kinhsewn poy kanoyn oi diwktikes h oi eisaggelikes arxes. H kybernhsh exei panta safh stoxo kai mesa se ayto to politiko plaisio kaqodhgei tis kinhseis, gia thn patajh ths tromokratias kai thn ejarqrwsh olwn twn tromokratikwn organwsewn, pantote bebaia sto plaisio toy kratoys dikaioy. Epomenws, oi sxetikes kateyqynseis exoyn doqei. H ereyna qa proxwrhsei kai qa fqasei se baqos. Oi tromokratikes organwseis qa ejarqrwqoyn sto synolo toys. H Ellada einai kai qa einai mia apo tis pio asfaleis xwres toy kosmoy. To agos ths tromokratias, ena agos poy talaipwrhse thn ellhnikh koinwnia kai thn Ellada genikotera gia polles dekaeties, qa pacei na mas barynei, qa pacei na mas talaipwrei. Ayth einai h politikh kateyqynsh poy dinei h kybernhsh. Apo kei kai pera, gia to xrono, ton ariqmo twn syllhcewn kai thn tekmhriwsh twn kathgoriwn, yparxoyn oi armodies arxes poy kanoyn th doyleia toys.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Gia th syllhch toy koinotarxh ths Kimwloy yphrjan diafores plhrofories, oi opoies toy prosdidoyn kai kapoia politikh taytothta. Sas rwtw, eyqews, ton syndeei h kybernhsh me to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh, ston agwna ths gia thn patajh ths tromokratias, den koita kamia politikh taytothta. Kai oi diwktikes arxes kanoyn to idio, kinoyntai mono basei stoixeiwn poy syndeoyn sygkekrimena proswpa me tromokratikes energeies. Den endiaferei kanenan, oyte ta pisteyw toy kaqenos, oyte poy anhkei. Ekeino poy mas endiaferei -kai me bash ayto kinoymaste- einai, ean kapoios exei emplokh se tromokratikes energeies na ypostei tis synepeies. Pisteyw oti se ayto exoyme symfwnhsei oloi. Den eimaste emeis ekeinoi poy epixeirhsan, kai sto apwtero, alla kai sto prosfato parelqon, me aparadektes energeies na kanoyn syndesh ths tromokratias me politikes paratajeis. To "paramyqi" ths syndeshs ths tromokratias me thn Aristera den to exoyme efeyrei, oyte to anaptyjame emeis. To ekanan sygkekrimenoi paragontes toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Aytoi, tosa xronia, aneptyjan aytoys toys isxyrismoys. Parelaynoyn oi idioi, kaqe ligo kai ligaki, apo ta kanalia gia na mas poyn ta idia qlibera paramyqia. Den jeroyme poioi kanoyn tetoies energeies; Makria apo mas aytes oi logikes. To qema ths tromokratias -to exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch, kai paramenoyme staqera s` ayto- den prosferetai gia kommatikh ekmetalleysh. H tromokratia einai mia istoria poy afora oloys toys Ellhnes kai h katapolemhsh ths prepei na enwnei olo to lao.

TAKHS: Gnwrizete ean h antitromokratikh yphresia, h Astynomia, o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs, oi eisaggelikes arxes, gnwrizan ta stoixeia gia ton koinotarxh Kimwloy, prin apo tis dhmotikes ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan yparxoyn stoixeia gia kapoion, oi diwktikes arxes kinoyntai amesws. Epomenws, ta stoixeia ayta -kata tis diwktikes kai eisaggelikes arxes poy parakoloyqoyn to qema ths ereynas- eferan ws apotelesma thn twrinh syllhch toy. Ayto shmainei oti twra yphrjan ta sxetika stoixeia. Den mporei na syllhfqei kapoios xwris stoixeia. Oyte mporei na syllhfqei, dioti bghke kapoio onoma ston aera apo kapoioys. Ara, otan egine dynath h ektimhsh oti gia kapoion yparxoyn apodeijeis kai apoxrwses endeijeis gyrw apo tromokratikh drasthriothta, amesws kinhqhkan oi sxetikes diadikasies. Den paizoyme politika me ayta. Alloi epixeirhsan na kanoyn th syndesh metajy Aristeras kai tromokratias, mia anistorhth kai epikindynh syndesh. Ena paramyqi, poy tosa xronia mas talaipwrhse. Prosfata, sta kanalia, alla kai sth Boylh, stelexh -kai malista ychla- ths N.D. prospaqhsan na emplejoyn kai na syndesoyn to PASOK me thn tromokratia. Ayth h epiqesh, ayto to paramyqi, epese sto keno. Geloiopoihqhke plhrws. Parola ayta, orismenoi epixeiroyn na synexisoyn akoma. Toys eidame kai xqes sta kanalia. Einai oi "eidikoi" gia thn tromokratia, oi opoioi bebaiws qa mporoysa na pw oti einai toso "eidikoi" poy den mporoyn na doyn pera apo th myth toys, opws apodeixqhke.

Alla, emeis den epixeiroyme na kanoyme kommatikh ekmetalleysh. Qa mporoysame, me megalh eykolia, ean eixame aytes tis arrwstes logikes poy exoyn orismenoi, na poyme tetoia pragmata, alla den ta leme. Gi` ayto kai katadikasame tis energeies ths N.D. kai twn stelexwn ths, poy, akoma kai xqes, epixeiroysan na mplejoyn oloklhrh paratajh me thn tromokratia kai malista me idiaitera anistorhto kai epikindyno tropo.

TAKHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean eiste ikanopoihmenos apo ton tropo poy egine h syllhch toy k. Kana, me thleoptikes kameres na parelaynoyn, na ekdidei eisithria k.t.l.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti o k. Kanas tajidece ypo thn prostasia twn thleoptikwn synergeiwn.

TAKHS: Nai. Ayto leme, epeidh to onoma toy eixe fwtografhqei edw kai ebdomades.

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Kanas ekane oloklhro "sooy" gia thn thleorash, alla ayto den mas afora. Ayto einai diko sas kai diko toy qema.

TAKHS: Den afora thn antitromokratikh yphresia;

PRWTOPAPAS: H antitromokratikh yphresia ekane poly kala th doyleia ths.

TAKHS: Den qa mporoyse na ton perimenei sto ploio kai na ton syllabei ekei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H antitromokratikh yphresia ektimhse to kalytero dynato meros, prokeimenoy, kata ton pio hsyxo tropo, na ginei h syllhch toy k. Kana. Den qa prosferoyme "sooy" sta kanalia. Den gnwrizw an kapoioi stenaxwrhqhkan epeidh den yphrje to sxetiko "sooy". H doyleia mas den einai na prosferoyme "sooy" sta kanalia. O diwktikes arxes kanoyn poly kala th doyleia toys. Den prepei na krinete me thleoptika krithria.

TAKHS: Kaqe allo. Qa mporoysan na ton eixan syllabei sth Kimwlo, prin erqei kai kanei to sooy sthn Aqhna.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pote syllambanetai kapoios, ektimatai apo tis diwktikes arxes. Den ektimatai, oyte apo thn kybernhsh, oyte apo mena, oyte apo tis thleoraseis. Ayta den einai pragmata poy exoyn na kanoyn me to sobaro ergo twn diwktikwn arxwn, to opoio exei apodeixqei, kat` epanalhch.

MIXAHL: Pera apo tis eyqynes twn thleoptikwn staqmwn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den kathgorhsa kanenan.

MIXAHL: Pera apo tis eyqynes, qa hqela na sas qesw to ejhs erwthma...

PRWTOPAPAS: "Eyqynes", to lete eseis.

MIXAHL: Nai, egw to lew. Ean, loipon, ypoqesoyme oti yparxoyn eyqynes thleoptikwn kanaliwn gia olh ayth thn istoria, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, giati h antitromokratikh poy exei th dynatothta -kai mh moy peite oti den thn exei- epetrece na symbei ayto, ti stigmh kata thn opoia sas qymizw oti stis syllhceis toy Kwstarh phge elikoptero toys phre kai toys efere. Kallista mporoysan na kanoyn kai edw to idio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den skefteste oti piqanon oi diwktikes arxes na perimenan kapoio stoixeio h na eixan kapoio nomiko logo gia ton opoio na epelejan th sygkekrimenh mera; Dhladh, ta gnwrizete ola; Profanws h eixan kapoio nomiko logo h perimenan kapoio stoixeio h kapoia teleytaia plhroforia, poy den mporw na gnwrizw. H ektimhsh poy yparxei einai oti, molis efqasan ekei poy hqelan, kinhqhkan parayta. Oson afora th xronikh stigmh poy epelejan, einai qema poy exei na kanei me th swsth kinhsh toys.

IWANNOY: Katadikasate kapoia fainomena politikwn poy bghkan stis thleoraseis kai janaeipan ayth thn istoria. Gia enan apo toys syllhfqentes htan gnwsth h taytothta toy nomizw apo @95 h @96. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean den yphrxan ta eparkh stoixeia ola ayta ta xronia, dhladh kai gia alla onomata poy exoyn akoystei ola ayta ta xronia, mporoyme na perimenoyme analoges syllhceis gnwstwn ypoptwn sto mellon, molis yparjoyn ta aparaithta stoixeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporei kapoios na einai ypoptos gia polla xronia stis diwktikes arxes kai na tekmhriwqei h oxi h enoxh toy. Den syllambanontai, me bash to Syntagma kai toys nomoys mas, polites, epeidh kapoios ypociazetai kapoion. Dioti, ean htan etsi, den qa xwragan oi fylakes. Profanws, oi diwktikes arxes, gia osoys ypociazontan, ekanan thn ereyna toys. Gia kapoioys yphrjan stoixeia, gia kapoioys yphrje h bebaiothta oti einai aqwoi, gia kapoioys mporei na yparxoyn ypocies h den tekmhriwqhke h enoxh toys. Etsi ginetai h sobarh doyleia twn diwktikwn arxwn. Den ginetai me to na petame onomata sthn thleorash. Dioti, deigma ths aneyqynothtas me thn opoia kinoyntai orismenoi einai oti dhmioyrghqhkan tragelafika fainomena sto qema toy E.L.A.. Ypotiqetai oti yphrxan "eidikoi" gia thn tromokratia, poy ta gnwrizan kai ta elegan ola, xrhsimopoiwntas kai onomata polles fores, oi opoioi thn idia stigmh edeixnan thn agnoia toys kai th mh enhmerwsh toys syndialegomenoi me merikoys apo aytoys poy qewroyntai ypoptoi. Ayto shmainei aneyqynothta.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Poioys ennoeite;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai para poly safes. Ayto einai stoixeio aneyqynothtas. Den kathgoroyme oyte gia proqesh, pros Qeoy, den yparxei tetoio qema. Deixnei, omws, aneyqynothta otan petas onomata sthn tyxh apo thn thleorash.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Metajy twn pollwn poy akoysthkan xqes -kai malista apo ychlobaqmo stelexos ths N.D.- oti stis peribohtes listes ths STAZI perilambanontai kai onomata megaloepixeirhmatiwn, kai malista to onoma toy k. Swkrath Kokkalh, me dedomeno oti yparxei se ejelijh mia dikastikh ypoqesh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Synexizoyme thn onomatologia, pali to idios laqos kanoyme.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Rwtaw ean h kybernhsh exei kapoia plhroforhsh epi toy periexomenoy ths listas..

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas exw pei polles fores oti h kybernhsh exei ereynhsei me pollh prosoxh, opoies plhrofories mporei na syllejei apo ta stoixeia ths STAZI. Kai ta arxeia ths STAZI den nomizw oti kaneis leei oti einai eyaggelio. Yphrjan kapoies plhrofories, oi opoies ereynhqhkan kai o,ti htan ajiopoihsimo, ajiopoihqhke. Apo ekei kai pera, h olh ypoqesh proypoqetei mia sobarh kai ypeyqynh doyleia. Kai to xeirotero poy exoyme na kanoyme einai na petame onomata. O,ti bghke apo tis ereynes poy eginan, anakoinwqhke. Den qewrw, pera apo to ti exei o kaqenas me kapoion allo, kai tis antidikies poy yparxoyn, tis kommatikes antiqeseis, oti einai swsto kai sobaro na epixeiroyme na synexisoyme thn idia taktikh twn "paraqyrwn" kai ths xydhn paraqeshs onomatwn. Den mporoyme na akoloyqhsoyme ayth th logikh, einai paranoia.

IWANNOY: Dhladh, teleiwse h olh ejetash twn arxeiwn ths STAZI h mporei na yparjei synexeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan mia ereyna einai se ejelijh kai otan ginontai anakriseis -kai ayth th stigmh ginontai anakriseis kai syllhfqentwn- den mporei na jeroyme ti qa prokycei. Den exoyme kati allo na sas poyme ayth th stigmh. Oyte emeis gnwrizoyme bebaiws, dioti den parembainoyme sto ergo twn diwktikwn kai eisaggelikwn arxwn.

IWANNOY: Dhladh, o fakelos ths STAZI kai h ajiopoihsh aytwn twn onomatwn den exei kleisei, ayto rwtaw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gyrw apo ta qemata mias tromokratikhs organwshs, den ajiologeitai mono mia plhroforia, ajiologoyntai para polles plhrofories. To idio egine kai me ton E.L.A.. O,ti eixame sta xeria mas, poy den htan mono apo th STAZI, alla apo para polles phges, o,ti mporoysame na syllejoyme, kai apo thn ereyna poy ekanan oi diwktikes arxes, to ajiopoihsame. Kai exei ginei mia para poly sobarh, systhmatikh, ypeyqynh kai xamhlwn tonwn doyleia, xwris thleoptika paraqyra kai xydhn petama onomatwn, analoga me to pws boleyei ton kaqena. Otidhpote allo prokycei apo ayth thn ereyna kai thn anakrish poy ginetai, den mporw na to jerw. Ekeino poy mporw na sas diabebaiwsw einai h ypeyqynh, systhmatikh kai sobarh doyleia poy ginetai. Kai qa hqela na systhsw sobarothta, idiaitera se aytoys poy epixeiroyn na kanoyn toys eidikoys, dioti ektiqentai oi idioi. Kai ekteqhkan kai se ayth thn ypoqesh. Tiqetai qema sobarothtas.

NIKOLAKAKOS: Gia na mh synexizetai h onomatologia, apo poy nomizete oti proerxontai aytes oi plhrofories kai ta kanalia eftasan sthn Kimwlo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw.

NIKOLAKAKOS: Apo poy proerxontai oi plhrofories kai gia alla onomata poy blepoyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas, alla pote den kathgoroyntai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws jerete, se olh ayth thn istoria twn ereynwn gia thn tromokratia, epaneilhmmena aisqanqhkame oloi para poly asxhma apo thn onomatologia. Egw den aisqanqhka kaqoloy kala kai to eipa oles tis fores kata th diarkeia twn synanthsewn mas, otan eida na diasyrontai diaforoi anqrwpoi. Paradeigma, o opoios me ejoysiodothse na to lew, o k. Basilhs Basilikos, anaferqhke xwris logo, apla kai mono dioti etsi aisqanqhke kapoios oti qa "poylhsei" perissotero h dioti kapoios allos aisqanqhke oti qa kanei ton ejypno stis thleoraseis. Xreiazetai sobarothta, prepei na stamathsoyn oi aneyqynothtes. Kapoia stigmh, epiteloys, qa prepei na to prosejoyme ayto. Exoyme h den exoyme empistosynh stis diwktikes arxes; Kaneis den yparxei poy na leei oti den exoyme empistosynh. Prepei na toys afhsoyme, epiteloys, na kanoyn th doyleia toys. Den prosferetai gia thleoptiko sooy h istoria ths tromokratias kai oles aytes oi geloiothtes poy akoysame kai xqes stis thleoraseis.

A. PAPADOPOYLOS: Wstoso, o k. Kamenos kathgorhse xqes ton ypoyrgo oti epilektika stelnei mhnymata se dhmosiografoys, diarreontas eidhseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Synistoyme perissoterh sobarothta kai eyqynh s` ayton ton kyrio.

MIXAHL: Ektos ths prwtoboylias toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn poy qa paei sto Symboylio Asfaleias, se allo epipedo h Ellhnikh Proedria kineitai sto plaisio ths E.E., etsi wste na exoyme mia enisxytikh, as to poyme, stash twn Eyrwpaiwn se opoies apofaseis lhfqoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Papandreoy brisketai shmera stis arabikes xwres, oi opoies einai gyrw apo to Irak. Ayth den einai prwtoboylia; Einai mia poly kalh kai sobarh prwtoboylia. Amesws meta qa paei sth N. Yorkh. Einai mia deyterh prwtoboylia. Qa yparxoyn synexeis prwtoboylies kai den mporoyme na tis prokaqorisoyme oles, dioti den mporoyme na gnwrizoyme thn apofash toy Symboylioy Asfaleias. Einai reysth h katastash. Me bash tis apofaseis kai tis ejelijeis qa kaqoristoyn kai oi epomenes kinhseis mas. Eimaste se mia poly lepth fash kai oloi katalabainoyme oti qelei poly ypeyqynes kinhseis, pros thn idia panta kateyqynsh.

Oson afora to erwthma poy eixe qesei h ka Poylidoy kai ekkremei apanthsh moy, pragmati, o ploiarxos toy ``PRESTIZ'' krateitai profylakismenos stis ispanikes fylakes, me apofash toy armodioy Ispanoy Eisaggelea. Yparxei ena diabhma ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs pros tis politikes arxes ths Ispanias, alla metajy twn ypoyrgeiwn. Opws gnwrizete, den mporei kaneis na ephreasei thn apofash toy Ispanoy Eisaggelea.

POYLIDOY: Egw eixa rwthsei, ean exei apaggelqei kathgorhthrio, giati mexri prin apo eikosi meres poy eixa enhmerwqei, den eixe apaggelqei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pantws exei kriqei profylakisteos kai exei oristei ena ycos eggyhshs to opoio einai ejwpragmatiko. Alla, den mporoyme na kanoyme tipota, dioti sth syzhthsh poy yphrje metajy twn ypoyrgeiwn, dhlwqhke adynamia. Den mporei na ephreasei kaneis thn ispanikh dikaiosynh, oyte emeis profanws, oyte aytoi. Aplws egine mia syzhthsh, ekdhlwqhke, dhladh, to endiaferon ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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