Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-01-27

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na jekinhsoyme me to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas:

Shmera, stis 7 to apogeyma, qa proedreysei ths synedriashs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK, h opoia qa exei ws kyrio qema thn poreia anasygkrothshs toy Kinhmatos, alla ena zwntano politiko organo asxoleitai panta kai me ta qemata ths epikairothtas.

Ayrio, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me tis organwseis twn Eyrwpaiwn ergodotwn kai sth synexeia qa probei se dhlwseis, me thn idiothta bebaiws toy proedreyontos toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy.

Stis 14.00, qa synanthqei me ton k. Nikhforo Diamantoyro.

Thn Tetarth to prwi, yparxoyn dyo programmatismenes synanthseis, 10 kai 11 h wra, gia to G@ K.P.S.. Kai oi dyo synanthseis qa ginoyn me thn paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Nikoy Xristodoylakh kai toy armodioy yfypoyrgoy Xrhstoy Paxta. Sthn prwth synanthsh qa symmetasxoyn o ypoyrgos Metaforwn Xrhstos Berelhs kai h ypoyrgos PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy kai sth deyterh o ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs Akhs Tsoxatzopoylos kai o ypoyrgos Gewrgias Giwrgos Drys, opws kai kapoios apo thn politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias, epeidh o ypoyrgos Ygeias apoysiazei sto ejwteriko.

Stis 13.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn Kwsta Skandalidh kai mish wra argotera exei programmatistei h koph ths pitas toy Megaroy Majimoy.

Stis 19.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me ton Oyggro omologo toy kai sth synexeia qa toy paraqesei deipno.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio me qema th metanasteytikh politikh kai tis prwtoboylies ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias ston tomea ayto.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh me th Synomospondia Eyrwpaikwn Syndikatwn, sthn opoia qa einai parwn kai o Proedros ths GSEE Xrhstos Polyzwgopoylos.

Opws gnwrizete, shmera synedriazei stis Bryjelles to Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. To prwi, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy synanthqhke me toys ekproswpoys twn xwrwn ths E.E., oi opoies metexoyn sto Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE. Ayth thn wra, ginetai syzhthsh kai bebaiws den gnwrizoyme akomh to apotelesma twn syzhthsewn. Molis ginei gnwsto, qa sas enhmerwsoyme.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KALARITHS: Epi toy teleytaioy hqela na rwthsw. Yparxei mia plhroforia oti h Ellhnikh Proedria kateqese ena sxedio protashs stoys "4" poy synanthse o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Yparxei kati ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimai se qesh ayth th stigmh, mias kai den exei teleiwsei to Symboylio, na sas dwsw ton apologismo. Omws, ontws, katateqhkan protaseis ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias. To prwi enhmerwqhkan oi tesseris ekproswpoi twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. poy metexoyn sto S.A. kai, opws sas eipa, twra ginetai syzhthsh sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Me thn eykairia, qeloyme na jekaqarisoyme to ejhs, se sxesh me thn krish sto Irak: Oi prospaqeies ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias apoblepoyn sto na yparjei eniaia qesh ths E.E. sthn ypoqesh ayth. Mia qesh, h opoia bebaiws qa einai sthn kateyqynsh ths politikhs epilyshs toy problhmatos poy exei anakycei me to Irak. Qeloyme na diafylajoyme thn eirhnh. O polemos den einai monodromos. Yparxoyn kai alloi tropoi, tropoi eirhnikoi, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata poy yparxoyn. Se ayth thn kateyqynsh prepei na parembei h E.E. me eniaia fwnh. H Eyrwph den mporei na einai oyra kanenos. Prepei, loipon, na parembei kai na akoysei tis fwnes olwn aytwn twn koinwnikwn organwsewn poy diadhlwnoyn ayth th stigmh se oles tis xwres, na ginei syneidhsh se oloys mas oti h bia kai o polemos den einai monodromos, alla epikindyno adiejodo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mporei h E.E. na odhghqei se mia eniaia strathgikh, otan exoyme toys Gallo-Germanoys apo th mia, toys Egglezoys apo thn allh, poy symmetexoyn; Den katalabainw pws mporei na ejeyreqei lysh se ayto to problhma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa prospaqhsoyme. H Ellhnikh Proedria, opws eixame proanaggeilei kai to ekane shmera, analambanei prwtoboylies se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Qa prospaqhsoyme me oles tis dynameis mas.

MPOTWNHS: O Amerikanos Proedros eixe thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, mexri ayth th stigmh poy milame, den yphrje epikoinwnia, alla bebaiws kaneis den mporei na to apokleisei.

MIXAHL: Otan lete oti h Eyrwph prepei na parembei kai oti den mporei na einai oyra kanenos, giati to lete ayto; Diaisqaneste oti telika h Eyrwph repei -na to pw etsi- pros to na mhn epembei, sto na mhn mporesei na kanei mia emfanish tetoia poy na prosdiorisei kai na ephreasei ta gegonota;

PRWTOPAPAS: Emeis qeloyme thn koinh ejwterikh politikh kai politikh asfaleias ths E.E.. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh analambanoyme prwtoboylies. Ayto kaname kai shmera dia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn.

MIXAHL: Ara, to na lete oti h Eyrwph prepei na parembei kai na mhn einai oyra, shmainei oti mexri stigmhs blepete apo tis epafes sas oti h E.E. den mporei na exei koinh grammh. To epiqymei men, alla den mporei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ws Proedria kai me thn antilhch poy exei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia thn poreia ths Eyrwphs, kataballoyme prospaqeies pros thn kateyqynsh ths eniaias qeshs. Qa to kanoyme kai telika qa ektimhsoyme mazi ta apotelesmata.

TAKHS: Mias kai milame gia eniaia stash kai gia eyrwpaikh logikh, giati emeis sto NATO proxqes chfisame yper twn amerikanikwn qesewn kai hrqame se sygkroysh me toys Galloys kai toys Germanoys, pairnontas sygxarhthria apo ton Mperns;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den chfisame yper twn Amerikanwn. Htan mia syzhthsh texnikoy xarakthra, h opoia se tipota den anairoyse th genikh politikh grammh poy akoloyqoyme. Htan mia kaqara texnikh syzhthsh se epipedo yphresiakwn paragontwn, eixe na kanei me thn kalych ths Toyrkias. Se tipota den mporei kaneis na anairesei th genikh politikh, thn politikh strathgikh sto qema ayto, thn opoia akoloyqei me synepeia h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

GKROMAN: Yparxei kapoia programmatismenh synanthsh toy k. Shmith kai toy k. Mperloyskoni, thn epomenh ebdomada, sthn Aqhna;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean yparjei tetoia synanthsh, qa sas enhmerwsw. Enocei ejelijewn sto Irak, piqano na yparjoyn epikoinwnies, tis opoies, ayth th stigmh, den mporw na problecw. Einai logiko, twra poy exoyme thn Proedria, ean yparjei kapoia ejelijh, eite sto Symboylio Asfaleias, eite opoydhpote alloy, na yparjoyn epikoinwnies, alla, ayth th stigmh, den mporw na sas prokaqorisw poies qa einai.

POYLIDOY: H Ellhnikh Proedria proetoimazei, mhpws, ektakth Synodo Koryfhs gia to Irak;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kati poy mporw na sas pw, ayth th stigmh. Sas eipa oti analambanoyme synexws prwtoboylies pros ayth thn kateyqynsh kai qa sas enhmerwnoyme gi` aytes. Alla, katalabainete oti aytes ejartwntai apo polla pragmata. Proanaggelloyme to endiaferon mas gia koinh stash ths Eyrwphs.

POYLIDOY: Sas rwtw, giati o k. Mperloyskoni eipe kati tetoio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo o,ti exw plhroforhqei, yphrje mia thlefwnikh epikoinwnia metajy toy k. Mperloyskoni kai toy k. Aqnar, oi opoioi ektimhsan thn katastash kai milhsan gia kapoia synanthsh pro toy Symboylioy Genikwn Ypoqesewn. O k. Aqnar epikoinwnhse me ton k. Shmith kai egine sxetikh syzhthsh. Alla, prin arxisei to Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn shmera, egine synanthsh, se epipedo Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn.

IWANNOY: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean o Prwqypoyrgos esteile sygxarhthrio thlegrafhma ston Proedro ths N.D. gia thn egkymosynh ths syzygoy toy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Se aytes tis periptwseis, prepei prwta na perimenoyme oloi to eytyxes gegonos. Ekeino poy qelw na pw einai oti eyxomaste ola na pane kala kai na yparjei mia eykolh kai xwris problhma gennhsh twn paidiwn.

A. PAPADOPOYLOS: Symfwnei h kybernhsh me ton k. Laliwth, poy protrepei toys opadoys kai ta stelexh toy PASOK se antipolemikh diadhlwsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai diaforetikos o rolos ths kybernhshs kai diaforetikos o rolos toy kommatos. H kybernhsh xarassei ena politiko plaisio sto opoio kineitai kai eidika me to baros ths Proedrias ths E.E. Epomenws, h kybernhsh den mporei na diorganwnei diadhlwseis. Exei enan allo rolo, mia diaforetikh leitoyrgia, eidika apo th stigmh poy exei kai thn Proedria ths E.E. Safws, omws, to komma mas exei enan teleiws diaforetiko rolo. Exei amesh sxesh me ta koinwnika kinhmata kai qewrw apolytws swsto to gegonos oti to komma mas ejaggellei th symmetoxh toy stis diadikasies twn koinwnikwn kinhmatwn. Pisteyw oti einai kai aytos enas apo toys roloys toy.

MIXAHL: Gia thn katagrafh ths apanthshs sas, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean yparxei qema prowrwn eklogwn. Dioti, eidame pali nea dhmosieymata na bgainoyn kai polla senaria me aformh syzhthseis kai dhlwseis sto eswteriko toy kommatos sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Osoi perimenoyn prowres ekloges qa apogohteyqoyn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Telika, h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei parei plhroforhsh oti ontws yparxei ena trito anaqewrhmeno Sxedio Anan, to opoio, malista, opws ekfrazetai ston kypriako Typo, legetai oti qa kleinei perissotero pros tis qeseis poy exei ekfrasei o k. Ntenktas teleytaia, idiaitera sto edafiko. Epishs, qelw na sxoliasete thn episkech toy k. Giakis ston toyrkokypriako tomea kai th synanthsh poy qa exei me ton Ntenktas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Synanthseis Toyrkwn epishmwn me thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra, kaqws kai episkeceis toys sta katexomena einai synhqes fainomeno. Me ayth thn ennoia, ta sxolia poy kanoyme, synhqws, isxyoyn panta. Den xreiazetai na ta ananewnoyme, idiaitera se toso krisimes periodoys. An, se teleytaia analysh, yparxei mia qetikh parembash ths Toyrkias apo ayth th synanthsh, pisteyw oti ayto qa htan to kyriotero. Alla, ayto den to gnwrizoyme. Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, qa hqela na sas pw oti yparxei mia perirreoysa atmosfaira peri ypobolhs enos neoy sxedioy. Gnwrizete oti tetoies syzhthseis, gia deytero sxedio, eixan ginei kai sto parelqon. To an qa yparjei h oxi trito sxedio, para th perirreoysa atmosfaira, qa to apofasisei telikws o G.G. toy OHE. Ara, emeis prepei na diapragmateyomaste swsta kai an yparjei kai trito anaqewrhmeno sxedio, qa topoqethqoyme analoga.

KARGOYDH: Poio einai to sxolio ths kybernhshs apo th stash ths EL.AS. sto prwto Atypo Symboylio ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias. Dhladh, eidame astynomikoys diadhlwtes, poy kata mia ektimhsh kinoyntai sta oria ths nomimothtas, na spane tis alysides twn astynomikwn poy profylassan toys xwroys toy Synedrioy apo toys diadhlwtes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa moy epitrecete, treis meres meta, na mh gyrisw pros ta pisw. Yparxei o synolikos apologismos gia to Atypo Symboylio sto Nayplio. As jekinhsoyme apo ta qemata oysias. Poio einai to qema oysias gia to Nayplio; To eidame, bebaiws, na grafetai se arketes efhmerides, alla den eixe thn analogh probolh apo ta thleoptika Mesa. Sto Nayplio egine mia poly sobarh syzhthsh gia thn anabaqmish twn politikwn apasxolhshs sthn Eyrwph kai thn anabaqmish twn systhmatwn koinwnikhs prostasias. Doqhkan kateyqynseis, oi opoies qa ajiopoihqoyn peraiterw apo ta typika Symboylia Ypoyrgwn Ergasias kai Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn. Prokaqoristhkan energeies. Htan ena apolyta petyxhmeno Symboylio me idiaitera sobares kai qetikes apofaseis. Ayto einai to prwto kai to kyrio poy prepei na mas apasxolhsei. To deytero htan h genikoterh eikona me tis diadhlwseis. Xairomai, dioti, plhn elaxistwn ejairesewn, yphrje mia ypeyqynh kai syntetagmenh stash twn politwn, oi opoioi diadhlwsan, me tis diafores koinwnikes organwseis. Dikaiwma toys einai na diadhlwsoyn kai na poyn ta synqhmata toys. Kai xairomai, giati pragmati akoloyqhsan mia ypeyqynh stash. Bebaiws, yphrjan kai elaxistes ejaireseis. Pisteyw, omws, oti prepei na doyme ton kanona, o opoios epibebaiwqhke.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an o Prwqypoyrgos einai eyxaristhmenos apo th leitoyrgia twn kommatikwn organwn, toy E.G., apo thn kybernhsh, akomh kai apo th leitoyrgia ths Boylhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: H erwthsh sas einai poly genikh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Gia na ginw pio safhs: Xqes, koryfaio stelexos toy PASOK, o k. Pagkalos, ekane aytes tis epishmanseis kai nomizw oti gnwrizei, isws kalytera apo mas, kai ta tektainomena sto komma, alla kai genikotera exei apoch...

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas ypenqymizw th xqesinh dhlwsh moy poy htan safhs.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti o k. Pagkalos, syxna-pykna, emfanizetai kai kanei kriseis, epikriseis kai probainei se mia seira parathrhsewn, tis opoies deixnei h kybernhsh oti den tis symmerizetai.

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka, xqes, epi toy qematos.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Poia einai h qesh, loipon, toy k. Pagkaloy mesa sto komma, me to opoio synexws fainetai na diafwnei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oso me afora, exw apanthsei apo xqes. Katalabainete oti, otan qelw na meinw se kati, qa meinw, oso ki an allazete -poly ejypna omologw- th morfh ths erwthshs sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh, se alles periptwseis, synhqizete na kanete dhlwseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: An hqela na kanw dhlwseis, qa tis eixa kanei. Topoqethqhka kai xqes kai menw se ayth th dhlwsh, poy isxyei apolytws.

MIXAHL: Gia ton k. Pagkalo, apanthsate. Qa hqela, omws, na moy peite, ean aytodialyetai to PASOK.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoios perimenei to PASOK na aytodialyqei kai exei tetoia elpida, qa breqei pro idiaitera dysarestwn ekplhjewn. To PASOK exei amesh sxesh me thn koinwnia, proxwra, analambanei tis prwtoboylies toy kai na eiste bebaioi oti qa proxwrhsei kai qa kerdisei tis epomenes ekloges. Ayto elpizoyme, pisteyoyme kai gi` ayto prospaqoyme.

MPOTWNHS: Einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo thn etoimothta toy kratikoy mhxanismoy sth xqesinh kai proxqesinh kakokairia; Giati, eidame stoys thleoptikoys dektes arketa parapona sympolitwn mas kai kindyneysan zwes, ejaitias kapoiwn kakotexniwn poy exoyn ginei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka kai xqes s` ayto, qa to pw kai shmera. Sebomai apolyta to problhma poy exei o kaqe poliths, otan mia fysikh katastrofh fqanei sto spiti toy. Orismenoi erxontai se apognwsh kai alloi blepoyn tis perioysies toys na xanontai. Einai logiko, ekeinh thn wra, na ekfrazontai me analogo tropo. Yphrje, omws, mia poly kalh kinhtopoihsh toy kratikoy mhxanismoy. Opoydhpote yphrje problhma, phge amesws h Pyrosbestikh kai to YPEXWDE. Yphrje mia stenh parakoloyqhsh apo th Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias kai kaneis den to arneitai ayto. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws paroysiasthkan problhmata, alla ayta ofeilontai kai se kinhseis topikoy xarakthra poy exoyn ginei h se mpazwma rematwn. To arneitai kaneis ayto se orismenes perioxes poy einai neodmhtes; Kai ayto den egine oyte xqes, oyte proxqes. Einai safes oti opoios den sebetai th fysh, ayth ton ekdikeitai.

TAKHS: O k. Lianhs shmera ekane kapoies dhlwseis, sxetika me to mats metajy PAOK-PAO kai afhse kapoioys ypainigmoys gia ton k. Filippidh, oti dexqhke ekbiasmo gia to qema ths metaforas opadwn toy PAOK apo th Qessalonikh edw. Symmerizeste aytes tis dhlwseis; Giati, kapoioi lene oti o k. Lianhs, me aytes tis dhlwseis, leitoyrghse ws "qessalonikarxhs".

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi dhlwseis toy k. Lianh poy akoysame thn Paraskeyh kai to Sabbato, den lene ayto, gia na eimaste safeis. En pash periptwsei, qelw na katasthsw safes oti oi armodies astynomikes arxes ekanan mia sygkekrimenh ekqesh kai eipan oti den mporoyn na analaboyn thn eyqynh gia ta tyxon problhmata poy qa yparjoyn, se periptwsh poy opadoi toy PAOK erqoyn sthn Aqhna gia na pane sto ghpedo. Ayto poy ekane h kybernhsh -kai poly swsta to ekane- htan na leitoyrghsei me gnwmona tis texnikes dynatothtes twn astynomikwn arxwn, idiaitera apo thn wra poy yphrje mia poly megalh kinhtopoihsh ths EL.AS. sto Nayplio. Orqotata, loipon, enhrghse h kybernhsh se ayto to zhthma, dioti, panw ap` ola, proexei h prostasia ths anqrwpinhs zwhs kai twn perioysiwn twn politwn.

TAKHS: Nai, alla o k. Lianhs afhse ypainigmoys gia ekbiasmo apo ton k. Filippidh. Ep` aytoy qelw na topoqethqeite.

PRWTOPAPA: Ekana poly safh topoqethsh. H telikh apofash ths kybernhshs, poy htan apolyta orqh sto qema ths eleyshs twn filaqlwn toy PAOK sthn Aqhna, eixe na kanei apokleistika me thn prostasia ths dhmosias tajhs, twn perioysiwn twn politwn, alla kai ths idias ths swmatikhs akeraiothtas twn filaqlwn. Me dedomeno oti h Astynomia den analambane thn eyqynh gia th mh yparjh epeisodiwn kai katastrofwn, h kybernhsh orqws leitoyrghse kai apagoreyse thn eleysh twn filaqlwn toy PAOK.

IWANNOY: Qa diabasate kai eseis shmera sta "NEA", kapoio apotelesma apo ereynes gia eji melh toy ELA, opoy ligo ws poly h efhmerida leei oti epikeintai syllhceis. Mporeite na mas epibebaiwsete ayto to dhmosieyma h na mas peite kati parapanw, an gnwrizete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oydepote proanaggellontai syllhceis apo to press room.

Sas eyxaristw.

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