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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete synedriase, shmera, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Eisagwgika o Prwqypoyrgos ekane orismenes parathrhseis, parembaseis gia meizonos shmasias qemata ejwterikhs kai eswterikhs politikhs. Analytika:

Gia to Kypriako: O Prwqypoyrgos ypenqymise oti stis 14 Ianoyarioy arxise o deyteros gyros twn apeyqeias synomiliwn, meta apo diakoph triwn mhnwn. Kata thn prwth synanthsh -opws grafthke kai ston Typo- h toyrkokypriakh pleyra ypebale sxedio gia basikh symfwnia me to opoio proballe tis gnwstes qeseis ths. H ellhnokypriakh pleyra -opws gnwrizete- epanefere to keimeno poy eixe kataqesei prin apo th Synodo ths Kopegxaghs, sto opoio diatypwnontai periorismena aithmata -skopima periorismena- gia th beltiwsh toy Sxedioy Anan. Kata th deyterh synanthsh o ekproswpos toy G.G. toy OHE Albaro nte Soto eixe zhthsei apo tis dyo pleyres na ypobaloyn shmeiwmata aithmatwn - beltiwsewn. H toyrkokypriakh pleyra, fanhke gia mia akomh fora, adiallakth se oles tis ptyxes toy Sxedioy (perioysies, edafiko, kyriarxia, asfaleia, epoikoi), enw h ellhnokypriakh pleyra exei epikentrwsei to aithma ths sthn epistrofh twn prosfygwn, ton periorismo twn apoklisewn apo to eyrwpaiko kekthmeno, to edafiko kai thn asfaleia. Kai ayth h synanthsh den odhghse se kamia proodo.

O Prwqypoyrgos ektima oti apo tis dyo aytes synanthseis prokyptei oti h piqanothta ejeyreshs symfwnias (dhladh, symptwshs apocewn ths ellhnokypriakhs kai toyrkokypriakhs pleyras) mexri tis 28 Febroyarioy einai ejairetika periorismenh. Katopin toytoy, qewreitai piqanon, (epeidh ta H.E. qa qeloyn na kleisoyn ton kyklo twn syzhthsewn aytwn mexri tis 28 Febroyarioy) na yparjei ena tropopoihmeno Sxedio (metajy toy prwtoy kai toy deyteroy) dhladh ena trio Sxedio Anan, sto opoio qa yparxoyn allages, oi opoies ektimatai oti qa einai mallon oriakes. Einai, loipon, endexomeno, eite na poyn ta H.E. oti oi synomilies ekleisan xwris apotelesma, eite na kleisei h diadikasia me mia teleytaia protash, prokeimenoy na eipwqei apo ton OHE oti prepei na yparjoyn apofaseis. Gi` ayto, tonise, o Prwqypoyrgos prepei na etoimastoyme kai gi` ayth thn periptwsh, ths ypobolhs, dhladh, enos neoy tropopoihmenoy-estw kai oriaka- Sxedioy apo ton OHE gia to opoio o G,G, toy Organismoy qa zhthsei thn telikh apofash. To erwthma poy tiqetai einai pote qa ypoblhqei ayth h nea protash. H mia periptwsh einai na ypoblhqei meta tis 23 Febroyarioy, otan ginei o deyteros gyros ths proedrikhs ekloghs. H allh piqanothta einai na ypoblhqei prin, dioti qa qelhsoyn ta H.E. na kleisoyn th syzhthsh prin apo thn eklogh sthn Kypro, etsi wste na katastei safes se oloys oti einai h teleytaia protash toy OHE.

O Prwqypoyrgos tonise oti emeis prepei, sto metajy, na kanoyme mia prospaqeia, wste to trito Sxedio Anan, an telikws yparjei, na einai kalytero kai apo to deytero. Den qa einai bebaia ayto poy qa qelame, alla mporei na ginoyn kapoies beltiwseis kai ekei akribws, stis peraiterw beltiwseis, katateinei h prospaqeia mas. Ayth einai mia doyleia poy prepei na kanoyme.

To deytero zhthma einai pws na diathrhsoyme th dynamikh kai sthn periptwsh poy h lysh den katastei efikth mexri tis 28 Febroyarioy. Ayto qa ejarthqei -tonise o Prwqypoyrgos- apo tis synomilies poy qa exoyme me ta H.E., giati qa prepei kai ta H.E. na mhn kleisoyn oristika stis 28 Febroyarioy to qema an den qelhsoyn na parateinoyn ep` aoriston thn olh diadikasia, dioti qa qewroyn oti qa odhghqei se adiejodo.

Antiqeta, loipon, me mia antilhch poy leei oti den qa yparjoyn ejelijeis sto Kypriako prepei na eimaste etoimoi kai na exoyme doylecei gi` ayto gia piqanes ejelijeis sto Kypriako mexri ta telh Febroyarioy.

Gia to Irak: Sas qymizw oti exei programmatistei syzhthsh gia to Irak, stis 27 Ianoyarioy, sto Symboylio Ejwterikwn Ypoqesewn ths E.E.. Einai gnwsto oti kai apo toys Galloys, kai apo toys Belgoys, kai apo toys Germanoys kai fysika apo emas, apo thn Ellhnikh Proedria, exei diatypwqei h apoch oti h E.E. prepei na exei eniaia grammh. Opws gnwrizete yparxoyn antidraseis apo thn pleyra ths Bretanias. O Prwqypoyrgos mas enhmerwse oti exei syzhthsei me to Bretano omologo toy k. Mpler gia to qema ayto kai oti toy eipe oti qa prospaqhsei kai aytos na diamorfwqei eniaia grammh, alla diathrei orismenes epifylajeis se sxesh me thn ektimhsh ths katastashs sth Mesh Anatolh kai to Irak, epifylajeis ws pros tis apoceis poy exoyn kai alla melh ths E.E..

Sth synexeia, o Prwqypoyrgos anefere oti piqanotata na yparjei h ekqesh toy k. Mplij kai twn empeirognwmonwn mexri tote -an kai, opws jerete, exei zhthsei kai allo xrono- kai sth synexeia o k. Mpoys exei programmatisei na apeyqynei mhnyma pros to amerikaniko eqnos kai fysika kapoia qesh qa parei. An kai oi elegktes exoyn dhlwsei oti piqano na poyn pws den mporoyn na sxhmatisoyn akomh gnwmh kai xreiazontai kairo, einai profanes oti oi HPA den qa dexqoyn na yparjei periqwrio pollwn mhnwn, dioti olh ayth h stratiwtikh proetoimasia poy exei ginei kai h entash poy exei dhmioyrghqei qa odhghsei se mia katastash anamonhs, h opoia qa thn ektonwsei. Xreiazetai, loipon mia allagh sthn katastash me bash thn opoia na peistoyn oi HPA oti apodexontai ayth thn allagh kai oti den xreiazetai polemos kai mia lysh tetoia poy na apokleiei ton polemo h na mhn odhgei se polemo. Poia qe einai h lysh ayth; Yparxei mia kinhtikothta ayth th stigmh, xwris na jeroyme ti telikws qa ginei. Kapoioi proteinoyn thn apoxwrhsh toy Santam, gia thn opoia fainetai oti yparxei mia entatikh prospaqeia apo th dieqnh Koinothta. Enallaktika proteinetai ena kaqestws elegxoy poly pio aysthro, to opoio qa diasfalizei bebaiothta gia to ti symbainei. Ayto, omws, mporei na mhn einai apodekto apo to idio to Irak. Ara, oi ejelijeis, ayth th stigmh, einai abebaies. H piqanothta toy polemoy yparxei panta, alla yparxei kai h piqanothta ths eirhnhs. Kai apo to telos toy mhna kai meta qa doyme tis ejelijeis poy qa yparxoyn, epikentrwnontas thn prosoxh mas stis dyo dynatothtes diejodoy, eirhnikhs dieyqethshs toy oloy problhmatos poy einai eite h allagh toy kaqestwtos, eite h dhmioyrgia enos plaisioy elegxoy gia ton afoplismo toy Irak.

Akoloyqws, o Prwqypoyrgos eqese ena allo qema poy apasxolei thn koinwnia mas aytes tis hmeres. Einai oi kataggelies gia ekbiasmoys apo MME h paragontes toys, se syndyasmo me to qema ths symperiforas podosfairikwn paragontwn. Tonise oti ayta ta dyo qemata dhmioyrgoyn mia arnhtikh eikona gia to hqos, tis ajies kai thn antilhch koinwnikhs eyqynhs poy epikratei sthn koinwnia mas. Ena megalo tmhma aporei, diamartyretai kai qewrei oti ola ayta ta fainomena einai arnhtika. Kai dikaiws to qewrei. Emeis, exoyme dhlwsei kai sto parelqon oti twra xreiazetai plhrhs ejygiansh. Oson afora to prwto qema, poy exei na kanei me th symperifora orismenwn paragontwn twn MME se sxesh me ekbiasmoys, alla kai to deytero, poy afora to podosfairo, xreiazetai ejygiansh xwris distagmoys kai kaqysterhseis. Xreiazetai mia synexhs prospaqeia gia na apomonwsoyme kai na ejaleicoyme tis esties apajiwshs twn kanonwn kai twn arxwn poy ofeiloyn na diepoyn thn koinwnia mas. Den einai epitrepth dikh mas adiaforia. Kaneis den mporei, oyte einai dynato na diafwnei s` ayto. Den mporei na yparxoyn symbibasmoi, talanteyseis se tetoia qemata. Kai anaferqhke s` ayto o Prwqypoyrgos, dioti, opws eipe, akoyse syzhthseis gia to an einai swsto, ayta ta qemata poy exoyn arnhtikes epiptwseis, na pairnoyn tetoies kateyqynseis. Tonise oti den dexetai tetoies apoceis, dioti aytes ejyphretoyn kapoia politikh taktikh, alla emeis den dexomaste na yparxoyn tetoia fainomena, giati einai fainomena synallaghs, ekbiasmwn, trampoykismwn kai xarakthrizoyn enan politiko kai koinwniko xwro, poy den einai o dikos mas, oyte kai o xwros poy kineitai h terastia pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy. Kai an doyme, synexise o Prwqypoyrgos, toys prwtagwnistes kai toys tropoys symperiforas, mporei poly eykola na symperanoyme oti o koinwnikos xwros poy anexetai kai kalliergei tetoia fainomena einai ekeinos poy anedeije kai sthrije adiamartyrhta thn 7xronh diktatoria sth xwra kai thn katarghsh ths dhmokratias. Oloi aytoi, einai antiqetoi me mia koinwnia dikaiosynhs, allhleggyhs kai dhmioyrgias. Gi` ayto kai emeis eimaste energa apenanti toys. Exei analabei h Dikaiosynh na jekaqarisei orismena pragmata. Einai dikh ths apostolh, alla kai h kybernhsh, xwris kanena distagmo, prepei na proxwrhsei taxytata sthn ejaleich olwn aytwn twn fainomenwn.

Epishs, o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke ston programmatismo ths doyleias mas gia to epomeno ejamhno. (To sxetiko sxedio einai sth diaqesh sas). Na sas enhmerwsw oti ayto den einai to sxedio toy synolikoy programmatismoy ths politikhs mas. Anaferomaste sto a@ ejamhno toy 2003, giati se ayto anaferqhke kai o Prwqypoyrgo sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, alla orizontas panta ths politikhs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy einai h anoijh toy 2004. H krisimh hmeromhnia gia mas einai h hmeromhnia ths eklogikhs anametrhshs, poy qa einai thn Anoijh toy 2004.

Opws gnwrizete, h kybernhsh to a@ ejamhno toy 2003, parallhla me thn askhsh ths Proedrias kai toys stoxoys poy epidiwkei, prowqei kai to programma mas, to "Ellada 2004" kai tis politikes poy sto endiameso diasthma exoyn yioqethqei. Apo to synolo toy kybernhtikoy sxediasmoy, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio katelhje, meta apo syzhthsh, se 12 ameses kai kentrikes proteraiothtes, me stoxo thn oloklhrwsh toys prin h mexri to telos toy a@ ejamhnoy toy 2003. Ayto den shmainei, bebaiws, oti den qa oloklhrwqoyn kai alles politikes, efoson wrimasoyn mesa sto a@ ejamhno kai den qa prowqhqoyn kai oi alles meizones politikes poy trexoyn, omws, me xroniko orizonta, meta to a@ ejamhno toy 2003. Ta qemata sta opoia anaferomaste shmera, einai ayta poy qa oloklhrwqoyn kai qa mporei na ta dei o poliths kai h ellhnikh koinwnia, mexri to telos toy a@ ejamhnoy toy 2003. Kai einai qemata, bebaiws, poy aforoyn thn poreia ths xwras kai ton polith.

Yparxoyn, omws, kai alla qemata, poy den exoyme symperilabei, eite dioti einai genikotera -kai oytws h allws proxwroyn mexri th lhjh ths kybernhtikhs qhteias- eite dioti den mporoyme na problecoyme thn wrimansh toys mesa sto a@ ejamhno toy 2003, eite dioti h ejelijh toys den ejartatai apo mas. Kai anaferw, gia paradeigma, th diadikasia pwlhshs ths Olympiakhs, poy den exei perilhfqei, dioti enw exei proxwrhsei o diagwnismos kai ajiologoyntai oi prosfores, den gnwrizoyme an aytes oi prosfores qewrhqei oti plhroyn ta krithria kai oti mporei na dwsoyn mia pragmatikh lysh, opws akribws apaiteitai.

Ayta poy perilambanontai sto sxedio ayto, einai ayta poy qa ginoyn kai qa mporeite na mas krinete gi` ayta, mexri to telos toy a@ ejamhnoy toy 2003.

Kleinontas thn paroysiash toy programmatismoy toy a@ ejamhnoy, o Prwqypoyrgos tonise: "Blepete, opws kai egw, thn prospaqeia sykofanthshs kai skandalologias. Pisteyw oti apo th mia meria prepei na apantame amesws, alla h pio peistikh apanthsh einai panta to yparkto ergo. Kai to yparkto ergo einai ekeino to opoio anairei to eikoniko. Den einai periergo oti yparxei ayth h ejarsh kritikhs apo th N.D., oson afora ta erga, apo th stigmh poy arxise na leitoyrgei h perimetrikh ths Patras, th stigmh poy egine h episkech sto Rio, se ayto poy palia h N.D. apokaloyse "mia maketa". Den einai pia maketa, alla apodeixqhke oti einai ena yparkto ergo, to opoio prokeitai na oloklhrwqei to 2004 kai malista prin apo to xronodiagramma.

To ergo mas anairei kai akyrwnei olh ayth thn prospaqeia dysfhmishs kai gi` ayto prepei na proballoyme o,ti kanoyme kai na apantame stis paraloges aitiaseis ths antipoliteyshs. H epityxia mas qa ejarthqei apo th doyleia mas, apo thn peistikothta mas kai bebaia apo thn apotelesmatikothta poy qa exoyme. Epanalambanw, tonise o Prwqypoyrgos, oti oi draseis aytes prokyptoyn apo tis dikes sas protaseis kai einai stoxoi poy prepei na epiteyxqoyn kai na doylecoyme gi` aytoys kata proteraiothta".

O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke kai sth doyleia poy ginetai apo thn Epitroph kommatos kai kybernhshs, poy exei systaqei, me th symmetoxh toy k. Manika kai melwn toy E.G., opws o k. Neonakhs k.a. Se ayth, ajiologeitai h poreia twn ergwn se kaqe Nomo, diapistwnontai ta problhmata kai kinhtopoioyntai oi aparaithtes dynameis, prokeimenoy ta problhmata ayta na kalyfqoyn, me synanthseis boyleytwn, kommatikwn kai kybernhtikwn stelexwn.

Meta to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, synedriase to KYSEA, to opoio omofwna khryje ws agono, to diagwnismo gia thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Oi logoi poy khryxqhke agonos o diagwnismos, htan treis:

To kostos twn telikwn prosforwn apo tis etairies htan poly megalytero apo ayto poy eixe proypologistei, apo to anwtato plafon poy eixe teqei. Epomenws, den htan dynato na ginei apodekth kapoia prosfora kai na yparjei symfwnia.

H Epitroph Ajiologhshs den katelhje se qetika symperasmata, kyriws dioti den katateqhkan apo tis etairies analytika stoixeia, opws eixe zhthqei.

O kindynos, poy yphrxe, makrwn nomikwn diadikasiwn, dioti to Nomiko Symboylio toy kratoys eixe pei oti endeiknytai, prin thn apofash, na jekaqaristei to qema enstasewn, dhlwsewn kai prosfygwn, poy qa apaitoyse xronikh periodo arketwn mhnwn.

Gia aytoys toys logoys, alla kyriws gia logoys prostasias toy dhmosioy symferontos -kai ennow to oikonomiko meros toy qematos- o diagwnismos khryxqhke omofwna apo to KYSEA ws agonos. Anateqhke se Epitroph -sthn opoia symmetexoyn ola ta endiaferomena ypoyrgeia, to Nomiko Symboylio toy kratoys kai h Organwtikh Epitroph "Aqhna 2004"- na proxwrhsei, symfwna me to qesmiko plaisio poy yparxei gia tis promhqeies toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas se parallhles diapragmateyseis me tis endiaferomenes etairies, prokeimenoy, mesa se xroniko diasthma dyo h triwn ebdomadwn, na mporesoyme na petyxoyme oristikh symfwnia gia to ergo ths asfaleias twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, ypo ton oro oti to kostos qa einai sthn kateyqynsh poy eixe arxikws prosdioristei apo thn kybernhsh.

Ayta, oson afora th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

Qa hqela na anaferqw se dyo akomh qemata.

To prwto afora tis shmerines anafores pros to proswpo moy apo ton k. Paylopoylo. O k. Paylopoylos arnhqhke oti eipe, xqes sto radiofwniko staqmo SKAI, kapoia pragmata sta opoia anaferqhka me xqesinh dhlwsh moy. Ws gnwston, o k. Roysopoylos eixe pei xqes oti qa doqoyn onomata kai dieyqynseis enexomenwn gia diafqora. O k. Paylopoylos tonise sto radiofwniko staqmo SKAI oti ayto den einai swsto. To sxoliasa, zhtwntas toys na apofasisoyn epiteloys ti qa kanoyn kai pera apo to na "adeiazei" o enas ton allon, na mas poyn, ean telikws exoyn onomata poia einai, wste na lamcei h alhqeia. O k. Paylopoylos mas kathgorhse shmera oti diastreblwnoyme thn alhqeia. Epeidh, omws, emeis den diastreblwnoyme thn alhqeia, qa diabasw ti akribws eipe o k. Paylopoylos. Sto erwthma toy dhmosiografoy k. Kominh "qeloyme onomata kai dieyqynseis gia na ginete peistikoi" -ton parepempe stis dhlwseis toy k. Roysopoyloy- apanthse epi lejei: "Isa-isa, qa ginoyme anajiopistoi an to kanoyme ayto to pragma, dioti qa pesei olo to endiaferon". Katalabainete, loipon, oti o k. Paylopoylos, gia mia akomh fora, syllambanetai na peftei se antifash. Kai mias antifasews myries epontai. Lypamai para poly gi` ayto poy kanei, alla ektiqetai anepanorqwta. Htan protimotero na siwphsei. Se aytes tis periptwseis "kreitton toy lalein esti to sigan". Ton kalw na analabei tis eyqynes toy.

To deytero afora thn episkech toy k. Karamanlh ston OAED. An kai yparxoyn oi dhlwseis toy k. Reppa, krinw skopimo na tonisw oti o k. Karamanlhs, gia mia akomh fora, epese qyma twn epikoinwniologwn toy. Opws fainetai, menei aixmalwtos sth gnwsth politikh toy laikismoy. Anti na endiaferetai kai na topoqeteitai sthn oysia twn problhmatwn, xrhsimopoiei meizona problhmata ths ellhnikhs koinwnias gia na kanei epikoinwniaka "trik". Lypoymaste para poly gia thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kai thn taktikh ths, dioti etsi apokalyptontai ston ellhniko lao, poly pio kaqara, oi adynamies, ta adiejoda kai oi aneparkeies ths N.D.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis.

ANTYPAS: An katalaba kala, o k. Shmiths eipe sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio "gia na mh nomizoyn orismenoi oti h doyleia mas kleinei to 2003, o orizontas toy kybernhtikoy ergoy einai h anoijh toy 2004";

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, kata th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, eipe oti oi ekloges -o orizontas mas pros ayth thn kateyqynsh- qa pragmatopoihqoyn thn anoijh toy 2004.

ANTYPAS: Yparxei desmeysh ths kybernhshs oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 2004;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi ekloges qa ginoyn thn anoijh toy 2004.

ANTYPAS: Dhladh, me bash ayto to programma, me to opoio qa sas krinoyme sto telos toy ejamhnoy, opws eipate, den yparxei periptwsh na teqei kai enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn megala zhthmata poy, opws tonisame, diapernoyn to ejamhno kai den ta exoyme symperilabei. Ayto den shmainei oti den qa prowqhqoyn mesa sto ejamhno. Ara, den qa teqei ayto sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy, dioti qa einai o apologismos poy qa ginei ton Ioylio.

ANTYPAS: Ta megala qemata mporei na diapernoyn kai ton orizonta toy 2004.

PRWTOPAPAS: Polla qemata qa exoyn epilyqei apo prin. Gia na ginei apolytws katanohto kai na stamathsei h filologia, qelw na tonisw, gia mia akomh fora, oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 2004.

KARGOYDH: Kapoy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos oti oi ekbiasmoi poy ekporeyontai apo paragontes twn MME, alla kai podosfairikoys paragontes exoyn emplokh me toys xwroys poy anedeijan kai sthrijan th diktatoria. Mporeite na eiste pio safhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: To keimeno apo mono toy einai safes.

KARGOYDH: Exete kapoioys anqrwpoys kata noy, k. Ypoyrge.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti to keimeno einai safes kai sas parapempw se ayto.

KALARITHSS: Mia dieykrinish: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti ean den telesforhsei h prospaqeia toy OHE, qa koitajoyme na diathrhsoyme th dynamikh. Eipe me poio tropo mporei na ginei ayto; Eipe gia nea prwtoboylia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me prooptikh synexishs twn diapragmateysewn kai meta tis 28 Febroyarioy, Bebaiws, diathrhse thn epifylajh, opws parathrhsate, ean dexqei kati tetoio o OHE.

ANTYPAS: Yparxei proswpo gia th diafqora kai toys ekbiasmoys gia thn kybernhsh, dhladh; Milate anwnymws, aproswpa. Ginontai ekbiasmoi apo paragontes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsa gia ton politiko kai koinwniko xwro, poy anexetai kai kalliergei tetoia fainomena.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Nai, alla dinei kai entolh, leei, na proxwrhsoyme taxytera, na patajoyme xwris distagmo...

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ara, yparxoyn proswpa.

PRWTOPAPAS: O ellhnikos laos blepei na grafontai kai na anaferontai, ayth thn periodo, polla peri ekbiasmwn, opws, epishs, parakoloyqei thn katastash poy epikratei se orismenoys aqlhtikoys xwroys, opws ayto toy podosfairoy. Epishs, ginetai mia genikoterh syzhthsh kai gia alla qemata. Anaferw ta pragmata me to onoma toys. Opws exw pei, epixeireitai apo orismenoys na dhmioyrghqei enas kambas, oti dhqen ola ayta ofeilontai sthn kybernhtikh politikh h yparxoyn genikeymena fainomena shchs kai diafqoras kai oti, en pash periptwsei, tipota den yparxei kai tipota den einai orqio. Den eipame oti den yparxoyn problhmata. Yparxoyn kai me baqies rizes kai einai safes poies einai aytes oi rizes. Kai problhmata ekbiasmwn yparxoyn, ap@ o,ti fainetai, kai problhmata sto xwro toy podosfairoy yparxoyn, kai problhmata qylakwn diafqoras yparxoyn. To qema einai ean apenanti se ayth thn katastash yparxei mia politikh, poy aposkopei kai einai staqera prosanatolismenh sthn antimetwpish toys. H kybernhtikh politikh einai staqera prosanatolismenh sthn ejygiansh. To maxairi qa fqasei sto kokalo. H apofasistikothta mas gia antimetwpish kai malista to taxytero aytwn twn problhmatwn einai dedomenh. Yparxei anagkh syspeirwshs olwn mas -oswn apo emas pragmatika endiaferontai gia thn poreia ayths ths xwras kai ayths ths koinwnias- sthn idia kateyqynsh. Ean, apo kei kai pera, h ND aresketai se ayth thn katastash kai th xrhsimopoiei gia kommatiko ofelos, na eiste bebaioi oti qa fqasei se adiejodo kai qa apokalycoyme ayto to adiejodo. Xreiazetai na synergastoyme oloi gia na antimetwpisoyme ta problhmata poy yparxoyn. Ayto kanoyme kai zhtoyme na ginei grhgora kai apotelesmatika, me thn energopoihsh olhs ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, olwn twn energwn dynamewn ths.

MPOTWNHS: Polla dhmosieymata anaferontai se krish toy ``AQHNA-2004'' me thn kybernhsh. Eipwqhke kati sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio; Poia einai h sxesh ths kas Aggelopoyloy me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas den syzhthqhke tipota gia to qema ayto sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, opws den eipwqhke tipota sxetika me to Dioikhth toy IKA k. Nektario, giati akoysa na kykloforoyn diafores fhmes. Den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta oi fhmes aytes. Oson afora tis sxeseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs me thn Proedro ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs toy ``AQHNA-2004'', ka Aggelopoyloy, einai ejairetikes. Einai stenes sxeseis synergasias. Sxetika me to qema toy proypologismoy twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn kai th xrhmatodothsh twn drasthriothtwn ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs kai twn olympiakwn prosarmogwn, yparxei h xqesinh kybernhtikh anakoinwsh, thn opoia sas paroysiase o yfypoyrgos Typoy Thlemaxos Xythrhs, sthn opoia sas parapempw. Ayta einai lymena qemata.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: H xqesinh anakoinwsh toy k. Xythrh, thn opoia epikaleisqe, leei oti ean xreiazontai perissotera xrhmata, ayta qa eggrafoyn ston proypologismo toy ``AQHNA-2004''. Apo thn ereyna poy exei kanei h kybernhsh me to ``2004'' xreiazontai perissotera xrhmata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporw na apanthsw ayth th stigmh; Xqes egine mia synedriash, ekdoqhke mia anakoinwsh poy leei safws oti tyxon prosqetes anagkes, poy aforoyn tis olympiakes ypodomes h promhqeies pragmatwn poy qa parameinoyn en xrhsei kai meta toys agwnes, qa kalyfqoyn apo to kratos, sta oria toy kratikoy proypologismoy. Opoy, loipon, apodeiknyetai oti yparxei anagkh kai oti oi dapanes aytes synadoyn me tis proypoqeseis poy exei qesei h kybernhsh, aytes qa kalyptontai.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh den jypnhse jafnika h kybernhsh kai h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph kai eipe, opoy yparxoyn anagkes, yparxei sxetiko aithma apo ton ``2004''; Yparxei kapoia diafwnia, ws pros to poios qa kanei ta erga, ti yparxei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kamia diafwnia, ws pros to poios qa kanei ta erga. To qema exei lyqei edw kai polla xronia. Tiqetai mia seira apo zhthmata. Kapoia stigmh o Prwqypoyrgos krinei skopimo na sygkalesei thn armodia epitroph, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisei ta opoia problhmata exoyn prokycei kai na kaqorisei to plaisio leitoyrgias. Yparxei se ejelijh mia terastia olympiakh proetoimasia, ena terastio ergo poy synteleitai, Kata kairoys ejetazetai o proypologismos toy, h poreia twn oikonomikwn kai kaqorizontai oi proypoqeseis xrhmatodothshs. Ayto einai apolyta fysiologiko, gia mia ygiws leitoyrgoysa kybernhsh, opws h dikh mas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Sygnwmh ean epimenw ki an kanw kataxrhsh. Otan lete oti diatypwnontai zhthmata, apo poion diatypwnontai; Kai edw den einai mia ygihs leitoyrgia, edw milame gia 250 dis draxmes, mia mayrh trypa, thn opoia kaneis den apodexetai oti yparxei. Synedriazei oloklhrh Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia mia ``mayrh trypa'', thn opoia den apodexetai kaneis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat arxas, den yparxei synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs gia ``trypes'' pantos eidoys. Ayto na to jekaqarisw. Ekeino poy apasxolei th synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs einai ta oikonomika twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, giati einai xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy. Teqhkan oroi kai proypoqeseis gia thn kalych proypologismwn. Kai malista shmera yparxoyn anafores apo armodioys yfypoyrgoys, metajy twn opoiwn kai toy k. Flwridh, gyrw apo ayto to qema kai oi opoies synadoyn plhrws me th sxetikh xqesinh kybernhtikh anakoinwsh. Den katalabainw giati dhmioyrgoyme problhma ekei poy den yparxei. Den yparxei problhma. Einai logiko se mia olympiakh proetoimasia na yparxoyn synedriaseis epitropwn poy ejetazoyn thn poreia toy kostoys twn ergwn kai lambanoyn metra.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ayto poy lete eseis einai allo kai allo pragma einai h ayjhsh toy proypologismoy toy ``AQHNA- 2004''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipame oti h ayjhsh toy proypologismoy toy ``AQHNA 2004'', symfwna me thn apofash, qa ginei gia orismenes promhqeies, gia orismena erga poy qa parameinoyn en xrhsei meta thn telesh twn Agwnwn. Kai ayta qa kalyfqoyn me ayjhsh toy proypologismoy toy ``AQHNA-2004''. Ara, qa proskomizontai ta stoixeia poy apodeiknyoyn thn anagkaiothta ayths ths dapanhs, sth synexeia, h dapanh ayth qa egkrinetai apo thn kybernhsh kai qa kalyptetai to sxetiko kondyli. Sthn anakoinwsh anaferetai safws gia poia erga prokeitai. Kai gia na mhn exete amfibolies, ej isoy safes einai oti einai ejairetikes oi sxeseis -sxeseis poly kalhs synergasias- ths kas Aggelopoyloy kai ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai toys armodioys kybernhtikoys paragontes.

SOYRMELIDHS: Gia thn asfaleia twn O.A. yparxei xronikos prosdiorismos apo to KYSEA;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti yparxei ena plaisio dyo-triwn ebdomadwn.

SOYRMELIDHS: Kai ena deytero gia th laqrometanasteysh, den syzhthqhke; Qa syzhthqei tis epomenes meres;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa syzhthqei se epomenh synedriash.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eipate gia to Kypriako, oti anamenoyme ena trito sxedio, endexomenws kalytero apo ta dyo prohgoymena.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me oriakes beltiwseis.

KALARITHS: O k. Ntenktas den exei dexqei mexri twra dyo sxedia, ta opoia den einai kai kala gia thn ellhnikh pleyra. Ti kanei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh na pisteyei oti o k. Anan qa erqei me ena sxedio akoma kalytero gia thn ellhnikh pleyra kai qa to dexqei o Ntenktas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa me oriakes beltiwseis.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Afoy den exei dexqei ta dyo prohgoymena o Ntenktas, giati na dexqei twra ena allo me beltiwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Dioti oi beltiwseis sto sxedio, mporei na aforoyn kai zhthmata isorropias poy na endiaferoyn kai thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra. Mporei kati na mh mas enoxlei, alla parallhla, na mporei na ikanopoihsei kai thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra. Gi ayto ginetai kai h diapragmateysh. Diapragmateysh shmainei oti bazw orismena qemata sto trapezi, ta syzhtw me thn allh pleyra kai kapoy katalhgw. Ayth einai h ennoia ths diapragmateyshs. Kai deyteron, ekeino poy tonisa -kai isws na mhn to prosejate- einai oti prokeitai gia to teliko sxedio toy OHE. Epanalambanw oti ayto einai ypoqesh ergasias. Alla to tonisame gia na gnwrizoyme ti qa antimetwpisoyme sto mellon. Den apokleietai o OHE na zhthsei mia telikh apanthsh se ena sxedio toy. Kai h telikh apanthsh, opws katalabainete, exei to diko ths politiko baros.

GEROPOYLOS: Epeidh, prohgoymenws, apokleisate to endexomeno na ginoyn ekloges nwritera apo thn Anoijh toy 2004, mhpws ayto to programma, to sxedio twn 12 proteraiothtwn-stoxwn einai amesa ylopoihsimo entos toy prwtoy ejamhnoy toy 2003, exei sxesh me thn krish twn ypoyrgwn sto telos toy prwtoy ejamhnoy toy 2003 apo ton Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den exei sxesh me tetoia zhthmata. Exei na kanei me thn krish apo sas ths kybernhshs se mia seira zhthmata. Epeidh, polles fores ginontai anafores oti h kybernhsh se mia seira apo qemata leitoyrgei etsi h alliws, en pash periptwsei aytes oi anafores exoyn kritiko xarakthra, emeis sas leme kaqara oti mexri to telos toy ejamhnoy toy 2003 qa exoyme oloklhrwsei ayta poy anagrafontai se ayto to keimeno. Ayta qa einai pragmatikothta. Qa mporei na ta dei o poliths kai qa mas krinete gi` ayto. Ayto den shmainei oti kai alla zhthmata den qa proxwrhsoyn h den qa lyqoyn. Gia paradeigma yparxoyn meizona qemata, ta opoia hdh prowqoyntai, briskontai se dialogo, metarryqmiseis poy ejelissontai h qemata gia ta opoia isws h yparjh kai allwn parametrwn -anefera xarakthristika to qema ths Olympiakhs- mas empodizei na entajoyme sto sxedio ayto. Einai ena meros toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Koitame ton polith sta matia kai toy leme oti sto telos toy ejamhnoy qa exei ginei prajh.

IWANNOY: O synadelfos sas rwthse kati allo: An desmeyeste oti den qa ginei anasxhmatismos sto telos toy ejamhnoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Hmoyn safhs. Den yparxei tetoio qema. Eipa oti krinetai to synolo ths kybernhshs apo thn efarmogh aytoy toy ergoy. Einai ena stoixhma gia oloys mas. Eimaste ikanoi na feroyme se peras ayto to sygkekrimeno ergo, koitwntas ton ellhniko lao sta matia. Kai ayto shmainei oti dexomaste thn proklhsh, anakoinwnoyme toys stoxoys mas kai qa kriqoyme gi` ayto kai apo sas kai apo to lao.

BITALHS: Egw qa gyrisw pali sto Kypriako, giati exw mia aporia. Prwton, ektimhqhke an einai skopimo na ypoblhqei ena neo anaqewrhmeno isws kai beltiwmeno Sxedio Anan se proeklogikh periodo; Kai deyteron, @

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai diko mas qema ayto. Mporei na ginei ean to ektimhsei o OHE.

BITALHS: An ginei telika sto deytero gyro, poios diapragmateyetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws gnwrizete mexri thn hmeromhnia poy problepei to kypriako Syntagma yparxei kybernhsh. Ayta einai lymena qemata. Eidate oti krathsame -symfwna me tis dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy- kai ta dyo endexomena. Dhladh, mporei na ginei prin h meta. Se kaqe periptwsh as mhn anaparagoyme lymena zhthmata.

IWANNOY: Eipate gia tis sxeseis ths kybernhshs me to 2004. Qa qelame to sxolio sas gia to an yparxoyn spatales sto 2004, dedomenoy oti ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs xqes eipe xarakthristika oti ena tajidi toy Prwqypoyrgoy kostizei ligotero apo o,ti ena ths kyrias Aggelopoyloy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw kanenan ypoyrgo na eipe kati tetoio. Eipa oti yparxei stenh sxesh kai sxesh synergasias.

Sas eyxaristw.

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