Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-01-22

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Stis 10 to prwi, pragmatopoihqhke, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, sto Megaro Majimoy, syskech me qema thn olympiakh proetoimasia kai ton olympiako proypologismo. Exete, hdh, tis dhlwseis toy yfypoyrgoy Typoy Thlemaxoy Xythrh. H synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Paideias Petro Eyqymioy, metateqhke gia thn Paraskeyh, stis 10.30 to prwi.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Yparxei mia anabolh. O diagwnismos gia thn asfaleia toy 2004 khryxqhke agonos. Gia poio logo gnwrizete; Mhpws yparxei osmh skandaloy edw;

PRWTOPAPAS: O diagwnismos khryxqhke agonos gia logoys dhmosioy symferontos. To Dhmosio eixe qesei, ws plafon kostoys gia thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, ena poso, to opoio den symfwnoyse me thn telikh prosfora poy egine apo tis etaireies. Ektimhse, loipon, h kybernhsh oti prepei na khryjei agono to diagwnismo, wste na anazhthsei tropoys gia pio symferoyses oikonomika lyseis. Na sas qymisw oti oles oi diadikasies toy diagwnismoy eginan me pisth thrhsh ths nomoqesias, toy yparxontos nomikoy plaisioy. Yphrje kai eidikh Diypoyrgikh Epitroph, h opoia parakoloyqoyse tis ejelijeis kai tis sxetikes diadikasies. Yphrje mia diadikasia texnikwn ajiologhsewn kai oikonomikwn prosforwn poy epidiwkei to kalytero dynato gia to ellhniko Dhmosio. Ektimhqhke, omws, apo toys armodioys kybernhtikoys paragontes oti h telikh ejelijh den einai symfwnh me toys oroys kai tis oikonomikes prodiagrafes poy eixan teqei apo thn arxh. Ara, gia logoys dhmosioy symferontos, eprepe na khryxqei agonos o diagwnismos kai na anazhthqoyn prosforoteres lyseis.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Twra poia diadikasia qa akoloyqhqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi diadikasies poy problepontai apo to yparxon qesmiko plaisio toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Ayto shmainei oti den qa thrhqei kai to xronodiagramma, giati h kybernhsh elege oti ayto to qema qa kleisei me apofash mexri telos toy mhnos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me thn ennoia oti qa katelhge o diagwnismos. Alla, oi diagwnismoi den katalhgoyn oloi, kat` anagkh, se qetiko apotelesma. Yparxoyn kai oi diagwnismoi poy gia logoys prostasias toy dhmosioy symferontos khryssontai agonoi.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Twra, ti xronodiagramma yparxei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti shmera prokeitai na synedriasoyn oi armodies epitropes, epomenws, as perimenoyme tis anakoinwseis toys. Se kaqe periptwsh, qa eimaste etoimoi sthn wra mas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa yparjei Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia to qema ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei Diypoyrgikh Epitroph, h opoia asxoleitai. Qa asxoleito to KYSEA, ean yphrxe qetikh protash. Ean, dhladh, yphrxe katalhjh toy diagwnismoy me mia qetikh protash, h telikh apofash qa ejetazotan apo to KYSEA. Mono to KYSEA qa mporoyse na labei apofash. Apo th stigmh poy den katelhje o diagwnismos, prepei na doyme ti qa kanoyme sth synexeia. Kai ayto qa ginei apo ta entetalmena organa, ta armodia ypoyrgeia, th Diypoyrgikh Epitroph.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Giati kriqhke agonos o diagwnismos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia to politiko meros, apanthsa. Apo kei kai pera, prepei na syzhthsoyme epi makron ta stoixeia twn oikonomikwn prosforwn, tis diadikasies poy thrhqhkan k.o.k. Qa enhmerwqeite gi` ayta ta diadikastika qemata apo toys armodioys.

KARGOYDH: O Amerikanos Proedros xarakthrise toys elegxoys twn epiqewrhtwn ws, deyterhs kathgorias, kinhmatografiko ergo, to opoio den briskei skopimo na parakoloyqhsei. Taytoxrona, apo rwsikes phges, opws akoyme apo ta MME, ektimatai oti peri ta mesa Febroyarioy qa jekinhsei h amerikanikh epiqesh sto Irak. Oi dikes sas plhrofories ws proedreyoysas xwras einai poia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Plhrofories yparxoyn kai polles kai antifatikes kai diistamenes metajy toys. Alla den mporoyme na kanoyme politikh me plhrofories. H dikh mas politikh einai safhs. Ekdhlwqhke kai me thn proxqesinh prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn Giwrgoy Papandreoy poy synocizetai sth frash: oti o polemos den einai ek twn pragmatwn aparaithtos, oti mporei na apofeyxqei. Yparxoyn kai eirhnikoi tropoi epilyshs twn diaforwn kai xreiazetai stenh parakoloyqhsh apo th dieqnh Koinothta, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE. Se ayth th grammh eimaste shmera kai, ws proedreyontes ths E.E., anaptyssoyme prwtoboylies, kai malista shmantikes prwtoboylies, pros ayth thn kateyqynsh dia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Symfwnei h E.E. me ayth th qesh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H E.E. qa klhqei na apofasisei telikws, otan exoyme ola ta stoixeia sta xeria mas. Anaptyxqhkan kapoies prwtes prwtoboylies, qa yparjoyn oi ekqeseis twn empeirognwmonwn kai sas qymizw tis anafores toy k. Mplij. Apo ekei kai pera, otan doyme aytes tis ekqeseis, einai safes pws qa epidiwjoyme mia sygklinoysa stash twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E., poy einai melh toy S.A. toy OHE. Qa yparjoyn sxetikes diaboyleyseis. To ti telikws qa ginei einai agnwsto. Qa katablhqei, omws, prospaqeia apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, ws Proedria, kai bebaiws qa yparjoyn kai genikoteres syzhthseis sthn E.E. gia th stash poy qa krathsei h Enwsh stis ejelijeis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Poia qa einai h stash ths E.E. apenanti sth M. Bretania, h opoia, xwris na yparxei apofash ths E.E., exei hdh dexqei kai stelnei strateymata;

PRWTOPAPAS: As mhn protrexoyme. Xreiazontai poly prosektikes kinhseis. H Ellhnikh Proedria qa einai paroysa kai qa parembei, prokeimenoy na diamorfwqei, kata to dynato, eniaia stash ths E.E.. Einai h wra na apodeijei h Eyrwph oti mporei na exei eniaia stash se ayto to shmantiko zhthma kai qa kriqei gi` ayto. H Ellhnikh Proedria qa kanei to kaqhkon ths. Apo ekei kai pera, o kaqenas qa kriqei gia th stash toy.

BITALHS: Lete oti qa yparjoyn diaboyleyseis kai me ta melh ths E.E. sto S.A., apo thn pleyra ths Ellhnikhs Proedrias. Jekaqarisan, omws, kai h Germania kai h Gallia th qesh toys, xqes, oti akomh kai me deytero chfisma -leei eidika h Germania- den metexoyme se ayth th diadikasia. Kai o Gallos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, paromoia qesh phre.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekeino poy qelw na epishmanw einai oti anaptyssoyme prwtoboylies kai taytoxrona perimenoyme kai to porisma twn elegktikwn arxwn toy OHE. Apo ayto qa ejagoyme ta telika symperasmata mas. Qelw na jekaqarisw to ejhs: Katalabainoyme oti se aytes tis periptwseis yparxoyn kai oi eqnikes politikes kai ta eqnika symferonta, yparxei kai h stash toy kaqe kratoys-meloys kai idiaitera twn megalwn. Prepei na syneidhtopoihsoyme oloi oti krinetai kai h E.E. s` ayth th megalh ypoqesh. Ekeino poy emeis qeloyme einai, h E.E. na mporei na anaptyjei koines prwtoboylies mesa sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy S.A.. Alla koines prwtoboylies, ws Enwsh. Den krybomaste pisw apo to daxtylo mas. Gnwrizoyme tis dyskolies poy yparxoyn, alla emeis katabaloyme prospaqeies.

BITALHS: Epeidh kai apo th synanthsh poy eixe o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, edw sthn Aqhna, me ton epikefalhs twn epiqewrhtwn toy OHE diafanhke kai apo tis dhlwseis toy oti qeloyme na yparjei anesh xronoy stoys epiqewrhtes, den einai antifatiko apo thn pleyra toy Proedroy Mpoys h dhlwsh toy h kai an qelete epitimhtikh pros toys epiqewrhtes toy OHE "oti exoyme janadei ayto to ergo se epanalhch kai den qa to janadoyme se epanalhch";

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimaste staqera prosanatolismenoi sto "ergo" toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Yparxoyn oi apofaseis toy S.A. toy OHE, oi opoies mas kalyptoyn oloys. Symfwna me aytes tis apofaseis prepei na oi elegktes na oloklhrwsoyn to ergo toys -shmeiwnw tis dhlwseis toy k. Mplij gia deyterh fora- exontas thn anesh xronoy poy xreiazetai gi` ayto. Me bash to porisma twn elegktwn qa klhqei to S.A. na ejetasei ta epomena bhmata toy. Kanw safes oti h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai pollwn eyrwpaikwn kybernhsewn einai pws den xreiazetai kat` anagkh polemos. Mporei na breqoyn eirhnikoi tropoi, opws qelei olos o kosmos, opws epiqymoyn oloi oi laoi gia thn epilysh ths diaforas. Emeis qeloyme na eimaste parontes stis ejelijeis kai anaptyssoyme seira prwtoboyliwn pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, enisxyontas tis dynameis ekeines poy prospaqoyn pros thn idia kateyqynsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Anamesa stoys ellhnikoys tropoys poy ejetazete, einai kai to senario peri apomakrynshs toy Santam Xoysein apo to Irak;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai qemata genikotera, ta opoia qa syzhthqoyn sth dieqnh Koinothta. Emeis phrame prwtoboylies. Gnwrizete poly kala oti egine h synanthsh toy k. Papandreoy me ton k. Mplij. Syzhthqhkan mia seira qemata kai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh enisxyoyme tis prwtoboylies mas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Opws eipate, eyxhs ergon einai na epiteyxqei mia koinh stash ths E.E. kai na mh fqasoyme se polemo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai monon eyxhs ergon. Pisteyw oti einai politikh anagkh. H E.E. prepei kapoia stigmh na apodeijei oti exei th dynatothta, se krisimes stigmes, na dinei deigmata koinhs ejwterikhs politikhs kai politikhs asfaleias ths.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ws kybernhsh, omws, qa prepei na blepete kai to enallaktiko senario: dhladh, an den ginoyn ola kat` eyxhn, h Ellada einai diateqeimenh na dwsei opoiesdhpote dieykolynseis sto edafos, ton enaerio xwro stoys Amerikanoys h na diaqesei strateymata ths se tetoies epixeirhseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai pagia qesh mas oti den metexoyme me strato se polemikes epixeirhseis, toylaxiston aytoy toy xarakthra. Apo ekei kai pera, ta ypoloipa zhthmata qa ta kaqorisoyme me bash thn poreia twn ejelijewn sto S.A. toy OHE. Ean, dhladh, o OHE apofasisei kapoies epixeirhseis h kapoia allh stash, emeis opws panta qa staqmisoyme tis qeseis mas kai qa kinhqoyme sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE. Alla, sas apekleisa thn emplokh ellhnikwn stratiwtikwn tmhmatwn stis epixeirhseis, an aytes telika apofasistoyn.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: O prokatoxos sas kai nyn ypoyrgos Ergasias Dhmhtrhs Reppas, se synenteyjh toy, diabaza, oti dhlwse pws an den htan ypoyrgos qa ginotan diadhlwths. Qa hqela na jerw ean symfwneite me ayth th dhlwsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai symboliko.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Eseis, ws prwhn syndikalisths, qa ginosastan kai eseis diadhlwths, k. Ypoyrge;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi dhlwseis aytes emperiexoyn ena symbolismo. O symbolismos einai ayto poy sas eixa pei kai prin apo merikes hmeres, edw, se ayth thn aiqoysa, oti den qewroyme antipaloys toys diadhlwtes, oti epiqymoyme na syzhthsoyme mazi toys. Qeloyme na entajoyme ton problhmatismo toys ston problhmatismo twn ergasiwn twn atypwn symboyliwn, poy synedriazoyn me qema "to mellon ths apasxolhshs kai ths koinwnikhs prostasias". Toys exoyme, hdh, zhthsei na perioristoyn se eirhnikh ekdhlwsh twn dikwn toys qesewn. Ayto to symbolismo prospaqhse na anaptyjei o k. Reppas kai sth Genikh Syneleysh.

Gia ta alla zhthmata ths epikairothtas, yparxoyn oi sxetikes dhlwseis.

Gia ta aqlhtika qemata, sas parapempw stis shmerines dhlwseis toy k. Benizeloy. Ekeino poy qeloyme na jekaqarisoyme -kai me tis dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy- einai oti eimaste apofasismenoi na ejygianoyme kai to xwro toy Aqlhtismoy. Yparxoyn anqrwpoi poy exoyn teleiws diaforetikes antilhceis gia ton Aqlhtismo, poy xrhsimopoioyn to xwro pros idion ofelos kai dhmioyrgoyn sobarotata problhmata, eite sto oikonomiko meros, eite zhthmata hqikhs tajews. Se ola ayta ta qemata, eimaste apofasismenoi na proxwrhsoyme. Kai pisteyw oti to stigma ths politikhs mas exei doqei kai se aytoys toys tomeis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Periorizeste sto qema ths AEK h milate genika;

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsa gia ton Aqlhtismo.

PITTARAS: Ton k. Cwmiadh, qa ton synanthsete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws, yponoeite th xqesinh anafora synadelfoy sas, an den kanw laqos, se kapoio kanali, peri dhqen prostasias toy Cwmiadh apo kapoion ypoyrgo kai sygkekrimena apo ton k. Kwsta Skandalidh, opws eipwqhke sth synexeia. Qelw na xarakthrisw ws aqliothtes oles aytes tis anafores. Pragmatika einai aqlio na epixeireis na emplekeis enan anqrwpo poy to kyros toy, h diafaneia twn drasewn toy kai h entimothta toy toso sthn proswpikh zwh toy, oso kai sthn politikh praktikh toy, einai gnwstes se oloys.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Epeidh periestrafh h syzhthsh gyrw apo ayto to qema, thn teleytaia periodo blepoyme polla qemata ths epikairothtas na trexoyn me enan koino paranomasth: Mia syzhthsh gyrw apo th diafqora me ton enan h ton allo tropo. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na antidrasei se ayto to fainomeno kai an nai, pws; Sas exei anhsyxhsei ayth h istoria;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kanw mia eisagwgikh parathrhsh: Proseja, xqes, se kapoio hlektroniko Meso Enhmerwshs, poy eixan anoijei kapoia syzhthsh gyrw apo ayta ta qemata, oti emfanisthke kapoios kyrios -synadelfos sas- o opoios eipe dyo-treis istories xwris anafora se onomata, topoys, hmeromhnies k.t.l., kai prospaqoyse na dhmioyrghsei mia eikona oti edw yparxei mia genikeymenh diafqora, legontas oysiastika "istorioyles". Na jekaqarisoyme ta pragmata mia kai kalh: H kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na xtyphsei th diafqora se oloys toys tomeis kai gi` ayto zhthsame na fqasei to maxairi sto kokalo. Zhthsame apo th Dikaiosynh na kanei grhgora kai apotelesmatika th doyleia ths kai na proxwrhsei thn ereyna se baqos. O,ti bgalei, loipon, h ereyna, giati einai armodies oi Dikastikes Arxes. H kybernhsh einai safhs: Ereyna se baqos, elegxos olwn twn kataggeliwn. To maxairi sto kokalo se oloys toys tomeis. H diafqora einai antipalos mas. Kai xairomai, giati yparxoyn sxetikes anafores apo alloys kai apo toys dikastikoys leitoyrgoys gia ena eniaio metwpo mesa sto qesmiko plaisio poy exoyme dhmioyrghsei me skopo thn patajh ths diafqoras, opoy emfanizetai. H kybernhsh, opws einai gnwsto, exei kanei terastia bhmata ston tomea ths diafaneias kai ths apotelesmatikothtas, toso sth leitoyrgia toy dhmosioy tomea, oso kai sta erga. Ekeino poy qelw na epishmanw einai oti aytes oi anagwges problhmatwn poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn emfanish fainomenwn, opws toy Cwmiadh sto xwro toy Aqlhtismoy h me thn emfanish aytwn twn kataggeliwn poy exoyn ginei gia ekbiastika kyklwmata, einai zhthmata poy den emfanizontai twra gia prwth fora, alla twra antimetwpizontai. H kybernhsh einai apenanti se ayta. As mhn epixeiroyn, loipon, orismenoi -kai kyriws oi ths N.D.- na dhmioyrghsoyn enan kamba me epiplasto kai ayqaireto tropo gia na mporesei isws na kanei mia emfanish o arxhgos ths sth syzhthsh poy qa diejaxqei stis 4 Febroyarioy, sth Boylh. Epishmainw oti h kybernhsh kanei th doyleia ths me ton pio entimo, diafano kai apotelesmatiko tropo. As frontisei kai h N.D. na peisei, estw kai sto elaxisto, oti einai oysiastika diateqeimenh kai oxi ypokryptontas skopimothtes, na symbalei sthn idia kateyqynsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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