Greek Government Press Briefing, 03-01-21

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw, symplhrwmatika, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Ayrio, stis 12.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Paideias Petro Eyqymioy kai stis 13.30, me to Grammatea ths K.E. toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth.

Thn Pempth, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Stis 14.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Rwsias k. Ibanof.

Oson afora th xqesinh omilia toy k. Karamanlh kai tis dhlwseis toy k. Roysopoyloy sxetika me ta erga, qa hqela na toys kalesw sth N.D. na hremhsoyn. Kai ayto to lew, giati apo twra kai sto ejhs prokeitai na paradidontai polla erga, opws einai programmatismeno. H arxikh stash ths N.D. apenanti sta erga htan na ta kataggellei san "maketes" kai san mia eikonikh pragmatikothta. Epeidh ayto den einai alhqeia -kai ayto apodeixqhke- kai epeidh h N.D. eide ta erga na paradidontai kai na leitoyrgoyn, opws gia paradeigma to aerodromio, to Metro k.a, allaje taktikh. Den leei, pleon, oti einai "maketes", alla oti yparxoyn oikonomika skandala sta erga. Qa hqela na pw oti h taktikh ayth ths N.D. (h opoia einai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh) einai lanqasmenh, einai politikh periqwriakoy kommatos. Dioti, h Ellada proodeyei. Ta erga einai mia pragmatikothta poy fainetai, poy th blepoyme oloi. Den einai kati kryfo. Paradidontai kai qa synexisoyn na paradidontai ston ellhniko lao. Thn idia, loipon, taktikh -giati exei parei to "copywrite" ayths ths kataggelias h N.D.- prokeitai na th broyme mprosta mas, profanws kai sta epomena erga, opws einai h gefyra ths zeyjhs Rioy-Antirrioy kai ta ypoloipa olympiaka erga poy qa paradoqoyn entos toy 2003, opws to Tram, h Attikh Odos, h perifereiakh Ymhttoy k.a. Epomenws, h N.D. prepei na synhqisei oti ayta ta erga einai pragmatikothta kai prepei malista na xairetai gi` ayth thn proodo poy synteleitai. Edw, qa xrhsimopoioysa thn paroimia "osa den fqanei h alepoy, ta kanei kremastaria", gia na mhn pw mia allh paroimia, me thn... alepoy kai pali, poy isxyei gia th N.D.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Eipate oti ayth h taktikh einai lanqasmenh kai, opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos xqes, einai lasph. Einai mono ayth h taktikh, einai dhladh "kapnos xwris fwtia" h yparxoyn kai pragmata ta opoia prepei na eipwqoyn; Giati, fantazomai oti ena komma, opws einai h N.D., den mporei, opws lete eseis, na leei logia toy aera kai na rixnei lasph. Kati prepei na yparxei. Den mporei etsi na kataggellei gia na kataggellei.

XYTHRHS: Thn taktikh na kataggellei gia na kataggellei thn yioqethse h N.D. apo thn arxh, otan elege oti ta erga einai "maketes". Twra, kanei kati allo. Megeqynei kati to opoio einai apolytws synhqes se ola ta erga poy exoyn ginei, oles tis epoxes. Dhladh, oti o arxikos proypologismos twn ergwn panta allazei sthn poreia ths ekteleshs toys, dioti paroysiazontai kapoia idiaitera problhmata. Ayto, h N.D. to megeqynei kai kataggellei ayta poy kataggellei. Oles oi apanthseis gi` ayta ta qemata qa doqoyn apo thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, se synenteyjh Typoy, meqayrio Pempth.

NIKOLAKAKOS: Gia thn perimetrikh ths Patras, poy egkainiase xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, eixan ginei dyo anakoinwseis. H prwth, toy 1999, elege oti to synolo toy ergoy, dhladh h kentrikh arthria, qa kostize 110 dis. H deyterh, to Dekembrio toy 2002, leei oti ta 18 xiliometra, poy egkainiase xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, kostisan peripoy tosa, dhladh 100 dis, syn. Pws ejhgeite ayth th xawdh diafora, mesa se tria xronia, oxi apo to 1982 poy ...

XYTHRHS: Den yparxei kamia xawdhs diafora. Sas eipa, omws, oti, gia ola ayta, qa apanthsei h ypoyrgos PEXWDE, kaqws kai o K. Laliwths, ws pleon armodios gia to prohgoymeno diasthma. Prepei, epishs, na labete ypoch sas kai tis synqhkes poy yphrxan tote.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn Pempth, qa einai koinh h synenteyjh Typoy ths kas Papandreoy me ton k. Laliwth; Qa apanthsoyn mazi;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, bebaia. Den eipa kati tetoio. O k. Laliwths, hdh, ekane kapoies anakoinwseis. H ka Papandreoy qa dwsei synenteyjh thn Pempth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den einai xawdhs h diafora. To ergo jekinhse me 5,5 dis kai efqase 110 me 115 dis. Einai mia yperkostologhsh 2.300%. To idio egine kai sthn Attikh Odo. Jekinhse apo 200 dis kai efqase 1 tris.

XYTHRHS: Akribws epeidh ta erga ginontai kai einai pragmatikothta, h N.D. askei olh thn kritikh ths sta oikonomika qemata. Dhladh, poso kostisan kai poso den kostisan. Qa parei apanthseis epakribws gia kaqe ergo, dioti apanthseis yparxoyn. Den eipe kaneis oti den eginan allages, oson afora tis times. Ayto ginetai -kai einai synhqes- oson afora ta erga. To gnwrizoyn oi pantes kai prwt` ap` oloys h N.D. Den gnwrizw an, ektos apo politikh antipoliteysh, exei kai kati allo sto myalo ths, an alla pragmata h alla symferonta qelei na yperaspisei. Ayto einai dikh ths doyleia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Prwtopapas, xqes edw, mas eipe oti 20% me 21% einai oi yperbaseis.

XYTHRHS: Qa doqoyn oles oi apanthseis apo thn armodia ypoyrgo PEXWDE.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla teleytaia, apanta kai to ypoyrgeio Typoy sta dhmosia erga. Kanei oloklhres anakoinwseis.

XYTHRHS: Kanoyme politikes anakoinwseis.

NIKOLAKAKOS: Den einai mono ths N.D. yparxei kai o k. Mparnie, poy einai o armodios Epitropos gi` ayto to qema, poy synanthqhke xqes me ton k. Xristodoylakh ston opoio diamartyrhqhke gia kaqysterhseis, yperbaseis proypologismwn, ton kindyno na xaqoyn apo to B` K.P.S. 500 dis draxmes, epeidh h ellhnikh pleyra den exei aposteilei ta sxetika eggrafa kai ta dikaiologhtika. Ara, kai kapoios allos epishmainei problhmata. Ti ginetai, oloi kanoyn laqos;

XYTHRHS: O k. Mparnie einai Epitropos kai kanei ayth th doyleia, apeyqynomenos pros oles tis xwres-melh poy efarmozoyn sxetika programmata. To idio kanei me oloys toys armodioys ypoyrgoys se ola ta krath-melh. Kai poly kala kanei. Yparxoyn panta dieyqethseis sta qemata, ta opoia qetei. Ola ayta ta problhmata exoyn apanthseis, tis opoies edwse o k. Xristodoylakhs ston k. Mparnie.

PANAGIWTIDOY: Qa hqela na pame se ena allo qema poy dhmosieyetai shmera stis efhmerides, sthn istoria me toys ekbiasmoys. Blepoyme oti tesseris Mhtropolites lene oti epesan qymata ekbiasmwn. Qa hqela ena sxolio.

XYTHRHS: Sxolio gia to sygkekrimeno qema den exoyme na kanoyme. To qema twn ekbiasmwn einai sth Dikaiosynh. Ereynatai. Apo kei kai pera, h Dikaiosynh qa apofanqei meta thn ereyna. Emeis den epembainoyme. Ayto, omws, poy qelei h kybernhsh -to exei epaneilhmmenws pei kai mporw na to epanalabw- einai oti prepei na jekaqarisei olo ayto to topio, fqanontas mexri to telos. Ayto qeloyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tis teleytaies hmeres exei paei kanenas poliths na dwsei kanena shmeiwma ston Prwqypoyrgo, kamia kataggelia;

XYTHRHS: Oxi. Pantws, s` ayta ta qemata twn ekbiasmwn -epeidh rwthsate- yparxei mia perirreoysa atmosfaira, mia sygxysh poy epixeireitai apo edw kai apo ekei. Qelw na ypenqymisw oti kai sta qemata ths tromokratias, sto prosfato parelqon, yphrxe, epishs, mia analogh sygxysh, dioti diaforoi ebgainan stis thleoraseis -ta stelexh ths N.D., to ena meta to allo- kai dhlwnan oti h 17N, den einai h 17N. To qymaste poly kala. Xreiazetai, loipon, perissoterh prosoxh sta qemata ayta kai sthn antimetwpish toys. O ellhnikos laos parakoloyqei. Na afhsoyme th Dikaiosynh na kanei to kaqhkon ths.

PEGKOS: Polloi lene oti h xronia poy dianyoyme einai proeklogikh. Qa brei h kybernhsh to sqenos, th dynamh na rijei thn AEK sth B@ Eqnikh kai alles 4-5 PAE, poy fhmologeitai oti exoyn ``mayrh trypa'' sta oikonomika toys;

XYTHRHS: Se o,ti afora thn eisagwgh ths erwthshs sas, oi ekloges qa ginoyn thn anoijh toy 2004. Kata t` alla, gnwrizete oti yparxei to Elegktiko Symboylio, poy kanei ereyna sta biblia ths AEK. Arxise xqes kai synexizei shmera. Otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna, qa paradwsei ston Ypoyrgo ta apotelesmata ths kai o Ypoyrgos, me th seira toy, qa ta paradwsei ston aqlhtiko dikasth, o opoios prokeitai na apofanqei sxetika. H apofash ayth qa einai telikh kai ypoxrewtika ektelesth apo thn AEK. Ean h apofash den ginei sebasth, ean den efarmostei apo thn AEK, tote qa symboyn ayta poy lete. Kai sthn periptwsh ayth, h kybernhsh exei kaqarh qesh. Qa ginei o,ti prepei na ginei kai qa einai jekaqaro, mexri to telos. Eite qa symmorfwqei, dhladh, h AEK me thn apofash, eite -se diaforetikh periptwsh- qa exei thn tyxh poy qa ths armozei.

FILHS: Xqes yphrje mia ejelijh sto qema toy Irak, mia symfwnia twn empeirognwmonwn-epiqewrhtwn toy OHE me thn kybernhsh ths Bagdaths. Pws ektima ayth thn ejelijh h ellhnikh kybernhsh, h ellhnikh Proedria, kai ean protiqetai meta apo ayth thn ejelijh na paei sth Bagdath;

XYTHRHS: Gnwrizete oti brisketai sthn Aqhna o k. Mplij, poy einai epikefalhs twn epiqewrhtwn toy OHE kai eixe synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy, o opoios ekproswpei kai thn eyrwpaikh Proedria. O k. Papandreoy proebh, kai xqes kai shmera, se dhlwseis sxetika me th synanthsh ayth kai thn prooptikh poy exei to qema ayto. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti mexri tis 27 Ianoyarioy, einai ypoxrewmenoi oi epiqewrhtes na kataqesoyn ston OHE thn ekqesh toys. Ean ayth h ekqesh exei oloklhrwqei, tote o OHE qa prepei na labei tis apofaseis toy. Ean den exei oloklhrwqei, tote -ayto pisteyoyme emeis- qa prepei na doqei paratash stoys epiqewrhtes gia na oloklhrwsoyn to ergo toys. Sas parapempw, epomenws, stis dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn.

FILHS: Yparxei mia epistolh toy k. Pronti proswpika ston Prwqypoyrgo, symfwna me thn opoia o Proedros ths Commission zhta apo thn ellhnikh Proedria na labei epeigonta metra, prokeimenoy sto ameso mellon -kai oxi toy xronoy- na stamathsei h kykloforia twn dejamenoploiwn me mono toixwma kai na doqei ejoysiodothsh sthn Commission na arxisei me ton OHE diapragmateysh, gia thn anaqewrhsh ths dieqnoys symfwnias gia th naysiploia, sto kommati poy afora ta ``brwmika ploia''.

XYTHRHS: Einai swsto ayto kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa probei, entos ths Proedrias, stis deoyses energeies, sto pneyma poy anaferate. Dioti, h ellhnikh kybernhsh prwtostatei sto qema twn allagwn, tis opoies anaferate kai anaferei kai h epistolh toy k. Pronti.

FILHS: O k. Anwmeriths, ws kaq ylhn armodios ypoyrgos, pro mhnos...

XYTHRHS: H Ellada symmorfwnetai apolytws, se o,ti afora to qema ayto. Kai einai ayth h opoia proteinei metra.

FILHS: Pros ti symmorfwnetai; ;

XYTHRHS: Sto oti ta ploia, ypo ellhnikh shmaia, qa prepei na exoyn oles tis anagkaies prodiagrafes, mesa stis opoies einai kai aytes poy anaferate.

FILHS: Den leme mono gia ta ellhnika ploia. Leme, ean h ellhnikh Proedria protiqetai na egeirei qema...

XYTHRHS: Sas apanthsa: Protiqetai.

FILHS: Omws, o k. Anwmeriths, pro mhnos, eipe oti yparxoyn merikes proypoqeseis, poy prepei na yparjoyn, prin egerqei ayto to zhthma. Isxyoyn h oxi aytes;

XYTHRHS: Qa syzhthqoyn ola kai h Ellhnikh Proedria qa labei sxetikh prwtoboylia, symfwna me thn epistolh toy k. Pronti. Einai jekaqaro ayto poy lew.

Sas eyxaristw.

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