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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela arxikws na sas enhmerwsw oti ayrio, logw ths synenteyjhs Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs k. Romano Pronti, poy qa pragmatopoihqei stis 13.00, den qa ginei h kaqierwmenh enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn.

Xrwstw, epishs, mia apanthsh se xqesinh erwthsh. Symfwna me enhmerwsh poy exw, oles oi klhrwseis toy OPAP xarakthrizontai apo plhrh diafaneia. Malista, yparxei ena systhma poy to parakoloyqei kai to eggyatai to Idryma toy Panepisthmioy Patrwn, ayto poy exei amesh sxesh me thn Plhroforikh, kai olh h diadikasia, oles oi diergasies, ginontai me bash dieqneis prodiagrafes tis opoies eggywntai dieqnh panepisthmia kai ereynhtika kentra. Einai, dhladh, klhrwsh hlektronikoy typoy. Den ginetai me ton klasiko tropo me ta sfairidia.

As perasoyme twra sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, to opoio eixe ws qema thn kalyterh proetoimasia mas gia ta qemata ths Proedrias. Sygkekrimena, egine syzhthsh gyrw apo tis proteraiothtes, toys stoxoys, poy exoyn teqei kai tis proteraiothtes poy kaqe ypoyrgos exei qesei sto ypoyrgeio toy. Eisagwgika, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane kapoies parathrhseis.

Arxikws, anaferqhke sthn anabolh ths ekdikashs ths ypoqeshs Otsalan. Eipe oti "den qelw kai den mporw na sxoliasw thn apofash toy dikasthrioy, alla diabasa kapoy oti h kybernhsh epidiwkei thn anabolh ths ypoqeshs. Ayto den einai alhqeia. H kybernhsh qelei kai ayth h dikh kai oi alles dikes poy exoyn politikh kai koinwnikh shmasia, na proxwrhsoyn. Einai anagkaia h dikh. Prepei na xyqei fws se oles aytes tis ypoqeseis. Den prepei na yparjei kamia dynatothta mh pragmatopoihshs aytwn twn dikwn mesw ths diadikasias ths paragrafhs. To deytero poy qelw na epanalabw einai oti xreiazetai na dinoyme apanthseis se osa sxoliazontai, se osa symbainoyn. Prepei na yparxei h qesh mas".

Tonise oti ean doyme thn eidhseografia aytes tis hmeres, qa diapistwsoyme oti sto epikentro ths, idiaitera sta thleoptika kanalia, einai ta qemata ths kaqhmerinothtas, ths zwhs twn politwn. Apo thn "trypa" sto METRO, mexri ta nosokomeia. "Den prepei -tonise o Prwqypoyrgos- na qewroyme oti ta gegonota ayta den exoyn shmasia. Kai megalh shmasia exoyn kai entypwseis dhmioyrgoyn. Gi` ayto kai sta mikra kai sta megala qemata prepei na yparxoyn apanthseis safeis kai ameses, enw taytoxrona prepei na dhmioyrgoyme kai emeis, me th doyleia mas kai tis parembaseis mas, qetika gegonota. Einai idiaitera shmantiko na anadeiknyoyme ayta ta qetika gegonota, na anadeiknyoyme ayto poy kanoyme, tis prwtoboylies mas, na fainetai h doyleia poy ginetai se oloys toys tomeis apo thn kybernhsh. Xreiazetai, epomenws, h entonh dikh mas paroysia".

Telos, o Prwqypoyrgos, epeidh yphrxan kapoies ektetamenes anafores gyrw apo kapoia prospaqeia dhmioyrgias programmatos ths N.D., eipe pros toys ypoyrgoys oti an diabastei ayto to keimeno qa diapistwqei oti yparxoyn synexeis genikologies. Oti to keimeno den periexei para gnwstes epanalhceis. Anaferetai se mia seira apo qemata, alla apo ta opoia exoyn hdh ryqmistei, alla aplws epanalambanontai kai se orismena shmeia ekfrazontai idiaiteres qeseis ths N.D., opws gia paradeigma to qema twn idiwtikwn panepisthmiwn. "Den mporei kaneis na pei oti me aytes tis qeseis prostiqetai kati kainoyrgio", tonise o Prwqypoyrgos kai prosqese: "Omws, prepei na dwsoyme kai tis dikes mas apanthseis. Na apanthsoyme s` ayta poy leei h N.D. gia mia seira qemata kai idiaitera se ekeina poy aforoyn to kratos kai th zwh twn politwn. Prepei se ayta ta zhthmata na dwsoyme tis dikes mas apanthseis, na apokalycoyme thn pragmatikothta".

Sth synexeia, h syzhthsh peristrafhke se ola ta qemata, kata ypoyrgeio kai kata Symboylio ths E.E., poy exoyn teqei, hdh, ws proteraiothtes, akribws gia na diapistwqei h etoimothta kai to ergo poy exei prohghqei, wste na antimetwpistoyn ola ayta.

Kleinontas, o Prwqypoyrgos tonise oti "den prepei se kamia periptwsh to qema ths Proedrias na qewreitai ws mia aplh diekperaiwsh. Bebaiws, mas fernei mprosta se mia eyryterh eqnikh, alla kai eyrwpaikh apostolh. Exoyme thn eyqynh, ayth th stigmh, na prowqhsoyme kai ta qemata ths E.E., alla kai th dikh mas qesh mesa sthn Eyrwph. Ara, to qema ths Proedrias exei idiaitero endiaferon. Endiaferei oloys mas".

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KALARITHS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai h pollosth fora poy anaferetai sthn anagkh na problhqoyn ta qetika toy kybernhtikoy ergoy kai na bgoyn oi ypoyrgoi kai na sthrijoyn tis prwtoboylies toys. Exei diapistwsei kapoio elleimma, eite epikoinwniako, eite epi ths oysias se ayton ton tomea;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oloi parakoloyqoyme na ginontai kapoioi sxoliasmoi h na anaferontai kapoia gegonota kai na mhn yparxei, eite amesws h apanthsh twn armodiwn, eite -kai ayto einai to kyriotero- na mh dhmioyrgoyntai ta qetika ekeina gegonota, ta opoia qa "bgaloyn" mia qetikh eikona pros ta ejw. Yparxei h anagkh dhmioyrgias qetikwn gegonotwn. Ayto shmainei oti prepei na prowqoyme thn politikh mas, alla kai na thn anadeiknyoyme swsta, proballontas ta qetika shmeia, ta apotelesmata ths se oloys toys tomeis kai idiaitera se aytoys poy aforoyn amesa ta problhmata toy polith.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Epeidh den katalaba apo thn apanthsh sas, ennoeite oti oi ypoyrgoi paragoyn qetiko ergo gia thn kaqhmerinothta twn politwn, alla gia kapoio logo thn apokryptoyn h den thn proballoyn h den paragoyn ergo h den einai eparkes to ergo poy paragoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipame oti to apokryptei kaneis. Einai safes oti h kybernhsh paragei qetiko ergo. Omws, se kaqe periptwsh, se kaqe fash, ayto to ergo prepei kai na anadeiknyetai kai na proballetai kai na yparxoyn synexeis parembaseis apenanti stis epiqeseis poy dexomaste. Gia paradeigma, polles fores ton teleytaio kairo, h N.D. epixeirhse na anaferqei se mia seira zhthmata. Xqes, o ekproswpos Typoy ths N.D. mas kalese na dwsoyme to oikogeneiako epidoma se 200.000 dikaioyxoys. Agnooyse profanws h N.D. oti to epidoma ayto dinetai edw kai eji mhnes. Agnooyse, epishs, h N.D. tis anafores toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn gia ta anadromika, oi opoies eixan ginei molis thn idia hmera. Se ola ayta ta zhthmata, ta opoia exoyn na kanoyn me th doyleia mas kai ta opoia aforoyn ton polith kai th zwh toy, o Prwqypoyrgos tonise oti prepei na yparxoyn apanthseis, oti prepei na dhmioyrgoyme qetika gegonota synexws, oti prepei na anadeiknyoyme thn politikh mas. An yparxoyn kapoia elleimmata h diapistwnontai problhmata, prepei na parembainoyme kai na dinoyme lysh.

ANTYPAS: Qa hqela na dieykrinisete, ean h frash toy Prwqypoyrgoy "na apokalycoyme thn pragmatikothta" afora thn adynamia ths N.D., opws isxyrizetai h kybernhsh, na sygkrothsei ena programma h thn adynamia -an ayto isxyei- ths kybernhshs na probalei to ergo ths;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den milhsame gia adynamia probolhs toy ergoy mas, oyte yphrxe tetoia topoqethsh apo kanenan. H anafora ginetai sto programma ths N.D. Einai safes. Afoy milame gia ena programma poy den prosqetei tipota, gia aplh epanalhch gnwstwn anaforwn gia topoqethsh se orismena qemata, ta opoia exoyn hdh pragmatopoihqei apo thn kybernhsh mas h epanafora kapoiwn palaioterwn apocewn ths N.D., opws xarakthristika eipwqhke, gia idiwtika panepisthmia, ayto shmainei oti ayto poy h N.D. epixeirei ceydepigrafa na proballei ws programma, prepei na apanthqei. Prepei na apokalyfqei h pragmatikothta oti, dhladh, den prosqetei tipota, den exei na pei tipota.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: O syntonisths oikonomikwn ths N.D. k. Alogoskoyfhs prin apo ligo xarakthrise kolafo thn ajiologhsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs gia to kybernhtiko programma staqerothtas. Kai mnhmoneyontas tis prosfates dhlwseis toy armodioy koinotikoy Epitropoy k. Solnters eipe oti oysiastika ta osa metra lambanontai, metakyliontai sthn epomenh kybernhsh, afoy o k. Solnters eipe xarakthristika -metaferw tis dhlwseis toy k. Alogoskoyfh- oti "ta perissotera metra einai entona eteroxronismena kai ta perissotera metra qa lhfqoyn gia ta xronia meta to 2003".

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws o k. Alogoskoyfhs den exei diabasei kala tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Xristodoylakh, kaqws kai ayta poy perilambanei o Proypologismos. Ayto anadeiknyetai apo thn topoqethsh toy, ektos ean syneidhta diastreblwnei ta pragmata. Ayto einai mia allh ypoqesh. Kata ta alla, opoios diabasei prosektika thn ajiologhsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs qa dei oti gia alloys ktypaei h kampana kai oxi gia thn Ellada. Kat` arxas, yparxoyn parathrhseis gia oles tis xwres. Ara, einai logiko se kapoia shmeia na yparxoyn parathrhseis kai gia mas. Omws, sta kyria shmeia, ekei dhladh poy epikentrwnetai to endiaferon -kai ekei qa elega poy dhmioyrgoyntai ta problhmata- den anaferontai qemata poy aforoyn thn Ellada. Antiqetws, opws poly kala gnwrizete, meta tis teleytaies prosarmoges poy yphrjan kai apotypwqhkan ston Proypologismo toy 2003 den yparxoyn diafores ths Elladas me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, oyte bebaiws kai me ton armodio Epitropo.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na qesw dyo erwthseis gia thn parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy se sxesh me th dikh Otsalan kai ypoqetw oti fwtografizetai kai h epikeimenh dikh ths ``17N''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oles oi dikes poy exoyn politikh kai koinwnikh shmasia.

KARGOYDH: Na rwthsw ean, dedomenoy oti o Prwqypoyrgos leei oti den epidiwkei h kybernhsh anabolh h kai paragrafh aytwn twn ypoqesewn, mporeite na mas perigracete kapoies alles pleyres, oi opoies na epidiwkoyn kati tetoio.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se dhmosieymata, poy yparxoyn sto shmerino Typo, me ta opoia epixeireitai na kathgorhqei h kybernhsh oti dhqen eite meqodeyse, eite synainese, me tropo poy den katalabainw, gia th xqesinh anabolh ths dikhs. O Prwqypoyrgos epeleje na einai idiaitera safhs. Qeloyme na ginoyn oi dikes, na ginoyn sthn wra toys, qeloyme na lamcei olh h alhqeia. Den exoyme tipota na krycoyme.

KARGOYDH: O Prwqypoyrgos edwse entoles ston ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs, oytws wste oso ton afora na frontisei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqoson ton afora -dioti gnwrizete oti yparxoyn kai armodioi- na frontisei gia th mh paragrafh.

GARGALAKOS: Sas enhmerwse o k. Xrysoxoidhs gia th syllhch poy egine shmera; Mporeite na mas peite ean epikeintai alles syllhceis; Den eipe kati o k. Xrysoxoidhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta qemata ayta den proanaggellontai. Erxontai ws apotelesma mias doyleias poy den ginetai apo thn kybernhsh, alla apo tis armodies diwktikes arxes. H kybernhsh exei thn politikh eyqynh. O armodios Ypoyrgos kai to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs askoyn ta kaqhkonta toys me ton kalytero tropo kai to gnwrizei o ellhnikos laos. Thn ereyna, thn taytopoihsh stoixeiwn kai proswpwn kai epomenws tis sxetikes diadikasies gia tis syllhceis tis kanoyn oi armodies arxes oi eisaggelikes kai oi diwktikes.

GIANNISHS: Exete gnwsh gia to ean qa mataiwqei h aeronaytikh askhsh ``TRIAINA'', poy afora xrhsh enos aerodiadromoy kai sygkekrimena toy

R-19, meta apo sxetikh parembash ths Toyrkias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Den yparxei qema mataiwshs.

SOYRMELIDHS: H epistolh poy esteile o Prwqypoyrgos ston k. Anan, dhlwnei thn etoimothta toy na diapragmateyqei to kaqestws twn eggyhsewn..

PRWTOPAPAS: Gi ayto einai armodia h Ellada.

SOYRMELIDHS: ...qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean h ellhnikh kybernhsh protiqetai na afhsei to kaqestws twn eggyhsewn ws exei apo th Zyrixh h protiqetai na qesei allagh aytoy toy kaqestwtos. Eidika meta th Kopegxagh gia na apallagei...

PRWTOPAPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh qa htan eytyxhs ean mporoysame na katalhjoyme oti h Kypros proxwra xwris eggyhtries dynameis. Einai safes. Ean, omws, ayto den katastei dynato, exoyme pei oti qa epixeirhsoyme na meiwsoyme ton ariqmo twn stratiwtwn, toys opoioys qa steilei kaqe eggyhtria xwra sthn Kypro, sto elaxisto dynato.

PITTARAS: Me poio tropo h Oqwmanikh Aytokratoria synebale sthn Eyrwph toy shmera, opws anaferei o Kwstas Shmiths sth synenteyjh toy sthn efhmerida ``LE MONDE''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Diabasete me prosoxh th synenteyjh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai qa exete thn apanthsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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