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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 13 Ianoyarioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Shmera, stis 11.30, eixe synanthsh me ton k. Paraskeya Aygerino, ypeyqyno dieqnwn sxesewn toy PASOK. Stis 12 to meshmeri, arxise h synedriash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs gia thn olympiakh proetoimasia, meta to peras ths opoias o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei kat` idian synanthsh me toys kyrioys Xristodoylakh kai Berelh poy metexoyn sthn Epitroph ayth. Stis 7 m.m., qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths DOE k. Zak Rogk, paroysia ths kas G. Aggelopoyloy kai toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy, armodioy gia qemata olympiakhs proetoimasias, E. Benizeloy. Stis 8 m.m., qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Boylhs Apostolo Kaklamanh.

Ayrio, Trith (14/1), anaxwrei gia to Strasboyrgo, opoy stis 3 m.m. (topikh wra) qa milhsei sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio.

Thn Tetarth, stis 11 to prwi, qa episkefqei to Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn sto Strasboyrgo kai sth synexeia, qa exei geyma me ton Proedro toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy k. Pat Koj.

Thn Pempth, stis 10.30, qa exei synanthsh me thn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me to G.G. toy NATO lordo Rompertson kai sth synexeia qa yparjoyn dhlwseis. Stis 19.30, qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai stis 20.30, qa exei deipno me ton k. Solana, armodio gia qemata Koinhs Ejwterikhs Politikhs kai Politikhs Asfaleias ths E.E.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 9.30 to prwi, qa synanthqei me ton Indo ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn. Stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me toys kyrioys Papandreoy, Giannitsh kai Kathforh, opoy qa syzhthqei to qema ths Syneleyshs ths Eyrwphs. Stis 12.30, qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias K. Stefanopoylo. Stis 13.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh kai stis 14.30 qa yparjei diypoyrgikh syskech, me paroysia kai kommatikwn stelexwn, gia thn proetoimasia ths episkechs toy sthn Patra, h opoia qa ginei th Deytera (20/1).

To Sabbato, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me to Germano ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Fiser, paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy, opoy qa syzhthqoyn qemata poy aforoyn th Syneleysh ths Eyrwphs.

Thn Trith (21/1), stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me to Roymano Prwqypoyrgo.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa hqela na kanw mia eisagwgikh parembash:

Einai gnwsto oti sth xwra mas qa pragmatopoihqoyn dyo Synodoi Koryfhs ths E.E.: Sthn Aqhna, gia thn ypografh ths dieyrynshs, ton Aprilio kai sth Qessalonikh, ton Ioynio. Epishs, qa pragmatopoihqoyn sth xwra mas, ws eiqistai se aytes tis periptwseis, kai mia seira apo ta legomena "atypa symboylia" twn ypoyrgwn, kata antikeimeno. Ta Atypa Symboylia, opws gnwrizete, exoyn barynoysa shmasia, dioti an kai den lambanoyn apofaseis, wstoso proetoimazoyn tis politikes ths E.E., epomenws kai tis apofaseis se mia seira zhthmatwn, meizonos shmasias. Zhthmata poy exoyn sxesh me thn poreia ths Enwshs, thn poreia ths eyrwpaikhs koinwnias kai tis diekdikhseis twn Eyrwpaiwn politwn. Me thn eykairia aytwn twn Symboyliwn, alla kai enocei ths Synodoy ths Qessalonikhs, exoyn ejaggelqei diafores kinhtopoihseis apo mia seira forewn.

Qelw na jekaqarisw ejarxhs, oti oloys aytoys poy ekdhlwnoyn thn proqesh toys na diadhlwsoyn, den toys antimetwpizoyme ws antipaloys. Kaqe allo, malista. Qeloyme to dialogo mazi toys, egkairws, wste ayta poy qeloyn na proballoyn kai na diekdikhsoyn, na mporoyme, kata to dynaton -kai efoson bebaiws mporoyme na ta yioqethsoyme- na ta enswmatwsoyme stis syzhthseis poy qa ginoyn kata th diarkeia twn diadikasiwn, oi opoies akoloyqoyn ayto to ejamhno. Gia to logo ayto, o Prwqypoyrgos aneqese ston ypoyrgo Makedonias Qrakhs G. Pasxalidh -se synennohsh pantote me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn- na probei stis anagkaies diereynhtikes kinhseis me tis organwseis poy exoyn ekdhlwsei thn epiqymia na diadhlwsoyn sth Qessalonikh, ton Ioynio. Analoges prwtoboylies exei analabei kai o ypoyrgos Ergasias kai Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn D. Reppas, o opoios gia to skopo ayto qa synanthqei sto Nayplio (sto xwro poy qa diejaxqei to Atypo Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Ergasias kai Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn) me seira koinwnikwn organwsewn, organwsewn Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, alla kai epaggelmatikwn organwsewn kai epimelhthriwn ths eyryterhs perioxhs.

Skopos aytwn twn synanthsewn einai na doyme ta zhthmata poy antimetwpizoyn, ta eidikotera problhmata poy yparxoyn gia toys tomeis armodiothtas kai na problhqoyn, kata to dynaton, ayta ta aithmata, oi qeseis, oi diekdikhseis, efoson yparxei symfwnia mesa apo to dialogo kai synergasia stis diadikasies ths E.E., oi opoies qa yparjoyn sth synexeia.

Qelw na jekaqarisw oti aytes oi diadikasies einai idiaitera shmantikes. Gia paradeigma, to Atypo Symboylio poy qa synelqei sto Nayplio thn allh ebdomada, exei na asxolhqei me idiaitera krisima kai shmantika qemata, me tis nees politikes apasxolhshs kai thn anaqewrhsh toys. O stoxos ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai eidika toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias einai na dhmioyrghsoyme kalyteres proypoqeseis gia perissoteres kai kalyteres qeseis ergasias sthn Eyrwph. Bebaiws, yparxei kai to qema poy sxetizetai me thn poreia toy Eqnikoy Sxedioy Drashs gia thn koinwnikh enswmatwsh poy afora thn koinwnikh prostasia toy eyrwpaioy polith kai to mellon twn eyrwpaikwn koinwniwn. Epishs, qa syzhthqoyn kai qemata poy aforoyn to mellon toy systhmatos koinwnikhs asfalishs sthn Eyrwph. Katalabainete oti ayta ta qemata einai idiaitera shmantika kai anoigei o dialogos gia thn kalyterh koinwnikh prostasia, me stoxo perissoteres kai kalyteres qeseis apasxolhshs.

Qeloyme, loipon, na pisteyoyme oti kai oi koinwnikes organwseis poy ekdhlwnoyn to endiaferon toys qa exoyn ton idio me mas stoxo. Eimaste sthn idia pleyra kai qa epidiwjoyme to kalytero gia tis eyrwpaikes koinwnies. Gia to logo ayto, prepei na yparjei dialogos kai synergasia. Kai ayto prepei na ginei egkairws, gi` ayto to shmeiwnoyme prwto. Qeloyme na pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na apofeyxqoyn orismena fainomena kai orismenoi typoi antidrasewn poy qa periexoyn to xarakthra ths ojythtas kai ths sygkroyshs. Ayto, se kamia periptwsh, den einai epidiwkomeno apo emas. To antiqeto malista. Alla, qa elega oti kai oi organwseis ekeines poy ekdhlwnoyn ayth thn proqesh, qa prepei na apofygoyn fainomena ojymenhs antiparaqeshs, me ta opoia den qa petyxoyn tipota allo, para mono na prokalesoyn problhmata sth xwra mas, na dyskolecoyn -qa elega- th megalh prospaqeia poy ginetai gia thn proodo twn eyrwpaikwn koinwniwn, gia thn apasxolhsh kai th beltiwsh toy systhmatos koinwnikhs prostasias.

Qeloyme, loipon, na kalesoyme se syzhthsh oles tis organwseis, oi opoies exoyn ejaggeilei sxetikes kinhseis. Eimaste anoiktoi, ejaggeilame hdh tis sxetikes prwtoboylies. Mesa apo to dialogo na probaloyn ta aithmata toys. Qa broyme tis kalyteres lyseis kai bebaiws, ean xreiastei na fqasoyn se morfes diadhlwsewn, aytes qa prepei na exoyn to xarakthra ths probolhs twn aithmatwn toys. Se kamia periptwsh na mhn exoyme fainomena, ta opoia qa syskotisoyn thn prospaqeia, qa apodynamwsoyn to epidiwkomeno apotelesma kai telikws, qa einai kata twn melwn twn organwsewn, me thn ennoia oti den qa prowqhqoyn nees lyseis. Qa einai kata ths idias ths poreias twn eyrwpaikwn koinwniwn kai den qa petyxoyn, para na ekqesoyn th xwra mas dieqnws.

Den exei kanena nohma na diatypwnontai aithmata toy typoy "na fygei h xwra apo thn E.E.". Otan qeloyme na prowqhsoyme zhthmata poy aforoyn tis eyrwpaikes koinwnies kai thn apasxolhsh, h diatypwsh tetoiwn aithmatwn den odhgei poyqena alloy, para se mia agonh antiparaqesh poy den ejyphretei kanenan.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Thn Pempth, meta to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, maqame oti o Prwqypoyrgos ekane kapoies epishmanseis gia th leitoyrgia toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos kai ton tropo apanthshs sth N.D. Sth diarkeia toy Sabbatokyriakoy kai shmera, eidame ena mparaz dhmosieymatwn me plhrofories apo kybernhtika stelexh, ta opoia qeloyn oysiastika toys Ypoyrgoys elegxomenoys apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, gia to oti den kanoyn kala th doyleia toys. Yparxei problhma sth leitoyrgia ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oydepote yphrje tetoio qema. O Prwqypoyrgos qewrhse skopimo na anaferqei se kati poy einai aytonohto kai to anefere gia na to enisxysei akomh perissotero. Oti, dhladh, qa prepei na apantame, na probaloyme tis qeseis mas se opoiadhpote kathgoria ektojeyetai kata ths kybernhtikhs pleyras. Gia paradeigma, einai gnwsto oti h N.D. ayth thn epoxh epiqymei na dhmioyrghsei mia seira arnhtikwn entypwsewn se baros ths xwras, alla kai se baros ths kybernhtikhs politikhs, apla kai mono epeidh qewrei oti h omalh roh ths Eyrwpaikhs Proedrias -kati poy einai idiaitera symferon gia th xwra- qa enisxysei kai qa dhmioyrghsei prosqeto kyros sthn kybernhtikh pleyra. Skeptetai mikrocyxa kai mikrokommatika. Skeptetai oti prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsw kapoio problhma sthn kybernhsh kai na kerdisw mikrokommatika, den distazw na dhmioyrghsw kai ena genikotero problhma poy mporei na ekqesei th xwra h na prospaqhsei na dhmioyrghsei skies -dioti pragmatika problhmata, toylaxiston ston tomea ths oikonomikhs diaxeirishs, den yparxoyn- oi opoies qa prokalesoyn sxolia se baros ths xwras mas dieqnws. O Prwqypoyrgos epishmane thn anagkh gia apanthseis, kaqws kai thn anagkh ths synepoys topoqethshs kai prowqhshs toy ergoy mas kai th dhmioyrgia qetikwn gegonotwn apo thn pleyra mas. Qetika gegonota poy na dieykolynoyn th zwh toy Ellhna polith kai na enisxyoyn tis prooptikes toy. O poliths den exei anagkh th mizeria, th mikrocyxia kai th synexh gkrinia toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

GKROMAN: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean yphrxe aithma apo thn amerikanikh kybernhsh sxetika me mia piqanh krish sto Irak ektos twn dieykolynsewn, poy zhthqhkan gia th xrhsh toy enaerioy xwroy ths Elladas kai th xrhsh ths bashs ths Soydas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrje kanena aithma, opws ayto poy grafthke ston Typo gia apostolh maxhtikwn strateymatwn sto Irak, se periptwsh polemoy. Kai tonizw, se periptwsh polemoy, dioti gnwrizw oti to qema ayto den exei kriqei. Pisteyoyme kai to diakhryssoyme se oles tis pleyres, estw kai twra, oti para tis dyskolies poy yparxoyn, mporoyme na apofygoyme ton polemo kai na breqei tropos gia eirhnikh epilysh ths diaforas, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE. Bebaiws, tetoio aithma, epanalambanw, apo thn amerikanikh pleyra den exei ypoblhqei. Gnwrizete oti pagia qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs einai na mhn aposteilei strateymata se periptwseis polemikwn syrrajewn. Me thn eykairia ayth qa moy epitrecete na epishmanw orismena pragmata: H ellhnikh kybernhsh pisteyei akradanta -kai en ocei ths eyqynhs poy exei analabei ths Eyrwpaikhs Proedrias- oti yparxei tropos, mesa apo th synexish twn diapragmateysewn, na breqei lysh sto problhma poy exei anakycei me th piqanh -opws legetai- yparjh oplwn mazikhs katastrofhs sto Irak. Oi diapragmateyseis mporei na dwsoyn lysh. O polemos kai h bia den einai panta lysh. Pros toyto, h ellhnikh kybernhsh me thn idiothta toy proedreyontos ths E.E., qa analabei mia seira prwtoboyliwn, poy hdh ekdhlwnontai kyriws apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy me tis kinhseis poy hdh exei kanei h exei programmatisei gia to epomeno diasthma. Einai safes oti ton kyrio logo ton exei to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE sto plaisio toy opoioy oloi kinoymaste. Alla, einai ejisoy safes oti den qa parameinoyme adraneis. H E.E. den mporei na parameinei adranhs, se mia ypoqesh poy afora oloys toys polites ths. Einai bebaio kai dedomeno oti oi prwtoboylies kai se ayth thn kateyqynsh yparxoyn kai qa yparxoyn. Mas endiaferei h E.E. na exei eniaia qesh. Mas endiaferei h E.E., ws Enwsh kai oxi o kaqenas jexwrista, na probalei mia sygkekrimenh parembash, mia prwtoboylia, ena programma gyrw apo aytes tis ejelijeis. Kai bebaiws polla krath-melh ths E.E. briskontai sto Symboylio Asfaleias shmera eite ws monima, eite ws mh monima melh. Kai anaferomai xarakthristika sthn Agglia kai th Gallia poy einai monima, alla kai gi ayth thn periodo th Germania kai thn Ispania poy den einai monima melh. Yparxoyn oles oi dynatothtes -kai ayth einai h pisth mas- kai ston polemo na mhn fqasoyme kai lyseis na breqoyn, alla qa prepei kai h E.E. sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE na anaptyjei th dikh ths eniaia qesh kai parembash.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei kapoio problhma me ton k. Stefanh; Exei ypobalei thn paraithsh toy ston Prwqypoyrgo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Aporw me thn epanalhch tetoiwn qematwn, apo th stigmh poy exoyme jekaqarisei pros oles tis kateyqynseis oti tetoio zhthma den yfistatai. Oydepote ypoblhqhke paraithsh kai oyte htan dynato apo th stigmh poy o Ypoyrgos Ygeias exei ejaggeilei ena sygkekrimeno programma panw sto opoio doyleyei. Allwste to exei pei kai o idios. Aytes oi anafores den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

GARGALAKOS: Alhqeyei oti to kostos ths Attikhs Odoy exei triplasiastei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H erwthsh einai idiaitera epikairh, dioti eidame xqes se merida toy Typoy, alla kai se genikes anafores sta MME, yphrjan oi sxetikes aitiaseis. Qa hqela na tonisw merika pragmata, ta opoia den einai h prwth fora poy ta leme. Toso apo th shmerinh ypoyrgo PEXWDE Basw Papandreoy, oso kai apo ton prwhn ypoyrgo PEXWDE Kwsta Laliwth exoyn eipwqei sth Boylh. Qa ta epanalabw kai qa sas dwsw ena bohqhtiko entypo gia na exoyme olh thn alhqeia mprosta mas.

Prwton, o proypologismos ths symbashs paraxwrhshs gia to aerodromio twn Spatwn anerxotan se 426,8 dis draxmes, poso poy kai shmera paramenei ametablhto. Afora 11 ergolhptries etaireies, poy einai oi megalyteres texnikes etaireies ths Elladas. Apo to poso ayto, 285 dis draxmes qa dinontan kai dinontai apo toys anadoxoys kai 142,5 dis draxmes apo to ellhniko Dhmosio.

Deyteron, oi eggyhseis sta daneia apo to ellhniko dhmosio, tis opoies epikaloyntai orismenoi, den aforoyn thn krisimh kai eyaisqhth periodo ths kataskeyhs, sthn opoia mporei na yparjoyn tyxon problhmata. A foroyn mono thn periodo ths leitoyrgias kai oxi thn periodo kataskeyhs toy ergoy.

Triton, ena prosqeto poso 120 dis draxmes problepotan apo th symbash paraxwrhshs gia xrhmata poy dapanhqhkan meta th dhmoprathsh toy ergoy, ta opoia eite aforoyn thn egkrish periballontikwn orwn, gia dieleysh mesa apo orismenoys dhmoys ths dytikhs perifereiakhs toy Ymhttoy, eite aforoyn prosqeta erga, opws gia paradeigma ayta poy ginontai se orismenes perioxes, eite aforoyn thn amoibh toy anejarthtoy mhxanikoy.

Tetarton, mia sobarh epibarynsh toy ergoy prohlqe apo tis apallotriwseis. Eixan proypologistei 107 dis draxmes kai to teliko kostos twn apallotriwsewn efqase sta 300 dis draxmes. Alla ayto afora apofaseis dikasthriwn, oi opoies den dexqhkan thn apoch ths kybernhshs kai htan profanws pio konta stis apoceis poy probalan oi idiokthtes ths ghs poy eprokeito na apallotriwqei. Den einai dikh mas eyqynh, oyte yphrxe dynatothta apo thn kybernhsh na parei kapoia allh timh apo th stigmh poy yparxoyn apofaseis dikasthriwn gia na katablhqoyn ayta ta posa. Epishs, einai 14 dis draxmes ta dikastika ejoda poy epidikasthkan kai epiprosqetws to kostos twn arxaiologikwn ereynwn.

Pempton, shmeiwqhkan orismenes tropopoihseis toy arxikoy sxedioy. Aytes oi tropopoihseis eginan giati yphrjan polles prosfyges kai htan ypoxrewtikes. Gia paradeigma, oi Dhmoi Xalandrioy kai Brilhssiwn prosefygan sthn E.E. Epishs, seira forewn ths Agias Paraskeyhs ekanan prosfygh sto Symboylio Epikrateias. To ergo, epomenws, me bash aytes tis prosfyges egine pio filiko sto periballon kai kalyfqhkan orismena prosqeta problhmata, poy den perilambanontan ston arxiko sxediasmo. Epishs, egine prosarmogh wste to ergo na syndeetai kalytera me to neo aerodromio kai to METRO kai me dedomenh thn apofash ths kybernhshs na proxwrhsei amesa ston Proastiako, eprepe pali na yparjoyn oi sxetikes tropopoihseis stoys arxikoys ypologismoys, oi opoioi den perilambanan kati tetoio stis politikes apofaseis ekeinhs ths epoxhs. Qelw na tonisw oti yphrxe seira megalwn antiplhmmyrikwn ergwn, ta opoia apo th stigmh poy jekinhsan me aformh to ergo, den mporei na stamathsoyn kai na perioristoyn. Prepei na ginoyn se olh toys thn ektash. Einai adynaton na diaxwristei to kommati ekeino poy afora stena to ergo kai oxi eyrytera thn perioxh h oles tis parembaseis poy aforoyn ton eyrytero xwro.

Gia oloys aytoys toys logoys qewroyme oti h syzhthsh poy ginetai den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta poy anadeiknyetai mesa apo tis sygkekrimenes anafores. Ta stoixeia ayta exoyn doqei kat epanalhch sth Boylh, toso apo thn Basw Papandreoy, oso kai apo ton Kwsta Laliwth. Giati h N.D. prospaqei me seira arqrwn stelexwn ths shmera, alla kai allwn parembasewn, na krathsei ayto to zhthma sthn epikairothta; Einai aytapodeikto to giati. To idio ekane h N.D. kai ligo prin egkainiastei to METRO, to idio akribws ekane kai prin egkainiastei to neo aerodromio. Epanalambanetai kai pali h N.D. sthn prospaqeia dhmioyrgias amfisbhthsewn, skiwn kai mias aney periexomenoy kai pragmatikothtas skandalologias, ligo prin egkainiastei ena neo ergo. Se ligo kairo, opws gnwrizete, prokeitai na doqei sthn kykloforia ena megalo kommati ths Attikhs odoy, 35 ews 40 xiliometrwn, to opoio qa exei sobara beltiwtika apotelesmata sto kykloforiako sthn Aqhna. Enocei ayths ths anakoyfishs ths kykloforias sthn Aqhna kai ths dhmioyrgias kalyterwn entypwsewn ston Ellhna polith, erxetai h N.D. me parembaseis boyleytwn kai stelexwn ths kai prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei thn eikona enos dhqen skandaloy, na amfisbhthsei to ergo, na rijei skies kai na prospaqei gia mia akomh fora na ypobaqmisei th shmasia twn megalwn parembasewn poy ginontai ayth ths stigmh sthn Attikh. Kai den einai h prwth fora poy to kanei. Den einai tyxaio, ejalloy, oti thn idia taktikh akoloyqei sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, opoy prospaqei na ekqesei th xwra mas. Apo tis 105 erwthseis poy exoyn ginei sthn Eyrwboylh gia to Koinotiko Plaisio Sthrijhs, oi mises peripoy einai apo boyleytes ths N.D. Einai mia sygkrothmenh prospaqeia, poy exei pesei sto keno mexri twra, poy ginetai gia na ekqesei kai na dhmioyrghsei problhmata sth xwra mas. Prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei thn eikona enos dhqen skandaloy sth diaxeirish twn porwn toy G` Koinotikoy Plaisioy, to opoio bebaiws den yparxei. Prepei na baloyme ta pragmata sth qesh toys kai na milhsoyme me pragmatikoys oroys. Qelw, na zhthsw apo oloys na bohqhsoyn se ayto.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eipate oti to kostos ths arxikhs symbashs htan 427 disekatommyria draxmes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Peripoy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Meta apo ola ayta poy mas eipate, poso eftase to kostos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti to kostos ths symbashs, oson afora tis etairies poy anelaban to ergo, paramenei to idio. Den exei allajei se tipota to kat@ apokophn timhma ths symbashs paraxwrhshs. To an to poso twn 107 dis. drx. anhlqe sta 300 dis -ta xrhmata poy doqhkan se polites gia thn apallotriwsh twn ektasewn toys, dioti yphrjan dikastikes apofaseis poy to epebalan- den afora kanenan ergolabo, kamia etairia kai kanenan ergolhpth dhmosiwn ergwn. Afora polites poy eixan kapoies ektaseis kai poy to dikasthrio toys epidikase ayta ta xrhmata. Mhn prosqetoyme posa anomoia metajy toys kai dhmioyrgoyme plastes entypwseis. Omoiws, den aforoyn ta antiplhmmyrika erga h erga poy eixan na kanoyn me th beltiwsh toy periballontos. Pws prosqetoyme anomoia metajy toys posa; Posa poy den aforoyn tis etairies, posa apo ta opoia (p.x. apallotriwseis) den exei mpei oyte draxmh sta tameia twn etairiwn.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na epistrecw stis arxikes parathrhseis sas, sxetika me tis piqanes diadhlwseis sth diarkeia ths ellhnikhs proedrias. Eipate se kapoio shmeio oti yparxei ena eidos diadhlwsewn poy qa ejeqete th xwra dieqnws.

PRWTOPAPAS: Milhsa gia piqanes sygkroyseis.

KARGOYDH: An qelete na ginete pio safhs..

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia paradeigma, mia piqanh kinhsh me aithma na fygei h xwra apo thn E.E. qa prospaqhsei na dhmioyrghsei problhmata, gia na dhmioyrghsei tis synqhkes sygkroyshs tis opoies, bebaiws, emeis oydolws epiqymoyme se mia perioxh. Einai safes, oti mia tetoia taktikh, oxi monon den ejyphretei thn epilysh twn problhmatwn twn ergazomenwn, alla strefetai kai kata ayths ths prooptikhs kai kata ths xwras.

Gia paradeigma: Thn paramonh toy Atypoy Symboylioy twn Ypoyrgwn Ergasias, o k. Reppas qa synanthqei me th legomenh "Koinwnikh Troika". Qa einai edw oi eyrwpaioi ergodotes, oi eyrwpaioi ergazomenoi, ekproswpoi ths Omospondias Eyrwpaikwn Syndikatwn kai oi ekproswpoi twn Omospondiwn twn atomwn me anaphries. Qa ginei mia poly sobarh syzhthsh, qa lhfqoyn poly shmantikes apofaseis kai mia seira apo energes koinwnikes parembaseis pros ofelos twn ergazomenwn kai eidikotera gia ta qemata ths koinwnikhs enswmatwshs twn atomwn me anaphries. Idoy, loipon, ena pedio na syzhthsoyme, na synergastoyme kai na dieyrynoyme tis eyrwpaikes politikes, oson afora thn koinwnia kai toys polites. H logikh poy ypagoreyei na fygei h xwra apo thn E.E., na dialyqei h E.E. kai h dhmioyrgia sygkroysewn gyrw apo ayto to qema, kanena den wfelei, tipota den prowqei, strefetai kata twn ergazomenwn kai to mono poy petyxainei einai na dhmioyrgei problhmata sthn Proedria kai th xwra mas.

MPOYATAR: Dhladh, to kalesma sas apeyqynetai kyriws pros to Kommoynistiko Komma Elladas, epeidh oi alles organwseis, apo oso jerw, den probaloyn kapoies tetoies proqeseis.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa prosejate oti apefyga na katonomasw, dioti emeis den qeloyme tetoia antiparaqesh. Den qewroyme tis diadhlwseis kai toys diadhlwtes antipaloys. To antiqeto. Qeloyme na exoyme ek twn proterwn syzhthsei mazi toys, gia na symperilaboyme tis diekdikhseis kai ta aithmata toys sto dialogo poy qa ginei. Alla, qeloyme na toys kalesoyme na sebastoyn kai tis poleis kai tis perioxes kai tis agores toys kai thn eikona ths xwras.

TAKHS: Dhladh, me liga logia, zhtate na mh ginei o,ti egine sth Genoba kai se oles tis alles diadhlwseis poy exoyn ginei kata kairoys sta Symboylia Koryfhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na epanalabw, loipon: Den qewroyme antipaloys kapoioys poy qeloyn na diadhlwsoyn. Qewroyme, omws, oti prepei na syzhthsoyme kai na synergastoyme, wste ayta ta opoia qeloyn na probaloyn, na enswmatwqoyn sto dialogo poy qa ginei sta Atypa Symboylia. Toys kaloyme na apofygoyn morfes kinhtopoihsewn, oi opoies dhmioyrgoyn prosqeta problhmata, den sebontai thn perioxh, den sebontai tis topikes koinwnies kai tis topikes agores kai to mono poy petyxainoyn einai na ekqetoyn kai thn Proedria kai th xwra.

TAKHS: Tote ti diadhlwsh qa einai ayth; Qa baloyn peribraxionio...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, bebaiws. Milw gia apofygh sygkroysewn.

MPOYATAR: Se ayto to plaisio, pws qa xarakthrizate tis diadhlwseis poy eginan sth Flwrentia; Den einai se ayto to plaisio poy kaqorizete...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw na xarakthrisw kanenan. Miloyme prolhptika gia mia qetikh diaqesh ths kybernhshs apenanti se kaqe morfhs diadhlwseis h stis koinwnikes organwseis.

A. PAPADOPOYLOS: Eggrafo toy toyrkikoy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn pros tis nomarxies ths xwras, anaferei oti den yparxoyn qalassia synora me thn Ellada kai ypoxrewnei, otan ekdidontai toyristikoi odhgoi, xartes k.t.l. na lambanoyn egkrish apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas h to Polemiko Naytiko. Exei yparjei kapoia ellhnikh antidrash;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekeino poy mas endiaferei, se kaqe periptwsh, einai ayto poy prepei na ginei. Kai ayto poy prepei na ginetai, qa ginetai me bash toys dieqneis kanones kai tis dieqneis symbaseis. Tipota perissotero kai tipota ligotero. H Ellada energei panta symfwna me toys dieqneis kanones, to Dieqnes Dikaio kai tis dieqneis symbaseis. H ermhneia den ginetai ayqaireta apo kapoion.

Sas eyxaristw.

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