Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-09-25

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 25 Septembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith, me antikeimeno syzhthshs to prwto sxedio toy Proypologismoy gia to 2003. O ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Nikos Xristodoylakhs paraxwrei, ayth th stigmh, stoys synadelfoys sas synenteyjh.

O k. Xristodoylakhs paroysiase ta basika megeqh toy proypologismoy panta bebaiws stis genikes kateyqynseis toy. Diejhxqh mia emperistatwmenh syzhthsh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai yphrje plhrhs symfwnia panw stis kateyqynseis kai tis basikes parametroys toy Proypologismoy poy sto zhtoymeno einai h anaptyjh, h staqerothta kai h dikaiosynh.

Kleinontas, o Prwqypoyrgos ekane orismenes epishmanseis sta xarakthristika toy Proypologismoy kai sth syzhthsh poy prohghqhke. Eipe, metajy allwn, oti o Proypologismos eggyatai th synexish ths poreias mas me asfaleia kai sigoyria. Den apodexomaste, tonise o Prwqypoyrgos, to klima mizerias kai arnhshs. Den kalliergoyme bebaia klima eyforias. Antimetwpizoyme ta pragmata me realismo kai synexizoyme thn poreia mas me diafylajh twn katakthsewn toy laoy mas. Prepei na prosejoyme idiaitera tis daneiakes anagkes, ton plhqwrismo, thn timh toy petrelaioy -idiaitera se periptwsh krishs sto Irak- ta xreh twn nosokomeiwn. Stis basikes parametroys toy o Proypologismos einai kai anaptyjiakos kai koinwnikos. Ayta einai ta basika xarakthristika toy. Idiaitero baros dinoyme, epeshmane o Prwqypoyrgos, se draseis poy ylopoioyn eklogikes desmeyseis mas, poy qetoyn th sfragida mas se oloklhrh thn tetraetia. Tetoies draseis einai:

-H asfalistikh metarryqmish poy apaitei, opws gnwrizete, shmantikoys poroys apo ton Proypologismo kai didontai.

-H forologikh metarryqmish, poy exei ejaggelqei prin apo liges hmeres.

-H prowqhsh twn olympiakwn ergwn. Kai,

-H ylopoihsh toy programmatos dhmosiwn ependysewn, poy qa ferei se peras swsta to G@ K.P.S. kai qa odhghsei se plhrh aporrofhsh kai twn porwn toy plaisioy.

Telos, o Prwqypoyrgos tonise oti den menoyme se diastreblwseis poy grafthkan stis efhmerides ton teleytaio kairo, peri dhqen diafwniwn. Syspeirwmenoi -opws fanhke sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio- kai apofasistikoi, qa proxwrhsoyme, xwris na dinoyme edafos se ekeinoys poy qeloyn problhmata mesw twn fhmwn, sthn analysh kai efarmogh ths politikhs mas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

ZAXAREA: Syzhthsate perissotero gia thn endexomenh epiqesh twn HPA sto Irak;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nai. O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke sthn Eyrwasiatikh Synodo, h opoia -opws gnwrizete- elhje xqes. Tonise oti to klima anasfaleias kai abebaiothtas, enocei endexomenhs krishs sto Irak, yparxei kai se oles tis asiatikes kybernhseis. Parathroyntai malista -opws anefere apo thn enhmerwsh poy eixe- kai shmantika problhmata stis oikonomies twn asiatikwn xwrwn. H yfesh einai dieqnhs kai parathroyntai problhmata se oles tis xwres, ejaitias aytoy toy gegonotos. Tonise xarakthristika oti apo tis syzhthseis poy eixe sto plaisio ths Synodoy me eyrwpaioys hgetes, metajy twn opoiwn kai o proedros ths Gallias Zak Sirak, symperane oti h syntriptikh pleiochfia twn hgetwn twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E. tassontai yper ths antimetwpishs toy problhmatos me to Irak sto plaisio toy OHE. O Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwse to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gia thn ekqesh thn opoia edwse o bretanos omologos toy Toni Mpler, h opoia doqhke xqes sto ellhniko YPEJ. Shmera doqhke kai mia ekqesh apo ton presbh twn HPA k. Miler. Yparxoyn diafores ekqeseis gyrw apo toys kindynoys poy dhmioyrgei h yparjh pyrhnikwn kai allwn oplwn sto Irak. Staqerh apofash twn eyrwpaikwn kybernhsewn poy metexoyn sthn E.E. -toylaxiston twn perissoterwn apo aytes, dioti gnwrizete oti yparxoyn kai alles apoceis- einai oti h antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy piqanon dhmioyrgei h stash ths irakinhs kybernhshs, se kaqe periptwsh prepei na ginei sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy S.A. toy OHE. O OHE epejergazetai ena leptomeres sxedio apofashs -den to gnwrizoyme bebaiws sto synolo toy ayth th stigmh- panw sta problhmata poy dhmioyrgoyntai apo thn kybernhsh toy Irak.

IWANNOY: O Giwrgos Papandreoy afhse kapoy na diafanei oti mporei na apotrapei aytos o polemos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Tipota den einai sigoyro. Den einai sigoyro oti qa yparjei polemos kai ayto anefere xarakthristika o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Kaneis den eyxetai ton polemo. Einai gnwsto oti tassomaste pantote yper ths eirhnikhs epilyshs twn diaforwn. Bebaiws, ean apo thn ereyna toy OHE diapistwnetai oti to Irak exei anaptyjei opla poy einai epikindyna einai safes -kai ayto to anefere kai o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn- oti kai o OHE prepei na labei ta metra toy. Alla emeis eimaste staqera prosanatolismenoi kai sthn ereyna kai sthn antimetwpish ths ypoqeshs mesa apo draseis, apofaseis, sto plaisio toy S.A. toy OHE.

IWANNOY: Epeidh sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio eginan kapoies xronikes probleceis, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe peripoy pote;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den mporei na to problecei kaneis me akribeia. An me rwtate, poly piqano na sympesei me thn Ellhnikh Proedria. Kaneis den mporei na to apokleisei ayto.

ALEJAKHS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, apo ta stoixeia poy exei parei apo th bretanikh pleyra kai shmera apo thn amerikanikh, exei peistei oti yparxoyn opla poy mporoyn na apeilhsoyn thn, kaq` hmas Dysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ta exoyme ayta ta stoixeia, ejetazontai, alla den eimaste akomh se qesh na exoyme mia telikh apoch. To katalabainete ayto. Einai poly prosfath h paradosh twn stoixeiwn. Logika xreiazetai mia cyxraimh kai endelexhs ejetash toys, h opoia exei hdh jekinhsei.

ALEJAKHS: Symplhrwmatika: Opws eipate, ean yparxoyn opla mazikhs katastrofhs sta xeria toy Irak, tote o OHE prepei na parei sobara ypoch toy ayto to zhthma. Ayto shmainei kai xrhsh bias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den einai aytonohto oti se periptwsh -syzhtoyme ypoqetika pantote- poy yparxei anaptyjh tetoiwn oplwn sto Irak, o OHE qa prepei na labei kapoia metra;

ALEJAKHS: Anafereste sth xrhsh bias profanws, etsi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Anaferomai se kaqe morfhs metra. Prwto metro fysika einai na klhqei h kybernhsh toy Irak na symmorfwqei amesws me tis apofaseis toy OHE. Apo ekei kai pera, einai safes oti kaqenas analambanei tis eyqynes toy. Qelw na qymisw oti h Ellada einai kai xwra, melos kai toy OHE kai ths E.E. Bebaiws qa anaptyjoyme kai tis dikes mas apoceis. Peri aytoy den yparxei kamia amfibolia, alla einai logiko oti qa kinhqoyme sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE kai ths E.E. Kai ayto qelw na ginei safes.

IWANNOY: Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos tonise pws den prepei na menoyme se diastreblwseis, anaferomenos sto to qema kapoiwn dhmosieymatwn oti yparxei gkrinia sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio h qa yparjei shmera. Mas doqhke h entypwsh apo tis syzhthseis poy eixame meta kai me toys ypoyrgoys, oti aytes oi gkrinies kai oi opoies antiparaqeseis metatiqentai se kat` idian synanthseis poy qa exei kaqe ypoyrgos me ton k. Xristodoylakh. Einai etsi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Istorika, sta 28 xronia -meta th metapoliteysh- ths ellhnikhs Dhmokratias, me oles tis kybernhseis -kai exoyn perasei tesseris, pente kybernhseis kai polloi prwqypoyrgoi, opws gnwrizete- panta qymamai thn epoxh toy Proypologismoy na yparxoyn syzhthseis metajy toy ekastote ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn kai twn allwn ypoyrgeiwn, panw ston Proypologismo. Qymaste kapote poy na mhn egine ayto; Den einai oyte gkrinies, oyte antiparaqeseis. Einai mia syzhthsh poy ginetai metajy toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn kai toy kaqe ypoyrgoy. Ta ypoyrgeia qetoyn tis protaseis toys, o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn exei to plaisio toy Proypologismoy kai ep` aytwn anaptyssetai h syzhthsh. Den katalabainw giati prepei na to dramatopoioyme.

Qa sas pw xarakthristika oti kai o prwhn ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn kai nyn Proedros toy DHKKI, o k. Tsobolas, moy elege proxqes se mia ekdhlwsh kapoioy thleoptikoy staqmoy oti "katanow apolyta ton k. Xristodoylakh, dioti ta idia pragmata akribws ginontai kaqe fora me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn". Kai den prepei oyte na dramatopoiei kaneis, oyte na ajiologei oti dhmioyrgoyn kapoio problhma. Einai logiko na ginetai mia syzhthsh.

ALEJAKHS: Egine kapoia sygkekrimenh anafora se sxesh me kondylia poy qa dioxeteyqoyn, meta kai tis prosfates fysikes katastrofes...;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn probleceis ston Proypologismo. Kai qa yparxoyn kai gia thn, apeyktaia bebaiws, periptwsh, gia parembaseis ekei opoy qa xreiastei. Qelw na sas pw, epishs, oti qa yparxei kai ena senario to opoio qa afora thn periptwsh dhmioyrgias problhmatwn apo endexomenh krish sto Irak. Dhladh, exei lhfqei merimna sto sxediasmo toy Proypologismoy gia antimetwpish olwn twn senariwn. Ayto einai safes. Den exoyme mono to "kalo senario".

ALEJAKHS: Epeidh yparxei mia filologia kai sthn Eyrwph, oti mporoyn na ejaireqoyn ayta ta kondylia apo th genikoterh katagrafh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai akomh nwris gi` ayth th syzhthsh. Qelw pantws na sas ypenqymisw oti h Ellada einai safws prosanatolismenh sto plaisio toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas.

KARGOYDH: Nai, alla h KOMISION k. Ypoyrge, eipe...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipe h KOMISION kati diaforetiko. H Ellada, omws, exei kaqe logo na einai staqera prosanatolismenh sto plaisio toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas.

KONTOPOYLOS: Xqes, eidame koryfaia stelexh ths N.D. na yioqetoyn to proeklogiko synqhma me to opoio katerxetai o ypochfios ypernomarxhs G. Tzannetakos. H yioqethsh, apo thn hgesia ths N.D., toy synqhmatos aytoy, mhpws odhghsei kai thn kybernhsh se mia analogh, as to poyme, politikh stash enocei twn dhmotikwn eklogwn; Dhladh, na dwsei to diko ths politiko mhnyma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Plhroforhqhka pantws -den gnwrizw ean einai swsth h plhroforhsh moy- oti kai meta to politiko symboylio ths N.D. eginan shmera analoges dhlwseis. Prepei na exoyn ginei molis twra. Exoyme pantws kai dhlwsh thn opoia ekane -kai exei bgei hdh sto APE -o tews prwqypoyrgos kai epitimos arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, o k. Kwnstantinos Mhtsotakhs, o opoios mila pali gia "politikopoihsh" kai "mhnyma pros thn kybernhsh" apo tis ekloges. Ayth fainetai na einai kai h epishmh grammh toy kommatos ths N.D., dioti yparxoyn kai oi xqesines dhlwseis twn kyriwn Roysopoyloy kai Soyflia. Edw nomizw oti prepei na kanoyme ena sxolio, poy exei na kanei me th N.D. kai ta stelexh ths kai oxi me kapoion allon. Dioti, oi dhlwseis allwn den mas aforoyn. An moy epitrepete, qa xrhsimopoihsw mia neolaiistikh ekfrash: Fainetai oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs einai "kollhmeno" me to xqes. Me tis paradosiakes antilhceis ths Dejias gia thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh. O poliths se aytes tis ekloges, ean steilei mhnyma, ena mhnyma qa steilei: Oti "qa epilejw ton kalytero gia nomarxh h dhmarxo kai qa symporeytw mazi toy gia tessera xronia". O poliths den qelei kapoion o opoios den mporei na staqei kai xreiazetai dekanikia. O poliths qelei mia Aytodioikhsh anejarthth, aytonomh, poy na mporei na dwsei lyseis sta problhmata poy aforoyn thn poiothta zwhs kai na odhghsei sthn anaptyjh toy topoy toy. Kai me ayta ta krithria qa epilejei.

KONTOPOYLOS: Dhladh, otan qa bgei to apotelesma twn eklogwn, h kybernhsh den qa exei parei to opoiodhpote mhnyma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa molis, gia to poio einai to mhnyma twn eklogwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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