Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-09-24

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Septembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes hrqe edw o eidikos antiproswpos toy G.G. twn H.E. k. Nte Soto. Eixe synanthsh me ton k. Papandreoy, syzhthsan to Kypriako kai thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E.. Qa hqela na moy peite an metefere kati ston k. Papandreoy, giati fhmologeitai oti stis 3 kai 4 Oktwbrioy, sth N. Yorkh, piqanws na yparjei kapoio sxedio lyshs toy Kypriakoy apo thn pleyra toy G.G. to opoio na epidoqei stis dyo pleyres. Yparxei kati tetoio; Ti syzhthqhke;

PRWTOPAPAS: Egine genikh anaskophsh ths katastashs. Apo thn pleyra mas, o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn tonise oti to keimeno Ntenktas den prosferei tipota kainoyrgio -kai qelw na to jekaqarisw ayto- einai stis gnwstes toyrkikes apoceis. H Ellada kai o OHE menoyn staqera sthn apoch oti to Kypriako prepei na lyqei mesa sto plaisio twn apofasewn kai twn chfismatwn toy OHE. An sto mellon o OHE krinei oti prepei na kanei kapoia protash, ayto einai ena qema poy den einai gnwsto mexri twra. Gnwrizete oti syzhteitai kata kairoys, alla den yparxei tipota dedomeno. Emeis pantws se kaqe periptwsh epimenoyme sth gnwsth qesh poy einai kai qesh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias kai pisteyoyme oti einai orqh. Na lyqei, dhladh, to Kypriako basei twn apofasewn kai chfismatwn toy OHE.

H entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. einai kati teleiws diaforetiko, poy exei na kanei me tis apofaseis ths E.E.. Gnwrizete oti oristikopoihqhke h atyph Synodos poy qa pragmatopoihqei stis Bryjelles stis 24 kai 25 Oktwbrioy, opoy profanws qa syzhthqei to qema. Problepetai pantws oti den qa kleisei sth Synodo ayth giati einai atyph, alla isws kleisei, an ola pane kala - kai pisteyoyme oti qa pane kala- sth Synodo Koryfhs sthn Kopegxagh. Apo edw kai pera, opws gnwrizete, qa yparxoyn prwtoboylies kai diaboyleyseis, toso toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oso kai toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me hgetes olwn twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn. Hdh exei anakoinwqei oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me toys kyrioys Mpler, Sirak kai Srenter kai bebaiws qa yparjoyn epafes toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn me eyrwpaioys hgetes. Ginetai mia poly kalh proetoimasia, wste na kleisei kala to qema ths entajhs ths Kyproy. Den afhnoyme to qema sthn tyxh toy.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Tis toyrkikes antidraseis pws tis antimetwpizei h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqhmerina yparxoyn toyrkikes antidraseis. Ekeino, omws, poy xreiazetai einai na yparxei staqerothta, cyxraimia, doyleia. Proetoimasia, dhladh, poy hdh ginetai kai qa ginei poly kala. Eimaste se plhrh synennohsh me thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai emmenoyme sthn thrhsh twn desmeysewn poy h idia h E.E. exei analabei. Apo ekei kai pera kala qa kanei h Toyrkia -an qelei thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths kai pisteyw oti prepei na th qelei- na mhn emmeinei se aytes tis proklhseis -poy profanws exoyn na kanoyn kai me tis ekloges- alla na allajei rota kai sto Kypriako.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ayth thn wra yparxei paneqnikh fwnh, oson afora to Kypriako;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme problhmata se ayto to shmeio. Yparxei eqnikh omocyxia kai prepei na to shmeiwsoyme.

KARGOYDH: Thn Pempth anejarthtes proswpikothtes diorganwnoyn ena syllalhthrio kata toy epikeimenoy polemoy sto Irak. H bash toy syllalhthrioy einai oti etsi qa skotwqoyn aqwoi, ekatommyria paidia, andres kai gynaikes. Qa hqela na rwthsw an politika kalyptetai h kybernhsh apo ayto to syllalhthrio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti exoyme mia idiaiterh prosoxh sto sebasmo ths aytonomias twn kinhsewn apo opoy ki an ginontai. Ayto apodeijame kai sto syllalhthrio toy INKA, prin apo ligo kairo. H kybernhsh den mporei na empleketai qetika h arnhtika me tis kinhseis twn aytonomwn kinhmatwn. H kybernhsh prepei na sebetai tis kinhseis twn aytonomwn kinhmatwn apo opoy ki an ginontai kai na ajiologei tis protaseis toys, tis diamartyries toys, tis apoceis toys, pantote bebaia sto plaisio ths grammhs thn opoia akoloyqoyme. Ayth th stash prepei na thrhsoyme kai twra. Oson afora thn oysia toy problhmatos exw, kat` epanalhch, topoqethqei. H Ellada den qelei ton polemo, den pisteyei oti ta problhmata lynontai me th bia kai ton polemo. Pisteyoyme oti oi xeirismoi poy qa ginoyn apo to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE mporei -ean kai h kybernhsh toy Irak ferqei wrima kai swsta- na dwsoyn mia lysh sto problhma, na odhghsoyn sthn antimetwpish toy. Qelw na pisteyw oti prepei, se kaqe periptwsh, na epimeinoyme sthn antimetwpish toy problhmatos mesa apo to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE.

SOYGLERHS: Einai alhqeia oti synanthqhkate me ton k. Karatzaferh; Poios zhthse th synanthsh kai ti eipwqhke;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Karatzaferhs zhthse th synanthsh ayth, opws th zhthsan kai alloi mexri twra. Exw dei, hdh, kai ton k. Glezo kai ton k. Koybelh kai shmera synanthqhka me ton k. Karatzaferh. Opws gnwrizete exw synanthqei kai me ton Proedro toy SYN k. Kwnstantopoylo. Qa dw opoion moy zhthsei synanthsh. Bebaiws, to aithma einai to idio. Opws kai oi alloi, etsi kai o k. Karatzaferhs epemeine sthn isotimh probolh twn apocewn twn syndyasmwn, kyriws mesa apo th dhmosia thleorash, alla kai sth bohqeia -oso mporei na yparjei, bebaiws- toy ypoyrgeioy kai toy ESR gia thn oso to dynaton isotimh probolh twn apocewn twn ypochfiwn kai apo ta idiwtika radiothleoptika Mesa. Opws kai ston k. Glezo, etsi kai ston k. Karatzaferh, eipa oti h dhmosia thleorash -kai pros timhn ths- exei analabei qetikes prwtoboylies pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Einai gnwsto oti ginetai megalh prospaqeia na paroysiastoyn oles oi apoceis, toso gia thn Ypernomarxia, oso kai gia toys megaloys Dhmoys. Gnwrizete oti exoyn programmatistei panel gia thn ylopoihsh ayths ths apochs, me parontes oloys toys ypochfioys. Isws prwtoporei h dhmosia thleorash ws pros ayto kai prepei na th sygxaroyme. Qelw, omws, na parakalesw kai thn idiwtikh thleorash, paroti den yparxei nomiko plaisio, na skefqei oti yparxoyn zhthmata deontologias ta opoia prepei na thrhqoyn kai se ayth th fash, mesa apo thn probolh olwn twn apocewn.

MIXAHL: Epeidh anaferqhkate se qemata thleorashs, qa parakalesw na moy sxoliasete, ean mporeite to ejhs: Peran ths eyqynhs poy exoyn sygkekrimenoi synadelfoi kai sygkekrimena MME gia ton tropo poy xeirizontai thn ypoqesh ths tromokratias, ean kata thn ektimhsh ths kybernhshs yparxei problhma me th dikastikh prospaqeia ths feromenhs ws kathgoroymenhs, kas Swthropoyloy, na stamathsoyn oi opoiesdhpote anafores kai ta reportaz gyrw apo to diko ths proswpo kai olwn ekeinwn poy sxetizontai sto qema ths tromokratias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den blepw to logo, giati prepei na apasxolei thn kybernhsh ayto.

MIXAHL: Na sas pw giati, k. Ypoyrge: Ws oysia, den prepei na sas apasxolei. Ws typos, omws, to gegonos oti me ayto ton tropo epidiwketai mia prospaqeia, peran ths eyqynhs kapoioy MME, na mhn ginetai dhmosiografikh doyleia, ayto den sas apasxolei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H ka Swthropoyloy den prosefyge sthn kybernhsh. Sth Dikaiosynh prosefyge.

MIXAHL: Oxi, den katalabate. Me ayto ton tropo, askeitai mia morfh prolhptikhs logokrisias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kyrie Mixahl, katalabainw oti yparxei h anagkh ths thleqeashs.

MIXAHL: Me sygxwreite, den einai panta etsi...

PRWTOPAPAS: Katalabainw oti yparxoyn oi anagkes ths thleqeashs, alla parallhla yparxei kai dikastikh ejoysia sthn Ellada, h opoia, opws gnwrizete, einai aytonomh.

MIXAHL: Den prosejate thn erwthsh moy, lypamai para poly.

PRWTOPAPAS: Akoysa thn erwthsh sas. Egw etsi mporw na apanthsw.

MIXAHL: Qa janaqesw thn erwthsh: Peran ths eyqynhs twn MME, to gegonos oti epidiwketai, dia ths dikastikhs odoy, periorismos ths dhmosiografikhs ereynas, ayto sas apasxolei h oxi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi. Oi diafores ths kas Swthropoyloy me orismena MME h orismenoys anqrwpoys apasxolei th dikastikh ejoysia pros thn opoia exei prosfygei. Den blepw to logo giati prepei na apasxolei emena. H dikastikh ejoysia kanei poly kala th doyleia ths kai ektima ti ginetai h ti den ginetai sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn. Loipon: mh dhmioyrgoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn. Afhste toys armodioys na kanoyn th doyleia toys. Kai me thn eykairia ayth, qa hqela na pw oti oso pio poly afhnoyme tis armodies arxes kai th Dikaiosynh na kanoyn th doyleia toys, toso pio poly kala qa paei ayth h ypoqesh.

MPOTWNHS: Epeidh grafetai kai akoygetai oti yparxei kontra toy k. Xristodoylakh me diaforoys ypoyrgoys poy toy zhtoyn ayjhsh twn kondyliwn sto xwro eyqynhs toys, twn ypoyrgeiwn dhladh, yparxei kati tetoio; Epeidh syzhtame ayrio ton Proypologismo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei kamia kontra toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn me toys synadelfoys toy. Opws gnwrizete, kaqe xrono tetoia epoxh, opoios ki an einai o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, opoia ki an einai h kybernhsh, synhqizoyn oi synadelfoi sas na grafoyn peri aithmatwn poy yparxoyn apo ola ta ypoyrgeia k.o.k. Prokeitai, profanws, gia protaseis poy exoyn ginei apo ola ta ypoyrgeia gia ton Proypologismo. Kaqe xrono tetoia epoxh, yparxoyn paromoia sxolia se polles efhmerides. Gi` ayto, synedriazei ayrio to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Yparxei eparkhs proetoimasia apo to ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, prokeimenoy ola ayta na entaxqoyn sto plaisio toy neoy kratikoy Proypologismoy, tis basikes politikes kateyqynseis toy opoioy, qa tis gnwrizoyme ayrio.

MOYRTZHS: Protiqetai h ellhnikh kybernhsh na ekdwsei notam pros oles tis xwres, enocei ths Olympiadas toy 2004, poy qa synodeyetai me thn ektimhsh oti h Aqhna diathrei, epi toy dieqnoys aeroporikoy Dikaioy, to dikaiwma na anagnwrizei, na anaxaitizei h na katarriptei aeroplana -an apaithqei bebaia ayto- ta opoia eiserxontai aproeidopoihta ston enaerio xwro mas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto den to gnwrizw.

MOYRTZHS: Prokeitai gia ena dhmosieyma toy "Bhmatos".

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw, qa to cajw kai qa sas enhmerwsw ayrio. Alla, qelw na sas qymisw oti ayto isxyei pagiws.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Ektos apo ta toyrkika aeroskafh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai ta toyrkika aeroskafh, ta opoia panta anaxaitizontai.

MOYRTZHS: Exei eidopoihsei h Aqhna ton ICAO oti apo ton Ioynio toy 2004 qa epibalei zwnh apagoreyshs twn pthsewn sthn Aqhna kai ta nhsia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw. Qa rwthsw kai qa sas pw ayrio. Einai texniko qema, alla pantws politika den yparxei kanena problhma.

SOYGLERHS: Xqes, o genikos deikths toy XAA ekleise me arnhtiko rekor tetraetias. Poy pame; Poy odhgeitai to XAA; Qelw to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai pagia arxh moy na mh sxoliazw ta toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Giati oso perissotero to sxoliazoyme, toso dysmenestera apotelesmata epiferoyme. Merimnoyme gia th qwrakish twn ependytwn poy asxoloyntai me to Xrhmatisthrio kai thn prostasia toys apo kaqe ennoia kerdoskopias. Ayth einai h eyqynh ths kybernhshs. Oso kalytera phgainei h oikonomia kai oso oi ependytes einai bebaioi oti den prokeitai na pesoyn qymata kerdoskopias, toso to Xrhmatisthrio prooptika, makroproqesma qa phgainei kalytera. Omws, den prepei na parasyromaste apo kinhseis poy exoyn ena braxyproqesmo xarakthra, logw ths dieqnoys sygkyrias. Einai ejalloy fainomena poy parathroyntai se ola ta xrhmatisthria toy kosmoy.

ELENOPOYLOS: Exoyme kai xasoyra, omws...

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw, omws, na sas qymisw oti se ola ta dieqnh xrhmatisthria h apeilh enos polemoy poy ektojeyetai, idiaitera se mia eyaisqhth perioxh, panta exei sobares epiptwseis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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