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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 2 Septembrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres:

O Prwqypoyrgos, shmera, stis 10 to prwi, eixe synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh kai toys yfypoyrgoys Apostolo Fwtiadh kai Giwrgo Flwridh. Symmeteixe kai o epikefalhs toy oikonomikoy grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy Gkikas Xardoybelhs. Antikeimeno ths syzhthshs htan h oristikopoihsh qematwn poy aforoyn th forologikh metarryqmish, enocei kai ths Dieqnoys Ekqeshs Qessalonikhs. Stis 12.30, o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke me to proedreio toy SEB. Stis 14.00, qa exei synanthsh me ton Panellhnio Syndesmo Ejagwgewn Boreioy Ellados kai Krhths.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qema th forologikh metarryqmish, kaqws kai alla oikonomika qemata, enocei ths DEQ. Meta to peras ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, o Prwqypoyrgos qa probei se dhlwseis.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo. Stis 12.00, qa synanthqei me ton Rwso presbh.

Thn Pempth, stis 13.00, qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 13.30, o Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs kybernhtikoy klimakioy, qa anaxwrhsei gia th Qessalonikh. To brady, me thn eykairia twn egkainiwn ths DEQ, qa ekfwnhsei omilia politikoy kai oikonomikoy periexomenoy.

To Sabbato to prwi, qa episkefqei diafora erga poy ekteloyntai sthn perioxh ths Qessalonikhs. To meshmeri qa parakaqisei se geyma me kommatika stelexh ths Boreioy Elladas kai to apogeyma qa yparxei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys koinwnikoys kai paragwgikoys foreis toy nomoy Qessalonikhs.

Thn Kyriakh to prwi, qa episkefqei th DEQ kai sth 1 h wra qa paraxwrhsei thn kaqierwmenh synenteyjh Typoy.

To epishmo programma qa sas doqei.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa hqela na kanw ena sxolio gia to qema ths tromokratias.

Exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch, oti to qema ths antimetwpishs ths tromokratias einai ena idiaitera sobaro zhthma poy ofeiloyme oloi -kai pisteyw oti ayto apo thn kybernhsh, alla kai tis Arxes asfaleias exei ginei mexri twra- na to proseggisoyme me idiaitero aisqhma eyqynhs kai sobarothtas. Kai ayto zhthsame kai qa elega oti me kapoies ejaireseis, toylaxiston, mexri protinos eixe pragmatopoihqei kai apo tis politikes dynameis ths xwras.

Eixame pei, epishs, oti to qema ths tromokratias, epeidh akribws einai idiaitera sobaro kai apaitei stash eyqynhs, den mporei na proseggizetai, oyte me thn ennoia toy thleoptikoy sooy, oyte me thn ennoia toy qeamatos, apo to opoio kapoioi prosdokoyn na kerdisoyn.

Dystyxws, tis teleytaies hmeres, emfanizontai kapoioi periferomenoi "paramyqades", oi opoioi gyrizoyn apo kanali se kanali kai prospaqoyn me asthrikta epixeirhmata kai diafores grafikes aitiologies na emplejoyn stelexh toy PASOK sthn ypoqesh ths tromokratias. Ayto to kanoyn, eite gia na "poylhsoyn", eite gia agnwstes skopimothtes gia tis opoies o kaqenas mporei na ypoqesei o,ti qelei. To qema einai idiaitera grafiko kai etsi qa to antimetwpizame, an den aforoyse to idiaitera sobaro qema ths tromokratias. Gi` ayto to logo kai h prospaqeia emplokhs politikoy xwroy kai stelexwn toy se ayto, apo aytoys toys "paramyqades" kaqistatai epikindynh. Den einai dynaton pote to a@ h to b@ stelexos, kentrika stelexh, ypoyrgoi, prwhn ypoyrgoi, me ayqaireto kai asthrikto tropo, me geloies aitiologies na epixeireitai na emfanizontai oti exoyn kapoia sxesh amesh h emmesh me th 17 Noembrh. Einai xarakthristiko, ayto to pragmatika geloio paradeigma me to aytokinhto poy epixeirhqhke na emfanistei ws aytokinhto ths EYP, to opoio briskotan sto xwro ths ekrhjhs. To aytokinhto ayto anhkei sth Nomarxia Peiraiws kai einai apolyta logiko na htan parkarismeno sthn eyryterh perioxh. Orismenes apo aytes tis aitiologies eixan epanw kai th sfragida ths dikografias. Dhladh, stoixeia poy exoyn teqei ypoch twn arxwn kai den exei prospaqhsei kaneis na ta apokrycei.

Edw, omws, qa elega oti yparxei ena qema. Den mporei na epitrepei kaneis na dhmioyrgeitai eytelismos enos idiaitera sobaroy qematos, opws aytoy ths antimetwpishs ths tromokratias. Otan h pragmatika sobarh prospaqeia poy ginetai anagnwrizetai apo tis kybernhseis olwn twn xwrwn, me ton pleon panhgyriko tropo- edw kapoioi epixeiroyn na to metatrecoyn eite se sooy, eite se qeama, eite prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn nefh sthn politikh zwh toy topoy mas. Einai safes oti kai h kybernhsh kai to PASOK kai ta stelexh toy kai oloi mas, ws fysika proswpa, qa antidrasoyme se aytoy toy eidoys tis logikes, poy epixeiroyn na emplejoyn enan politiko xwro -apo toys idioys malista poy ginotan ayth h prospaqeia edw kai 27 xronia- alla kai na perifroyrhsoyme thn ennoia ths atomikhs ajioprepeias kai ths proswpikothtas toy kaqenos mas.

Me thn eykairia ayth qa hqela na pw, epishs, oti den prosferei kalh yphresia kai to komma ths Neas Dhmokratias me th synexizomenh siwph toy apenanti se aytoy toy eidoys tis energeies, poy ofeiloyme oloi me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo na tis katadikazoyme kai oxi na tis aposiwpoyme h na tis anexomaste emmesws, epeidh mporei kapoioi na exoyn thn aisqhsh oti dhqen toys boleyei h toys ejyphretei.

Edw qa prepei na tonisoyme oti yphrje shmera kai ena allo olisqhma apo ena stelexos ths N.D., to opoio epaneilhmmena exei probei se tetoies energeies. Kai anaferomai ston ypeyqyno tomearxh ths N.D. Byrwna Polydwra, o opoios se shmerinh toy synenteyjh ston "ANT1", eipe oti to PASOK htan politiko kelyfos gia thn tromokratia, ypo thn ennoia ths dhmioyrgias antikeimenikwn synqhkwn gia na anqisei h tromokratia kai na drasoyn oi tromokrates. Kai prosqese, kati ejisoy epikindyno: oti yparxei ena aorato xeri -profanws ennowntas to idio komma- to opoio empodizei na syllhfqoyn oi tromokrates kai na ejaleifqei h tromokratia. Bebaiws, o k. Polydwras phre apanthsh gia ta qemata ayta apo ton paristameno sthn idia syzhthsh yfypoyrgo Typoy kai MME Thlemaxo Xythrh. Alla, edw dhmioyrgeitai ena erwthma: Poia einai telika h qesh ths N.D.; Otan o ypeyqynos tomearxhs isxyrizetai oti to PASOK apotelese politiko kelyfos gia thn tromokratia ti exei na pei gi` ayto to komma toy; An h N.D. synexisei na kalyptei ton k. Polydwra shmainei oti yioqetei aytes tis apoceis kai ara ginetai synypeyqynh me ekeinoys poy epixeiroyn na emplejoyn to PASOK me thn tromokratia kai th drash ths. Kai ayto qa htan epikindyno gia thn politikh zwh. Thn kaloyme na parei amesa qesh.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti qa htan enisxytiko twn oswn eipate, ean enhmerwnate thn koinh gnwmh sto ejhs erwthma moy, poy an qelete to apantate: H ellhnikh kybernhsh gnwrizei ayta ta stoixeia twn jenwn yphresiwn poy anaferontai sto sygkekrimeno qema ths tromokratias h den ta gnwrizei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti gnwrizei h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai bebaiws mporei na to apodeijei, einai sta xeria twn dikastikwn arxwn.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Dhladh, to teleytaio xroniko diasthma ayta ta stoixeia poy bghkan sth dhmosiothta kai amfisbhtoyntai apo esas, bebaiws kai apo polloys alloys...

PRWTOPAPAS: Poia stoixeia; Den eida kanena stoixeio. Ektos ki an ennoeite ws stoixeio to aytokinhto, to opoio anhkei se yphresia ths Nomarxias Peiraia poy htan staqmeymeno sto xwro.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oxi, anaferqhkan polles fores se thleoptikes ekpompes kai dhmosieymata h plhrofories oti oi jenes yphresies kai eidikotera h Skotlant Giarnt, gnwrizei polla stoixeia kai erwtatai ean o k. Xrysoxoidhs ta gnwrizei ayta h den ta gnwrizei.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti stoixeia gnwrizoyn oi yphresies twn jenwn xwrwn poy synergasthkan mazi mas, ta gnwrizoyn kai oi dikes mas yphresies. Kai na eiste bebaios oti ta exoyn hdh ajiopoihsei.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den amfibalw gi ayto. Aplws, qa hqela kai to eipa kai ston prologo moy, enisxytika, ean nomizete oti o k. Xrysoxoidhs qa mporoyse na dialysei aytes tis fhmes kai ta paramyqia, kanontas mia dhlwsh kai legontas oti ayta ta stoixeia ta gnwrizei h kybernhsh h oxi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan kanei dhlwsh o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos einai safes oti exei synennohqei kai me ton k. Xrysoxoidh. Ola ta stoixeia -ta stoixeia omws, kai oxi ta myqeymata- ta opoia gnwrizoyn oi arxes twn jenwn xwrwn, ta gnwrizoyn kai oi dikes mas yphresies, dioti synergazontai stena. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti mporoyme na apokaloyme ``stoixeia'', myqeymata, paramyqia kai alles istories poy orismenoi periferomenoi emfanizoyn se thleoptika paraqyra. Allo to ena kai allo to allo.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Anaferomai sta stoixeia. Ean oi jenes yphresies gnwrizoyn perissotera apo emas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Akoysame aytes tis hmeres paramyqia, poy eite aforoysan ton k. Tsoyra, eite aforoysan ton k. Papadopoylo, eite alla stelexh...

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oxi apo emena.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi apo esas. Alla, arketa eipwqhkan.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sxoliasete, ean sas anhsyxei to gegonos oti sth dhmoskophsh poy dhmosieyqhke xqes sto ``BHMA'', to 75% twn erwthqentwn apanta qetika, ligotero h perissotero, oti qa enhmerwne tis arxes ean gnwrize poy krybetai o katazhtoymenos Koyfontinas. Ws koinwniko stoixeio, sas rwtw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to qewrw apolyta fysiko. Einai enas anqrwpos, o opoios talaipwrhse th xwra, thn oikonomia, ton toyrismo ths, ta politika kommata kai mas talaipwrei akoma. Einai enas anqrwpos, poy skotwse, me ton pio cyxro tropo, synanqrwpoys mas. Einai enas anqrwpos poy dolofonhse kai epiprosqeta den htan mono gia ideologikoys logoys, ej oswn toylaxiston katalabainw apo ta stoixeia ths dikografias. Den einai logiko enan tetoio anqrwpo, na qelei o kaqe poliths na symballei, prokeimenoy na paradoqei stis arxes asfaleias kai na ejixniastei kai to teleytaio kommati, to opoio piqanws na afora o,ti exei sxesh me th 17N; Gia poio logo na mhn symballei o kaqe poliths; Den to qewrw deigma synthrhshs. Kaqe allo.

KWNSTANTHS: Ki egw gia th dhmoskophsh qelw na rwthsw, alla se o,ti afora thn proqesh chfoy kai thn edraiwsh, pagiwsh mias diaforas anamesa sta dyo kommata, para to kalo klima poy eixe dhmioyrghqei gia thn kybernhsh, meta to qema ths tromokratias.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti exw topoqethqei, kat epanalhch, apo ayto to bhma kai pro mhnwn kai prosfata, gia to qema twn dhmoskophsewn kai metrhsewn. Exw pei kai to epanalambanw kai shmera, oti kaqe dhmoskophsh h metrhsh exei th dikh ths ajia kai anamfibola bohqa na ejaxqoyn polytima gia th doyleia mas symperasmata. Opws, omws, apodeiknyetai kai apo thn idia thn ejelijh twn dhmoskophsewn, ekeino poy exei th megalyterh shmasia einai to ergo mas. Ayto diamorfwnei tis dhmoskophseis kai ayto dinei tis telikes nikes stis ekloges. Ara, emeis asxoloymaste me to ergo mas kai ekei exoyme rijei to baros.

GARGALAKOS: Ep` aytoy, yparxei ena stoixeio ths dhmoskophshs poy afora tis prowres ekloges kai diapistwnetai oti symfwna me ayto to eyrhma panw apo to 60% twn erwthqentwn, den epiqymoyn prowres ekloges. Qelete na to ajiologhsete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai gnwsto oti ayto to fainomeno yparxei se oles tis dhmoskophseis. O ellhnikos laos den epiqymei prowres ekloges. Epiqymei na proxwrhsei to ergo gia to opoio exei desmeyqei h kybernhsh toy PASOK. Ayto shmainei oti emeis ekei prepei na strecoyme thn prosoxh mas ki ekei na apanthsoyme stis agwnies kai tis apaithseis toy ellhnikoy laoy. Apo emas perimenei o ellhnikos laos kai apo to ergo mas qa kriqoyme.

ARGYROS: Exei syllhfqei o k. Androylidakhs gia xreh pros to Dhmosio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw an egine shmera kati tetoio, alla ayta aforoyn tis arxes Asfaleias.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw ean egine shmera. Den gnwrizw ean exete eseis kapoia allh plhroforia. Ayto, omws, poy lew se kaqe periptwsh einai oti den eimaste emeis ypeyqynoi gia tis syllhceis.

MPOYATAR: Ti apanta h kybernhsh stis dhlwseis twn Giatrwn toy Kosmoy, gia tis aqlies synqhkes poy zoyn peripoy 800 laqrometanastes sth Qrakh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H organwsh "Giatroi toy Kosmoy" exei dikaiwma na kanei kaqe anafora. H Ellada den einai mia xwra poy empodizei eite thn eleyqerh diakinhsh, eite akomh kai thn opoiasdhpote morfhs paroysia dieqnwn kai mh kybernhtikwn organwsewn sto eswteriko ths. Se alles xwres apagoreyetai ayto. Sth dikh mas xwra den apagoreyetai. Exei dikaiwma na erqei opoios qelei kai na kanei tis ekqeseis toy, anejarthta apo th barythta poy exoyn aytes oi ekqeseis. Oydepote isxyristhkame oti oi synqhkes poy antimetwpizoyn oi laqrometanastes, poy eishlqan prosfata mazika sth xwra mas apo thn perioxh toy Ebroy, einai oi kalyteres, oyte oti oi synqhkes periqalchs toys einai oi idanikoteres. Antimetwpisame problhmata. Otan exeis na kaneis me toses ekatontades anqrwpoys jafnika, oi opoioi paranoma eishlqan sth xwra mas kai poy prepei na toys prosfereis stegh kai periqalch -panta yparxei anqrwpismos, giati prepei na kalyceis tis prwtes anagkes toys- bebaiws antimetwpizeis ek twn pragmatwn dyskolies. Ayto einai logiko, afoy kaneis den gnwrize gi` ayto ton "aifnidiasmo" kai to kratos den htan katallhla proetoimasmeno. Qelw na sas diabebaiwsw, omws, oti ginetai diarkhs prospaqeia beltiwshs twn synqhkwn diabiwshs kai periqalchs toys. Bebaiws, yparxei ena genikotero qema me thn periptwsh twn laqrometanastwn, poy ofeiloyme na to antimetwpisoyme. Pantws, oi synqhkes periqalchs laqrometanastwn sthn Ellada einai poly kalyteres apo antistoixes synqhkes se alles xwres. Epishs qelw na parathrhsw oti, opws qa qymaste, se oles tis ekqeseis twn dieqnwn organwsewn sto qema ths dhmokratias kai ths eleyqerias, h Ellada ejakoloyqei na einai prwth.

GARGALAKOS: Mhpws qa qelate na sxoliasete th dhlwsh toy k. Roysopoyloy, sxetika me to kyma ths akribeias kai thn kathgoria poy ejapelyse oti thn kyria eyqynh gia thn katastash poy exei dhmioyrghqei th ferei apokleistika h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes oti h N.D. apo thn arxh epixeirei, me kaqe tropo, na "aqwwsei" kapoioys gia ta kroysmata kerdoskopias kai aisxrokerdeias poy yphrjan. Ekane anafores mono se o,ti aforoyse to kratos kai oysiastika htan antiqeth, arnhqhke na anagnwrisei ta fainomena aisxrokerdeias kai kerdoskopias poy parathrhqhkan sthn agora. Katalabainoyme oti ayto eixe na kanei me tis ejarthseis kai ta symferonta poy ejyphretei h N.D., alla fysika den exei na kanei kaqoloy me thn pragmatikothta.

Me thn eykairia, epitrecte moy na pw, oti h kybernhsh, oyte einai yper, oyte kata ths ayrianhs symbolikhs kinhshs, oson afora to mpoikotaz. Kai ayto, giati ginetai apo mh kybernhtikes organwseis kai den prepei na parembainoyme sto ergo kai tis kinhseis toys. Wstoso, qelw na pw oti kaqe kinhsh poy ginetai mesa sthn koinwnia, kaqe kinhsh poy kaqodhgeitai apo aytonomes koinwnikes organwseis, kaqe kinhsh poy apoblepei sthn energopoihsh twn politwn gia thn yperaspish twn symferontwn toys, exei anamfibola th dikh ths ajia.

KARGOYDH: Zhtw thn ektimhsh ths kybernhshs, sxetika me th stash ths N.D., oson afora thn tromokratia. Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean nomizete oti prokeitai peri mias taktikhs poy exei orizonta tis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges kai ara taktikes kai grammes poy aforoyn th dejia paratajh kai endexomenws thn proselkysh chfoforwn h einai mia genikoterh politikh ths N.D.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan kapoios paizei en oy paiktois, to endiaferon den einai na to kanei gia tis dhmotikes h gia alles skopimothtes. To endiaferon kai to katadikasteo einai oti proseggizei me aneyqynothta ena qema sto opoio eprepe na kyriarxoyn oi ennoies "sobarothta" kai "eyqynh". Otan den apodokimazetai -epanalambanw- o k. Polydwras, o opoios kat` epanalhch, diaxwrizei th qesh toy apo thn epishmh grammh toy kommatos toy, oysiastika yioqeteitai apo to komma toy ayto to opoio exei dhlwsei. Dhladh, oysiastika yioqetoyntai apo to komma toy oi akraies kai epikindynes apoceis poy exei ekfrasei kai oi prospaqeies emplokhs kai pali stelexwn toy PASOK me thn tromokratia. Kala, den koyrasthkan 27 xronia na kanoyn to idio; Den koyrasthkan epi 27 xronia na kanoyn ayth thn prospaqeia; Twra poy blepoyn tis synexeis apokalyceis kai th sobarh kai ypeyqynh doyleia poy ginetai -kati to opoio epishmainoyn oloi oi dieqneis organismoi- den exoyn to qarros na poyn oti symballoyn se ayth thn energeia, para xrhsimopoioyn diglwssia. Alla lene oi epikefalhs, alla oi ypeyqynoi tomearxes, alla oi boyleytes. Den exoyn to qarros na bgoyn kai na poyn oti ayta ta opoia lene orismenoi "paramyqades" kai me ta opoia epiteqentai proswpika se stelexh toy PASOK, prepei na katadikastoyn. Den exoyn to qarros na poyn oti ayta poy leei o ypeyqynos tomearxhs einai ejw apo thn politikh toy kommatos kai den mporoyn na synexistoyn; Den exoyn to qarros -giati qa elega oti toys boleyei, toys ejyphretei- na akoloyqeitai ayth h meqodos. Ayto, omws, ofeiloyme na to epishmanoyme pros ton ellhniko lao, gia na gnwrizei me poioys exei na kanei.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Epeidh me dikh sas prwtoboylia exei ginei pollh syzhthsh shmera gia th qesh ths N.D., h kybernhsh qewrei oti h periptwsh toy k. Polydwra apotelei ...

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Polydwras den einai kapoios apo ejw...

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Afhste me na oloklhrwsw. An ayth h qesh toy k. Polydwra apotelei ena kroysma apeiqarxias sth N.D. h h kybernhsh qewrei oti prokeitai gia th dhmioyrgia enos sygkekrimenoy sxedioy, o k. Polydwras exei ena rolo, alloi poy kanoyn alles dhlwseis exoyn ena diaforetiko rolo, nomizw katalabainete ti qelw na pw...

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Polydwras dhlwse shmera oti "oloi erxontai sth qesh moy". Den gnwrizw apo poies syzhthseis ebgale o idios ayto to symperasma. Ayto den afora emas, afora ekeinoys. Alla, otan parathroyme epi tesseris h pente fores tis idies dhlwseis apo to boyleyth poy einai o ypeyqynos tomearxhs ths N.D., eseis mporeite na katalhjete sta dika sas symperasmata.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Epeidh eipate oti h N.D. qa prepei na apokhryjei osa stelexh ths xrhsimopoioyn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den xrhsimopoihsa ton oro "apokhryjh stelexwn".

PAPADOPOYLOS: Na katadikazoyn...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa, efoson den apodokimazei eyqews.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Thn idia taktikh akoloyqei to PASOK h h kybernhsh, otan diafora stelexh ths ekfrazoyn antiqeth gnwmh se diafora qemata apo thn epishmh grammh toy kommatos; Ta apodokimazei to PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: O k. Polydwras einai o ypeyqynos tomearxhs. Jerete ti shmainei tomearxhs;

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ma, kai oi ypeyqynoi toy PASOK exoyn polles fores ekfrasei tis diaforetikes apoceis toys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exete dei ypoyrgo tesseris-pente fores na einai antiqetos me th grammh ths kybernhshs; Den ginontai ayta ta pragmata. Oyte sto parelqon eixan ginei. Kai gnwrizete oti yphrjan paraithseis h apopompes ypoyrgwn. Ayto qelw na sas to qymisw. Den einai enas opoiosdhpote boyleyths, einai o ypeyqynos tomearxhs, gi` ayto to epishmainw.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean o k. Shmiths exei apofasisei na epibrabeysei ton k. Xrysoxoidh kai na ton topoqethsei grammatea toy kommatos.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kala kanete kai rwtate, giati prepei na dinetai ena telos se tetoies syzhthseis, prin kan jekinhsoyn. O k. Shmiths ektima idiaitera th doyleia poy exei ginei sto ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs. Ejalloy, to exei tonisei ayto. Omws, ayta poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas to Sabbato den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Mhn epixeiroyme, loipon, na dhmioyrghsoyme problhmata ekei poy den yparxoyn.

Thn Paraskeyh (6/9), logw ths metabashs toy kybernhtikoy klimakioy sth Qessalonikh gia ta egkainia ths Dieqnoys Ekqeshs, den qa pragmatopoihqei h enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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