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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Ioylioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, einai ikanopoihmenh h kybernhsh apo th xqesinh kinhtopoihsh toy kratikoy mhxanismoy, giati eidame pleista problhmata. Kai edw akomh sto kentro yparxoyn kleistoi dromoi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, qelw na ekfrasw th lyph mas gia to synanqrwpo mas poy xaqhke, kata th diarkeia ths xqesinhs neroponths apo thn ptwsh enos toixoy.

Oson afora thn erwthsh sas, prepei na shmeiwsoyme oti h xqesinh neroponth htan ena idiaitera entono kairiko fainomeno. Yphrje mia jafnikh kataigida poy dhmioyrghse problhmata kai bebaiws odhghse kai se talaipwria twn politwn poy etyxe ayth thn wra na breqoyn stoys dromoys. H kataigida ayth eplhje idiaitera orismenes perioxes, opws ekeines toy Mosxatoy kai toy Renth.

Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw einai oti den yphrje proeidopoihsh gi` ayto to toso entono jafniko kairiko fainomeno. Kai ayto giati, opws mas dhlwse h Metewrologikh Yphresia, idiaitera kata toys kalokairinoys mhnes, einai poly dyskolo na yparjei akribhs problech gia thn ekdhlwsh tetoiwn fainomenwn. Omws, amesws molis ekdhlwqhke to fainomeno ayto, yphrje amesh, plhrhs kai syntonismenh kinhtopoihsh oloy toy kratikoy mhxanismoy. Oloi oi armodioi ypoyrgoi kinhqhkan amesws. Kai apo to ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn kai th Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias kai apo to YPEXWDE kai apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs kai thn Troxaia elhfqhsan ola ta anagkaia metra. Gnwrizete, epishs, oti kai stelexh ths kybernhshs breqhkan epi topoy kata th diarkeia twn problhmatwn kai twn katastrofwn poy yphrjan. Gnwrizete akomh oti arxise amesws h katagrafh twn zhmiwn, wste na xorhghqoyn, xwris xronotribh, oi sxetikes apozhmiwseis.

Qelw na ypogrammisw oti to megalytero problhma paroysiasthke ston Khfiso. H diatomh toy Khfisoy einai mikrh se sxesh me thn entash ths broxhs kai yperxeilise. Etsi paroysiasthkan idiaitera problhmata stis perioxes toy Mosxatoy kai toy Renth.

Hdh, opws jerete, sthn perioxh ayth kataskeyazetai ena poly megalo antiplhmmyriko ergo. Kai se ola ta megala erga poy ginontai ayth th stigmh, kataskeyazontai erga antiplhmmyrikhs prostasias. Eidika, omws, sthn perioxh toy Khfisoy kataskeyazetai ena poly megalo antiplhmmyriko ergo, to opoio den exei oloklhrwqei kai to gegonos ths mh oloklhrwshs twn ergwn synebale sthn ojynsh twn problhmatwn poy prokalese h xqesinh jafnikh neroponth. Einai ena ergo pollwn dekadwn disekatommyriwn draxmwn, to opoio, opws dhlwse o k. Tsaklidhs, qa exei oloklhrwqei to fqinopwro toy 2003. Me to ergo ayto den qa yparxei pleon kanena problhma apo tetoia fainomena. Den leme oti to ergo "qa ginei". To ergo ginetai kai qa einai etoimo sto xroniko diasthma poy prosdioristhke apo tis armodies arxes. Exoyn ektelestei ta erga se mhkos epta xiliometrwn kai apomenei na oloklhrwqoyn ta erga se mhkos triwn xiliometrwn.

IWANNOY: Shmera, akoysame oti h EMY den xarakthrise akraio to xqesino fainomeno, th xqesinh neroponth kai o kosmos, opws kai eseis qa akoysate, exei bareqei pleon na akoyei oti se akraia kairika fainomena den mporei na diaswsei, oyte thn perioysia toy, oyte toys eaytoys toys. Ektos apo ton Khfiso kai ston Kolwno eixame idia problhmata. Xaqhkan perioysies, apo o,ti eidame kai akoysame shmera. Kai se spitia kai se magazia yphrxan ektetamenes katastrofes. Qelw na mas epibebaiwsete an ontws h EMY den xarakthrise akraio kairiko fainomeno th xqesinh neroponth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, milhsa gia ena dyskolo kai aifnidiastiko kairiko fainomeno. Kai ayto htan. Den yphrxe proeidopoihsh apo kanenan. Breqhkame mprosta se mia megalh, entonh kai apotomh neroponth, h opoia, opws xarakthristika eipe o k. Skandalidhs xqes, eixe ws apotelesma na pesoyn para polla kybika neroy kai malista mesa se elaxistes wres. Htan ena entono kai apotomo fainomeno mesa se ena qermo mhna. Yphrje amesh kinhtopoihsh kai kaneis den mporei na to amfisbhthsei ayto. Kinhtopoihqhkan oles oi armodies arxes kai malista syntonismena. Yphrje epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys, amesws molis ekdhlwqhke h kataigida.

Qelw na epanalabw oti ta megalytera problhmata paroysiasthkan ston Khfiso kai tis perioxes toy Mosxatoy kai toy Renth, logw twn megalwn antiplhmmyrikwn ergwn poy ginontai ekei, ta opoia, omws, den exoyn teleiwsei. Prepei, omws, na sas pw oti den xaqhkan perioysies. Ayth th stigmh katagrafontai oi zhmies kai qa yparjoyn apozhmiwseis se oloys toys plhgentes, eite aytoi einai memonwmena atoma poy epaqan zhmies sta spitia toys, eite einai epaggelmaties poy epaqe kapoia zhmia h epaggelmatikh toys stegh. Qa yparxei plhrhs apozhmiwsh. Hdh, dinontai oi prwtes 200 xiliades draxmes gia thn kalych twn ameswn anagkwn. Epomenws, den qa xaqoyn perioysies, giati qa yparjoyn oles oi anagkaies apozhmiwseis. H Politeia merimnhse kai merimna amesa gi` ayto.

MIXAHL: To qema einai oti kanoyme ena megalo antiplhmmyriko ergo kai prosejte ti symbainei: To kataskeyazete kai symbainoyn ola ayta. Skefteite ti qa synebaine an den ginotan to ergo ayto. Para tayta, qelw na rwthsw to ejhs@

PRWTOPAPAS: Epitrecte moy mia diakoph. Otan ginetai ena ergo, ta problhmata megeqynontai kai katalabainete to giati. Otan kataskeyazetai ena ergo, thn periodo ayth, dhmioyrgoyntai kapoia problhmata. Otan, omws, to ergo teleiwsei, antimetwpizontai ola ayta ta problhmata. Ayto symbainei me ola ta erga. Etsi, kai alla erga poy aforoyn megales perioxes kai megales parembaseis, opws ayto toy Khfisoy, otan einai sthn ejelijh toys, enteinoyn ta problhmata. Ayto, omws, ti shmainei; Shmainei, omws, oti toy xronoy tetoio kairo poy to ergo toy Khfisoy qa oloklhrwnetai, sto synolo toy, qa eimaste apolytws sigoyroi oti den qa antimetwpisoyme pali tetoia fainomena.

MIXAHL: Omws, exoyme dei se mia seira megalwn ergwn kai oxi mono sth xqesinh neroponth, kai alloy poy dhmioyrghqhkan terastia problhmata, elleich enallaktikoy sxediasmoy. Kai jerete oti mia polh san thn Aqhna, me ola ta problhmata poy synantaei pia, ofeilei na skeftei kai ton polith, oso diasthma leitoyrgei to ergo. To ergo mporei na einai pragmati kalo kai otan ginei qa einai kalo, alla mexri tote den payei h polh na zei, den payei na leitoyrgei. Synepws, h elleich enallaktikhs strathgikhs apo pleyras toy sxediasmoy sas exei problhmatisei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn oles oi enallaktikes dynatothtes kai aytes efarmosthkan, alla otan h diatomh toy Khfisoy einai mikrh kai peftei apotoma toso nero, dhmioyrgeitai ayto to fainomeno. Ayto, omws, to fainomeno den qa epanalambanetai sto mellon, dioti ta erga pragmatopoioyntai kai qa teleiwsoyn se sygkekrimeno xroniko diasthma. Poia htan h allh lysh; Na steiloyme ta nera alloy h na allajoyme to potami; Den ginontai ayta. Ola ta problhmata antimetwpisthkan kai antimetwpizontai. Teqhkan amesws se egrhgorsh oles oi dhmosies arxes kai malista me syntonismeno tropo.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Wstoso, ypotiqetai oti o Khfisos qwrakizetai antiplhmmyrika, epi dekaeties. Gia tis kaqysterhseis sthn oloklhrwsh aytwn twn ergwn den eyqynetai kanenas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe ergo exei ta problhmata toy kai profanws den einai eykola ta erga poy ginontai sto Lekanopedio kai idiaitera se katoikhmenes perioxes. Ayto to gnwrizete poly kala. Omws, ta antiplhmmyrika erga toy Khfisoy den einai erga 10etias. Den einai opws to lete. To ergo exei proxwrhsei, exoyn kalyfqei, hdh, eji-epta xiliometra, apomenoyn akoma tria xiliometra, opws anefere o armodios Yfypoyrgos PEXWDE Giannhs Tsaklidhs kai qa oloklhrwqoyn mexri to Fqinopwro toy 2003. Den prokeitai , loipon, gia ergo poy parapempetai stis kalendes h kaqysterei. Malista -opws anefere kai o k. Tsaklidhs kai ayto prepei na sas to ypenqymisw- to ergo qa arxisei na apodidetai stadiaka, kai to Fqinopwro toy 2003 qa exoyme thn plhrh oloklhrwsh toy.

KAPPOS: Einai dynato ena antiplhmmyriko ergo oysiastika na afhnei ``mpaza'', na afhnei o,ti ylika yparxoyn mesa sth mesh toy potamoy; Kai ayto poy rwtw einai to ejhs: Einai dynato kata th diarkeia enos ergoy, poy kapoia stigmh qa brejei, qa plhmmyrisei h qa ginei otidhpote, na mhn yparxei ayto poy rwtoyn oi synadelfoi, o sxediasmos; Kai deyteron: Tis teleytaies 10eties brexei exoyme plhmmyres kai, ligo-poly, exoyme entopisei ta shmeia, sta opoia exoyme katastrofes. O Kolwnos den plhmmyrise gia prwth fora. Plhmmyres kai zhmies den eixame mono sthn perioxh toy Renth h gyrw apo ton Khfiso. Eixame kai se polla alla shmeia ths Aqhnas. Prolhch gia ola ayta ta shmeia ths Aqhnas yparxei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti ginontai para polla erga, akribws gia na prolaboyme ola ayta ta fainomena. Arxikoi sxediasmoi yparxoyn, anaptyjh ergwn yparxei, proodos sta erga yparxei, ola ginontai. Mhn jexname oti to fainomeno ayto ekdhlwqhke entelws aifnidiastika. Exei megalh shmasia ayto. Kata ta alla, to armodio ypoyrgeio enhmerwnei synexws gia ayta ta zhthmata. Edw kanoyme politikh syzhthsh.

KAPPOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw gia ena ergo poy hdh exei ginei kai milw gia to METRO. Qa anazhthsete eyqynes gia to gegonos oti plhmmyrisan oi staqmoi;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epikoinwnhsa me to ``ATTIKO METRO'' kai ap` o,ti moy aneferan yphrxe mia aifnidiastikh, apotomh eisodos neroy, poy espase kai tis portes asfaleias. Yphrje ena akraio, dyskolo, apotomo kai aproeidopoihto kairiko fainomeno. Mphkan megales mazes neroy sto METRO. O anqrwpinos paragwn exei ta oria toy. Espasan oi portes asfaleias kai ayto egine se ena mono staqmo toy METRO. Apo kei kai pera, qelw na sas epishmanw kati: Qa prosejate -epeidh milate gia sxediasmo- oti yphrje enas entypwsiaka qetikos sxediasmos ston tropo poy leitoyrghse to synolo twn astikwn sygkoinwniwn kai prepei na epishmanoyme kai ta qetika. Yphrje amesh symplhrwmatikothta. Opoy dhmioyrgeito problhma se ena sygkoinwniako meso, erxotan ena allo na kalycei to keno. Gia paradeigma, h EQEL dieqese eidika lewforeia gia na ejyphrethsoyn ton kosmo, sth grammh toy METRO, sthn opoia yphrje problhma. Kai bebaia, den yphrje problhma se oles tis grammes kai den mporei na miloyme genika gia to METRO. Yphrje problhma mono sto staqmo Attikhs kai to staqmo Larishs. H perioxh ekei einai idiaitera xamhlh -opws moy anefere o Proedros ths ``ATTIKO METRO''- kai, apo thn jafnikh broxoptwsh, dhmioyrghqhke sthn oysia potamos kai espasan oi portes asfaleias. Ti egine omws sth synexeia kai ayto qelw na to tonisw: Hrqan oi astikes sygkoinwnies, oi opoies den eixan problhma, kai ejyphrethsan toys polites. Yphrje sxediasmos kai amesh kinhtopoihsh. Kai ayto deixnei thn amesh kinhtopoihsh toy kratikoy mhxanismoy.

POYLIDOY: Apo tis dikes moy plhrofories, leitoyrghse etsi to systhma, opws lete, alla, oxi amesws. O kosmos brexotan epi mia wra, perimenontas se apognwsh na dei pws mporei na fygei apo th stash.

PRWTOPAPAS: Shmeiwste oti sthn arxh ths apotomhs neroponths, paroysiasthkan entona kykloforiaka problhmata. Antimetwpisthkan, omws, xarh sthn kinhtopoihsh ths troxaias. Otan peftei jafnika toso nero, sthn arxh paroysiazontai problhmata. Kinhtopoihqhkan oi mhxanismoi kai ta problhmata antimetwpisthkan.

POYLIDOY: H symplhrwmatikothta poy lete den leitoyrghse aytomatws...

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, den to gnwrizame, ean to gnwrizame qa eixe leitoyrghsei aytomatws.

POYLIDOY: To oti stamathse o hlektrikos sth Khfisia kai den metakinoyntan tipota, ayto eixe diapistwqei mia wra. Ayto poy lew einai oti kata th gnwmh olwn twn politwn osoi ypeferan xqes kai talaipwrhqhkan to systhma ayto ths symplhrwmatikothtas den leitoyrghse amesa kai prepei na beltiwqei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sebomai thn talaipwria twn politwn kai thn anagnwrisa sthn eisagwgikh parembash moy. Kaneis den thn arnhqhke. Zhthsame thn katanohsh twn politwn. Qelw, omws, na shmeiwsw oti mesa se mia wra, se ena jafniko fainomeno, yphrje plhrhs anaptyjh toy enallaktikoy sxediasmoy. Bebaiws, xreiazetai xrono ena meso na paei ekei. Den to exoyme sthn porta apo ejw. Prepei na fygei apo kapoio amajostasio gia na paei, ayto piqanon na qelei wra. Otan, loipon, se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma -kai to anagnwrizoyn oloi- leitoyrghse o symplhrwmatikos h enallaktikos sxediasmos, ayto einai poly shmantiko.

MPOTWNHS: Epeidh h Aqhna qa filojenhsei toys Olympiakoys Agwnes kai oxi mono, ayth h eikona katastrofhs poy eidame xqes sto kentro ths Aqhnas, pws leitoyrghsan ola ayta; Dhladh, oti den htan kaqarismena ta freatia, den ftaine kapoioi gi` ayto; Den prepei na to peite ayto; Poy qa anazhthqoyn eyqynes; Giati, mexri twra, den exete milhsei gia eyqynes, alla mono gia kinhtopoihsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw oti to prwto poy ofeilame na kanoyme htan h kinhtopoihsh kai na anadeijoyme mesa apo aythn ta erga poy ginontai. Dioti prepei na ta gnwrizei o kosmos. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, ean kapoios diapistwsei oti yparxoyn kapoy problhmata, den prokeitai na to krycoyme, giati den yparxei kamia tetoia proqesh apo kanenan. O skopos einai na to diapistwsoyme. Kai gnwrizete oti den eimaste oi monoi armodioi gia ta freatia. Exoyn eyqynh kai oi Dhmoi. Alla, den mporw ayth th stigmh na pw, kata periptwsh, ti exei ginei. Sas plhroforw oti yphrjan kai parembaseis anqrwpwn ths Aytodioikhshs, opws ths kas Mpesmpea, h opoia milhse xqes gia eyqynes sygkekrimenwn Dhmwn. Eidate oti panw se ayto den biasthka na apanthsw, giati profanws xreiazetai mia ereyna. Den mporei mesa se merikes wres na exeis mia plhrh eikona toy an yphrxan h den yphrxan eyqynes kai poies einai aytes. Gia ekeino, omws, poy eprepe na sas enhmerwsw to ekana kai htan oi kateyqynseis ths kinhtopoihshs toy kratikoy mhxanismoy kai ta problhmata poy syndeontai me ta erga. Bebaiws, opoiadhpote eyqynh yparxei, qa anagnwristei kai qa katagrafei. Ayto einai safes.

MPOTWNHS: Jeroyn, omws, na ta pairnoyn....

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw ayth th stigmh na dhmioyrghsw antidikies. O skopos einai na doylecoyme gia ton polith kai kaqe fora na mporoyme na antapokrinomaste kalytera sta problhmata, ejyphretwntas ton polith kai meiwnontas thn talaipwria toy.

IWANNOY: Me ta akinhta, ti qa ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa xasei kaneis thn perioysia toy. Hdh, me poly grhgoro ryqmo katagrafontai oi zhmies kai qa yparjei kalych twn zhmiwn aytwn, eite prokeitai gia spitia, eite gia epaggelmatikh stegh. Se ayta ta zhthmata, gnwrizete oti yparxei nomoqesia poy anagnwrizei apozhmiwsh kai gia ta spitia kai gia thn epaggelmatikh stegh kai ta tyxon emporeymata k.t.l. Ginetai katagrafh kai qa yparjei sxetikh anagnwrish. Hdh, dinontai 200.000 draxmes gia thn kalych twn ameswn anagkwn twn anqrwpwn poy ypesthsan problhmata apo tis plhmmyres.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw, sxetika me to qema ths tromokratias. Xqes, akoysame apo ton thleoptiko staqmo "ALTER", oti synelhfqh ektelesths ths 17N sto Strasboyrgo. Exete kati ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxoyn syllhceis. To exoyme tonisei ayto, kat` epanalhch. Otan yparjoyn syllhceis, qa anakoinwqoyn armodiws. Ayth th stigmh den exoyme.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Sto Strasboyrgo exoyme prosagwges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti den prepei na mpainoyme, edw toylaxiston, se epixeirhsiaka zhthmata. Ayto poy mas endiaferei politika na poyme einai oti ginontai ereynes kai piqanon kai kapoies prosagwges, kata periodoys, akribws gia na dieykolynqoyn aytes oi ereynes. Apo ekei kai pera, syllhceis den exoyme kai nomizw oti prepei na meinoyme edw.

MIXAHL: H apanthsh sas einai oti den yparxoyn syllhceis. Ennoeite sthn Ellada. Den gnwrizete ti ginetai...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxoyn syllhceis gia tis opoies mporoyme na topoqethqoyme emeis.

IWANNOY: Sto Strasboyrgo yparxoyn prosagwges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean ennoeite sxetika me thn ypoqesh ths 17N, gia na eimaste safeis, sas epanalambanw oti den yparxoyn syllhceis. Epanalambanw oti den qa mpw sto epixeirhsiako meros. Oi ereynes proxwroyn. Kapoies stigmes xreiazetai na ginoyn kai prosagwges. Ola ayta ta zhthmata einai meros ths ereynas poy diejagetai. Kai den nomizw oti mporw na topoqethqw gia to poy ginetai h poion afora h giati akribws ginetai. Ayta aforoyn tis armodies arxes. Otan kai ean yparjoyn syllhceis, qa enhmerwqeite armodiws.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Epeidh eipate kai eseis oti edw kanoyme mia politikh syzhthsh, qewreite oti to teleytaio diasthma oi diwktikes arxes leitoyrgoyn ypo kaqestws ayjhmenhs pieshs apo polles pleyres kai an ayto exei ephreasei to ergo toys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi armodies arxes, eidika se tetoia zhthmata, gnwrizoyn poly kala th doyleia toys. Ejalloy, einai kai eidika ekpaideymenes gia na leitoyrghsoyn se ayto to idiaitero kai idiomorfo kaqestws. Kanoyn th doyleia toys me ton tropo poy aytes epilegoyn, xwris na dexontai kamia piesh. Qa prepei oloi ayto na to katanohsoyme kai na toys afhsoyme na kanoyn, me ton kalytero dynato tropo, th doyleia toys.

GKOYZANHS: Alhqeyei h plhroforia oti xqes proshxqh mazi me th mhtera toy o 11xronos gios toy Jhroy kai anakriqhke;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw kai den mporw na topoqetoyme se epixeirhsiaka zhthmata poy aforoyn tis ereynes.

GKOYZANHS: Den einai epixeirhsiako. Kai an moy epitrepete na to genikeysw...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den anakrinetai paidi.

GKOYZANHS: Proshxqh, omws;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oyte prosagetai, oyte anakrinetai paidi. Sas plhroforw, omws, oti den mporw na gnwrizw kai den prepei na gnwrizw ti akribws ginetai se epixeirhsiako pedio. Sas to lew ayto, gia oles tis periptwseis.

GKOYZANHS: Se ayth thn ypoqesh ths tromokratias, oi polites h oi syggeneis twn tromokratwn poy qa breqoyn sthn poreia, exoyn dikaiwmata;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai mia politikh erwthsh kai apantw eyqews politika. Yparxei entolh na thrhqoyn apolyta, kata gramma, to Syntagma, oi nomoi kai olh h ennoia toy kratoys dikaioy.

GKOYZANHS: O dikhgoros toy Jhroy, hdh, exei qesei qema parabiashs twn dikaiwmatwn toy me thn katarghsh toy 8hmeroy; Yparxei kati apo thn Kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eimaste safeis. Den yparxei, ayth th stigmh, kanena problhma parabiashs toy nomoy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Epanerxomai sto qema ths prosagwghs ths mhteras toy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti den to gnwrizw.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: To jerw oti den to gnwrizete. Alla, bghke sthn kratikh thleorash h prwhn gynaika toy Jhroy kai eipe oti xqes, mera meshmeri, mesa sto Galatsi, epesan panw ths oi astynomikoi kai phran to paidi kai thn idia kai to krathsan panw apo 12 wres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Xwris na mporw na gnwrizw ta epixeirhsiaka zhthmata, dioti den mporoyme na anakateyqoyme sto ergo twn Arxwn Asfaleias -alimono an kanoyme tetoio laqos kai ayto nomizw to katalabainete oloi- epanalambanw oti h safhs entolh -kai ayto ginetai kai qa ginetai- einai h plhrhs thrhsh kai toy pneymatos kai toy grammatos twn oswn problepoyn to Syntagma, oi nomoi kai h ennoia toy kratoys dikaioy, sthn opoia einai dedomenh h baqia pisth mas.

MPOTWNHS: Oi gallikes astynomikes arxes exoyn synergasia me tis ellhnikes astynomikes arxes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Synergazomaste me opoion prepei, se epipedo dhmosiwn arxwn h arxwn asfaleias allwn xwrwn, kai me opoion ektimhsoyme oti xreiazetai na synergastoyme gi` ayth thn terastia eyqynh poy exoyme analabei.

KAPPOS: Xqes, apo pleyra toy Steit Ntipartment, epibebaiwqhke oti se epipedo metrwn asfaleias, h edw presbeia twn HPA einai se katastash ayjhmenoy synagermoy. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean apo thn pleyra twn HPA exei zhthqei ayjhmenh syndromh fylajhs apo tis ellhnikes arxes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw, alla einai logiko na yparxoyn ola ta anagkaia metra ayth thn periodo. Kai to katalabainete apolyta ayto. Einai mia idiaitera eyaisqhth periodos kai einai logiko na yparxei plhrhs egrhgorsh olwn twn arxwn asfaleias.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean eixate nea epikoinwnia me ton k. Androylidakh, dedomenoy oti ekei synexizontai ta problhmata...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eixa nea epikoinwnia.

ALEJAKHS: Anhsyxei h kybernhsh gia thn katastash politikhs krishs poy dierxetai h Toyrkia to teleytaio diasthma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa hqela na mhn paremboyme sta eswterika allwn xwrwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

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