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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Ianoyarioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ayth thn ebdomada.

Synedriazei, ayth th stigmh, h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, me antikeimeno ta symperasmata gia thn proodo ths olympiakhs proetoimasias kai se sxesh me thn episkech toy k. Osbalnt kai toy klimakioy ths DOE, alla kai gia th genikoterh proodo ths olympiakhs proetoimasias. Stis 9 to brady, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parakaqisei se deipno toy Syndesmoy Epixeirhsewn Plhroforikhs, opoy kai qa milhsei.

Thn Trith, stis 09.45, qa exei synergasia me ton Ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs K. Skandalidh. Stis 11, o Prwqypoyrgos, synodeyomenos apo thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias, qa episkefqei to Olympiako Xwrio, to opoio, opws gnwrizete, kataskeyazetai me thn eyqynh ths qygatrikhs etairias toy Organismoy Ergatikhs Katoikias. Einai ena poly shmantiko ergo gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, to opoio, oxi mono qa xrhsimopoihqei gia thn olympiakh proetoimasia, alla qa einai ena ergo idiaiterhs koinwnikhs eyaisqhsias gia to Lekanopedio, dioti sth synexeia, meta toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, qa ginoyn ekei peripoy 2.300 protypes ergatikes katoikies. Meta thn episkech toy sto xwro toy Olympiakoy Xwrioy kai to Ergotajio, qa anaxwrhsei gia tis Bryjelles.

Thn Tetarth, sth belgikh prwteyoysa, qa exei thn eykairia na synanthqei me ton k. Pronti kai sth synexeia qa exei synanthsh kai syzhthsh me to legomeno "Kolegio twn Epitropwn", dhladh, me thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph. Sto plaisio ths episkechs toy qa exei thn eykairia na milhsei kai me ton Epitropo gia thn agrotikh paragwgh k. Fisler. Meta apo tis synanthseis aytes, o k. Shmiths qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy stis Bryjelles.

Thn Pempth, qa milhsei sto Eyrwpaiko Kolegio sto Mpriz, me qema to mellon ths Eyrwphs kai tis prooptikes ths synoxhs. H epistrofh qa ginei to brady ths idias hmeras.

Thn Paraskeyh, opws gnwrizete, yparxei h ekkremothta twn erwthsewn sth Boylh. Den exoyn ypoblhqei akomh oi erwthseis. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh kai thn Epitroph gia to Eyrw. Qa ginei o apologismos toy prwtoy mhna eisagwghs toy Eyrw sthn Ellada. Piqanotata h synanthsh na ginei sto Zappeio. Amesws meta to peras ths synanthshs qa yparjei dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Stis 14.00, qa exei programmatikh synanthsh me thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Typoy & MME, sthn opoia qa syzhthqei to nomoqetiko ergo toy Ypoyrgeioy.

Thn erxomenh Deytera (4/02), stis 11.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthsh gia thn proetoimasia ths episkechs toy sth Roymania. Stis 12.30, qa synanthqei me to Grammatea toy PASOK K. Laliwth kai qa syzhthsoyn thn proetoimasia ths synedriashs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy, poy qa pragmatopoihqei thn idia hmera, stis 19.00.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Gnwrizete oti shmera arxizei o pemptos kyklos twn proswpo me proswpo synomiliwn sth Leykwsia, metajy toy k. Klhridh kai toy k. Ntenktas. H Leykwsia ayth th stigmh den endiaferetai toso gia to dialogo, oso gia tis nees ejelijeis poy exoyn yparjei kai tis nees amerikanikes pieseis tis opoies qa exete ypoch sas, prwta me to grafeio poy dhmioyrghsan sta katexomena kai meta me tis nees pieseis na aposyrei h kypriakh kybernhsh ta nea rwsika oplika systhmata poy exei parei teleytaia -milame gia kapoia aeroplana- kai malista leei o k. Mpatler poy metefere ayth thn amerikanikh qesh, na metaferqoyn se ellhniko edafos. Odhgoymaste se ena kainoyrgio laqos, opws eixe ginei me toys S-300; H men kypriakh kybernhsh, shmera to prwi, me dhlwseis toy k. Klhridh, eipe oti einai ametakinhth apo tis qeseis ths, alla qa hqela na maqw th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn shmerines dhlwseis toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Gl. Klhridh, o opoios malista diabebaiwse kai ton Proedro ths Boylhs k. Xristofia, oti den tiqetai qema piesewn ek meroys twn Amerikanwn gia na apodexqei h kypriakh kybernhsh thn apomakrynsh apo thn Kypro h thn axrhsia opoioydhpote oplikoy systhmatos. Bebaiws, h ellhnikh kybernhsh yposthrizei apolyta ayth thn parembash, aytes tis dhlwseis toy Proedroy Klhridh.

KOTTARIDHS: Qa hqela dyo sxolia, sxetika me tis apokalyceis toy Makh Triantafyllopoyloy xqes. Prwton, pws sxoliazete tis dhlwseis toy prwhn astynomikoy dieyqynth Axaias, o opoios ekane logo gia parembaseis sto ergo toy, poy ton odhghsan kai sthn apostrateysh apo to Swma. Kai deyteron, ena sxolio gia to gegonos oti emfanizontai prwhn kai nyn boyleytes na exoyn agorasei spitia se polykatoikia toy en logw epixeirhmatia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai pagia taktikh moy na mh sxoliazw zhthmata poy den exoyn na kanoyn me thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Epeidh, omws, exei teqei sth syneidhsh olwn ena zhthma, qelw na shmeiwsw oti, me prwtoboylia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, th meqepomenh Tetarth (6/02), stis 11 h wra, qa pragmatopoihqei, paroysia arketwn ypoyrgwn, eidikh syskech gia ta zhthmata ths antimetwpishs twn paranomwn paigniwn, opoiasdhpote morfhs, sthn Ellada.

KONTOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ayto shmainei oti h kybernhsh anagnwrizei oti yparxei synolikotero problhma kai xreiazontai prwtoboylies;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqe fora poy dhmioyrgeitai ena qema, einai logiko h kybernhsh na parembainei. Kaqe fora poy ginetai syzhthsh gia qema poy apasxolei toys Ellhnes, h kybernhsh prepei na ekdhlwnei thn parembash ths. Me ayth thn ennoia, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos phre thn prwtoboylia kai qa ejetasei ola ta sxetika zhthmata, se synergasia me toys synarmodioys ypoyrgoys, se qesmiko panta epipedo.

KONTOPOYLOS: Wstoso, o k. Xrysanqakopoylos, ektos apo to qema ths istorias me ta tyxera paixnidia, eixe proxwrhsei kai se kapoies apokalyceis, poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, oi opoies aforoysan alles drasthriothtes, opws thn istoria me to ASEP. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw sthn arxikh topoqethsh moy.

KALARITHS: Protiqetai h kybernhsh na xrhsimopoihsei astynomikes dynameis, prokeimenoy na apotrecei to endexomeno kleisimo twn dromwn apo toys agrotes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto qema twn agrotwn qelw na epanelqw se orismena shmeia, ta opoia eipa kai sthn topoqethsh moy thn Paraskeyh. Kata th diarkeia toy Sabbatokyriakoy, htan ti qa ginei gyrw apo to an ta trakter kleisoyn h oxi toys dromoys. Prin pame ekei, qelw na tonisw oti yparxoyn orismena problhmata oysias. Exoyme pei, kat epanalhch, oti h kybernhsh sebetai idiaitera ta problhmata, ta aithmata toy agrotikoy kosmoy. Prospaqhsame -kai prospaqhsame me idiaiterh entash- parembainontas kai sthn E.E., alla kai ejantlwntas ta periqwria mas se eqniko epipedo, na dwsoyme lyseis se ayta ta problhmata. Ws apotelesma aytwn twn prospaqeiwn exoyme ejasfalisei idiaitera qetikes times gia to bambaki. Gnwrizete oti diamorfwnetai mia genika kalh eikona, oti proxwra h syllogh toy bambakioy kai oti elpizoyme kai ektimoyme, me bash ta mexri twra dedomena, oti h timh toy bambakioy ana kilo qa yperbei tis 300 draxmes. Qa exoyme ena idiaitera qetiko apotelesma gia ton Ellhna agroth. Kai ayto den proekyce tyxaia. Einai apotelesma prospaqeiwn, doyleias poy egine kai parembasewn kai toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Gewrgias se ola ta epipeda. H kybernhsh sebetai ta problhmata toy agrotikoy kosmoy. Agwnizetai gia na ta antimetwpisei qetika. Exei petyxei shmantika qetikes times, idiaitera gia to bambaki. Qa yperbei tis 300 draxmes to kilo, otan ginoyn oi telikes epistrofes apo thn E.E. Bebaiws, to idio exoyme kanei kai se sxesh me tis apozhmiwseis gia tis perioxes h gia ton tomea ths paragwghs poy eplhgh apo ta kairika fainomena. Exoyme kinhqei me idiaiterh taxythta kai bebaiws exoyme qesei kai to sxetiko zhthma sthn E.E., ston armodio Epitropo gia thn agrotikh paragwgh, ton k. Fisler. Prosfata, o ypoyrgos Gewrgias ekane kai tis sxetikes parembaseis sth Commission. Ara, mporoyme na poyme apologistika oti h kybernhsh edwse lysh sta problhmata toy agrotikoy kosmoy, idiaitera gia to bambaki. Polla apo ta aithmata exoyn na kanoyn me th genikoterh poreia ths xwras mesa sthn E.E. kai thn koinh agrotikh paragwgh. To xeirotero poy qa eixame na kanoyme, ayth th stigmh, qa htan na egeiroyme zhthmata -kati poy ejalloy den ginetai kai ek twn pragmatwn, alla to lew kai politika- gia katarghsh toy Kanonismoy ths Koinothtas h gia egkataleich ayths ths poreias mesa sthn koinh agrotikh paragwgh, poy akoloyqoyme ta teleytaia xronia. Ayto qa htan katastrofiko gia ton Ellhna agroth. Anarwtiomaste, loipon, poia einai ekeina ta zhthmata poy yparxoyn. Qeloyme na diabebaiwsoyme ton Ellhna agroth oti oxi mono exoyme prospaqhsei kai exoyme brei lyseis sta aithmata toy, alla kai oti den mporei na yparjei kati kalytero poy na perimenei o Ellhnas agroths ayth th stigmh, para mono na syzhthsoyme kai na doylecoyme mazi gia na diamorfwsoyme mia antagwnistikh paragwgh, ena kalytero mellon. Prepei, loipon, ayto na to laboyn ypoch oi Ellhnes agrotes kai idiaitera aytoi poy proxwroyn se kinhtopoihseis. Qelw na pisteyw oti qa staqoyn idiaitera wrima kai ypeyqyna kai oti para thn kinhtopoihsh toys, den qa dhmioyrghsoyn problhmata sthn omalh oikonomikh kai koinwnikh zwh ths xwras. Den einai dynato na plhrwsei o aplos Ellhnas poliths. Den einai dynato h opoiadhpote kinhtopoihsh na apobei se baros.

Me thn eykairia qelw na epishmanw kati pros ta alla kommata. Qa prepei na paroyn oloi safh qesh. To kaqe komma exei tis apoceis toy kai nomimopoieitai na tis exei. Alla, prepei na paroyn mia safh qesh. Symfwnoyme, nai h oxi na kleisoyn oi dromoi; Zhtoyme apo ta politika kommata na topoqethqoyn. Poia einai h sygkekrimenh apoch toys; Qa mas thn poyn; Qa mas thn poyn me eniaio tropo; Qa yparxei symfwnia anamesa se dhlwseis poy kanoyn orismena kommata kai sthn praktikh twn stelexwn toys stoys nomoys h probeblhmenwn stelexwn toys se kaqe perioxh; Edw xreiazetai mia kaqarh ejhghsh, mia kaqarh stash. Apo th dikh mas pleyra exoyme parei kaqares qeseis se ola. Perimenoyme kai apo ta alla kommata na staqoyn me eyqynh kai apenanti stoys agrotes kai ston ypoloipo ellhniko lao.

Qelw na jekaqarisw kati se sxesh me mia shmerinh dhlwsh toy k. Mpasiakoy. O k. Mpasiakos mas leei oti gia na fqasoyn oi bambakoparagwgoi tis 300 draxmes to kilo -erxetai loipon gia prwth fora h N.D. na paradexqei emmesws, plhn safws, oti qa petyxoyme, to stoxo twn 300 draxmwn ana kilo kai qa ton jeperasoyme- qa prepei na ``petajoyn'' (ta eisagwgika dika moy) 200.000 tonoys, dhladh to 15% ths paragwghs toys. Den yparxei tetoio problhma. Dioti apo th mexri stigmhs katagrafh ths sylloghs ths paragwghs, prokyptei oti eimaste ayth th stigmh sto 1.032.000 tonoys, enw opws gnwrizete to orio gia thn E.E. einai 1.146.000 tonoi. Ti qelei o k. Mpasiakos; Na perilaboyme sxetikes katagrafes, posothtes paragwghs eite anyparktes, eite poy proekycan apo kaqe morfhs plastografies kai kompines; Gnwrizete thn apokalych poy egine prin apo ligo kairo gia thn ypoqesh ths marmaroskonhs. Gnwrizete oti kai oi idioi oi agrotes -kai einai pros timh toys- oi syndikalistes kai o k. Pattakhs kai o k. Mpoytas kai alloi, exoyn parei qesh gi aytes tis prajeis kai exoyn pei oti qa einai oi prwtoi poy qa pane ston eisaggelea. Ti zhta o k. Mpasiakos; Na dexqoyme kati tetoio; Na paranomhsoyme kai na apobei sthn oysia olh ayth h istoria se baros toy Ellhna agroth; Ayta ta erwthmata qetoyme kai fysika perimenoyme apanthseis. Makrhgorhsa ligo, alla einai poly shmantiko qema kai hqela na kanw mia pio sygkrothmenh topoqethsh.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa yparjei syzhthsh gia th beltiwsh ths agrotikhs oikonomias, ths antagwnistikothtas; Tosa xronia giati den to exete kanei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Poios sas eipe oti den to exoyme kanei; Qa exete prosejei oti yparxoyn para polloi kladoi stoys opoioys exoyn ginei gigantiaia bhmata, almata, ta teleytaia xronia. Qelw na sas qymisw oti oi epidothseis den yparxoyn pia, se polloys tomeis ths paragwghs. Kai qelw, epishs, na sas qymisw oti apo toys tomeis aytoys den yparxoyn diamartyries. Giati; Giati petyxame th dikh mas antagwnistikothta, giati dhmioyrghsame th dikh mas antagwnistikothta. Giati brhkame th dikh mas qesh sthn Eniaia eyrwpaikh agora. Prepei na doylecoyme mazi me ton Ellhna agroth gia na to petyxoyme ayto se oloys toys tomeis. Den mporoyme na perimenoyme ep apeiron tis epidothseis. Ayrio h E.E. qa kanei th dieyrynsh ths, qa dhmioyrghqoyn kai nees agores, qa mpoyn kai nees xwres. Qa yparxei mia nea koinh agrotikh eyrwpaikh politikh. Den katanooyme oti kalyterh apanthsh gia th qesh ths Elladas kai ths agrotikhs ths paragwghs se aythn den einai na parakaloyme kai na piezoyme mia zwh gia tis epidothseis, alla na katakthsoyme th dikh mas qesh, th dikh mas antagwnistikothta, na oikodomhsoyme ta dika mas nea sygkritika pleonekthmata;

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Epeidh ki eseis qymisate thn topoqethsh ths Paraskeyhs, qelw na pw oti thn Paraskeyh otan rwthqhkame gia th qewria twn kommatikwn daktylwn, an qymaste kala, gia tis kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn, eipate oti den dexeste ayth th qewria kai ayto poy proexei einai na lyqoyn ta problhmata twn agrotwn. O ypoyrgos Gewrgias shmera se radiofwniko staqmo eipe safws kai kaqara oti oi kinhtopoihseis einai ypokinoymenes. Ti apo ta dyo isxyei telika kai poia einai h grammh ths kybernhshs, giati yparxei mia sygxysh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Topoqethqhka kai topoqetoymai safws. Proqesh ths kybernhshs den einai na antiparatiqetai me tis kinhtopoihseis. H kybernhsh einai gia na lynei ta problhmata. Kai lynei ta problhmata. Ejasfalizei panw apo tis 300 draxmes, ana kilo, to bambaki. Kai koitwntas toys agrotes sta matia toys leme oti den mporei na ginei kati kalytero. Qa htan katastrofikh mia egkataleich ths eyrwpaikhs mas politikhs ston agrotiko tomea gia toys idioys toys agrotes. Ekeino, omws, poy toys eipame einai oti den prepei na diataraxqei h oikonomikh kai koinwnikh zwh ths Elladas. Den prepei na plhrwsei o aplos poliths. Bebaiws, mporei na yparxoyn kai symferonta twn politikwn kommatwn. Gi ayto apeyqynqhkame prin apo ligo kai kaname to sxetiko erwthma pros ta politika kommata zhtwntas toys na paroyn qesh. Ayto eipe kai o k. Drys, ayto leme oloi. Oti ta politika kommata den mporei na krybontai. Akoysa dhlwseis to Sabbato ston Typo; ``na lyqoyn ta problhmata twn agrotwn''. Wraia! Pws: Me poia politikh; Ti qa ginei me thn E.E.: Mporei na eimaste ena komma, gia paradeigma -kai omilw gia th N.D.- to opoio sta logia apodexetai thn poreia ths xwras sthn E.E., kai meta oi boyleytes toy, otan phgainoyn stis agrotikes perioxes na zhtoyn na katastrathghqoyn oi Kanonismoi ths E.E; Ayto einai ypeyqynh politikh; Kata th gnwmh moy oxi. Kai egine apo koryfaia stelexh ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Gi ayto omiloyme gia taktikes twn kommatwn, poy prepei na paroyn ypeyqynh qesh.

PITTARAS: Mporeite na mas peite poies einai oi entoles poy exoyn parei oi isxyres astynomikes dynameis poy briskontai sta Temph kai sthn eyryterh perioxh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pantote otan yparxei kapoy mia astynomikh dynamh kineitai me bash to Syntagma kai toys nomoys mas. Ayto einai kanonas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti kanete to pan gia toys agrotes. Giati dexqhke h kybernhsh th meiwsh twn timwn twn ellhnikwn agrotikwn proiontwn kai toy bambakioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prospaqw gia arketh wra, na sas tonisw oti qa fqasoyme se mia timh toy bambakioy, h opoia qa einai apo tis anwteres twn teleytaiwn etwn. Poia katwterh timh apodexqhke h kybernhsh; Den yparxei kamia katwterh timh. H timh toy bambakioy -ws gnwrizete- diamorfwnetai ws synarthsh twn epidothsewn kai ths timhs ths agoras. Ean thrhsoyme -kai gi ayto einai h agwnia mas na mh dexqoyme apates- to orio to opoio symfwnhsame me thn E.E., to 1.146.000 tonoi poy einai to kalytero dynato orio mesa sto plaisio ths koinhs agrotikhs paragwghs, poy mporoysame ``na piasoyme'' gia fetos, tote einai sigoyro oti o agroths qa apolaysei times toy bambakioy megalyteres apo tis 300 draxmes, ana kilo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai megalyteres apo tis perysines;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti persi ``piasame'' peripoy tis 311 draxmes. Exoyme thn ektimhsh oti fetos h timh mporei na kymanqei panw apo tis 300 draxmes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poso parapanw; Entajei, lete parapanw. Parapanw einai mexri 399 draxmes.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto diamorfwnetai, opws gnwrizete, me bash tis times timwn ths agoras kai ton antagwnismo poy yparxei. Gi ayto o ypoyrgos Gewrgias anaferei oti ``prin tis epistrofes ths E.E. apo 271 mexri 285 draxmes''. Dioti oles oi poiothtes toy bambakioy den einai idies. Yparxei kai katwterh kai kalyterh poiothta. Leitoyrgei o antagwnismos. Eimaste se mia eleyqerh agora. Den yparxoyn dioikhtika kaqorismenes times. Einai, loipon, piqano me tis 271, syn tis epistrofes, na perasoyme tis 300 draxmes kai einai dynato gia mia kalyterh poiothta poy qa arxizei apo tis 285, syn thn epistrofh ths E.E., na fqasoyme poly parapanw. Ejartatai, kata periptwsh, apo thn poiothta toy bambakioy. Ayto poy qelw na sas qymisw, einai oti kai propersi kai ola ta prohgoymena xronia, polles fores h timh toy bambakioy kymainotan stis 260-265 draxmes, meta tis epistrofes. Fetos elpizoyme na petyxoyme kalyterh timh, toylaxiston kata 35 draxmes. Ayto einai terastia proodos kai exei na kanei me th doyleia poy ekanan to ypoyrgeio Gewrgias kai h kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete, na mas poyn ta kommata ti ennooyn kai ti prokeitai na kanoyn. Ta kommata bghkan xqes, apo o,ti eida, kai eipan "sthrizoyme tis kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn". Ti allo qelete na sas poyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eqesa sygkekrimena erwthmata, se sxesh me kapoies antilhceis poy pisteyw oti den aphxoyn toys epikefalhs twn kinhtopoihsewn. Qelw na pisteyw oti aytoi qa akoloyqhsoyn mia ypeyqynh stash. Alla, akoysthkan kai kapoies akraies antilhceis gia katalhceis eqnikwn odwn. Zhtoyme apo ta politika kommata na paroyn mia safh qesh gi` ayto. Epishs, zhtoyme na mas poyn, otan lene "lyste ta problhmata", ti akribws ennooyn. Giati, akoysa to prwi ton k. Pattakh kai ton k. Mpoyta na lene oti prepei na fygoyme apo thn E.E. kai prepei na egkataleicoyme ton kanonismo. To pisteyei h N.D. ayto; Giati den pairnei qesh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Mpoytas sth N.D. anhkei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Zhtw na parei qesh h N.D. gia ayta ta qemata. Omws, o k. Nasikas anhkei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: An ta pragmata einai opws ta qesate, oti exete parei kalyterh timh gia to bambaki apo prohgoymenes xronies, eyloga dierwtwmai, giati yparxei ayth h antidrash twn agrotwn. Einai paralogh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaqenas kanei toys ypologismoys toy kai exei tis qeseis toy. Metajy twn agrotwn yparxoyn kapoioi -to lene, den to kryboyn- poy lene oti, kata th gnwmh toys, ta problhmata qa lyqoyn an fygoyme apo thn E.E. kai egkataleicoyme ton kanonismo kai thn koinh agrotikh paragwgh. Oi apoceis aytes einai katastrofikes gia toys idioys toys agrotes.

MPEQANH: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw gia th synanthsh poy qa exei o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Fisler. Kati tetoio den htan programmatismeno thn prohgoymenh ebdomada. Twra ginetai kai logw twn kinhtopoihsewn; Mporoyme na perimenoyme kati perissotero, kati kainoyrgio, peran twn oswn eipate oti exei kanei h kybernhsh sto qema ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den htan programmatismenh, alla kaqoristhke twra. Den exei na kanei me tis kinhtopoihseis, alla me ta problhmata. O Prwqypoyrgos, me thn proswpikh paroysia kai tis parembaseis toy, dinei idiaitero baros sthn epilysh twn problhmatwn toy agrotikoy kosmoy. Qelw na sas qymisw oti epaneilhmmena ekane parembaseis se krisimes stigmes, eidika gia to qema twn kapnwn, alla kai toy bambakioy kai eixe kai sxetikes epafes me ton k. Fisler. Epishs, prosfata, prohdreyse o idios ths Eidikhs Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs gia thn ypaiqro. To Sabbato, epishs, sth diarkeia ths episkechs toy ston Almyro toy Boloy, eixe thn eykairia na anaferqei analytika -sth diarkeia ths synergasias toy me foreis kai twn agrotwn- kai sta problhmata toy agrotikoy kosmoy kai tis prooptikes poy xarazei h kybernhsh. Mas endiaferoyn ta problhmata twn agrotwn. Skyboyme me prosoxh kai sebasmo se ayta kai dinoyme tis kalyteres dynates lyseis.

MPEQANH: Qelw na rwthsw gia to qema poy exoyn shmera "TA NEA", sxetika me thn yparjh kai leitoyrgia mexri shmera ths liberianhs etairias MAYO, h opoia fainetai na xrhmatodotei to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti eixame na poyme, to eipame.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Sth synanthsh poy qa exei stis Bryjelles o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Pronti, sthn atzenta twn synomiliwn qa einai kai to qema ths entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E.;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa syzhthsei me ton k. Pronti, alla kai thn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, to synolo twn qematwn poy yparxoyn, ara kai to qema ths entajhs ths Kyproy.

POYLIDOY: Diabasame oti o k. Papandreoy qa exei allepallhles epafes me ton k. Tzem to epomeno diasthma. To epibebaiwnete ayto kai ti afora;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrje mia topoqethsh toy k. Tzem. Opwsdhpote h topoqethsh ayth einai se ena diaforetiko klima apo tis mexri twra toyrkikes topoqethseis poy edeijan mia adiallajia. Yparxei mia proodos. H monh diafora poy exoyme me thn Toyrkia einai to qema ths orioqethshs ths yfalokrhpidas sto Aigaio. Kai pragmati, an h Toyrkia apodexqei na syntaxqei synyposxetiko gia thn parapomph toy qematos ths yfalokrhpidas sto Aigaio, sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs, ayto qa einai mia qetikh ejelijh. Ayto, omws, den eimaste se qesh na to ektimhsoyme plhrws ayth th stigmh. Ayto poy mporoyme na kanoyme, sto plaisio twn genikwn kateyqynsewn poy exei dwsei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy kai tis opoies anelyse kai prosfata sth diakommatikh epitroph ths Boylhs, qa einai na jekinhsoyn diereynhtikes syzhthseis se yphresiako epipedo, se epipedo dieyqyntwn twn ypoyrgeiwn Ejwterikwn Elladas kai Toyrkias, prokeimenoy na doyme ean yparxoyn ta periqwria, wste na proxwrhsoyme idiaitera ston tomea ayto. Bebaiws, h opoiadhpote syzhthsh qa ginei sto plaisio toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai toy eyrwpaikoy kekthmenoy. Qelw na tonisw oti analoges diereynhtikes epafes kai syzhthseis mporei na xreiastei na exei kai o idios o k. Papandreoy me ton Toyrko omologo toy sto plaisio diaforwn dieqnwn synanthsewn.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Omws, k. Ypoyrge, ean moy epitrepete, h Toyrkia fainetai na prosanatolizetai sto anoigma enos ellhnotoyrkikoy dialogoy poy ekeino qa einai ena poly epikindyno qema. Dioti, poly swsta lete oti to monadiko qema einai h yfalokrhpida.

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn polla problhmata gia na syzhthqoyn metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias. Ayto den shmainei oti einai ola edafikes diafores. H monadikh diafora poy anagnwrizoyme sto Aigaio einai to qema ths orioqethshs ths yfalokrhpidas. Qa htan, pragmati, eyxhs ergo -kai se ayto prepei na kinhqoyme me idiaiterh prosoxh- ean ypografotan to synyposxetiko kai na pame sth Xagh gia na teleiwnei kai ayth h ypoqesh. Ayto den shmainei oti den yparxoyn alla qemata gia na syzhthqoyn, kata th diarkeia diereynhtikwn h allwn epafwn. Ta qemata ayta exoyn na kanoyn me mia seira zhthmata kalhs geitonias, kalwn sxesewn, epafwn k.o.k. Qelw na qymisw oti ton teleytaio kairo exoyn ypografei polles symfwnies poy bohqoyn thn kalh geitonia kai th synergasia me thn Toyrkia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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