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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Dekembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres:

Ayth th stigmh, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, synedriazei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia thn proetoimasia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Amesws meta th lhjh ths synedriashs qa sas enhmerwsei o yfypoyrgos Typoy Thlemaxos Xythrhs. To apogeyma, stis 6, qa arxisei h syzhthsh sth Boylh gia ton Proypologismo toy 2002. O Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sthn enarjh twn ergasiwn kai stis omilies twn eishghtwn twn kommatwn.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo, prokeimenoy na ton enhmerwsei gia tis trexoyses politikes ejelijeis. Stis 13.30 meta to meshmeri, qa exei synergasia me to Grammatea toy PASOK Kwsta Laliwth.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei kai me thn idiothta toy Proedroy toy Kinhmatos antiproswpeia toy Kommoynistikoy Kommatos Kinas. Argotera, stis 11, qa pragmatopoihqei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph gia thn prowqhsh toy programmatos drashs gia thn antimetwpish twn narkwtikwn. Gnwrizete oti yparxei apofash toy ypoyrgikoy symboylioy gia th systash mias Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs kai enos eqnikoy programmatos drashs gia thn katapolemhsh kai thn prolhch ths mastigas twn narkwtikwn.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei to ypoyrgiko symboylio, me antikeimeno syzhthshs thn poreia ylopoihshs toy G@ KPS.

Thn Paraskeyh to brady o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sth Boylh gia ton Proypologismo.

Qelw, epishs, na anaferqw, synoptika, sta apotelesmata toy taktikoy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, sto Laaken toy Belgioy.

Einai safes oti h ellhnikh pleyra edwse mia megalh maxh gia thn proaspish twn eqnikwn symferontwn. Shmeiwnoyme me ikanopoihsh oti stis apofaseis toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, yparxei mia seira shmantikwn zhthmatwn se ayth thn kateyqynsh.

Sygkekrimena: Yparxei h apofash gia thn epixeirhsiakh etoimothta ths E.E., dhladh to qema toy eyrwstratoy, alla kai ths koinhs ejwterikhs politikhs asfaleias kai amynas. Se ayto den exei perilhfqei to skelos poy afora tis sxeseis twn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn poy den einai melh ths E.E., alla einai melh toy NATO. Gi ayto to zhthma polla lexqhkan kai grafhkan aytes tis hmeres. Apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn ellhnikh antiproswpeia doqhke mia megalh maxh gia thn yperaspish twn eqnikwn symferontwn. H maxh ayth kerdhqhke. To qema, omws, qa paei sthn Ispanikh Proedria kai bebaiws qa synexisoyme tis diaboyleyseis, tis prospaqeies kai tis prwtoboylies, giati qeloyme na doqei lysh kai na proxwrhsei h koinh ejwterikh politikh asfaleias kai amynas (KEPAA) ths E.E.. Epeidh, loipon, qeloyme na breqei lysh qa analaboyme gia to skopo ayto oles tis anagkaies prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy h lysh ayth na proaspizei ta eqnika symferonta mas.

Qelw na tonisw oti den einai akribh orismena dhmosieymata, oti h ellhnikh pleyra kinhqhke kaqysterhmena sto qema ayto. Den yparxei kati tetoio. Edw kai para poly kairo exoyme kinhqei se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Kai prepei na sas pw oti, amesws meta thn persinh Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn toy NATO, arxisan oi energeies, oi prwtoboylies kai oi diaboyleyseis ths ellhnikhs pleyras. Eixan analhfqei prwtoboylies, yparxei kai allhlografia, apo ton Ioynio, gyrw apo ayto to qema. Kai, bebaiws, yparxei kai mia poly shmantikh parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia to idio qema pros to Bretano omologo toy k. Mpler, sth diarkeia ths Synodoy ths Gandhs. Einai, loipon, safes oti oxi mono parakoloyqhsame stena ayto to qema, oxi mono yphrxan synexeis parembaseis kai prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs pleyras, me koryfaia ekeinh toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ton k. Mpler, alla yphrxe kai mia stenh parakoloyqhsh kai dhmioyrgia eynoikwn sysxetismwn kai prwtoboyliwn pros ofelos mas, h opoia kata th gnwmh mas apedwse. Kai apedwse dioti den breqhkame monoi apenanti se 14, opws lene orismenoi, alla antiqeta oi prwtoboylies kai ta epixeirhmata ths ellhnikhs pleyras eginan apodekta se shmantiko baqmo apo toys etairoys mas. Gi ayto kai oydepote katateqhke, epishmws, to keimeno ths agglikhs prwtoboylias. Qelw na ypogrammisw, oti emeis qeloyme na breqei lysh, emeis epiqymoyme na proxwrhsei h koinh ejwterikh politikh asfaleias kai amynas ths E.E. se oloys toys tomeis. Oi lyseis, omws, aytes se kaqe periptwsh prepei na einai symfwnes me ta eqnika symferonta mas. Gi ayto exoyme tonisei kai tonisame oti ekeino to keimeno poy diamorfwqhke me agglikh prwtoboylia eprepe na ypostei allages. Diaforetika den mporoysame na to apodexqoyme kai den to apodexqhkame.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, toyto shmainei oti allages den eginan kai oti to qema metatopizetai sthn Ispanikh Proedria, opoy ekei qa ginei mia nea prospaqeia apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh gia na ginoyn oi allages. Epomenws, den jerw an prepei na milame peri nikhs. Edw einai to erwthma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa elega, oti kerdisame thn prwth maxh. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, prepei na synexisoyme tis prwtoboylies gia na fqasoyme sto epiqymhto apotelesma. H ellhnikh pleyra aneptyje tis prwtoboylies kai ta epixeirhmata ths. Epeise h toylaxiston dexqhkan polloi oti ta epixeirhmata ayta exoyn bash kai gi ayto to logo den proxwrhse se ayth th fash to qema ayto, opws hqelan orismenoi. Einai safes oti prepei mesa apo ta organa ths E.E., kai oxi me ejwqesmikes prwtoboylies san aytes poy eginan apo thn pleyra ths M. Bretanias, na ejeyreqei h anagkaia lysh poy na dikaiwnei kai tis qeseis ths ellhnikhs pleyras, na proaspizei ta eqnika symferonta mas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Proedros ths Dhmokratias sth dejiwsh poy edwse askhse kritikh gia thn poiothta enhmerwshs poy prosferoyn ta hlektronika Mesa. Exete kapoio sxolio;

MOYRTZHS: Panw sthn erwthsh ayth na prosqesw ki egw kati. O Proedros ths Dhmokratias eipe oti h poiothta enhmerwshs poy prosferoyn ta hlektronika Mesa einai xamhlh. H dhlwsh toy ayth kai einai shmeio twn kairwn logokriqhke apo orismena hlektronika Mesa. To erwthma moy einai: Twra poy h idiwtikh thleorash exei jeperasei kaqe orio eyteleias kai kits, th stigmh poy "loympen" stoixeia exoyn perissoterh anagnwrisimothta apo anqrwpoys twn Grammatwn kai twn Texnwn, poy prwtokaqedria exoyn oi eidhseis me piperata skandalistika qemata, poia einai h parembash ths Kybernhshs kai ti exete na systhsete sto ESR, to opoio oysiastika exei diakosmhtiko rolo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Moy qesete polla zhthmata. H erwthsh toy k. Gargalakoy aforoyse ena qema, eseis prosqesate merika akomh. En pash periptwsei, epeidh einai sxetikh qa apanthsw kai stis dyo erwthseis.

Gnwrizete, oti h kybernhsh den sxoliazei tis dhlwseis toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Qewrw, omws, oti o Proedros ths Dhmokratias me thn parrhsia kai thn akribeia poy panta ton diakrinei eqese ena qema poy qa elega oti exei idiaitero endiaferon. Kai bebaiws den yparxei Ellhnas poliths poy na mhn katanoei oti h aytoryqmish einai kalyterh ths kaqe epibolhs. Kai nomizw oti o Proedros ths Dhmokratias ejefrase kai to aisqhma toy ellhnikoy laoy sto shmeio ayto. H aytoryqmish mesa apo toys idioys toys anqrwpoys toy Typoy einai kalyterh toy opoioydhpote katastaltikoy metroy h ths opoiasdhpote epibolhs, se mia dhmokratia poy qelei na sebetai to onoma ths, opws einai h ellhnikh. Ypo ayth thn ennoia, ws poliths, den exw para na pw oti ayto poy eipe o Proedros ths Dhmokratias mas ekfrazei oloys.

Oson afora ta ypoloipa zhthmata poy moy qesate prepei na sas pw oti o kaqenas apo mas mporei na exei tis apoceis toy gia to pws antapokrinontai oi epimeroys thleoptikoi h radiofwnikoi staqmoi sto qema twn eidhsewn h kai twn allwn enhmerwtikwn ekpompwn. Emeis, ws kybernhsh, prepei na ejasfalisoyme to dikaiwma, o kaqenas na leei ayto poy qelei kai oxi na krinoyme ayto poy leei. Prepei na krinei o ellhnikos laos. O ellhnikos laos prepei na einai ekeinos poy me thn antapokrish toy sta epimeroys programmata twn eidhsewn h twn enhmerwtikwn ekpompwn dinei th sfragida ths apodoxhs, einai ekeinos o opoios erxetai na pei oti symfwnw h den symfwnw, oti me kalyptei h den me kalyptei, allajte h synexiste. H kybernhsh prepei na dhmioyrgei toys kanones mesa stoys opoioys prepei na ekfrazontai oloi eleyqera. Kai omologw oti, ayth th stigmh, exoyme prowqhsei para poly mia desmh kanonwn kai metrwn poy dinei ayth th dynatothta ths eleyqerias kai toy ployralismoy se ola ta Mesa. Bebaiws, yparxei to ESR, to opoio mporei na parembei opoy ektimhsei oti oi kanones aytoi -poy exoyn kai orismenes paradoxes mesa toys -yperbainontai kai dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata, ta opoia eite prosballoyn- eite dhmioyrgoyn fainomena paraplhroforhshs, eite dhmioyrgoyn alla fainomena poy den mporw ayth th stigmh na problecw. Qelw na tonisw oti kai h ESHEA exei prosfata parembei se orismena tetoia zhthmata. Einai qetiko oti parenebh. Oi idioi anqrwpoi toy Typoy parenebhsan kai epeshmanan kapoia arnhtika fainomena paraplhroforhshs. To ESR einai apolyta isxyro, den einai kaqoloy diakosmhtiko kai mporei na kanei th doyleia toy, opoy ektimhsei. Den prokeitai kai den einai aytos o rolos mas na toy ypodeijoyme oti ta Mesa exoyn yperbei aytoys toys kanones. Opws gnwrizete, symfwna me to Syntagma mas kai me dedomeno oti o Kanonismos ths Boylhs chfisthke apo thn eqnikh antiproswpeia, poly syntoma h idia h Boylh me th diaskech twn proedrwn ths qa proxwrhsei sthn eklogh kai topoqethsh toy neoy ESR, xwris kamia kybernhtikh parembash, poy qa exei kai th dynatothta, opws kai to shmerino, alla akomh perissotero -giati oi apofaseis toy den qa yfistantai ton elegxo nomimothtas, poy yfistantai oi shmerines- na apokatasthsei to kyros aytwn twn kanonwn. Den yparxei, loipon, qema gia thn kybernhsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to ESR exei epibalei kapoia prostima ta opoia eixan elqei ston k. Reppa kai ta brhkate eseis twra sto syrtati. Qa ta proxwrhsete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa proxwrhsoyme otidhpote einai symfwno me to nomiko plaisio mesa sto opoio leitoyrgoyme, opoy exoyme thn ypoxrewsh na kanoyme elegxo nomimothtas se oles tis apofaseis toy ESR. Ayto qa ginetai ews to diorismo toy kainoyrgioy, bebaiws. Oson afora tis palies prokhryjeis yparxei anagkh ermhneias, giati qa synexisoyme na exoyme rolo gia thn ekdosh twn adeiwn. Omws, stis kainoyrgies apofaseis kai tis kainoyrgies prokhryjeis oi apofaseis toy neoy ESR den qa yfistantai kamia parembash kai elegxo nomimothtas. Qa kanoyme elegxo nomimothtas, opws exoyme kanei kai sto qema twn adeiwn, opws gnwrizete, se oles tis apofaseis poy ekkremoyn ayth th stigmh sto ypoyrgeio kai opoy ta pragmata breqoyn synnoma qa proxwrhsoyn. Ayto, omws, qa ejarthqei apo ton elegxo nomimothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta konteyoyn na paragrafoyn. Gi ayto sas rwtw.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti qa ginei elegxos nomimothtas se ola, dioti h armodia yphresia poy elegxei ayta ta qemata exei kanei kai ayth tis parathrhseis ths, exei steilei orismena qemata pros dieykrinish, exei zhthsei se mia seira allwn qematwn nomikes dieykriniseis. Yparxoyn ekkremothtes. To ypoyrgeio doyleyei kanonika, alla prepei na jerete oti prepei na threitai kai o nomos. Kai apo th stigmh poy to ypoyrgeio exei ton elegxo nomimothtas qa ton askhsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sxetika me tis adeies, qa hqela na sas rwthsw: Den isxyei, dhladh, h moriodothsh poy eixe efarmosei o k. Reppas; Pate se allo@

PRWTOPAPAS: Oydemia moriodothsh toy k. Reppa yparxei, dioti den exei kanei kamia moriodothsh. Allwste den eixe kai thn armodiothta na kanei moriodothsh, opws den exw ki egw. Epomenws, ayto poy eipa kai oi r/t syntaktes to gnwrizoyn, einai oti epi dikhs moy ypoyrgias hrqan oi apofaseis toy ESR gia toys "15" peran twn "20" prwtwn staqmwn ths Aqhnas. Egine o elegxos nomimothtas se xrono rekor, paroti einai 47 fakeloi, apo eidiko epiteleio toy ypoyrgeioy me tesseris nomikoys kai diapistwqhke mia seira apo problhmata poy anefera me epistolh moy, edw kai polles hmeres, sto ESR kai perimenw tis apanthseis toy. Dioti an me bash toys problhmatismoys poy anedeije o elegxos nomimothtas, toys jepernoysame kai ypografame aplws thn apofash, tote qa hmastan ekqetoi sthn apofash toy opoioydhpote dikasthrioy giati einai safes oti ekeinoi poy den qa epairnan adeia qa prosefeygan sta dikasthria. Ara, an h apofash den eixe thn eparkh nomikh tekmhriwsh qa prosballotan sto prwto dikasthrio poy qa ginotan. Kai einai logiko oti apo th stigmh poy diapistwneis problhmata ta anafereis se ayton poy exei thn eyqynh ths eishghshs, prokeimenoy na soy dwsei tis sxetikes dieykriniseis. Xairw dioti to ESR proxwrei hdh ston elegxo twn fakelwn me apofash toy, prokeimenoy na parasxei tis sxetikes dieykriniseis kai amesws meta qa proxwrhsoyme.

TAKHS: Mhpws exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia ta osa eipe to prwi o k. Mayrikhs, sxetika me to diktyo twn ypoklopwn kai gia ola ekeina ta pragmata poy synebhsan to perifhmo 1989;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh topoqethqei apo thn perasmenh Tetarth, ep` aytwn twn qematwn.

KAPOS: Anaferate prohgoymenws thn Enwsh Syntaktwn. Qa exete ypoch sas oti ayth h ebdomada, oysiastika, einai o prologos kinhtopoihsewn ths Enwshs, oxi mono gia to qema toy tropoy me ton opoio plhroforeitai o ellhnikos laos, alla kai gia mia seira apo fobera ojymena problhmata ston Typo, gia apolyseis, gia ton tropo me ton opoio ylopoioyntai h oxi oi symbaseis ergasias k.lp. Einai gnwsta ayta se esas. Ayto poy qelw na rwthsw einai kata poso to ypoyrgeio Typoy kai to ypoyrgeio Ergasias kai genika h kybernhsh exei th diaqesh pragmatika na epopteysei se ayta ta krisima zhthmata, ta ergasiaka twn dhmosiografwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai dyo ta erwthmata. Se o,ti afora to prwto: Emena, ws polith, mporei na mhn moy aresei o tropos poy orismenoi xeirizontai ta deltia eidhsewn, tis proteraiothtes twn eidhsewn. O kaqenas mporei na exei tis apoceis toy. Qelw na kanw safes oti emeis den epiballoyme apoch. Den mporoyme oyte na xrhsimopoioyme nomoys, oyte na kanoyme katastolh. Yparxei eleyqeria kai dhmokratia sthn Ellada. Apo kei kai pera, omws, o kaqenas exei dikaiwma na krinei. Kaqe poliths -ara kai kaqe politikos- exei dikaiwma na krinei, na krinei aysthra kai dikaia, na leei thn apoch toy. Ayto einai prwto, gia na jekaqarisoyme ta pragmata.

Se o,ti afora to deytero erwthma sas, gia ta qemata twn dhmosiografwn, hdh, exw milhsei me ton Proedro ths ESHEA k. Manwlako, dyo fores kai protiqemai na bohqhsw, oso mporw me ta mesa poy exw. Gnwrizete oti einai sygkekrimena ta mesa poy diaqetei to kratos, den einai aperiorista, se mia eleyqerh xwra. Qa prospaqhsw na bohqhsw, me ola ta mesa poy exw, prokeimenoy na ejeyreqoyn dikaies lyseis. Bebaiws, protiqemai na dw ti kalytero mporoyme na kanoyme gia na antimetwpistoyn qetika ta opoia ergasiaka problhmata yparxoyn sto xwro.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Me aformh, profanws, thn poreia twn eqnikwn mas qematwn, osa syzhthqhkan sto Eyrwpaiko Symboylio sto Laaken, o k. Karamanlhs -gia allh mia fora- zhthse th systash Symboylioy Ejwterikhs Politikhs. Pws to blepei ayto h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme, kat epanalhch, topoqethqei se ayto. Alla, me thn eykairia poy moy dinete, qa prepei na epishmanw ton idiaitera arnhtiko tropo me ton opoio o k. Karamanlhs kai h N.D. xeiristhke to qema ths Synodoy Koryfhs. Toso kata th diarkeia ths Synodoy, oso kai meta th Synodo, proebh se dhlwseis oi opoies den ekanan tipota allo para na apodynamwnoyn antikeimenika thn eqnikh prospaqeia. Kai ayto, opws tonisa, den einai oyte mizeria, oyte mikrocyxia, opws mas exei synhqisei ton teleytaio kairo. Einai mia stash aneyqynh kai epikindynh, dioti den einai dynaton, thn idia wra poy o Prwqypoyrgos dinei ayth th maxh, kanei ayth thn prospaqeia sto Laaken h akoma kai thn wra poy exei teleiwsei omala gia thn Ellada to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio, alla paramenei to qema se ekkremothta kai xreiazontai prwtoboylies poy na sthrizontai apo oles tis dynameis gia to epomeno diasthma, na bgainei kai na kanei tetoies dhlwseis, dhlwseis arnhshs, diaforas, dhlwseis poy apodynamwnoyn thn eqnikh prospaqeia. Lypoymai pragmatika gi ayth th stash toy k. Karamanlh kai ths N.D.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Akribws, ean yphrxe ayto to Symboylio, den qa apofeygame ola ayta ta opoia hdh exete dhlwsei; Qa syzhtoyntan se ena kleisto xwro kai den qa epairnan dhmosiothta.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxoyn kleistoi xwroi se ayta ta zhthmata kai to jerete poly kala. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti sto parelqon -poly makria, alla einai xrhsimo na to qymomaste merikes fores- otan eixan ginei tetoies syzhthseis, eixan bgei sxedon praktika. Qa to qymaste.

KONTOPOYLOS: Qelw na epanelqw sto qema poy eqese prohgoymenws enas allos synadelfos, me aformh to qema toy k. Mayrikh. Stelexh ths N.D. kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh oti oysiastika brisketai pisw apo olh ayth thn anachlafhsh toy qematos, tis dhlwseis toy k. Gryllakh k.lp. H kybernhsh pws aisqanetai mesa se ayto to klima twn apokalycewn kai twn antiparaqesewn, me aformh mia sygkekrimenh istorikh periodo kai me aformh sygkekrimena gegonota poy kataggelloyn prwtagwnistes ekeinhs ths periodoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na epishmanw oti ayth h periodos den einai makria. Oi prwtagwnistes ths -toylaxiston polloi apo aytoys- einai akoma energa politika proswpa. Apo kei kai pera, ean kapoios eprepe na aisqanetai asxhma, aytos den einai h kybernhsh, oyte to PASOK. Ayth h syzhthsh afora th N.D. kai ton tropo poy hqele na kybernhsei. O ellhnikos laos exei bgalei polla symperasmata apo ayth thn ypoqesh. Den epiqymw na epanelqw shmera.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Gnwrizei h kybernhsh h o kratikos mhxanismos, poios eyqynetai gia to gegonos oti ta erga ston potamo h xeimarro ``Diakoniarh'' sthn Patra den exoyn ginei, opws kataggelloyn oi foreis, edw kai 20 xronia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat arxhn, qelw na ekfrasw th lyph moy gia tis qliberes synepeies eixe h xqesinh qeomhnia sthn perioxh ths Axaias, alla kai se orismena apo ta Ionia nhsia. Bebaiws, exoyme thn kryfh, estw mikrh elpida, oti oi anqrwpoi aytoi poy parasyrqhkan apo ton xeimarro den qa breqoyn nekroi. H elpida paramenei akoma. Peran, omws apo thn ekfrash ths lyphs mas, poy nomizw oti einai h prwth anqrwpinh antidrash, qelw na epishmanw oti kaqe qeomhnia exei ta apotelesmata ths. Einai mia fysikh katastrofh poy bebaiws enteinetai apo problhmata poy antimetwpizei h xwra. Otan leme oti h xwra badizei pros ta empros -kai badizei pros ta empros, exei kalycei ena megalo meros aytoy toy dromoy- den shmainei oti den yparxoyn akoma kai kapoia problhmata poy prepei na antimetwpistoyn. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh prepei na ginoyn erga antiplhmmyrikhs prostasias sto xeimarro h ston potamo ayto, to legomeno Diakoniarh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti sthn eyryterh perioxh ths Axaias kai eidikotera sthn perioxh ths Patras ekteloyntai para polla kai megala erga, ayth th stigmh. Exoyme th zeyjh Rioy-Antirrioy, proxwrei me taxytatoys ryqmoys to ergo toy limanioy kai exoyn proxwrhsei ta erga ths perifereiakhs odoy ths Patras, ergo me to opoio syndeetai kai to ergo toy Diakoniarh. Yphrjan kapoia problhmata stis meletes kai kapoies kaqysterhseis ston tomea ayto. To ``giati'' einai mia allh syzhthsh. Yphrje mia seira apo antikeimenika problhmata kai kaqysterhseis. Ayth th stigmh, omws, to ergo exei proxwrhsei. Exei, hdh, entaxqei, exoyn breqei ta xrhmata. Prepei na symplhrwqei kai na oloklhrwqei h meleth kai amesws meta, entos toy 2002, qa ginei h sxetikh prokhryjh kai qa proxwrhsei. Opws proxwroyn kai ola ta erga, opws antimetwpizontai ola ta problhmata, opws proxwrame mprosta, etsi qa proxwrhsoyme kai ston tomea ayto.

SOYGLERHS: Epeidh katagomai apo thn Patra, ayto to ergo exei ejaggelqei polles fores, oxi mono h meleth toy, alla kai h kataskeyh toy. Edw kai 20 xronia den exei kan jekinhsei. Ap o,ti jerw, thn eyqynh thn exei h Nomarxia kai h Perifereia. Dystyxws einai to trito kroysma poy exoyme me anqrwpoys poy xaqhkan kai den exei ginei akoma tipota. Qa sas parakalesw poly, ean mh ti allo ....

PRWTOPAPAS: Sebomai idiaitera to problhma. Epeidh oloi exoyme mia eyaisqhsia gia thn Patra, h opoia einai mia megalh polh, h opoia ajizei ton kopo na paei mprosta, me enan lao poy dinei tis dikes toy maxes, gi ayto to logo pisteyw oti exoyme thn eyqynh na antapokriqoyme oloi -kai to kratos kai h Nomarxia kai o Dhmos- sta problhmata ths kai na synergastoyme, xwris na rixnei o enas thn eyqynh ston allo, dioti ayto meta lyphs moy eida tis teleytaies hmeres, gia na paei to ergo mprosta. Ta xrhmata yparxoyn kai exei entaxqei to ergo. H meleth kaqysterhse, dioti yphrxan antikeimenika problhmata. Isws se kapoioys apo toys melethtes yphrje mia seira kaqysterhsewn, yphrjan apotelesmata poy den kriqhkan, kata ton elegxo ths meleths, ta kalytera dynata, gia na mhn xrhsimopoihsw allh ekfrash. Yphrjan, dhladh, meletes poy kriqhkan oti den einai eparkeis, den einai oi katallhloteres gia to ergo. Ayto prokalese mia antikeimenikh kaqysterhsh. Omws, epanalambanw oti ayth th stigmh eimaste sto teliko stadio. Symplhrwnetai h meleth, ta xrhmata exoyn breqei, to ergo exei entaxqei. Qa proxwrhsei h dhmoprathsh mesa sto 2002. Qelw na kalesw (opws kalese shmera kai to kybernhtiko klimakio poy me entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy amesws phge sthn Patra, apoteloymeno apo ton yfypoyrgo Eswterikwn Lampro Papadhma, ton yfypoyrgo PEXWDE Giannh Tsaklidh kai ton yfypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs Eyaggelo Malesio, mazi me to Geniko Grammatea Politikhs Prostasias Dhmhtrh Papanikolaoy) oloys toys foreis ths Patras na synergastoyn kai na synergastoyme gia na proxwrhsei to ergo akoma pio grhgora. Qelw, epishs, na epishmanw oti, opws ejhggeile kai to kybernhtiko klimakio, qa arxisei h efarmogh olwn twn metrwn poy lambanoyme kaqe fora, gia th bohqeia pros toys katoikoys ths kaqe perioxhs poy plhttetai, ara kai ths perioxhs ths Axaias kai twn allwn perioxwn, gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths qeomhnias. Qa katablhqei, to taxytero dynato , h bohqeia twn 200.000 draxmwn. Malista, k. Papadhmas anefere oti shmera qa arxisei h katabolh toys stis plhgeises oikogeneies gia tis prwtes anagkes toys. Problepetai h katabolh posoy 2 ekatommyriwn draxmwn gia thn oikoskeyh, meta thn katagrafh twn zhmiwn, opws, epishs, kai h xorhghsh sxetikwn daneiwn, me toys kanones poy exoyn oristei gia oles aytes tis periptwseis. Qelw na sas epishmanw oti einai mia dyskolh wra, me oles aytes tis qeomhnies gia olh thn Ellada. O ypoyrgos Eswterikwn Kwstas Skandalidhs htan xqes, gia polles wres, sth Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias, ekei einai kai twra, kai qa ginoyn oi sxetikes dhlwseis.

TAKHS: Peran toy qematos ths Patras, kaqe fora poy brexei panw apo mia hmera, pisteyontes kai mh ta rixnoyme ola sto Qeo. Den einai ligo yperboliko; Qymamai palia ebrexe mia ebdomada...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti ayth th stigmh ta erija kapoy alloy.

TAKHS: Lew, oti ki eseis ki emeis, ws dhmosiografoi kai eseis ws politikoi synolika.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw fysika thn proqesh na... katalogisw sto Qeo (!) eyqynes poy anhkoyn kai se emas kai stoys armodioys foreis. Milhsa kaqara gia tis antikeimenikes dyskolies poy yphrjan. Eipa, pws qa proxwrhsei to ergo kai ejefrasa th lyph moy gia ta qymata. Apo kei kai pera, qelw na sas epishmanw oti sthn Ellada ginontai xiliades erga, ayth th stigmh, xiliades erga proxwroyn kai gnwrizete oti, toylaxiston, ena megalo meros olwn aytwn twn ergwn, exei hdh oloklhrwqei kai paradoqei. Bebaiws, gnwrizoyme oti kaqe fora prepei na trexoyme pio grhgora, prepei na kalyptoyme aytes tis kaqysterhseis, prepei na antapokrinomaste sta problhmata poy yparxoyn. Alla, mhn paragnwrizoyme to gegonos twn fysikwn katastrofwn. Mhn paragnwrizoyme oti mia fysikh katastrofh exei tis synepeies ths. Mhn phgainoyme sto allo akro.

KARGOYDH: Qa kanw ena praktiko erwthma: Epeidh, hdh, apo shmera h Aqhna exei arxisei na apokta mia eikona, ek diametroy, antiqeth pros tis eortes, ennow toys swroys twn skoypidiwn, hqela na rwthsw ti protiqetai na kanei h kybernhsh, ayth th fora, dioti, ean qymamai kala se takta xronika diasthmata tiqetai to qema ths monimopoihshs h proslhchs ergazomenwn sto Dhmo, ti metra na labei h pws qa meqodeysei th lysh toy problhmatos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn kapoies protaseis poy exoyn diatypwqei apo to armodio ypoyrgeio, apo ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, protaseis poy mexri ayth th stigmh den exoyn ginei apodektes, opws gnwrizete. Einai safes oti h kybernhsh parakoloyqei kai ejetazei apo poly konta thn ypoqesh. Qa yparjoyn oi anagkaies kinhseis kai qa ginoyn anakoinwseis apo ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn.

KARGOYDH: Otan lete ``anagkaies kinhseis'', dhladh, lete oti den yparxei symfwnia kai meta anakoinwnete kapoies anagkaies kinhseis. Mporeite na ginete safesteros;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginoyn oi anagkaies anakoinwseis apo ton ypoyrgo Eswterikwn, entos ths hmeras.

MOYRTZHS: Epistrateysh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn moy apodidete logia poy den eipa.

Sas eyxaristw.

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