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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Dekembrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw oti stis 10 Ianoyarioy o Prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Shmiths qa synanthqei me ton Proedro twn HPA Tzwrtz Mpoys, sthn Oyasigkton. H synanthsh ginetai meta apo prosklhsh toy Proedroy twn HPA. To programma, genikotera, ths episkechs toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA qa kaqoristei kai qa anakoinwqei entos twn hmerwn.

Qelw, epishs, na sas pw oti exoyme mia eyxaristh ejelijh gia toys egklwbismenoys sto treno. Tmhmata toy stratoy efqasan sto apokleismeno apo xqes to brady treno me toys 116 polites. Meteferan prwtes bohqeies, qermantika, koybertes k.tl. Ta mhxanhmata toy stratoy fqanoyn apo stigmh se stigmh sto apokleismeno treno. Egine mia poly megalh prospaqeia, prokeimenoy na apegklwbistoyn oi 116 polites. Ajizoyn idiaitera sygxarhthria se oloys osoi prospaqhsan kai bebaiws ston ellhniko strato poy katebale yperanqrwpes prospaqeies.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

GIANNISHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dyo erwthseis: Xqes o k. Mhtsotakhs, milwntas sthn thleoptikh ekpomph "šEnwpios - Enwpiw" kathgorhse ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton k. Laliwth ws hqikoys aytoyrgoys ths ekstrateias spilwshs kai epishs paradexqhke thn yparjh twn trapezikwn logariasmwn. Exete ena sxolio ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Xqes, o k. Mhtsotakhs paradexqhke dhmosiws orismena pragmata: Paradexqhke, prwta ap` ola, oti h N.D. etrofodoteito apo logariasmoys se off shore etaireies. Paradexqhke oti ekei phgainan kai xrhmata me forodiafygh. Paradexqhke oti ayta ta xrhmata mporei na diatiqento kai gia alloys skopoys. Den xreiazetai na pw tipote allo. Qelw, omws, na sas ypenqymisw mia anakoinwsh ths N.D. me hmeromhnia 18/10/2001. Sas diabazw ti akribws elege: "H N.D. oyte eixe, oyte exei kryfoys logariasmoys se ellhnikes Trapezes h jenes. Oyte bebaiws exei sxesh me off shore etaireies. Ta oikonomika ths N.D. xarakthrizontai apo plhrh diafaneia." Perimenoyme oti o k. Royssopoylos qa anakalesei th sxetikh anakoinwsh mesa sthn hmera.

GIANNISHS: H deyterh erwthsh sxetizetai me thn episkech toy k. Shmith stis HPA. Anaforika me to qema toy eyrwstratoy, prin apo ligo rwthsame ton k. Miler ean h kybernhsh twn HPA qewrei oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh, kata kapoion tropo, leitoyrgei anasxetika ws pros th dhmioyrgia toy eyrwstratoy, kai aytos apanthse oti einai ena qema to opoio oi dyo kybernhseis, twn HPA kai ths Elladas, exoyn syzhthsei se makros kai einai kalytera na to afhsoyme kekleismenwn twn qyrwn. Qa einai antikeimeno diapragmateyshs kata tis synomilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Proedro Mpoys to qema toy eyrwstratoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: H lejh poy xrhsimopoihsate den einai h katallhlh. Otan ginetai mia tetoia synanthsh yparxoyn synomilies gia mia seira apo qemata. Sas eipa oti h atzenta twn synomiliwn qa kaqoristei poly syntoma kai oloi qa thn plhroforhqeite. Prepei na tonisw oti h qesh ths ellhnikhs pleyras paramenei ayth poy ekfrasthke sto Laaken. Einai safes oti qeloyme na proxwrhsei to qema toy eyrwstratoy, alla bebaiws me tropo poy na diasfalizei plhrws ta eqnika symferonta mas.

IWANNOY: Sto idio qema toy eyrwstratoy: Shmera yparxoyn dhmosieymata sthn Ispania, symfwna me ta opoia ekfrazetai h dysforia ths ispanikhs kybernhshs gia to gegonos oti emeis dhmioyrghsame ayto to problhma, mh Dexomenoi na syzhthsoyme to keimeno kai oti olo ayto to qema metatiqetai gia na epilyqei sthn Ispanikh Proedria.

PRWTOPAPAS: Elpizoyme kai qeloyme na epilyqei sthn Proedria ths Ispanias. Qeloyme na idryqei o eyrwstratos, me tropo poy, opws sas eipa, na diasfalizei ta symferonta twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E. kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh ta symferonta ths Elladas. Einai safes oti akomh kai gia thn E.E. den htan swsth h diatypwsh ths aggloamerikanikhs prwtoboylias -kai anaferomai sto keimeno poy yphrxe- dioti edideto to dikaiwma se mia trith xwra na parembei gia thn apostolh eirhneytikwn dynamewn ths E.E., oxi mono se mia perioxh mas, alla se opoiadhpote xwra. Aytes oi dynameis toy legomenoy eyrwstratoy, ths koinhs eyrwpaikhs politikhs asfaleias kai amynas (KEPAA), opws gnwrizete, den exoyn na kanoyn me perioxes entos ths E.E.. Kyriws, exoyn na kanoyn me perioxes ektos ths E.E., opoy qa mporoyse o eyrwstratos na apotelesei dynamh asfaleias, omalothtas kai eirhnhs. Fantasteite, loipon, ti qa ginotan an mia trith xwra qa mporoyse na parembainei -kai eidika na parembainei me dikaiwma veto- gia tis periptwseis apostolwn tetoiwn dynamewn se trites xwres. Pisteyoyme oti oxi mono h Ellada, alla kai h E.E. den exei na kerdisei apo mia tetoia ryqmish. Epomenws, to qema ayth th stigmh einai anoikto. Bebaiws, qa syzhthqei sth diarkeia ths Ispanikhs Proedrias kai qa yparjoyn oles oi anagkaies ellhnikes prwtoboylies. Tonizw kai pali oti emeis qeloyme na proxwrhsei ayth h koinh ejwterikh politikh kai politikh asfaleias kai amynas ths E.E., me tropo omws poy na diasfalizei ta eqnika symferonta mas.

IWANNOY: Syggnwmh, egw rwthsa an pisteyete oti dhmioyrgeitai ena klima dysforias, me aformh ayta ta dhmosieymata, alla kai tis pieseis poy dexqhkame ekei, apo Amerikh kai Agglia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den mporei kaneis na mas piesei se ayta ta zhthmata. Yphrjan prospaqeies apo thn agglikh pleyra na perasei ayto to keimeno. Egine, opws gnwrizete, mia polywrh synanthsh toy Belgoy Prwqypoyrgoy kai proedreyontos toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy, me thn paroysia toy k. Solana kai se kapoia stigmh kai toy k. Rompertson, me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo gia to qema ayto. Kai gnwrizete poly kala me poion tropo o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos, mazi me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Giwrgo Papandreoy yperaspisan ta ellhnika symferonta. Den prokeitai na dexqoyme ayto to keimeno, xwris tropopoihseis. Ayto to exoyme jekaqarisei pros oles tis kateyqynseis. Kai ejhghsame oti ayto poy proballoyme den exei na kanei me kamia emmonh se otidhpote allo, peran ths plhroys diasfalishs twn eqnikwn symferontwn ths xwras. Ayto einai ypoxrewsh mas apenanti ston ellhniko lao.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta tis xqesines dieykriniseis poy edwse o k. Mhtsotakhs kleinei gia to PASOK to zhthma twn logariasmwn ths Mayo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta ta zhthmata den anoigoyn kai kleinoyn. Ayta ta zhthmata yphrjan kai yparxoyn. En pash periptwsei, sas eipa oti o k. Mhtsotakhs paradexqhke xqes dhmosiws oti h N.D. etrofodoteito apo to logariasmo ths off shore etaireias, ths liberianhs etaireias. Milhse gia fainomena forodiafyghs twn anqrwpwn poy kateqetan xrhmata yper ths N.D. kai paradexqhke oti ayta ta xrhmata mporei na dietiqento kai gia alloys skopoys, toys opoioys kaneis den gnwrizei. To erwthma einai pros th N.D.. Kai bebaiws na tonisw kai pali oti stis 18/10/2001 o k. Royssopoylos mas eixe pei oti h N.D., oyte eixe, oyte exei kryfoys logariasmoys h logariasmoys se off shore etaireies h xrhsimopoiei kati tetoio. Diaceydetai apo ton idio ton k. Mhtsotakh. H N.D. einai ekeinh, h opoia prepei na topoqethqei. Kai qelw na pisteyw oti shmera o k. Royssopoylos qa anakalesei th dhlwsh poy ekane stis 18 Oktwbrioy.

MPOTWNHS: Se o,ti afora to prwto skelos, qa legame oti apanthsate. Se o,ti afora twra thn ypoqesh Gryllakh kai tis apokalyceis, pws sxoliazete tis dhlwseis toy k. Mhtsotakh poy milaei gia hqikh aytoyrgia, oti pisw apo olh ayth th diadikasia krybetai o k. Shmiths me ton k. Laliwth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kaneis den mporei na dexqei aytoy toy eidoys tis dhlwseis. Ayta den isxyoyn. O k. Gryllakhs htan stenos synergaths kai symboylos toy k. Mhtsotakh kai malista se para polla qemata, opws fainetai.

ANANIADHS: Yparxei h apoch oti sto Laaken h Ellada exase meros, toylaxiston, aytwn poy kerdise sto Elsinki. Dhladh, apo th stigmh kata thn opoia h Toyrkia exei problhmata me thn Eyrwph, h Toyrkia dieyqetoyse me thn Eyrwph ta opoia problhmata ths, twra, logw toy Eyrwstratoy janaginetai h Ellada meros toy problhmatos. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eimaste meros kanenos problhmatos. Einai apolytws logiko mia xwra-melos ths E.E. na yperaspizetai to dikio ths. Bebaiws, qa qelame ki emeis na mhn eixe lhfqei ayth h ejwqesmikh prwtoboylia ths Bretanias. Kai en pash periptwsei, einai mia ejwqesmikh prwtoboylia, h opoia den symballei sto pneyma poy qeloyme oloi gia thn poreia kai to mellon ths E.E. Einai safes. Gnwrizete oti, edw kai ena xrono, dinoyme maxh gia swsth ryqmish toy qematos. Sas anefera kai xqes oti apo ton Ioylio exei antallagei se yphresiako epipedo sxetikh allhlografia kai yphrje parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros to Bretano omologo toy, ton k. Mpler, kata th diarkeia ths ektakths Synodoy Koryfhs ths Gandhs. Den exoyn dikaio -qa elega oti einai plhrws analhqh ayta poy lene merikoi oti dhqen to eidame ek twn ysterwn- apodynamwnoyn tis prospaqeies ths ellhnikhs pleyras kai kakws ginontai. Qewroyme oti aytos htan o dromos poy eprepe na badisoyme.

ANANIADHS: Sto Laaken lhfqhke kai mia allh apofash. Gia thn akribeia egine dekth h protash ths Kommission, symfwna me thn opoia epixeirhseis poy apasxoloyn panw apo 50 ergazomenoys, prepei na enhmerwnoyn to proswpiko kai na lambanoyn ypoch toys th gnwmh twn ergazomenwn gia qemata poy aforoyn thn poreia ths epixeirhshs kai kyriws qemata poy aforoyn thn apasxolhsh. To erwthma einai, poia metra qa labei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia na enswmatwsei th sygkekrimenh apofash sthn ellhnikh nomoqesia, kai ean yparxei xronikos orizontas. Dhladh, pote qa isxyei h sygkekrimenh apofash sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme, hdh, sto ellhniko ergatiko dikaio, mia seira tetoiwn ryqmisewn, prwtoboylies apo odhgies ths E.E., kai dikes mas. Opws gnwrizete, sthn Ellada den mporei na kleisei mia epixeirhsh, ean den prohghqei to stadio ths diaboyleyshs me to proswpiko ths. O,tidhpote neo kai symplhrwmatiko periexei ayth h odhgia, qa enswmatwqei to taxytero dynato. Omws, qelw na tonisw oti to ellhniko Ergatiko Dikaio einai idiaitera mprosta ston tomea ayto.

KARGOYDH: Hqela na rwthsw gia thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy stis HPA. O Amerikanos Proedros einai fanero, edw kai kairo, apo thn 11h Septembrioy kai meta, oti epiqymei na antallajei apoceis me toys perissoteroys hgetes ths yfhlioy. H ellhnikh pleyra, ti prosdoka apo ayth th synanthsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai shmantiko na exei synomilies o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos me ton Proedro twn HPA. Qa antallagoyn apoceis gia poly krisima zhthmata gia ta dieqnh problhmata kai tis dimereis sxeseis mas. To programma ths episkechs qa kaqoristei tis epomenes hmeres kai qa sas gnwstopoihqei. Einai, omws, mia shmantikh episkech kai einai logiko na apodidoyme s` aythn idiaiterh shmasia.

BATIKIWTHS: H kybernhsh symfwnei me tis protaseis poy kateqese xqes to Idryma Oikonomikwn kai Biomhxanikwn Ereynwn, sxetika me thn anamorfwsh toy Asfalistikoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oloi oi episthmonikoi foreis, kaqe idryma, kaqe foreas h kaqe melethtiko kentro h proswpa poy exoyn sxesh me to Asfalistiko, kaqe fora, prin arxisei enas dialogos anakoinwnoyn tis apoceis toys. Bebaiws, ayto einai qetiko. Opws gnwrizete, to idio exoyn kanei kai oloi, anejaireta, oi koinwnikoi foreis. Opws , gia paradeigma, h GSEE, h opoia einai h prwth poy qa symmetasxei ston koinwniko dialogo. To qema den einai ean symfwnoyme h oxi me aytes tis apoceis. Oles oi protaseis poy katatiqentai exoyn kai shmeia poy piqanon kapoioys na briskoyn symfwnoys kai kapoioys oxi. Alla, otan jekinas ena dialogo kai exeis to diko soy plaisio -kai qa yparjei to arxiko plaisio apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs- einai logiko oti qa klhqoyn oloi, kai ta politika kommata, alla kai kaqe endiaferomenos foreas, na kataqesoyn tis apoceis toys. Ola qa ejetastoyn. Se ayto to dialogo qa epidiwxqei na breqoyn synaineseis kai oi kalyteres dynates lyseis. H kybernhsh qa timhsei ton koinwniko dialogo kai qa kataqesei tis epishmes apoceis ths.

BATIKIWTHS: H paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Ygeias sto trapezi toy IOBE, pws ermhneyetai;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mhn prospaqeite na ta ermhneysete ola. O ypoyrgos Ygeias, poy gnwrizei kala to Asfalistiko Systhma, paroysiase ena plaisio genikwn kateyqynsewn. Eipe tis apoceis toy gia ena poly sobaro qema ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. H syzhthsh epi genikwn kateyqynsewn kai paradoxwn, thn periodo poy mpainoyme sto dialogo, den einai arnhtikh. Tonizw kai pali oti h kybernhsh qa timhsei ayton ton koinwniko dialogo kataqetontas ekei epishmws tis apoceis ths.

ARGYROS: Xqes, prwth hmera ejoikeiwshs toy koinoy me to EYRW parathrhqhkan kapoia fainomena kerdoskopias kai grafeiokratias, gegonos poy den jefyge apo ton problhmatismo toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Ejetazei to endexomeno h kybernhsh na labei prosqeta metra, wste na mh dhmioyrghqoyn tetoies katastaseis, otan pragmatika kykloforhsei to EYRW;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pragmati, paroysiasthkan kapoia fainomena grafeiokratias apo orismenes Trapezes, enw eixan doqei safeis odhgies apo thn Trapeza ths Elladas. Parembainoyme, prokeimenoy na ejyphrethqoyn oi polites kai na dieykolynqei h eisagwgh toy EYRW, h opoia einai ena spoydaio gegonos gia thn oikonomia kai thn poreia ths Elladas. Apo thn 1h Ianoyarioy qa breqoyme se ena neo periballon, me nea dedomena kai qa prepei na ta antimetwpisoyme me th dhmioyrgia mias neas eqnikhs aytopepoiqhshs. H xwra proxwra dynamika sthn kardia ths Eyrwphs. H eisagwgh toy EYRW qa prepei na ginei, oxi mono texnika, alla kai politika, me tropo poy na dieykolynei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Oloi prepei na symbaloyme, giati einai pros to symferon ths xwras. To eqniko symferon epitassei na mh xaqei ayth h megalh eykairia, o neos dromos poy anoigetai gia th xwra, sto bwmo kapoiwn mikrwn problhmatwn h dysxereiwn, poy qa yparjoyn, oytws h allws, tis prwtes hmeres. H kybernhsh exei kanei oles tis aparaithtes energeies, me diafhmistikes kai epikoinwniakes kampanies, me to trichfio ariqmo poy leitoyrgei, me th megalh prospaqeia ths Trapezas ths Elladas. Bebaiws, qa lhfqoyn kai alla metra apo tis prwtes hmeres toy Ianoyarioy. Qa hqela na zhthsw th symbolh sas, ws anqrwpoi poy epikoinwneite amesws me ton polith, prokeimenoy oi teleytaies apories na lyqoyn. Ayto to aisqhma asfaleias na kyriarxhsei kai h eisagwgh toy EYRW na ginei me ton kalytero dynato tropo. Etsi prepei na proxwrhsoyme.

Sas eyxaristw.

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