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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Oktwbrioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres:

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, sto plaisio twn taktikwn synanthsewn toys. Argotera, sth 1 meta to meshmeri, qa dexqei to neo presbh twn HPA Tomas Miler. Stis 7 to apogeyma, qa proedreysei se syskech proetoimasias ths ellhnikhs antiproswpeias, enocei toy atypoy Symboylioy Koryfhs ths Gandhs.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me antikeimeno syzhthshs tis diarqrwtikes allages sto xwro toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. Opws gnwrizete, einai se ejelijh seira diarqrwtikwn allagwn, opws sta Nayphgeia Skaramagka, ta Ellhnika Petrelaia, thn ETBA. Qa ginei enhmerwsh, epishs, gia tis teleytaies ejelijeis ston tomea twn aerometaforwn. Allwste, gia to qema ayto oi Ypoyrgoi Metaforwn ths E.E. qa synedriasoyn thn erxomenh Tetarth.

Thn Paraskeyh, o Prwqypoyrgos qa labei meros sto atypo Symboylio Koryfhs. Sto Symboylio ayto qa ginei syzhthsh gia thn proetoimasia twn xwrwn-melwn ths E.E., enocei ths eisagwghs kai xrhsimopoihshs toy Eyrw. Ena allo qema poy qa apasxolhsei to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio einai ayto poy afora to mellon ths Eyrwphs. Epishs, sto deipno qa syzhthqoyn oi teleytaies ejelijeis, meta tis stratiwtikes epixeirhseis gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qelw na sas enhmerwsw oti o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy episkefqhke xqes th Syria. Ginetai synennohsh na episkefqei kai to Iran. Ayto qa ginei, mallon, stis arxes ths epomenhs ebdomadas, doqentos oti to programma toy k. Papandreoy, ayth thn ebdomada, den toy epitrepei na pragmatopoihsei allh episkech. Qa einai apasxolhmenos, toso sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn poy qa synelqei thn Tetarth, oso kai sthn eyrwpaikh diaskech poy qa labei xwra to Sabbato, sto Belgio panta.

H syzhthsh me thn hgesia ths Syrias htan poly gonimh. H Syria einai mia xwra poy diadramatizei ena rolo sthn perioxh. Mporei na symballei, prokeimenoy na dieyqethqoyn eirhnika oi perifereiakes diafores. Mporei na apotelesei th gefyra me thn Eyrwph. Aytos einai o rolos ths Elladas, prwtagwnistikos, gia mia akomh fora. Qewroyme oti meta tis syzhthseis aytes, opoy egine fanero oti kai h Syria symmetexei se ayto to pagkosmio metwpo enantion ths tromokratias, prepei na exoyme anoixtoys toys diayloys ths epikoinwnias mas me th xwra ayth. Kai, bebaiws, metajy twn allwn syzhthqhke h skech poy exei h ellhnikh kybernhsh kai sygkekrimena o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn na synelqei ypo thn aigida toy OHE mia diaskech, prokeimenoy na syzhthqoyn akribws ta qemata poy aforoyn thn tromokratia, ton prosdiorismo ths ennoias tromokratia pio sygkekrimena.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Eixame mia omofwnh politikh apofash toy Synedrioy toy PASOK, to brady toy Sabbatoy. Se poio baqmo ayth h omofwnh apofash desmeyei thn kybernhsh gia to ergo ths mexri tis epomenes ekloges;

REPPAS: Oi politikes apofaseis toy Synedrioy einai se akoloyqia twn programmatikwn ejaggeliwn ths kybernhshs. Aplws, ginetai mia ejeidikeymenh proseggish orismenwn pleyrwn ths politikhs mas. Oi apofaseis poy phre to Synedrio mas einai kai to plaisio mesa sto opoio qa kinhqei to PASOK, thn epomenh periodo.

MIXAHL: An moy epitrepete, oi polites chfisan to PASOK gia na kanei kybernhsh. Kai o k. Shmiths desmeythke apenanti toys me sygkekrimeno proeklogiko programma, to opoio ejeidikeyse me tis programmatikes dhlwseis sth Boylh. To ti apofasizete sto Synedrio sas, giati na endiaferei ton Ellhna polith;

REPPAS: Den akoysate thn apanthsh poy edwsa. Eipa oti einai se synexeia aytoy toy programmatos. Den eipa oti einai se antiparaqesh, opws to eklambanete eseis, gia na kanete th deyterh erwthsh sas. Ara, tetoio qema den yparxei. Asfalws o ellhnikos laos exei anadeijei kybernhsh. To Synedrio ayto htan ena megalo koinwniko gegonos, mia ejwstrefhs diadikasia. Mesa apo ayth th diadikasia anabaqmizetai h kybernhsh. Kanoyme ena neo jekinhma, prokeimenoy h kybernhsh na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis ths, na dikaiwsei th laikh entolh. O Ellhnikos laos perimenei apo thn kybernhsh thn efarmogh toy programmatos poy ejaggeilame. H kybernhsh qa antapokriqei se ayth thn entolh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote giati o Prwqypoyrgos eipe xqes oti apo shmera doyleia; Mexri xqes, ti kanate; Apo tis ekloges mexri xqes, ti kanate;

REPPAS: Ayta ta opoia syzhtame se ayth thn aiqoysa, edw kai perissotero apo enamisi xrono, meta tis ekloges toy Aprilioy toy 2000, apodeiknyoyn oti einai se ejelijh h efarmogh toy programmatos mas. H kybernhsh leitoyrgei apo tote poy anelabe kaqhkonta. Asfalws, ta Synedria twn kommatwn apoteloyn systatiko stoixeio ths dhmokratikhs leitoyrgias twn kommatwn. Qa elega oti einai kai dhmokratiko stoixeio ths leitoyrgias mias koinwnias. Einai logiko, einai xrhsimo ta kommata na proxwroyn se Synedria. H anabaqmish ths doyleias mas, meta thn oloklhrwsh twn ergasiwn toy Synedrioy mas, kaqws eiserxomaste se ayth th nea periodo, qa bohqhsei thn kybernhsh na apokthsei mia nea dynamikh, mia nea ormh, prokeimenoy na antapokriqei sthn apostolh ths.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den moy apantate. Sas lew, apo tis ekloges mexri xqes, ti kanate;

REPPAS: Ayta den leme kaqe hmera edw;

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos leei ``telos se ayta poy ginontan, apo shmera doyleia''. Mexri xqes, ti ekanan;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti teleiwnei h eswstrefeia. Ayto einai qema poy afora thn eswterikh leitoyrgia toy kommatos. O Prwqypoyrgos den eipe oti mexri twra h kybernhsh den antapokriqhke stis entoles poy eixe apo ton ellhniko lao kai eprepe na ginei to Synedrio gia na afypnistei h kybernhsh. To Synedrio, opws allwste problepotan na ginei, einai mia diadikasia poy einai xrhsimh gia kaqe komma, mia diadikasia poy exei na dwsei se kaqe komma mia anazwogonhtikh dynamh. Me ayth thn ennoia, ajiopoioyme tis ergasies toy Synedrioy mas, ws kybernhsh pleon, prokeimenoy na synexisoyme to ergo mas pio apotelesmatika, pio apofasistika, wste grhgora o ellhnikos laos na dei xeiropiastoys toys karpoys kai ta apotelesmata ths politikhs mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H k. Papazwh qa einai ston epomeno anasxhmatismo Ypoyrgos;

REPPAS: H k. Papazwh einai Ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs. O Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos poy exei thn apokleistikh armodiothta kai eyqynh na synqesei to epomeno kybernhtiko sxhma. Exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos oti qa proxwrhsei se anasxhmatismo. Oloi osoi metexoyn sto paron kybernhtiko sxhma krinontai ej arxhs. Oloi anejairetws.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ystera apo ayta poy mas eipate, mporeite na mas diabebaiwsete ean ejeleipan pleon oi logoi toys opoioys ejefrase o Prwqypoyrgos, prin apo to Synedrio, oti amfisbhteitai, oti adynatei na kybernhsei k.t.l. Oloi aytoi oi logoi ejeleipan kai einai pleon eleyqeros o k. Shmiths na proxwrhsei;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti twra me thn oloklhrwsh toy Synedrioy toy PASOK, apodeiknyetai poso orqh htan h epilogh gia thn epispeysh toy. Oi apofaseis toy Synedrioy, to klima poy dhmioyrghqhke me thn oloklhrwsh toy, to eyrytero politiko periballon, dikaiwnoyn thn politikh epilogh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Apo ekei kai pera, pisteyoyme oti twra exoyme kalyteres proypoqeseis apo oti prin, gia na synexisoyme to kybernhtiko ergo mas. Ola ayta, omws, ta epimeroys zhthmata menei na apodeixqoyn kai sthn poreia, an oloi deijoyme thn analogh synepeia poy prepei na deijoyme, me bash tis apofaseis kai tis entoles toy Synedrioy kai twn Synedrwn, prokeimenoy na synexisoyme thn prospaqeia mas kai na thn oloklhrwsoyme me epityxia, wste na kriqoyme apo ton ellhniko lao, ejisoy qetika, opws kai sto parelqon.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ayth h erwthsh einai h synexeia ths syzhthshs poy eixame edw thn Paraskeyh. Epeidh hsastan poly kathgorhmatikos. Ayta poy akoysthkan sto Synedrio toy PASOK apo ton ekproswpo ths kybernhshs toy Israhl, peripoioyn timh gia to PASOK kai thn kybernhsh; Meinate ikanopoihmenos, otan anaferqhke eidikws oti periqalpete tromokrates;

REPPAS: Kapoioi mas kathgoroyn giati dwsame bhma ston k. Arafat na pei tis apoceis toy. Kapoioi alloi mas kathgoroyn giati dwsame bhma ston ypoyrgo ths israhlinhs kybernhshs na metaferei thn politikh ths kybernhshs toy. Gnwrizete oti kaqenas ekproswpei mia kybernhsh, ena komma, ara proballei thn politikh toy kommatos toy kai ths kybernhshs toy. Gnwrizete poia qesh exoyme epi toy sygkekrimenoy zhthmatos. Einai apofasistikh h boylhsh mas na antimetwpisoyme kai na ejaleicoyme thn tromokratia me th synergasia kai th bohqeia olwn twn armodiwn yphresiwn twn allwn kratwn. Oydeis mporei na kathgorei, oydeis mporei na skeptetai kan oti h Ellada apotelei ejairesh se ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanei h pagkosmia Koinothta enantion ths tromokratias. H katapolemhsh ths tromokratias mas afora oloys. Afora kai emas, giati h Ellada einai qyma ths tromokratias. Ayto mas eyaisqhtopoiei idiaitera. Den epitrepoyme se kanenan na diatypwnei diaforetikh qesh, oyte kan na ejetazei tis proqeseis mas kai th boylhsh mas, oson afora thn antimetwpish ayths ths mastigas. H qesh mas einai dedomenh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: To ekane, omws, o ekproswpos ths israhlinhs kybernhshs. Sas to eipe eyqews. Dhladh, "katamoytra", opws leei o laos. Sas to eipe mesa sto Synedrio poy einai to anwtato kaqodhghtiko sas Organo. Kai h eikona poy eisprattei pagkosmiws h koinh gnwmh kai h eswterikh, einai apo th mia meria agkalies, xeirokrothmata kai shmeia ths nikhs me ton Arafat kai apo thn allh, enan Ebraio na sas "periloyzei" kai eyqews na sas leei oti ypoqalpete toys tromokrates. Ti eikona perase ejw;

REPPAS: Den einai akribws etsi. Apo ekei kai pera, asfalws, den mporei na leitoyrghsei kapoio peiqarxiko gia na epiballei poinh se enan ajiwmatoyxo, o opoios ekproswpei mia allh kybernhsh, ena allo kratos, ena allo komma, mia allh politikh. Kaqenas leei tis apoceis toy. Proskeklhmenos htan aytos poy elabe to logo sto Synedrio mas kai diatypwse thn politikh toy, oxi me ayto ton akraio tropo, opws ton paroysiazete eseis. En pash periptwsei gnwrizete oti epi toy qematos aytoy den yparxei peraiterw syzhthsh, giati einai dedomenh h politikh mas. Emeis exoyme thn politikh mas. Bebaiws, mas endiaferei kai h gnwmh twn allwn, alla den einai ayth poy qa orioqethsei tis politikes epiloges kai tis kinhseis mas.

MPOTWNHS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos me to apotelesma gia thn eklogh toy, epeidh yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories oti qa hqele na einai pio chla.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, ayta einai qemata ths leitoyrgias toy kommatos. Pisteyoyme oti h panhgyrikh epaneklogh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ws Proedroy toy PASOK deixnei me ton kalytero tropo oti oi epiloges poy exei kanei exoyn th sthrijh ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias twn melwn toy PASOK kai synakoloyqa toy ellhnikoy laoy. Mhn jexnate oti to PASOK einai to pleiochfiko reyma ths ellhnikhs koinwnias. Kai qelw na prosqesw toyto: To PASOK einai ena dhmokratiko Kinhma. Ta teleytaia pente-eji xronia to PASOK exei organwsei tria Synedria, apo ta eji synolika poy exoyn ginei. Epishs, qelw na epishmanw oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai aytos o opoios, paroti einai eklegmenos apo ton ellhniko lao, qetei thn hgesia toy ypo thn krish twn syntrofwn toy kai zhta eklogh mesw kalphs apo toys Synedroys, enw se alla kommata, opws sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, meta apo eklogikh htta malista, h hgesia ths den eqese qema epanabebaiwshs ths sto Synedrio toy kommatos. Emeis, se kaqe Synedrio poy exei taktiko xarakthra, qetoyme qema epanekloghs ths hgesias mas, mesw kalphs, oxi dia bohs. Alloi to kanoyn, eite dia bohs kai alloi den to kanoyn kaqoloy. Ayto deixnei oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei dhmokratikh eyaisqhsia kai oti to PASOK einai ena komma poy leitoyrgei me syllogikes dhmokratikes diadikasies kai ayto to apodeiknyei sthn prajh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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