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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Ioylioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos, eixe shmera, sth Mosxa, synanthsh me to Rwso Proedro Blantimir Poytin, h opoia dihrkese mia wra. Syzhthsan qemata dimeroys endiaferontos. Idiaiterws, qemata poy aforoyn ton energeiako tomea kai bebaiws thn politikh synergasia metajy twn dyo xwrwn. Epishs, syzhthsan qemata poy aforoyn thn katastash sthn eyryterh perioxh, sth N.A. Eyrwph. Oi dyo andres epanelaban tis basikes qeseis twn dyo xwrwn gia thn thrhsh twn symfwniwn, to sebasmo twn yparxontwn synorwn kai thn anaptyjh kaqe prospaqeias, prokeimenoy me eirhniko tropo na antimetwpistoyn kai na lyqoyn ta problhmata poy yparxoyn sthn perioxh.

Epibebaiwqhke, akomh, oti stis 12 Dekembrioy o Proedros Poytin qa episkefqei epishma th xwra mas, proskeklhmenos toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Meta th synanthsh o Prwqypoyrgos ekane dhlwseis.

Sas enhmerwnw, epishs, oti o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn Giannos Papantwnioy exei, ayth thn wra, syskech me toys Ypoyrgoys Anaptyjhs Niko Xristodoylakh, Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn Xrhsto Berelh kai toys Yfypoyrgoys PEXWDE Naso Aleyra kai Aqlhtismoy Giwrgo Flwridh, gia qemata poy aforoyn thn politikh twn diarqrwtikwn allagwn se foreis h organismoys poy epopteyoyn. Meta to telos ths syskechs o k. Papantwnioy qa probei se sxetikes dhlwseis ki etsi qa exete apanthseis gia qemata ths oikonomikhs sygkyrias.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KAPPOS: Epeidh yparxei rwsikh protash gia mia diaskech gia thn eirhneysh sth FYROM kai antistoixh protash eixe ypobalei kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh, poy bebaia den telesforhse, mhpws yparxei kati newtero;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, gia na yparxei ayth h dieqnhs synergasia qa prepei na symfwnoyn oles oi pleyres, oles oi xwres poy exoyn kapoio logo kai rolo sto qema ayto. Pragmati, kai apo th dikh mas pleyra eixe diatypwqei mia tetoia skech, h opoia den telesforhse, opws swsta eipate, epeidh alles xwres eixan diaforetikh proseggish. Shmasia exei oi politikes dynameis ths xwras ayths na oloklhrwsoyn ton politiko dialogo kai th synennohsh toys, prokeimenoy etsi -kai einai elpidoforo oti threitai h ekexeiria poy symfwnhqhke prin apo liges hmeres- na odhghqoyn se plhrh afoplismo oi omades twn ejtremistwn poy droyn ews twra sthn perioxh kai na epanelqei h politikh staqerothta kai h hremia sto kratos ayto.

KAPPOS: Yparxei mia protash apo thn pleyra twn albanikwn dynamewn gia apostolh NATOikwn strateymatwn enosw qa diarkei ayth h ekexeiria, h opoia kata diasthmata diaspatai -na to pw etsi- enanti ayths ths protashs@

REPPAS: H paroysia twn NATOikwn dynamewn sthn perioxh qa apoblepei sthn parakoloyqhsh ths diadikasias toy afoplismoy twn ejtremistikwn dynamewn. Den mporei to NATO na analabei allh prwtoboylia, stelnontas dynameis ekei oi opoies qa emplakoyn se polemikes kai stratiwtikes epixeirhseis. Einai jekaqarismeno apo thn arxh oti oi dynameis toy NATO qa exoyn to rolo toy parathrhth kai eggyhth gia thn oloklhrwsh ths diadikasias toy afoplismoy. Bebaiws, qa prepei ayto na ginei, afoy zhthqei apo tis politikes dynameis ths FYROM, pragma to opoio mexri ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme den exei ginei, epeidh den exei epiteyxqei h symfwnia twn politikwn dynamewn.

GARGALAKOS: O Ypoyrgos Amynas ejefrase thn apoch oti proypoqesh toy "oloi mazi" einai na yparjei symfwnia epi twn proodeytikwn politikwn poy apaitoyntai. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei oti sto PASOK hmastan, eimaste kai qa eimaste oloi mazi. Opws exw, kat` epanalhch, apanthsei se sxetikes erwthseis, to PASOK einai ena polysyllektiko kinhma kai gi ayto katorqwnei na einai pleiochfiko reyma sthn ellhnikh koinwnia, dhladh na einai mia kybernhtikh dynamh. Pisteyw, oti ayto akribws einai poy kanei to PASOK na jexwrizei tosa xronia apo tis alles politikes dynameis. To PASOK einai kybernhtikh dynamh, epeidh einai pleiochfiko reyma. Kai einai pleiochfiko reyma, epeidh einai polysyllektiko kinhma. Sto plaisio aytwn twn apocewn poy diatypwnontai qa prepei, metajy twn allwn, na lambanontai pantote ws bash gia th diatypwsh twn apocewn oi periorismoi poy yparxoyn se oikonomiko kai qesmiko epipedo. Qa prepei na doyme poies einai oi antoxes kai oi dynatothtes ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Qa prepei na doyme poio einai to nomiko plaisio poy isxyei, gia na askoyme tis politikes mas poy einai proodeytikes. Einai politikes symfwnes me thn entolh toy ellhnikoy laoy, giati o proodeytikos xarakthras ths politikhs mas, oson afora idiws ayth th qhteia mas poy dinoyme probadisma sthn anabaqmish toy koinwnikoy kratoys, einai kati to opoio den prepei na amfisbhteitai. Ara, loipon, h symfwnia asfalws einai epi twn politikwn poy askoyntai. Ayto einai poy odhgei se synergasia kai apotelesmatikothta thn kybernhsh mas. Alla h synergasia kai ayth h symfwnia, antilambaneste, oti sthrizontai se pragmatika dedomena kai stoixeia.

GARGALAKOS: Paragontes ths agoras kai politikoi paragontes apeyqynontai amesws h emmesws ston Prwqypoyrgo kai toy zhtoyn na parei diafores prwtoboylies, wste na anastrafei to klima poy yparxei akomh kai sto Xrhmatisthrio, alla eyrytera kai stis agores. Protiqetai o Prwqypoyrgos na kanei kapoies kinhseis pros ayth thn kateyqynsh;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei parei prwtoboylies. H eishghsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy gia thn epispeysh toy Synedrioy einai prwtoboylia poy katateinei sto na aposafhnisoyme ptyxes ths politikhs mas, sto na anabaqmisoyme thn poiothta toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, mesa apo thn anabaqmish ths kybernhshs, sto plaisio toy Synedrioy. Kata ta alla, gnwrizete oti to Xrhmatisthrio akoloyqei th dikh toy poreia. Qa prepei na to aposyndesoyme apo tis ejelijeis poy aforoyn thn ellhnikh oikonomia. H fash sthn opoia brisketai to Xrhmatisthrio einai dysmenhs. Den qa prepei, omws, to Xrhmatisthrio na ginei pedio antiparaqeshs kai kommatikhs antidikias. Kalo einai, loipon, na apofeygontai dhlwseis poy mporei na epibarynoyn to klima sto opoio leitoyrgei to Xrhmatisthrio. Ayto poy prepei oloi na kanoyme ayth thn periodo einai na symbaloyme, wste na yparxei cyxraimia kai staqerothta poy apoteloyn proypoqeseis gia thn anakamch toy Xrhmatisthrioy.

TAKHS: Sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh dwsate thn apanthsh sas, alla xqes o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, milwntas oysiastika akyrwse oloys toys tomeis ths koinwnikhs politikhs poy askei h kybernhsh, giati eipe oti exoyn ginei laqh sxedon pantoy. Akomh kai gia to qema twn taytothtwn ejefrase arnhtikh apoch. Den einai ligo periergo ena prwtoklasato stelexos kai prwtoklasatos ypoyrgos ths kybernhshs na ta blepei ola "mayra", oson afora thn kybernhtikh politikh;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti den ermhneyete swsta ta osa eipe o k. Tsoxatzopoylos.

TAKHS: Egw den ermhneyw, metaferw ti eipe.

REPPAS: Oloi gnwrizoyme ti eipe. O k. Tsoxatzopoylos einai pragmati ena prwtagwnistiko stelexos toy Kinhmatos kai ths kybernhshs. H dikh toy paroysia kai symmetoxh stis politikes ejelijeis sth xwra mas exei katagrafei, einai qetikh kai ayto to gnwrizei o ellhnikos laos. To Kinhma mas exei sygkekrimenh proodeytikh politikh. H politikh poy efarmozoyme gia thn anabaqmish toy koinwnikoy kratoys, thn enisxysh ths koinwnikhs synoxhs kai thn anaptyjiakh poreia ths xwras mas, me isorroph perifereiakh anaptyjh, kineitai akribws sto plaisio toy programmatos poy ejaggeilame ston ellhniko lao kai gia to opoio mas chfise ton Aprilio toy 2000. Ayto einai to plaisio politikhs sto opoio oloi symfwnoyme kai oloi diaqetoyme ton kalytero eayto mas gia na petyxoyme toys stoxoys mas. To idio, metajy olwn, kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Tis teleytaies dyo hmeres exoyn entaqei oi fhmes gia apomakrynsh stelexwn h stelexoys toy oikonomikoy epiteleioy ths kybernhshs. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Tetoioy eidoys fhmes prosferoyn poly arnhtikh yphresia. Prepei, opws eipa kai prin, na yparxei ena klima bebaiothtas, staqerothtas kai cyxraimias. Opoioi diadidoyn tetoies fhmes, eite to kanoyn skopimws, eite den gnwrizoyn poies einai oi arnhtikes synepeies poy prokyptoyn apo tetoioy eidoys fhmes poy oi idioi diaspeiroyn. Kai sth mia kai sthn allh periptwsh einai katakriteoi.

KAPPOS: Diabazontas tis xqesines apanthseis sas, sxetika me th Genoba kai ta metra asfaleias poy elaban ekei, eida mia metabolh se sxesh me dhlwseis poy eixate kanei, prin apo dyo ebdomades, apantwntas se allh erwthsh. Tote eixate milhsei gia symbatikh ypoxrewsh ths Italias na mhn kleisei ta synora ths kai na dexqei thn eleyqerh diakinhsh twn eyrwpaiwn politwn. Qelw na rwthsw, einai toso isxyres aytes oi pieseis poy askoyntai ston kloio twn "15", wste na anastellontai, qa elega, toso katastatikes arxes ths E.E. kai malista eis baros sympolitwn mas; Kai deyteron, na ypobalw, me bash ayth th metabolh ths qeshs sas, thn erwthsh poy eixa kanei kai prin apo dyo ebdomades, an h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei synergastei me tis italikes arxes, prokeimenoy na dwsei onomata h plhrofories gia Ellhnes polites oi opoioi prokeitai na metaboyn sth Genoba.

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia askhsh pieshs, giati oi apofaseis, sto plaisio ths dhmokratikhs E.E., lambanontai me tropo poy deixnei oti oi xwres leitoyrgoyn se isotimh bash. Apo ekei kai pera, h Diaskech sth Genoba den afora thn E.E. kai kyriws thn Ellada. H qesh mas den exei metablhqei. Einai dikaiwma -kai problepetai sth Synqhkh Segken- kaqe xwras, otan qewrei oti yparxei ejairetikos logos, na pairnei analoges apofaseis. Na qetei, dhladh, sygkekrimenoys periorismoys. Ayto poy kanei h italikh kybernhsh, afora thn idia kai ton italiko lao. Ayto poy afora thn Ellada kai ton ellhniko lao, einai h proaspish twn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn ths xwras mas, me prwtoboylies ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. H qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, opws diatypwqhke sto plaisio ths Synodoy twn Ypoyrgwn ths E.E, einai safhs. Den mporei na perioristei to dikaiwma twn Ellhnwn politwn na tajidecoyn ektos Elladas, mono kai mono epeidh kapoioi ypociazontai h enoxopoioyn aytoys toys polites gia tetoia drash sto parelqon, poy odhgei sto symperasma oti mporei, h drash toys ayth, na dhmioyrghsei problhmata sth Genoba.

Deyteron, diafwnhsame me th dhmioyrgia mias eyrwpaikoy epipedoy bashs Proswpikwn Dedomenwn, epeidh ayto antikeitai sto Syntagma kai toys nomoys toy kratoys. Epishs, gnwrizete oti h qesh ths Elladas, oson afora diafores diaskeceis, einai genikws qetikh. Emeis pisteyoyme oti prepei na yparxei epikoinwnia kai synergasia twn xwrwn gia thn antimetwpish qematwn poy einai sxetika kainoyrgia sthn atzenta ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas. Oi kybernhseis qa prepei, metajy twn allwn, na antimetwpisoyn ta problhmata, tis dysmeneis synepeies poy exei h legomenh "pagkosmiopoihsh". Giati, asfalws, prokyptoyn kai tetoies synepeies. Otan h agora dynamwnei, otan oi oikonomikoi paragontes apoktoyn dynatothtes poy den eixan prin, qa prepei oi kybernhseis na qesoyn ena plaisio, periorizontas thn aqemith xrhsh aytwn twn dynatothtwn poy exoyn oi oikonomikes dynameis, oi dynameis agoras. Ara, loipon, qa prepei na blepoyme me qetiko mati th synergasia twn kybernhsewn diaforwn xwrwn, gia tetoioy eidoys qemata. Na mhn eimaste ej orismoy kai ek twn proterwn aporriptikoi. Antiqetws.

Oson afora th xwra mas, yparxei pantote synergasia, gia ola ta qemata, twn armodiwn yphresiwn. Prepei na sas pw, omws, oti oi yphresies mas den exoyn dwsei opoiadhpote enhmerwsh h katalogo me onomata h opoiodhpote allo stoixeio poy na afora thn prosoxh thn opoia prepei na epideijoyn oi italikes arxes gia orismena proswpa h omades toy ellhnikoy plhqysmoy poy, isws, dhlwsoyn paroysia sth Genoba. Sas lew, me kathgorhmatiko tropo, oti apo th dikh mas pleyra, bebaiws yparxei synergasia, alla den prokyptei otidhpote poy na odhgei sthn apostolh tetoiwn stoixeiwn apo tis yphresies mas stis antistoixes yphresies toy italikoy kratoys.

KAPPOS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh, dhladh, blepei oti h Synodos ths G-8 leitoyrgei pros thn peristolh twn dynamewn ths agoras; Kai deyteron, h Ellada arneitai mia kainoyrgia bash dedomenwn. Hdh, omws, einai katastatiko stoixeio ths Synqhkhs Segken h yparjh arxikhs bashs dedomenwn, h opoia leitoyrgei se oloklhrh thn...

REPPAS: Den leitoyrgei, omws, se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Ara, loipon, emeis exoyme th dynatothta, me tis yphresies mas, na exoyme prosbash se ayth th bash, monon efoson ayto einai apolytws aparaithto. Giati, exoyme dhmioyrghsei arxes sto qesmiko plaisio mas, opws einai h Arxh Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn, h leitoyrgia twn opoiwn eggyatai oti ta proswpika dedomena einai aparabiasta kai den ginetai xrhsh aytwn, xwris na yparxei logos, se baros twn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn poy toys aforoyn ayta ta dedomena. Epeita, sth Synodo ayth, oi pio anaptygmenes xwres toy planhth qa syzhthsoyn qemata poy tis aforoyn. Eipa, genikws, oti kaqe synergasia metajy kybernhsewn, metajy twn allwn, prepei na perilambanei kai stoxoys gia thn antimetwpish ths leitoyrgias, kata tropo asydoto, ths pagkosmias agoras. Me ayth thn ennoia, xreiazetai ayth h dieqnhs synergasia. Exoyme mia pragmatikothta. H legomenh "pagkosmiopoihsh" ejelissetai. Den qa prepei na asxolhqoyn oi kybernhseis, synergazomenes, gia thn antimetwpish twn dysmenwn synepeiwn ths "pagkosmiopoihshs"; Qa prepei na synergastoyn kai qa prepei na ginontai tetoioy eidoys diaskeceis. Opws eipa, den prepei na eimaste ej orismoy kai ek twn proterwn antiqetoi se kaqe tetoia dieqnh synergasia.

KOYIN: Oi italikes arxes, mhpws sas edwsan lista h katalogo onomatwn, atomwn poy den epiqymoysan na fygoyn apo thn Ellada;

REPPAS: Den exei antallagei katalogos poy na perilambanei onomata. Sas eipa oti h synergasia einai synexhs. Den exei prokycei otidhpote to opoio qa odhgoyse tis yphresies mas na aposteiloyn katalogo me onomata sto italiko kratos. Oyte exoyme dexqei katalogo me onomata, giati den exoyme otidhpote poy na odhgei sthn anagkh na laboyme mia tetoia prwtoboylia, sto plaisio ayths ths synergasias.

KAPPOS: Mporeite na mas dieykrinisete, loipon, se ti synistatai ayth h synergasia;

REPPAS: Einai h synergasia poy exoyn oi armodies yphresies twn dyo xwrwn gia qemata ths armodiothtas toys. Einai oi yphresies plhroforiwn, oi astynomikes, oi yphresies asfaleias kai tajhs, oi diplwmatikes kai oi yphresies dikaiosynhs. Ola ayta, gnwrizete oti shmera apoteloyn systatika stoixeia ths leitoyrgias ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas. H Ellada den einai apomonwmenh, jekommenh apo to dieqnes periballon. Einai entagmenh sthn E.E. Oi yphresies ths xwras mas, kaqe mia ston tomea ths, synergazontai synexws me tis antistoixes yphresies twn allwn xwrwn ths Eyrwphs. Ayto einai kati poy epiqymoyme kai prepei na ginetai. Einai apolytws qetiko ayto.

Sas eyxaristw.

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