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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Aprilioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Kalh ebdomada. Xronia polla stoys Giwrghdes.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres:

Ayth thn wra brisketai se ejelijh h synedriash ths diypoyrgikhs epitrophs gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Ayrio to prwi, stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei se synergasia ton Ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalh Xrysoxoidh. Argotera, stis 12.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Oykranias Biktor Gioysenko, o opoios episkeptetai th xwra mas. Qa proboyn se sxetikes dhlwseis peripoy stis 13.30 kai qa akoloyqhsei geyma poy paraqetei o Prwqypoyrgos pros timhn toy Oykranoy omologoy toy.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei se synergasia ton Ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Oikonomias Gianno Papantwnioy.

Thn Pempth, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me th symmetoxh kai twn yfypoyrgwn, me qema syzhthshs "h politikh sth Dhmosia Dioikhsh".

Thn Paraskeyh, einai h diaskech toy PASOK, se jenodoxeio ths Aqhnas, gia thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, h opoia arxizei stis 11 to prwi. Qa milhsei o Prwqypoyrgos. Argotera, peripoy stis 15.00, qa dexqei sto grafeio toy, ton episkeptomeno th xwra mas antiproedro ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys kai antiproedro toy aystriakoy koinoboylioy k. Fisser.

Eixe programmatistei gia thn Tetarth, pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh sth Boylh gia thn Oikonomia, h opoia metatiqetai xronika. H nea hmeromhnia qa prosdioristei apo ton Proedro ths Boylhs. H syzhthsh anaballetai, epeidh ekeinh thn hmera h hgesia ths Neas Dhmokratias exei programmatisei allh apasxolhsh.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa ginei kapoia syzhthsh sth Boylh mexri to telos toy mhnos, se epipedo arxhgwn, pro hmerhsias diatajews;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti htan programmatismenh, meta apo aithma ths Neas Dhmokratias, h syzhthsh gia thn Oikonomia. H syzhthsh ayth, epeidh h N.D. exei ston programmatismo ths protajei alla qemata, den mporei na ginei thn epomenh Tetarth. Ara, o Proedros ths Boylhs qa orisei th nea hmeromhnia gia th syzhthsh.

KOTARIDHS: Ta osa anakoinwqhkan thn perasmenh Pempth, apoteloyn sxedio metarryqmishs toy asfalistikoy h proqeseis ths kybernhshs; Giati kati tetoio afhse na ennohqei shmera o k. Prwtopapas ston ANTENNA.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, epeidh dhmioyrgoyntai paranohseis kai kapoia sygxysh, prepei na jekaqarisw, epanalambanontas orismenes basikes arxes, ta ejhs:

Oloi anagnwrizoyn oti prepei na proxwrhsoyme se metarryqmish toy asfalistikoy systhmatos ths xwras. Oloi anagnwrizoyn oti oi prwtoboylies sthn kateyqynsh ths metarryqmishs toy asfalistikoy systhmatos prepei na analhfqoyn twra kai na mhn metateqoyn xronika. Oloi dexontai oti oi basikes arxes poy qa diepoyn ayth th diadikasia metarryqmishs prepei na einai oi arxes ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs, ths allhleggyhs twn genewn, ths dhmioyrgias enos klimatos asfaleias kai bebaiothtas gia toys syntajioyxoys kai toys ergazomenoys, wste na gnwrizoyn ti syntajh qa paroyn kai pote qa thn paroyn. Kai bebaiws, h diadikasia poy prepei na akoloyqhqei den mporei na einai allh apo ayth toy gonimoy dialogoy, me synqesh twn apocewn. Emeis, me thn apofash poy phrame thn prohgoymenh Pempth, kataqesame ena plaisio me diafores protaseis, dhlwnontas poia einai ekeinh, metajy twn pollwn protasewn, poy sygkentrwnei thn kat` arxas protimhsh ths kybernhshs. Dhlwsame, taytoxronws, oti eimaste diateqeimenoi na yioqethsoyme opoiadhpote epoikodomhtikh protash odhgei sto idio apotelesma. Ayto, loipon, shmainei oti oi arxes kai h ajia toy dialogoy prepei na epikrathsoyn. Sth fash ayth eimaste shmera. Kaloyme, loipon, toys etairoys, toys foreis, na kataqesoyn apo th dikh toys pleyra tis ajies logoy protaseis toys, prokeimenoy na ginei oysiastikos, eilikrinhs kai kalopistos dialogos. Xwris dialogo den mporoyme na odhghqoyme se apotelesma. Afoy epiqymoyme oloi na yparxei ena apotelesma -giati oloi anagnwrizoyme oti yparxei ena problhma pros antimetwpish kai lysh- oloi qa prepei na symballoyme, kaqenas apo th dikh toy pleyra, kataqetontas tis dikes toy protaseis. Ayto anamenoyme na kanoyn oles oi alles pleyres, oi politikoi kai koinwnikoi foreis.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, apo th stigmh poy ta syndikata den qeloyn na kanoyn dialogo kai den proserxontai, h kybernhsh ti qa prajei;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, pisteyw oti den einai swsto h syzhthsh ayth na ginetai mesw twn MME kai mono. Asfalws, ta kommata kai oi koinwnikoi foreis exoyn ypoxrewsh na enhmerwsoyn toys polites. Exoyn, omws, taytoxronws ypoxrewsh kai eyqynh na proselqoyn se ena dialogo, wste me syntetagmeno tropo, kataqetontas tis apoceis toys, na anazhthsoyme th lysh sto koino problhma. Einai problhma poy apasxolei th xwra mas kai to synolo twn ergazomenwn politwn.

MIXAHL: Yparxoyn shmeia adiapragmateyta sthn protash poy kataqesate; O dialogos, shmainei antiparaqesh apocewn, shmainei protaseis kai antiprotaseis. Eseis, loipon, dexeste oti se ola ta zhthmata mporei na syzhthqoyn kai antiprotaseis;

REPPAS: Asfalws, efoson katateqoyn antiprotaseis. Kai prepei na tonisw me emfash oti sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy den einai dynato na anazhtoyntai me ypekfyges dromoi, prokeimenoy na apofygei kapoios na analabei tis eyqynes toy. O dialogos den mporei na einai pedio gia na anadeixqoyn nikhtes kai htthmenoi. Lejeis, opws "epikrathsh" h "ypoxwrhsh" h "epibolh" den exoyn qesh se ayto to dialogo. Sto dialogo exei qesh h synqesh twn apocewn. Oi protaseis kai oi antiprotaseis logiko einai na apotelesoyn to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs. H syzhthsh, loipon, gia na jekinhsei, xreiazetai kataqesh kai allwn protasewn aytoy toy eidoys. Ola ayta mporei na apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs.

SOYRMELIDHS: To xrhma poios qa to balei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti pantote mexri twra -kai ayto isxyei pantoy sthn E.E. kai sth dikh mas xwra- to kratos einai o eggyhths, prokeimenoy oi syntajioyxoi na exoyn th bebaiothta oti qa laboyn th syntajh toys.

GIANNISHS: Thn Tetarth, yparxei mia synedriash toy Koinoboyleytikoy Tomea Ergasias toy PASOK gia to asfalistiko. Prokeitai oi armodioi ypoyrgoi na proselqoyn me kapoies enallaktikes protaseis;

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti ayth h synedriash htan programmatismenh gia thn Tetarth me ayto to antikeimeno, alla metatiqetai xronika, afoy htan programmatismenh analogh synedriash gia ayrio to apogeyma, me antikeimeno syzhthshs to eqniko sxedio drashs gia thn apasxolhsh. H ayrianh synedriash toy KTE qa ginei kai antilambaneste pws den mporei para na syzhthqei to asfalistiko zhthma. Kai prepei na sas pw oti ligo prin plhroforhqhka pws o k. Karamanlhs apanthse sthn protash toy ypoyrgoy Ergasias kai prokeitai na synanthqoyn thn erxomenh Tetarth, stis 12.00. Epishs, stis 15.00 qa ginei synanthsh me ton Proedro toy DHKKI k. Tsobola. Ayto shmainei oti o dialogos se ayto to epipedo jekina me ayton akribws ton tropo.

XONDROS: Eipate oti prepei na ginetai o dialogos oxi mono mesw twn MME. H kybernhsh, thn Pempth, eqese ena plaisio kai ektote exoyme to ligotero 10-15 dhmosieymata poy kanoyn logo gia ypoxwrhseis ths kybernhshs se dyo-tria shmeia, sta oria, stis mhteres k.t.l. Ti akribws symbainei;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei diatypwsei ena plaisio paramenei se ayto. Ayto isxyei kai tipota allo. Apo ekei kai pera, anamenei tis protaseis twn allwn forewn, prokeimenoy apo koinoy na anazhthqei h lysh. Ena tetoio qema den prosferetai gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. Kalo einai oloi na epidiwjoyme mia eilikrinh syzhthsh kai epi ths oysias toy problhmatos, giati pantote h sygxysh einai eykolh se qemata poy exoyn polles texnikes leptomereies. Ayto to opoio symbainei einai oti h kybernhsh, me to plaisio poy diatypwse, exei oysiastika dwsei to enaysma gia dialogo. O dialogos aytos prepei na ginei me tropo organwmeno, syntetagmeno kai oloi sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy, qa exoyn th dynatothta na diatypwsoyn me anesh tis apoceis toys, prokeimenoy mesa apo th synqesh twn apocewn na odhghqoyme sto kalytero kai pio wfelimo gia oloys apotelesma.

KOLOKAS: Omws, aytos o dialogos gia na einai epityxhs prepei na exei ki enan koino stoxo apo tis pleyres poy syndialegontai. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean pisteyete oti mporei na breqei ena koino protagma, anamesa stoys koinwnikoys foreis kai sthn protash ths kybernhshs, gia na xrhsimopoihsw th nea orologia toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

REPPAS: Nai, efoson oloi diapistwnoyn kai symfwnoyn oti xreiazetai metarryqmish ki oti prepei twra na analhfqoyn oi sxetikes metarryqmistikes prwtoboylies. Exoyme, hdh, qesei thn prwth bash, to stereo edafos gia na synexisoyme thn prospaqeia mas, wste sto plaisio toy dialogoy, xeirizomenoi epi ths oysias pleon ta sxetika qemata, na anazhthsoyme tis kalyteres lyseis.

KARGOYDH: An katalabainw kala apo oles tis ektimhseis poy dwsate shmera, kaleite se dialogo, toso toys koinwnikoys foreis, oso kai ta politika kommata. Gia paradeigma, h synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Ergasias me ton Proedro ths N.D., sth bash ths apodoxhs toy epeigontos ths metarryqmishs toy asfalistikoy kai monon ayto. Dhladh, toys lete oti efoson symfwnoyme oloi oti twra prepei na proxwrhsoyme sth metarryqmish, elate na syzhthsoyme, oso mas afora se ayth th syzhthsh, emeis qa katebasoyme to x keimeno, tis protaseis toy k. Giannitsh kat arxhn kai anamenoyme tis dikes sas protaseis. To kalesma, dhladh, einai epi toy epeigontos.

REPPAS: Toys kaloyme oloys sth bash ths eyqynhs poy exoyn -kai prepei na deijoyn- prokeimenoy na diatypwsoyn tis apoceis toys gia ena qema poy gnwrizoyn oti yfistatai ws problhma sthn patrida mas kai prepei na to antimetwpisoyme twra. Ypenqymizw oti kata th diarkeia ths prohgoymenhs qhteias mas eixame, se polles periptwseis kai me polles aformes, ejaggeilei thn prwtoboylia poy prokeitai na analaboyme meta to 2000, dhladh meta apo tis ekloges, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyme ayto to qema. Eipame oti einai meizon qema. Ara, loipon, oloi eixan ypoch toys oti gia to qema ayto prokeitai na analhfqoyn prwtoboylies. Oloi exoyn melethsei to qema. Ayto apodeiknyetai oti apo oloys toys foreis, leei o kaqenas th dikh toy apoch. Emeis epiqymoyme oles aytes oi apoceis na katateqoyn kai na syzhthqoyn me organwmeno tropo sto plaisio aytoy toy koinwnikoy dialogoy poy exei eqniko xarakthra.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios zhthse ayth th synanthsh; O k. Karamanlhs h o k. Giannitshs;

REPPAS: O k. Giannitshs exei apeyqynqei stoys politikoys arxhgoys olwn twn kommatwn kai exei zhthsei epikoinwnia, prokeimenoy na toys enhmerwsei gia thn prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs. H antapokrish einai qetikh. Hdh, opws sas anakoinwsa prohgoymenws, prosdioristhkan oi synanthseis toy Ypoyrgoy Ergasias me ton k. Karamanlh kai ton k. Tsobola.

KARGOYDH: Pote o ypoyrgos qa apeyqynqei epishmws stoys syndikalistikoys foreis, sthn bash ayths ths minimoym platformas, oytws wste na proselqoyn se dialogo;

REPPAS: Einai qema ligwn hmerwn. Ayth thn periodo.

MPEKAS: Pws sxoliazete protaseis apo stelexh toy PASOK, opws thn periptwsh toy k. Tsoykatoy shmera, poy jefeygoyn apo to plaisio poy exei dwsei h kybernhsh kai den einai mono o k. Tsoykatos einai kai alloi.

REPPAS: Oloi epiqymoyn na ginei dialogos, prokeimenoy sto plaisio toy dialogoy aytoy na katateqoyn aytes oi apoceis. Den exw dei kapoio stelexos na diatypwnei diaforetikh protash epi ths oysias toy qematos. Oloi zhtoyn na ginei dialogos. Pisteyw oti ayth thn epiqymia qa prepei na th sebastoyn kai oi ekproswpoi twn ergazomenwn, twn asfalismenwn. Na proselqoyn se ayto to dialogo, na kataqesoyn ekei tis apoceis toys, na ekproswphsoyn me ypeyqynothta tis ekatontades xiliades h ta ekatommyria twn politwn poy to qema ayto toys afora amesa. Sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy, na eiste sigoyroi, oti qa melethsoyme thn prosforoterh lysh, giati oloi epiqymoyme thn kalyterh lysh gia ena problhma poy mas afora kai mas endiaferei.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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