Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-04-04

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Aprilioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARGOYDH: Shmera o k. Papantwnioy sto synedrio toy Economist eipe oti polles fores sto egxeirhma ths anaptyjhs aisqanetai monos me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Aisqanetai sthn prospaqeia ayth eksygxronismoy kai anaptyjhs kai o Prwqypoyrgos monos;

REPPAS: Oydeis prepei na aisqanetai monos se ayth thn prospaqeia, dedomenoy oti ta ekatommyria twn politwn poy chfisan to PASOK kai thn kybernhsh mas systrateyontai se ayth thn prospaqeia gia na petyxoyme ton koino skopo. Oloi oi Ellhnes exoyn anagnwrisei tis epityxies ths kybernhshs kata thn prohgoymenh periodo, me koryfaia aythn ths entajhs ths xwras sthn ONE. Pisteyw oti oloi oi Ellhnes epiqymoyn, h kybernhsh na epityxei toys stoxoys poy exei qesei, giati ayto antapokrinetai sto eqniko symferon.

KARGOYDH: Erwtw sto plaisio toy kybernhtikoy sxhmatos, an aisqanontai monoi.

REPPAS: Se ayto sas apanthsa. Mh me rwtate na sas ejhghsw pws mporei ypokeimenikws na noiwqei kaqe politikos.

KARGOYDH: Sas rwthsa gia ton Prwqypoyrgo, an aisqanetai ws epikefalhs ths kybernhshs toy oti den yposthrizetai apo sysswmo to kybernhtiko sxhma.

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai enas laoproblhtos politikos. Exei anadeixqei me thn chfo ths pleiochfias twn Ellhnwn politwn. O Prwqypoyrgos, loipon, epikefalhs ths kybernhshs, exei ayth thn eyqynh na odhghsei th xwra sto mellon. Exei synergates toy toys ypoyrgoys, ta stelexh ths kybernhshs kai toy kommatos. Ara, den einai dynaton na milame gi ayto.

KONTOPOYLOS: Aisqaneste oti yparxei hqiko kai politiko problhma meta thn eisaggelikh parembash gia tis apofaseis sas, meta thn paraithsh toy k. Oikonomidh apo to ESR;

REPPAS: Hqiko kai politiko zhthma yparxei sta myala kapoiwn. To ESR elabe mia apofash. Thn apofash ayth thn elabe omofwnws. Ta praktika einai sth diaqesh pantos endiaferomenoy. Oi eisaggeleis kanoyn kala otan epilegoyn na analaboyn prwtoboylies, qewrwntas pws etsi antapokrinontai sta kaqhkonta toys. Dikh toys armodiothta einai, den prokeitai na th sxoliasw. As kanoyn to ergo toys oso ginetai kalytera. Ayto poy prepei na ginei einai na milhsoyn oloi me th glwssa ths alhqeias. Giati gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn sygkekrimena epixeirhmatika symferonta, ta opoia epidiwkoyn na prowqhsoyn toys dikoys toys skopoys. Dikaiwma toys einai na to kanoyn, alla panw ap ola oloi prepei na sebomaste th nomimothta. Oi eisaggeleis qa kanoyn th dikh toys ereyna, qa anamenoyme ta porismata toys kai o kaqenas qa prepei na analabei tis eyqynes toy.

KONTOPOYLOS: Den nomizete dhladh oti yparxei qema@

REPPAS: Se mia syntetagmenh politeia h kybernhsh einai ayth poy kaqodhgei tis ejelijeis. Oi dikastikoi exoyn sygkekrimeno rolo. Den kybernoyn.

KONTOPOYLOS: Sas exei enoxlhsei ayth h parembash;

REPPAS: Kamia enoxlhsh. Gia thn ejelijh twn pragmatwn enoxloyntai profanws sygkekrimenoi foreis poy exoyn sygkekrimena kai gnwsta se oloys symferonta ta opoia prospaqoyn na prowqhsoyn. Dikaiwma toys. Alla prepei na to kanoyn pantote sto plaisio ths nomimothtas. Ayto einai to plaisio poy mas desmeyei oloys. Kai pisteyw oti h ereyna ayth einai poly xrhsimh, giati me thn oloklhrwsh ths qa gnwrizoyn oloi pws exoyn ta pragmata. Kai tote para polla, poy shmera legontai kata tropo ceydh kai atekmhriwto, qa katapesoyn.

ARGYROS: O k. Papantwnioy eipe shmera to prwi oti yparxoyn proswpa, ta opoia, ta teleytaia 25 xronia, exoyn syndeqei me apotyxies. Yparxoyn tetoia proswpa sthn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Den yparxoyn sthn antipoliteysh politikoi paragontes, oi opoioi otan askhsan kybernhtika kaqhkonta odhghsan se apoklish th xwra mas apo tis alles xwres ths E.E.; Den yparxoyn politikoi sthn antipoliteysh se ola ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, poy askoyn mia kritikh sthn kybernhsh, h opoia apo tis ejelijeis den epibebaiwqhke pote kai leitoyrgoyn monimws ws ``Kassandres'' kai den koyrasthkan na exoyn enan tetoio rolo; Se aytoys anaferetai o k. Papantwnioy.

ARGYROS: Prin apo ligo, o Grammateas toy PASOK eipe oti sto PASOK yparxei mia paqogeneia. Kai kalese ton Prwqypoyrgo kai to Ektelestiko Grafeio na anatrecoyn ayth thn poreia. Exete ypoch sas an qa analabei tetoia prwtoboylia o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, h eikona pragmatika den antistoixei sthn pragmatikothta ths kybernhshs kai toy PASOK. Adikei, qa elega, h eikona ayth thn pragmatikothta. Kai prepei oloi na doylecoyme kai na doylecoyme poly, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme, wste h eikona h opoia anadeiknyetai na einai antistoixh me thn pragmatikothta poy mas xarakthrizei. Kata ta alla, o Prwqypoyrgos, ws epikefalhs ayths ths syllogikhs prospaqeias ths kybernhshs kai toy kommatos, dinei to paradeigma ths synepeias kai ths ergatikothtas, prokeimenoy na fqasoyme stoys stoxoys mas. Kai oloi, o kaqenas me to diko toy tropo, apo th dikh toy pleyra, symbaloyme sto na petyxoyme ton koino stoxo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos prokeitai na apomakrynei toys ejwkoinoboyleytikoys ypoyrgoys apo thn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei sygkrothsei ena kybernhtiko sxhma, to opoio einai gnwsto se sas. Synexizei ayto to kybernhtiko sxhma na askei ta kaqhkonta toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh eqije to qema kai o k. Giannopoylos, poly sklhra malista, exei labei ypoch toy tis dhlwseis toy k. Giannopoyloy;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos elabe ypoch toy, thn wra poy sygkrothse thn kybernhsh, ola ekeina ta stoixeia poy eprepe na synektimhsei, prokeimenoy na sygkrothsei ayto to kybernhtiko sxhma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta ta osa exoyn lexqei gia ton k. Pantagia, mhpws skeftetai na ton apomakrynei apo to Majimoy;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ta stelexh den anhkoyn se diaforetikes kathgories. Den yparxoyn stelexh meiwmenwn dikaiwmatwn. O k. Pantagias ekfrazei tis apoceis toy -proswpikes apoceis- xwris na desmeyei kanenan. Exei to dikaiwma ayto, opws kaqe allo stelexos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai, omws, dipla ston Prwqypoyrgo. Ekfrazei dikes toy apoceis;

REPPAS: Kaqenas dhlwnei pote ekfrazei proswpikes toy apoceis. Ki egw exw sygkekrimena kaqhkonta, ayto omws de me desmeyei se tetoio baqmo, wste, kapoia stigmh, milwntas sto plaisio mias synenteyjhs, na mhn ekfrazw tis proswpikes moy apoceis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den yparxei mia koinh grammh sthn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H grammh einai koinh kai einai ayth poy xarassetai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ta stelexh ths kybernhshs. Ta organa ths kybernhshs apofasizoyn gia th grammh ayth. Ayth th grammh prowqoyme oloi. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, se ena polysyllektiko komma opws einai to PASOK, yparxoyn stelexh ta opoia diatypwnoyn apoceis gia diafora qemata, wste mesa apo ayto to gonimo dialogo kai th synqesh twn apocewn na katalhgoyme sth grammh poy prepei na akoloyqhsoyme kai na efarmosoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den einai diafora qemata, einai eqnika qemata. Mporei na yparxei mesa sthn kybernhsh kai allh apoch gia ta eqnika qemata;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia allh kybernhtikh apoch. H grammh poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh gia ta eqnika qemata einai poly sygkekrimenh, einai gnwsth se esas. Apo th grammh ayth den exoyme metakinhqei oyte keraia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, h synomospondia sthn Kypro einai grammh ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Apo poy prokyptei ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo ton k. Pantagia.

REPPAS: Prokyptei to entelws antiqeto. Gia na mhn sas kalesw na anatrejete sto sygkekrimeno arqro to opoio profanws epikaleiste, gia na deite oti kai sto arqro ayto den yparxei tetoia protash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pws den yparxei;

REPPAS: Sas lew oti gia to sygkekrimeno qema h grammh einai dedomenh. H qesh ayth einai safhs, einai gnwsth. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh.

SOYRMELIDHS: H prospaqeia ths Agkyras na anakinhsei ena meionotiko qema sth Rodo kai sthn Kw, proagei tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, h Ekqesh ayth einai h ethsia taktikh Ekqesh kaqe presbeias pros to Kentro, pros to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn gia ta pepragmena toy prohgoymenoy xronoy. Logiko einai se mia tetoia Ekqesh na periexontai ektimhseis h na ginontai protaseis. H kybernhsh mas exei mia safh meionotikh politikh, h opoia sthrizetai stis diatajeis ths Synqhkhs ths Lozanhs. Ginetai anafora sth qrhskeytikh meionothta sth Qrakh. H meionotikh politikh mas sthrizetai se ayto akribws. Tipote allo, peran aytoy, den mporei na syzhthqei. Kata t` alla, h Ellada kanei xrhsh twn nomimwn dikaiwmatwn ths, oson afora thn amyna ths, symfwna kai me ton Katastatiko Xarth toy OHE. Sas parapempw sto arqro 52 toy Katastatikoy Xarth, wste na mhn tiqetai opoiodhpote qema pros syzhthsh. Den yparxei, loipon, kanena problhma poy qa prepei na antimetwpisoyme. Ola ayta exoyn antimetwpistei. Mporei na pei kaneis oti exoyn lyqei, wste den yfistantai ws problhmata.

KAPPOS: Sto idio qema. Sthn Ekqesh ginetai anafora kai gia synexeis proseggiseis toyrkikwn polemikwn skafwn sthn perioxh twn Imiwn. Qa hqela na rwthsw, an aisqanetai h kybernhsh oti ejakoloyqei apo thn pleyra ths Agkyras mia anaqewrhtikh prospaqeia se o,ti afora thn periptwsh twn Imiwn.

REPPAS: Ginetai mia apotypwsh drasthriothtwn, opws einai oi parabiaseis enaerioy xwroy h oi parabaseis kanonwn enaerias kykloforias h h kinhsh diaforwn ploiwn. Apo ekei kai pera, h apotypwsh ayths ths katastashs den einai tipota allo, para h apotypwsh ths pragmatikothtas. Emeis prepei na synexisoyme thn politikh mas, etsi wste, me skopo to amoibaio symferon, me sebasmo sto Dieqnes Dikaio, na synyparxoyme se ayth thn perioxh. Ayth einai h politikh mas.

Sas eyxaristw.

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