Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-04-03

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 3 Aprilioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Na sas enhmerwsw symplhrwmatikws gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Telikws, oi synanthseis poy qa exei ayrio qa einai oi ejhs: Stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei ton k. Solana. Stis 11.15 ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Albanias k. Meta. Stis 12.30 ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Serbias k. Tzitzits. Stis 13.30 ton omospondiako Prwqypoyrgo ths Gioygkoslabias k. Zizits. To apogeyma, stis 7.30, qa dexqei ton k. Peres.

Den qa erqoyn, telikws, sthn Ellada oi hgetes twn Skopiwn, opws eixe problefqei.

Thn Pempth, opws gnwrizete, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai to apogeyma ths idias hmeras, sto Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa ginei syskech gia to asfalistiko qema, me th symmetoxh toy k. Papantwnioy, toy k. Giannitsh kai toy k. Farmakh, kaqws kai synergatwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy epi oikonomikwn qematwn.

Thn Paraskeyh, opws sas exw anakoinwsei, qa ginei syzhthsh sth Boylh me omilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn politikwn arxhgwn kai qa akoloyqhsoyn oi chfofories gia tis ypo anaqewrhsh diatajeis toy Syntagmatos.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Hrqe h ekqesh apo toys Bretanoys gia to asfalistiko;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei oti to keimeno poy anamenetai apo ton bretaniko oiko exei dyo tmhmata: To ena einai to diapistwtiko, gia to pws dhladh einai h katastash thn opoia apotypwnei. To deytero tmhma periexei enallaktikes protaseis. Prepei na sas pw oti to prwto tmhma ayths ths ergasias anamenetai apo hmera se hmera. Den to exei sth diaqesh toy o armodios ypoyrgos. Einai pantws qema aytwn twn hmerwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai ti qa syzhthsoyn, afoy den qa exoyn oyte to diapistwtiko, efoson ayto exete san "tyflosoyrth" gia na proxwrhsete;

REPPAS: Qa syzhthsoyn, epeidh akribws einai oi kat` ejoxhn armodioi. Asxoloyntai me to qema ayto kai to gnwrizoyn poly kala. H meleth poy kanei o Bretanos symboylos einai ergaleio kai pisteyw oti h ergasia ayth qa einai ychloy epipedoy, prokeimenoy na ftasoyme sta kalytera apotelesmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws mporeite na sxoliasete tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Pagkaloy;

REPPAS: Exoyme, kat` epanalhch, milhsei gia tis qeseis toy k. Pagkaloy kai ton tropo me ton opoio tis ekfrazei. O k. Pagkalos epanalambanei kai epanalambanetai.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei politikh kontra metajy toy k. Shmith kai toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy;

REPPAS: O k. Shmiths einai o Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras, epikefalhs ths kybernhshs, kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos einai ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas kai melos ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

SOYGLERHS: Ektos apo ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai ton k. Pagkalo yparxoyn kai dhlwseis toy k. Arsenh, kata toy k. Shmith.

REPPAS: Kaqenas diatypwnei tis apoceis toy, oi opoies einai sebastes.

SOYGLERHS: Einai eyxaristhmenos o Prwqypoyrgos, dioti edw kai mia ebdomada@

REPPAS: Emeis qa eimaste eyxaristhmenoi thn wra poy kai pali qa kriqoyme apo ton ellhniko lao me epityxia, afoy qa exoyme oloklhrwsei, sto plaisio ayths ths kybernhtikhs qhteias, to ergo poy mas aneqese me thn chfo kai thn empistosynh toy.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epi ths oysias qelw na rwthsw to ejhs: Kalliergeitai h aisqhsh oti yparxei kapoia "mayrh trypa" ston Proypologismo kai gi ayto to logo ginontai aytes oi anadiarqrwseis kai oi perikopes toy ejoplistikoy programmatos. Ti lete ep aytoy;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei, kat` epanalhch, se sxetikes erwthseis. Eipa oti oi apofaseis poy phre h Kybernhtikh Epitroph thn prohgoymenh ebdomada exoyn sxesh me tis dhmosionomikes prooptikes ths xwras gia ta eth 2002, 2003 kai 2004. O Proypologismos toy 2001 exei apofasistei, efarmozetai, ekteleitai kanonika, einai ajiopistos oson afora thn ektelesh toy kai qa exoyme kala apotelesmata, me thn ennoia oti qa ejasfalisoyme kai to pleonasma, opws akribws eixe problefqei. Kata ta alla den tiqetai qema "mayrhs trypas". Antiqetws, qa elega, oti prokeitai mallon gia "mayrh" propaganda, thn opoia systhmatika prowqoyn oi politikoi antipaloi mas. Ekeinoi poy gia polla xronia prospaqoyn na mas peisoyn oti h poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias den einai anodikh. Toys dieceysan oi ejelijeis. H idia h pragmatikothta einai o antipalos toys. Dieqneis Organismoi, oi pantes anagnwrizoyn thn isxy ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Qa prepei, loipon, na stamathsoyn aytoy toy eidoys tis skiamaxies, giati "mayrh trypa" den yparxei. Yparxei, qa elega, h megalh qlich kapoiwn, epeidh h kybernhsh apofasizei na tonwsei akomh perissotero thn koinwnikh ptyxh ths politikhs ths. Ayto apaitei o ellhnikos laos. Ayto einai symfyto me to xarakthra mias proodeytikhs Kybernhshs kai ayto prepei na ginei.

KALARITHS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia th xqesinh synanthsh toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy me ton k. Papoytsh, giati apo oso gnwrizoyme h synanthsh den htan gia synergasia ypoyrgeiwn, alla gia tis trexoyses ejelijeis.

REPPAS: Den einai paradojo na synantwntai ypoyrgoi, na syzhtoyn kai na synergazontai.

BITALHS: Lete oti se kapoioys prokalei qlich, epeidh h kybernhsh prospaqei na tonwsei thn koinwnikh politikh ths. Dhladh kai se stelexh toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Milhsa gia toys politikoys antipaloys. Gnwrizete poioi einai oi politikoi antipaloi. Einai aytoi poy epidiwkoyn h kybernhsh na mhn oloklhrwsei to ergo ths h epidiwkoyn thn ptwsh ths. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia poy sthrizei ayth thn kybernhsh, einai dedomenh kai sympaghs.

EYSTAQIOY: O k. Pagkalos, se synenteyjh toy, dierwthqhke an exei allajei h politikh ths kybernhshs sta ellhnotoyrkika kai to Kypriako kai an einai etsi, tote qa prepei na pame se ekloges, prokeimenoy na milhsei o laos. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: Exw pei, kat` epanalhch, oti h politikh poy efarmozoyme einai ayth poy ejaggeilame ston ellhniko lao kai poy desmeyqhkame na efarmosoyme. Einai qema synepeias gia emas na oloklhrwsoyme, me epityxia malista, ayth thn politikh. Kai ayto kanoyme.

EYSTAQIOY: Epeidh milame panta gia koinwnikh politikh, mhpws kai pali einai eykairia h Ellada na paraithqei apo th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, prokeimenoy na ejoikonomhqoyn 700 dis draxmes;

REPPAS: Kanoyme thn katallhlh proetoimasia. H Ellada einai mia qewroymenh mikrh xwra gia ena toso megalo egxeirhma. Exoyme analabei th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004 kai qa organwqoyn me apolyth epityxia.

EYSTAQIOY: Exete kapoio sxolio gia thn paraithsh Oikonomidh apo to ESR;

REPPAS: Kanena sxolio. O k. Oikonomidhs eixe mia allh apoch thn opoia yposthrije me thn chfo toy, sth synedriash toy ESR. Diatypwnei tis apoceis toy.

EYSTAQIOY: Den dhmioyrgeitai qema se o,ti afora tis apofaseis sto qema me tis keraies;

REPPAS: Parakalw na rwthsete aytoys poy chfizoyn kai pairnoyn tis apofaseis. Egw den symmeteixa se ayth th synedriash, den chfisa. Epishs, prepei na sas pw, afoy qetete deyterh erwthsh gia to idio qema, oti h protash toy k. Oikonomidh -etsi opws prokyptei apo thn epistolh paraithshs toy- einai oti oi oktw staqmoi poy qa epitrapei na synexisoyn na leitoyrgoyn, na einai oi oktw kaloymenoi epilaxontes apo ton pinaka ajiologhshs poy exei katartisei to ESR, sto plaisio ths prwths diagwnistikhs diadikasias. An loipon, ekane ayth thn epilogh to ESR -poy mporoyse na thn kanei- egw eixa desmeyqei ek twn proterwn na thn yioqethsw, opws kai kaqe epilogh toy. Pantws, oi praktikes synepeies qa htan idies gia kapoioys staqmoys. Gia paradeigma, staqmoi oi opoioi kai shmera den symperilambanontai ston katalogo twn oktw staqmwn kai askoyn drimeia kritikh, kai sthn periptwsh ekeinh poy qa isxye o katalogos twn staqmwn poy exei katartisei to ESR sto plaisio ths prwths diagwnistikhs diadikasias kai pali qa apokleiontan. Den perilambanontai se aytoys toys 28 staqmoys, eite miloyme gia to staqmo "Lamch" poy einai ston ariqmo 44, eite miloyme gia radiofwnikoys staqmoys poy einai synergazomenoi ston idio omilo me thn thleorash, sthn opoia ergazeste kai eseis, kai pali einai peran aytoy toy ariqmoy. To praktiko apotelesma, dhladh, qa htan to idio. Gia ola ayta, omws, ta melh toy ESR exoyn to logo. Einai aytonomes proswpikothtes kai kaqenas pairnei thn eyqynh gi` ayta poy leei kai ayta poy kanei.

EYSTAQIOY: Pantws ayth h paraithsh akoloyqei mia alysida prohgoymenwn paraithsewn. Gi ayto mpainei to qema.

REPPAS: Den nomizw oti sxetizetai me ayto. Giati o k. Oikonomidhs eixe thn eyqynh ths chfoy toy, chfise symmetexontas se ayth th diadikasia...

EYSTAQIOY: Omws, ton eixe ypodeijei to PASOK.

REPPAS: Exw pei kat epanalhch oti to ESR einai Anejarthth Arxh. Asfalws, ypodeiknyontai apo ta politika kommata -mexri twra- ta melh toy ESR, alla ayto den shmainei oti einai ekproswpoi kommatwn. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, kat epanalhch, exw tonisei pws den einai swsth, einai idiotyph h sygkrothsh toy ESR, afoy apotelei Anejarthth Arxh. Gi ayto akribws me to nomo 2863, gia thn peraiterw anabaqmish toy ESR, exoyme proxwrhsei se enan allo tropo sygkrothshs toy Symboylioy kai oxi me ypodeijh twn melwn toy apo ta politika kommata. Ayto exei chfistei kai isxyei apo ton prohgoymeno Noembrio. Me thn oloklhrwsh twn diadikasiwn gia thn Anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, o Proedros ths Boylhs qa analabei th sxetikh prwtoboylia, afoy sto plaisio koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, pleon, qa epilegontai ta melh toy ESR.

EYSTAQIOY: Giati wstoso den sygkaloyntai oi armodies Epitropes ths Boylhs, Morfwtikwn Ypoqesewn, Texnologias k.lp. prokeimenoy oi boyleytes na ekfrasoyn gnwmh peri twn ejelijewn se sxesh me...

REPPAS: Ayto afora eswteriko qema ths Boylhs. Den afora thn kybernhsh kai poly perissotero den afora emas. Th qesh mas thn exoyme diatypwsei. Den sygkaloyme emeis aytes tis Epitropes. Den to gnwrizete ayto; Den gnwrizete oti o Kanonismos ths Boylhs exei problecei gi ayta;

EYSTAQIOY: Esas, omws, de sas apasxolei, den eishgeisqe oti prepei na sygkrotoyntai aytes oi Epitropes;

REPPAS: Egw to eishgoymai ayto; Exw diatypwsei th qesh moy, apo thn prwth stigmh, gi ola ayta ta qemata.

MOSXOBAS: Qa hqela ena diko sas sxolio gia th dhlwsh -an th metaferw swsta, thn akoysa sto radiofwno erxomenos- toy k. Ebert, poy kalese toys staqmoys poy den phran adeia na synexisoyn na ekpempoyn, kalwntas toys na mh skefqoyn to epipedo nomimothtas, kaqws se synqhkes ``epanastashs'' ayto den isxyei, kapws etsi, an to metaferw swsta.

REPPAS: Apo th mia mas kaloyn na sebastoyme th nomimothta, apo thn allh mas kaloyn na mh sebomaste kai na parabiazoyme th nomimothta. Aytoy toy eidoys h antipoliteysh, apokalyptei me ton kalytero tropo oti kapoioi den exoyn politiko prosanatolismo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Milhsate pali gia politikoys antipaloys. Ma, ayth thn periodo, den sas kanei kritikh kapoios politikos antipalos. Kritikh sas kanoyn oi ypoyrgoi, opws o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, ta stelexh, o k. Pagkalos, o k. Arsenhs kai o k. Katsanebas. Aytoi sas kanoyn kritikh. Se aytoys apeyqyneste; Aytoi einai oi politikoi antipaloi;

REPPAS: Yparxei o koinos noys kai mh to agnoeite, giati para ta osa legontai peri toy antiqetoy, egw pisteyw oti o koinoys noys yparxei. Politikoi antipaloi gia mas den yparxoyn mesa sto PASOK, mesa sthn kybernhsh. Oi politikoi antipaloi einai ektos PASOK. Kai gnwrizete, otan milw gia politikoys antipaloys, se poioys anaferomai. Sta kommata ths antipoliteyshs.

SOYGLERHS: H paraithsh toy k. Oikonomidh synodeyetai apo kataggelies oti den toy exoyn doqei ta praktika, gia th moriodothsh twn staqmwn.

REPPAS: Na apeyqynqeite sto k. Oikonomidh. Giati den rwtate ton k. Oikonomidh, den kanete ena kalo reportaz; Erxeste edw kai qelete na syzhthsoyme gia ola ta qemata xwris na kanete mia prospaqeia na ta diereynhsete ki eseis, afoy sas endiaferoyn toso; Eseis, sta Mesa poy ergazeste fantazomai oti, exete endiaferon na anadeijete ayta ta qemata.

SOYGLERHS: Ma, einai dynaton o k. Oikonomidhs na paraithqhke etsi; Qa paraithqhke gia kapoio logo.

REPPAS: Giati den rwtate ton k. Oikonomidh; Eseis se poia Mesa ergazeste, gia na dw poso asxoleiste me to qema poy mas lete twra edw;

SOYGLERHS: Se radiofwno ths Qessalonikhs kai to qema me endiaferei para poly. Na rwthsw kati allo, loipon: Dekapente radiofwnikoi staqmoi prosefygan sto Symboylio ths Epikrateias. Kainoyrgies prosfyges, oi opoies qa syzhthqoyn to Septembrio. Ti ginetai me aytoys, pws qa antimetwpisei h kybernhsh ayth thn katastash;

REPPAS: Sto plaisio ayths ths diadikasias, sto Symboylio ths Epikrateias.

SOYGLERHS: Mexri tote ti ginetai;

REPPAS: Mexri tote isxyoyn oi apofaseis poy exoyn ekdoqei.

MOSXOBAS: Qelw mia dieykrinhsh se kati poy apanthsate xqes. O k. Tsoxatzopoylos sth synenteyjh toy sto Kyriakatiko ``BHMAgkazino'', anefere me safhneia oti den exei symfwnhsei sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia toys ejoplismoys kai parepemce sto KYSEA. H kybernhsh epanalambanei thn apoch oti qa perikopoyn sygkekrimena kondylia apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas h to qema parapempetai sto KYSEA;

REPPAS: Exoyme milhsei me leptomereies gia thn apofash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Paramenoyme sta osa eipame kai sas parapempw se ayta poy apanthsa tis prohgoymenes hmeres.

Sas eyxaristw.

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