Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-04-02

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 2 Aprilioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Kalo mhna.

O Prwqypoyrgos apoce qa ekfwnhsei omilia sto balkaniko foroym ths Qessalonikhs. Ayrio, qa exei synomilies me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Boylgarias k. Kostof, sto Kyberneio ths polhs. Oi synomilies qa arxisoyn stis 10.30 to prwi kai stis 11.30 oi dyo politikoi qa paraxwrhsoyn synenteyjh Typoy.

Thn Tetarth, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synanthseis me politikoys paragontes jenwn xwrwn, oi opoioi qa briskontai sthn Ellada me aformh allo synedrio oikonomikoy periexomenoy poy ginetai sthn Aqhna. Metajy twn allwn qa synanthqei me ton k. Solana, ton k. Meta, ton k. Tzitzits, ton k. Gkeorgkiefski, ton k. Tserbenkofski kai ton k. Peres.

Thn Pempth qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me antikeimeno syzhthshs to dixty koinwnikhs allhleggyhs, me eishghtes ton k. Giannitsh kai ton k. Papadopoylo.

Thn Paraskeyh qa synedriasei h Boylh. Einai h teleytaia synedriash, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Qa milhsoyn o Prwqypoyrgos kai oi politikoi arxhgoi kai qa akoloyqhsoyn oi chfofories.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOYATAR: Exoyme kapoio neo gia to an qa erqei h oxi o k. Arafat gia na labei meros sto oikonomiko foroym kai an synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: To oikonomiko ayto synedrio to organwnei idiwtikos foreas. To programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy den problepei tetoia synanthsh kai profanws den anamenetai h eleysh sthn Aqhna toy Palaistinioy hgeth. An allajei kati qa sas enhmerwsw egkairws.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia to oti ton teleytaio kairo amfisbhteitai toso o Prwqypoyrgos, oso kai h kybernhsh apo koryfaia stelexh, toso ths kybernhshs, oso kai toy PASOK, opws ekanan xqes kai shmera o k. Tsoxatzopoylos kai o k. Pagkalos poy amfisbhthsan oxi mono ton Prwqypoyrgo, alla kai thn politikh ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Oydeis amfisbhtei ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn politikh ths kybernhshs. Kaqenas diatypwnei tis dikes toy apoceis kai oloi epiqymoyn h kybernhsh na epityxei toys stoxoys poy exei qesei. Exoyme desmeytei apenanti ston ellhniko lao na efarmosoyme ena programma. Ta apotelesmata poy qa epityxoyme, efarmozontas ayth thn politikh gia thn ylopoihsh aytoy toy programmatos, qa apotelesoyn kai th lydia liqo thn wra poy qa mas krinei kai pali o laos stis epomenes ekloges. H prospaqeia einai koinh. Kaqenas me to diko toy tropo, apo th dikh toy pleyra, apo th qesh poy katexei, symballei wste na epityxoyme se ayton ton koino skopo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den ton enoxlei ton Prwqypoyrgo, otan ena koryfaio stelexos kai ths kybernhshs kai toy kommatos leei oti den qeloyme diaxeiristes, alla qeloyme hgetes me orama;

REPPAS: o Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai me toys ypoyrgoys, me toys boyleytes, me ta stelexh toy kommatos. Exei eklegei apo ton ellhniko lao. Den qa htan pragmatikothta -fernw ena paradeigma- h entajh ths xwras mas sthn ONE, an h politikh mas den perieixe kai to stoixeio toy oramatos. H pragmatikothta einai ayth poy dinei apanthsh stoys politikoys antipaloys ths kybernhshs kai h pragmatikothta ayth einai poly kalh se sxesh me to parelqon. Oloi mazi, osoi anhkoyme se ayth thn kybernhsh, se ayth thn paratajh, doyleyoyme gia na kanoyme akomh kalyterh th xwra mas sto problepto mellon.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan lete politikoys antipaloys ths kybernhshs poioys ennoeite, ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai ton k. Pagkalo;

REPPAS: Ekana antidiastolh. Eipa gia toys politikoys antipaloys ths kybernhshs kai milhsa gi aytoys poy einai symmetoxoi se ayth thn prospaqeia ths kybernhshs kai ths paratajhs gia na kanoyme kalytero to mellon ths xwras.

MIXAHL: H oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs phgainei kala;

REPPAS: Phgainei kala, doqentos oti o Proypologismos toy 2001, opws exei katartistei kai chfistei sth Boylh, ekteleitai kanonikws kai pisteyoyme oti qa exei, sto telos ths ekteleshs toy, ta apotelesmata poy exoyme problecei.

MIXAHL: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos poy basizei thn apoch toy oti den paei kala h oikonomikh politikh kai oti yparxei kapoio problhma;

REPPAS: Den eqese tetoio qema. Oydeis amfisbhthse thn oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs, h opoia allwste eixe apofasistei se seira synedriasewn twn organwn ths. H oikonomikh politikh opws efarmozetai ejelissetai ikanopoihtika. Xreiazetai, bebaiws, pantote na eimaste se egrhgorsh. Den prepei na efhsyxazoyme, giati antilambaneste oti ayto poy exoyme petyxei, prepei na to diasfalizoyme. H entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE kai to plaisio poy orizetai apo to Symfwno Staqerothtas gia thn politikh poy prepei na akoloyqhsoyme, einai paragontes poy etsi ki alliws den mporei na agnohqoyn. Exoyme sygkekrimenes ypoxrewseis kai sto plaisio aytwn twn ypoxrewsewn prepei na diarqrwsoyme tis proteraiothtes mas. Prwth proteraiothta mas einai h enisxysh ths koinwnikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs. Ayto eipame ston ellhniko lao, stis teleytaies ekloges. Ayto einai to prwto melhma mas ki ekei rixnoyme to megalo baros. Giati apo thn politikh mas se ayto ton tomea, qa kriqoyme kai pisteyoyme oti qa epaneklegoyme apo toys Ellhnes polites. Mhn jexnate oti ayto einai apolyta synyfasmeno me thn prospaqeia gia thn oikonomikh anaptyjh kai th beltiwsh ths antagwnistikothtas ths oikonomias ths xwras mas. Diaforetika, den einai dynato na miloyme gia koinwnikh politikh. Ola ayta, bebaiws, einai allhlendeta, alla oi proteraiothtes mas exoyn aposafhnistei me tetoio tropo, wste na mhn epitrepetai se opoiondhpote na amfisbhtei to programma mas.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela ena sxolio gia thn epanakamch toy k. Soyflia sth N.D. Kai pws apanta h kybernhsh sthn eikona syspeirwshs poy qelei na dwsei h N.D. otan yparxoyn diafwnies ypoyrgwn;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola h kinhsh toy k. Soyflia apotelei eswteriko qema ths N.D. Den afora thn kybernhsh, den afora to PASOK. O k. Soyflias oydepote yphrje melos h stelexos toy PASOK. Qymizw oti htan ypochfios gia thn hgesia ths N.D. To oti ginetai dektos me ayto ton tropo sth N.D. qa mporoyse na odhghsei sto symperasma oti, epi peripoy tria xronia h politikh poy akoloyqoyse h hgesia N.D. apenanti ston k. Soyflia htan laqos. Kata ta alla, to Synedrio ths N.D. den thn odhghse se mia nea kommatikh pragmatikothta. H epomenh hmera toy Synedrioy briskei th N.D. sthn idia katastash apo apoch elleichs programmatos h ideologikhs kai politikhs sygxyshs, sthn opoia briskotan kai thn prohgoymenh hmera toy Synedrioy. Oson afora twra to qema ths syspeirwshs, gnwrizete oti ena xrono meta tis ekloges, h kybernhsh exei arxisei na efarmozei to programma poy exei ejaggeilei ston ellhniko lao. Qa kriqoyme oloi kai h kybernhsh kai h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh apo ta apotelesmata ths politikhs mas, para to oti h kybernhsh brisketai se dysxeresterh qesh, epeidh prepei na efarmozei mia politikh kai oxi aplws na einai paroysa me tis ejaggelies kai tis qeseis ths. Qa kriqoyme thn wra poy oi polites qa proselqoyn kai pali sthn kalph. Einai nwris akomh gia na bgalete oristika symperasmata. Na eiste sigoyroi, omws, oti thn wra ths kalphs qa exoyme ayth th sxesh me ton ellhniko lao, wste na kerdisoyme kai pali thn empistosynh toy.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pente hmeres meta thn enarjh ths leitoyrgias toy neoy aerodromioy, ta problhmata synexizontai, o kosmos talaipwreitai, alla parallhla talaipwreitai kai h diakinhsh twn efhmeridwn. Kai h Krhth kai ta alla nhsia edw kai treis hmeres den pairnoyn efhmerides. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: H enarjh leitoyrgias enos neoy aerodromioy odhgei se tetoia problhmata. To fainomeno ayto ekdhlwnetai pantote otan jekina h leitoyrgia enos neoy aerodromioy. Gnwrizetai oti, kyriws, ta problhmata prokyptoyn logw ths elleichs syntonismoy metajy twn systhmatwn allwn forewn kai twn yphresiwn toy aerodromioy. Kaqe arxh einai dyskolh, alla me kalh prospaqeia kai th symbolh olwn, sth synexeia h katastash ginetai omalh. Etsi kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh h arxh einai dyskolh, alla syntoma h katastash qa einai omalh. Sto plaisio aytwn twn problhmatwn, logiko einai na exoyme kai tetoies adynamies diakinhshs toy Typoy. Einai mia paraleich kai ofeiloyn oloi osoi xeirizontai aytes tis leitoyrgies na zhthsoyn sygnwmh apo toys polites poy talaipwroyntai, akomh kai apo toys polites poy steroyntai thn entyph kaqhmerinh enhmerwsh. Pisteyw oti ola ayta apoteloyn mia parenqesh. Syntoma qa ta qymomaste san mia anamnhsh kai mono.

BITALHS: Qa moy epitrecete na epanelqw sto qema toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy. O ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas eqese ena qema, legontas oti den gnwrize h den eixan doqei kapoia stoixeia, oti den mporei na ylopoihqoyn aytes oi ejaggelies ths kybernhshs peri koinwnikhs politikhs. Kai yposthrije akomh oti yphrjan kapoia gegonota ta opoia den elhfqhsan ypoch, oyte apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, oyte apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, anaforika me kapoia zhthmata oikonomikhs politikhs. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: Ta epimeroys qemata exoyn syzhthqei metajy twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn. Ennow ta qemata poy aforoyn tis dapanes gia ejoplismoys, ta opoia syzhthqhkan metajy twn ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas kai Eqnikhs Oikonomias. Ta qemata genikhs politikhs apofasizontai sta kybernhtika organa. H oikonomikh kai koinwnikh politikh ths kybernhshs apofasisthke sto plaisio ths synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Apo ekei kai pera, kaqe allo kybernhtiko organo poy exei armodiothta gia ena sygkekrimeno tomea, ejeidikeyei ayth thn politikh poy apofasizei h K.E. h to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio sto diko toy tomea. Ayto ginetai kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Ta qemata ayta, asfalws, exoyn syzhthqei kai exoyn lhfqei apofaseis. H prosfath apofash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs orizei ena poly pio safes plaisio kai pantws afora tis dhmosionomikes prooptikes gia to 2002, to 2003 kai to 2004. To aposafhnizw ayto, giati para polloi qewroyn oti, enw eimaste sthn ektelesh enos Proypologismoy, epixeireitai mia allagh. O Proypologismos toy 2001 isxyei, opws exei chfistei.

Ola ayta ta opoia syzhtoyme kai apofasisame aforoyn to 2002 kai meta.

BITALHS: Leei, omws, kai kati allo, to opoio endexomenws genna enan problhmatismo. Leei oti o idios, akoma kai sth synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgo, den eixe enhmerwqei gi` ayth thn allagh anakatanomhs kondyliwn. Htan kati to opoio plhroforhqhke apo ton Typo.

REPPAS: Apanthsa gia ola ayta ta qemata. Gnwrizete poly kala, oti den einai dynato na lambanontai apofaseis se ena organo, xwris ta melh toy na exoyn prohgoymenws thn eparkh enhmerwsh gia na laboyn ypeyqyna thn apofash toys.

KARGOYDH: Na epistrecw sto qema toy dieqnoys aerodromioy. Qelw na sas pw oti yparxoyn kai sxetika dhmosieymata, alla kai martyries filwn kai gnwstwn poy epixeirhsan na tajideysoyn to Sabbatokyriako, symfwna me tis opoies ta problhmata ofeilontai kyriws sthn O.A., sthn opoia malista katalogizetai, toylaxiston, aproqymia synergasias, oson afora thn eyryqmh leitoyrgia toy neoy aerodromioy. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Aytes einai apoceis kai symperasmata twn gnwstwn sas poy exoyn th dikh toys empeiria. Ayto to opoio mporw na pw egw einai, oti oso katallhlh proetoimasia kai an kanei enas foreas, einai diaforetiko na leitoyrgei se ena neo epixeirhsiako periballon. Giati, bebaiws, h proetoimasia ginetai se synqhkes "ergasthrioy" -as moy epitrapei ayth h ekfrash- alla sto pragmatiko epixeirhsiako periballon poy dhmioyrgeitai, gia prwth fora entassetai kai h O.A., h opoia, opws gnwrizete, exei mia idiaiterh sxesh, se sygkrish me oles tis alles aeroporikes etairies poy leitoyrgoyn sto neo aerodromio. Pisteyw, loipon, oti einai qema ligoy xronoy ayta ta problhmata. Elpizw, me th symbolh olwn, grhgora na jeperastoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos me thn O.A. phge sth Qessalonikh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos, gia kapoies metakinhseis toy, xrhsimopoiei ena eidiko aeroskafos, pragma poy egine kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Den einai h prwth fora poy ginetai ayto.

KAPPOS: Meta th syllhch toy k. Milosebits, anarwtiemai an h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei na kanei kapoio sxolio, toylaxiston sto epipedo ekeino to opoio exei na kanei me tis dieqneis pieseis pros to Beligradi gia ekdosh toy Milosebits sto Dieqnes Poiniko Dikasthrio ths Xaghs.

REPPAS: Apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos se sxetikh erwthsh, to Sabbato, sth Qessalonikh. Paramenw sth genikh qesh oti to qema ayto to xeirizetai ypeyqyna h gioygkoslabikh kybernhsh.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, to Sabbatokyriako eixame mia parempodish toy leitoyrghmatos orismenwn dhmosiografwn. To ena synebh sthn Patra, opoy limenikoi parempodisan kai synelaban to synadelfo Eyaggelioy toy STAR kai enan idiokthth radiofwnikoy staqmoy, giati ejakoloyqoyse na ekpempei, enw toy eixe apagoreyqei na ekpempei. Ti apantate se ayta ws armodios Ypoyrgos Typoy;

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti mono sto plaisio ths nomimothtas, to opoio prepei oloi na sebomaste kai na throyme, oi dhmosiografoi kai oloi oi alloi leitoyrgoi prepei na kanoyn th doyleia toys me ton tropo poy ekeinoi epilegoyn kai nomizoyn oti einai o swstos. Apo ekei kai pera, exw zhthsei plhrofories gia to peristatiko ayto kai asfalws, efoson den syntrexoyn alloi logoi, kakws parempodizetai enas dhmosiografos kata thn askhsh twn kaqhkontwn toy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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