Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-03-30

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 30 Martioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos metabainei, ayrio, sth Qessalonikh, prokeimenoy na labei meros stis ekdhlwseis gia thn entajh ths Ellados, prin apo peripoy 20 xronia, sthn tote Eyrwpaikh Oikonomikh Koinothta (EOK) kai shmera Eyrwpaikh Enwsh (E.E.). Qa parameinei sth Qessalonikh ews thn Trith (3/4). Peran ths omilias poy qa kanei ayrio sthn ekdhlwsh ayth kai ths koinhs synenteyjhs poy qa paraxwrhsei me ton k. Pronti, qa exei th dynatothta, mazi me ton k. Pronti, na synanthqei, ayrio to meshmeri, me neoys ths Qessalonikhs kai na syzhthsei qemata poy aforoyn to mellon ths Eyrwphs. O Prwqypoyrgos th Deytera qa episkefqei to Polydynamo Kentro Neothtas toy Dhmoy Neapolhs. To idio brady qa ekfwnhsei omilia sto Synedrio toy Syndesmoy Biomhxaniwn Boreioy Ellados kai thn epomenh qa synanthsei ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Boylgarias k. Kostof, o opoios qa brisketai sth Qessalonikh me thn eykairia toy Synedrioy.

Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw sxetika me to eidiko qema poy afora to diko mas tomea. Shmera aporrifqhke apo to Monomeles Prwtodikeio Aqhnwn h aithsh poy eixan kataqesei radiofwnikoi staqmoi kata ths DEH gia thn ek neoy hlektrodothsh twn egkatastasewn toys.

Epishs, diapistwnw oti radiofwnikoi staqmoi ekpempoyn to programma toys, filojenwntas sth syxnothta toys programmata radiofwnikwn staqmwn poy den exoyn symperilhfqei ston katalogo poy apofasise to ESR. To ESR qa krinei an ayto einai nomimo h oxi, se synarthsh bebaia me to se poion anhkoyn oi xrhsimopoioymenes egkatastaseis.

Shmeiwnw to gegonos oti exoyme oysiastikws mia sygxrhsh syxnothtas apo diaforetikoys staqmoys. Otan emeis milhsame -to problepei allwste kai o nomos- gia sygxrhsh syxnothtas, opws gnwrizete, eixame dextei tote kritikh kai malista me tropo apreph apo polloys kai malista apo ekeinoys poy shmera kanoyn xrhsh aytoy akribws poy emeis tote eixame ypodeijei ws ena endexomeno.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei nomos poy apagoreyei th sygxrhsh;

REPPAS: To eixa ypodeijei epeidh to problepei o basikos nomos 2328/95. Einai nomika orqo, einai epitrepto, arkei na to apofasisoyn oi amesa endiaferomenoi kai na egkriqei armodiws. Prepei, omws, na pw oti ayto mporei na ginei efoson oi staqmoi poy filojenoyntai se mia syxnothta leitoyrgoyn nomimws, xrhsimopoiwntas o kaqenas nomimes egkatastaseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den mporei enas staqmos na allajei to programma toy;

REPPAS: Asfalws kai mporei. Alla na einai dikhs toy eyqynhs to programma. Kai ayto poy exei epishs shmasia einai na xrhsimopoioyntai nomimws oi egkatastaseis poy leitoyrgoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Diko toy programma. Aytos to bgazei, afoy ekleise o allos staqmos, pairnei mia ekpomph@

REPPAS: Den milame gi ayto. Gia mia, dhladh, aplh paragwgh programmatos. Milame gia ola ta diakritika enos staqmoy kai gia tis egkatastaseis enos staqmoy, o opoios den perilambanetai sth lista twn staqmwn poy epeleje to ESR. An kapoioi qewroyn oti mporoyn na exoyn ayth th synergasia, einai dikaiwma toys. Mporoyn na exoyn ayth th synergasia, alla milame gia ena forea, o opoios nomimws synexizei na leitoyrgei kai diaqetei syxnothta sthn opoia mporei na filojenei opoion qelei. Milame gia enan epixeirhmatiko forea kai gia ena radiofwniko staqmo h gia perissoteroys radiofwnikoys staqmoys, efoson synexizoyn na leitoyrgoyn nomimws. Giati, se mia syxnothta mporei na filojenoyntai perissoteroi apo enan radiofwniko staqmo. Milame gia ariqmo diaqesimwn syxnothtwn, oxi gia ariqmo radiofwnikwn staqmwn. O texnikos periorismos prokyptei gia tis syxnothtes. Se mia syxnothta mporoyn na filojenoyntai perissoteroi radiofwnikoi staqmoi arkei na leitoyrgoyn nomimws.

ARGYROS: Ayth thn praktikh qa thn krinei to ESR;

REPPAS: An krinei oti prepei na asxolhqei me to qema.

SOYGLERHS: Sth diarkeia poy syskeptetai to ESR, eseis ws Ypoyrgos Typoy eidate mia synallagh, metajy twn melwn toy D.S., twn dyo kommatwn, poy kataggellei o k. Alephs;

REPPAS: Otan synedriase to ESR, briskomoyn sth Soyhdia gia th Synodo Koryfhs ths E.E.. Plhroforhqhka tis apofaseis toy apo dhmosieymata toy Typoy kai en synexeia, th Deytera to prwi, enhmerwqhka apo ton Proedro toy ESR, o opoios moy efere thn apofash toy Symboylioy, thn opoia o idios ypografei.

SOYGLERHS: Eixate kamia anameijh se ayto;

REPPAS: Kamia anameijh, giati den mporoysa na eixa anameijh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti aytoi oi opoioi anameignyontai einai aytoi poy exoyn ameso endiaferon. Kai aytoi poy antidroyn einai aytoi poy exoyn ameso proswpiko endiaferon gia sygkekrimeno radiofwniko staqmo. Den antidra kapoios poy den exei proswpiko endiaferon. Tonizw de, oti ola ta politika kommata -sas parapempw stis anakoinwseis toys- den qetoyn qema allaghs toy pinaka twn 28 staqmwn poy synexizoyn na leitoyrgoyn. Apla, zhtoyn na dieyrynqei o ariqmos twn syxnothtwn poy diatiqentai. Ayto, epanalambanw, den einai proion politikhs apofashs, einai texniko zhthma. Gi ayto, akribws, paramenoyme ston ariqmo twn 28 diaqesimwn syxnothtwn, opws akribws exoyn katalhjei oi armodies yphresies, poy einai epifortismenes me to kaqhkon na diasfalizoyn thn omalh leitoyrgia se ayto to krisimo pedio, opws einai h YPA, h asfaleia twn pthsewn.

SOYGLERHS: Yparxei protash poy meleta h kybernhsh gia 35 syxnothtes;

REPPAS: Den exei katateqei se mas tetoia protash. Allwste, den qa mporoyse na katateqei, giati to Ypoyrgeio Typoy & MME den einai armodio. Opoiadhpote tetoia meleth qa prepei na tyxei epejergasias apo dieqneis organismoys. Giati, kaqenas mporei na ekponhsei mia meleth. To qema einai na ginei ayth apodekth apo dieqneis organismoys. Prepei na ginetai dieqnhs syntonismos, na lambanontai ypoch orismenoi periorismoi, prokeimenoy na ginei apodekth ayth h meleth. Ayto symbainei sthn periptwsh ths meleths, h opoia odhghse se sygkekrimeno xarth syxnothtwn, ton opoio exei ekdwsei h armodia texnikh yphresia toy Ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn.

MPOTWNHS: To reportaz anaferei, shmera, oti sth xqesinh Kybernhtikh Epitroph mono omofwnia den yphrje, mono maxairia den bghkan kai malista o Prwqypoyrgos se ayth thn kontra-antiparaqesh Papantwnioy-Tsoxatzopoyloy parenebh pyrosbestika. Synebhsan ola ayta;

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti den exoyn sxesh me thn alhqeia ayta ta opoia skiagrafhsate ws periexomeno h skhniko ayths ths synedriashs. H apofash ayth bebaiws einai mia apofash poy qa krinete kai eseis kai o ellhnikos laos. Einai orqh h apofash, giati antapokrinetai sto symferon ths xwras, diasfalizei kai anabaqmizei thn koinwnikh synoxh poy einai stoixeio isxyos mias koinwnias, mias xwras. Epishs, enisxyei thn antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, thn peraiterw anaptyjh ths xwras mas kai dhmioyrgei tis proypoqeseis gia thn acogh diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. Kai ola ayta, enw gnwrizete poly kala oti mesw twn poly shmantikwn ektetamenwn ejoplistikwn programmatwn twn prohgoymenwn xronwn, exoyme dhmioyrghsei mia isxyrh apotreptikh dynamh. Oi Enoples Dynameis ths xwras mas, me ta mesa poy diaqetoyn, einai paragontas staqerothtas, asfaleias kai eirhnhs sthn perioxh. Den teqhke kai den tiqetai dilhmma, to an oi dapanes qa diateqoyn sth mia h thn allh kateyqynsh. Pantote yparxei h isorroph proseggish, wste na epitygxanoyme toys basikoys stoxoys. Giati, bebaiws, qeloyme isxyres Enoples Dynameis, logw ths qeshs poy brisketai h xwra mas. H enisxysh twn Enoplwn Dynamewn ths xwras mas exei kai poly megalh politikh shmasia, enocei twn dieqnwn prwtoboyliwn ths xwras mas. Apo thn allh, bebaiws, epiqymoyme, sto megisto baqmo, na epityxoyme thn perifereiakh kai koinwnikh synoxh sto eswteriko ths xwras mas. Kai ayto, symfwna kai me tis desmeyseis poy analabame stis teleytaies ekloges enwpion toy ellhnikoy laoy, einai qema poy mas apasxolhse kat` epanalhch. To antimetwpisame kai xqes ypo mia sygkekrimenh optikh, ypo thn optikh twn dhmosionomikwn prooptikwn toy 2002, 2003 kai 2004. Etsi, deixnoyme poso synepeis eimaste se ayta ta opoia exoyme ejaggeilei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos apo tis Bryjelles, exei kanei kapoies dhlwseis kai leei oti apotyxate se ola.

REPPAS: Mporeite na moy diabasete aytes tis dhlwseis toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy poy epikaleiste;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Zhta th sygklish toy KYSEA kai toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy gia to qema ayto.

REPPAS: Mporeite na moy diabasete poy perilambanetai ayto poy kai eseis anaferete ws dhlwseis toy;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipe oti h syzhthsh prepei na metaferqei se epipedo KYSEA kai Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, dioti den einai aplo to qema ths ypoqeshs twn dapanwn kai ths amynas. Epishs, xqes sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, eipe ston k. Papantwnioy, oti apotyxate se ola, to opoio eseis diaceydete kai epomeno einai. Qa to epibebaiwnate;

REPPAS: To pio fysiko kai apolytws epomeno, kata th dikh sas paradoxh, qa htan na isxyristeite oti bebaiws yparxei ayth h antiparaqesh kai ayth h kritikh peri apotyxias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oles oi efhmerides poy to grafoyn kai oi sympliteyomenes, dhladh oi dikes sas, grafoyn cemata;

REPPAS: Eseis, pantws, den eiste se mia apo tis "dikes mas" kai epeidh eiste se mia apo tis "antipales" efhmerides, logiko einai na exete ayth thn antipoliteytikh stash kai kata th diatypwsh twn erwthsewn sas. Ayto omologeite twra. Parontes, xqes, htan ta melh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai kapoioi akomh ypoyrgoi kai mono aytoi gnwrizoyn pws ejelixqhke h syzhthsh. Sas parakalw, loipon, na mhn eiste toso apolytos sth qesh gia to ti eipwqhke apo toys symmetexontes sth synedriash. Giati, antilambaneste pws mporei na ekteqeite.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati na pistecw egw esas kai na mhn pistecw ton allo ypoyrgo poy htan mesa;

REPPAS: Ayto einai apolyto dikaiwma sas. Alla kai egw, giati na dexqw oti ayto poy isxyrizeste einai to orqo h einai kati to opoio exei allos diamhnysei se sas h einai kati to opoio eseis syllambanete kata fantasia. Ola einai endexomena kai sth Dhmokratia ola einai epitrepta, mexris enos orismenoy orioy. H Kybernhtikh Epitroph einai to Organo sto opoio lambanontai oi politikes apofaseis. To KYSEA, bebaiws exei tis dikes toy armodiothtes kai sto plaisio twn politikwn apofasewn poy exei parei h kybernhsh qa kanei tis epiloges toy gia ta qemata ths armodiothtas toy. O Proypologismos, h dhmosionomikh politikh, oi dapanes poy programmatizontai gia diaforoys tomeis, apoteloyn antikeimeno poy apasxolei thn kybernhsh, to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai idiaiterws thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, oxi to KYSEA. Sto plaisio twn apofasewn ths K.E., to KYSEA kaleitai na ejeidikeysei, gia qemata ths armodiothtas toy, to pws qa diateqoyn, fer` eipein ta xrhmata poy exoyn apofasistei apo ena allo kybernhtiko organo, gia to xwro ths eqnikhs amynas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Efoson o k. Papantwnioy elege oti o Proypologismos einai pleonasmatikos kai exoyme lefta, giati kobete apo tis amyntikes dapanes;

REPPAS: O Proypologismos toy 2001 ekteleitai kanonikws kai qa paroysiasei pleonasma, opws exoyme pei. Ta qemata ta opoia syzhthsoyme den aforoyn ton Proypologismo toy 2001 kai den einai apeikonish twn pleonasmatwn poy anamenoyme na prokycoyn apo thn ektelesh aytoy toy Proypologismoy. Exoyme pei oti to pleonasma ayto prokyptei, logw ths synexoys meiwshs toy dhmosioy xreoys, ara kai ths ptwshs se xamhloterh epipedo twn epitokiwn gia thn ejoflhsh toy, pragma to opoio odhgei sthn ejoikonomhsh enos shmantikoy posoy, se ethsia bash, poy fqanei ta 200 ews 300 dis. draxmes, poy qa diateqoyn, opws exoyme pei, gia koinwnikoys skopoys. Den exei kamia sxesh ayto, to opoio bebaiws symbainei, isxyei apolytws me tis dhmosionomikes prooptikes. Ayto einai allh pleyra toy qematos. Kai sto plaisio aytwn twn programmatismwn poy kanoyme, exoyme problecei, metajy twn allwn, kai ayto to pleonasma poy prokyptei, logw ths meiwshs toy dhmosioy xreoys. To ena einai se apolyth armonia me to allo.

ARGYROS: Mas eipate prohgoymenws oti h K.E. pairnei tis apofaseis kai to KYSEA ejeidikeyei gia dikes toy armodiothtes. Giati o Prwqypoyrgos den eniwse thn anagkh na parei mia tetoia shmantikh apofash gia anakatanomh kondyliwn sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio;

REPPAS: H kybernhtikh Epitroph exei ayth thn armodiothta. To Ypoyrgiko Symboylio syzhta thn politikh ths kybernhshs, enocei ths analhchs mias nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias h th xarajh, to sxediasmo ths politikhs, sto geniko plaisio mias politikhs ypo thn eyryterh ennoia. Ta qemata ayta se taktikh, sxedon ebdomadiaia bash, stis ejeidikeyseis toys, syzhtoyntai kai apofasizontai sthn K.E.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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