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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 29 Martioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. O Prwqypoyrgos exei probei se dhlwseis. Peran twn oswn dhlwse o Prwqypoyrgos, staxyologwntas ton pyrhna ths qeshs ths kybernhshs gia ta qemata poy syzhthqhkan shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, qa hqela na kanw ena sxolio:

H kybernhsh me bash tis ejaggelies ths, efarmozontas to programma ths, sxediazei to mellon ths xwras. Exei katartisei ena Sxedio Anaptyjhs gia ta epomena xronia me tekmhriwmeno kai peistiko tropo, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsei synqhkes kalyterhs zwhs gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Na enisxysei akomh perissotero th dieqnh qesh ths xwras. Oi proteraiothtes ths kybernhshs mas einai safeis.

Akomh megalyterh enisxysh ths koinwnikhs synoxhs, giati h koinwnikh synoxh se mia xwra einai stoixeio ths dynamhs ths. Prepei loipon -kai ayto einai h megalh proteraiothta mas- na enisxysoyme akomh perissotero to dixty koinwnikhs allhleggyhs poy afora tis asqenesteres koinwnikes omades, toys sympolites mas poy exoyn anagkh th bohqeia ths Politeias. Ayto apotelei taytoxrona proklhsh kai stoixhma poy prepei na kerdisoyme se ayth thn tetraetia.

H diasfalish ths staqerothtas kai taytoxrona h enisxysh ths antagwnistikothtas ths xwras, me th diathrhsh twn ychlwn ryqmwn anaptyjhs, toys opoioys gnwrizei h xwra ta teleytaia xronia.

H acogh diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004. To kostos ths diorganwshs ayths einai para poly shmantiko, eggizei ta dyo trisekatommyria draxmes. H kybernhsh, se epomenh fash, me th symbolh olwn twn ypoyrgeiwn qa ejeidikeysei kai qa diarqrwsei to programma ayto, sto geniko plaisio ths apofashs poy elabe shmera h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, stis epimeroys ptyxes toy, prokeimenoy na epityxoyme toys stoxoys mas, gia th dhmosionomikh staqerothta, thn antagwnistikothta ths xwras, thn anaptyjh, thn enisxysh ths koinwnikhs politikhs.

Epishs, o Prwqypoyrgos epishmane thn apofash anabolhs gia meta to 2004 ths opoias agoras enos maxhtikoy aeroskafoys tetarths genias. Den mataiwnetai h agora, metatiqetai xronika. Epanalambanw oti ola ayta ta qemata qa ejeidikeytoyn se epomenes synedriaseis twn kybernhtikwn organwn. Kaqe ypoyrgeio, kaqe ypoyrgos apo thn pleyra toy qa symballei, wste na epityxoyme aytoys toys stoxoys.

O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy ekane mia poly syntomh enhmerwsh gia thn katastash poy epikratei sthn perioxh kai idiaiterws gia thn krish sto geitoniko kratos ths FYROM.

Epishs, apo thn pleyra moy enhmerwsa gia ta qemata ths politikhs ston tomea toy Ypoyrgeioy Typoy & MME, ypo to fws twn teleytaiwn ejelijewn.

Ayto htan to periexomeno ths synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Poioi einai oi ektaktoi paragontes poy odhghsan ena xrono meta tis ekloges sthn allagh ths dhmosionomikhs politikhs;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kamia allagh sth dhmosionomikh politikh. Den exoyn prokycei ektaktoi paragontes. Aplws, o sxediasmos ths kybernhshs prepei na einai sxediasmos se baqos xronoy. Milame gia tis dhmosionomikes prooptikes ths xwras mexri to 2004. Exoyme pei oti sto ejhs ola ta ypoyrgeia qa prepei na katartizoyn proypologismoys se trieth bash kai h kybernhsh qa prepei na elegxei tis oikonomikes ejelijeis se ena tetoio baqos xronoy, gia na mh breqoyme apenanti se aproopta, gia na elegxoyme to mellon, na kyriarxoyme stis ejelijeis kai na eimaste etoimoi na antimetwpisoyme tis megales proklhseis. Giati h Ellada prepei na prosarmostei stis nees synqhkes ths neas oikonomias, sthn koinwnia ths plhroforias. Prepei na kanoyme poiotika almata se polloys tomeis. Prepei na dapanhsoyme ekei poy ajizei, ependyontas gia to mellon ayths ths xwras kai twn politwn ths. Taytoxrona, bebaiws, opws pantote mexri twra, na diathrhsoyme th "xrysh isorropia" anamesa stis dapanes gia thn asfaleia kai thn eirhnh sthn perioxh poy einai kyriws dapanes gia thn amyna kai tis dapanes gia thn anabaqmish ths koinwnikhs synoxhs, h opoia -epanalambanw- einai systatiko stoixeio eqnikhs isxyos.

ANTYPAS: Den eixe ginei ayto meta tis ekloges;

REPPAS: Asfalws eixe ginei. Kai se prohgoymenh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs syzhthsame ta qemata ths oikonomikhs politikhs, ypo ena allo prisma, ayto twn pleonasmatwn poy prokyptoyn kai toy tropoy me ton opoion dianemetai ayto to pleonasma. Shmera, syzhthsame kati poly sygkekrimeno: Tis prooptikes, apo dhmosionomikh apoch, ths xwras gia ta eth 2002, 2003 kai 2004. Kai ayto ginetai prwth fora.

ANTYPAS: Mporeite na mas dwsete kapoia stoixeia apo thn topoqethsh toy Ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas k. Tsoxatzopoyloy, dedomenoy oti efyge espeysmena xwris na kanei dhlwseis;

REPPAS: O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas eixe programmatisei tajidi sto ejwteriko. Den to gnwrizete ayto; Epeidh eipate oti "efyge espeysmena" dinete thn entypwsh oti apoxwrhse apo th synedriash, enw ayto den einai alhqeia.

ANTYPAS: Mporeite na mas peite kapoia stoixeia apo thn topoqethsh toy;

REPPAS: Ayto poy metaferw kai einai ayto poy exei ajia gia sas einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Meta th syzhthsh poy egine, sth diarkeia ths opoias elaban to logo ola ta melh ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai kaqenas milhse me ton tropo toy, alla me bash thn epidiwjh na proseggisoyme ayto to stoxo, katalhjame se ayth th qesh. Kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos me to diko toy tropo ekane tis dikes toy parathrhseis kai katalhjame se ayth th qesh.

ANTYPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti qa ejoikonomhqoyn dapanes sth Dhmosia Dioikhsh kai thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh. Mporeite na ginete pio sygkekrimenos;

REPPAS: Ta epimeroys qemata, opws hdh sas exw pei, qa ta syzhthsoyme se epomenes synedriaseis me eishghsh poy qa kanoyn ta armodia ypoyrgeia.

KARAKWSTAS: Toso eseis, oso kai o Prwqypoyrgos milhsate gia thn anabolh ths agoras twn aeroskafwn tetarths geneas. Den mas eipate ton typo. Ennoeite ta Eurofighter;

REPPAS: Ayto mporeite na to ennohsete eseis. Einai, omws, kati poy den mporoyme na to poyme twra, giati opws antilambaneste, qa prepei na ginoyn syzhthseis kai diapragmateyseis. Ayth einai mia poly shmantikh prospaqeia.

KARAKWSTAS: Ayto poy eipate gia perikopes dapanwn se alla Ypoyrgeia afora kai ta ypoyrgeia Eswterikwn, Ygeias, Gewrgias k.lp.;

REPPAS: Den miloyme gia perikopes dapanwn. Miloyme gia enan sxediasmo ths dhmosionomikhs kai mono ths dhmosionomikhs politikhs, o opoios afora ta epomena xronia, mexri kai to 2004. Pws prepei na ajiopoihsoyme ta xrhmata poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas me ton kalytero tropo. Gia ta epimeroys qemata ths politikhs kaqe ypoyrgeioy qa epanelqoyn oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qelw na sas rwthsw an o Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke se sygkekrimeno kondyli poy prepei na ejoikonomhqei. Milhse gia ena, dyo, tria trisekatommyria gia ta prosexh tria xronia;

REPPAS: Den einai toy parontos kai qa apofygw na anaferqw se logistika stoixeia. To kanw ayto epeidh o armodios ypoyrgos ypebale diafores protaseis, mesw enallaktikwn senariwn. Proteine sxedia, ta opoia prosferoyn se emas th dynatothta na kanoyme mia h kapoia allh epilogh. Ara, loipon, epanalambanw, ola ayta qa oristikopoihqoyn thn epomenh periodo kai tote qa eimaste pio sygkekrimenoi.

SOYRMELIDHS: H anakatanomh poy ginetai me thn perikoph dapanwn afora kai to 2001 kai an o Proypologismos toy 2001 qa einai pleonasmatikos;

REPPAS: O Proypologismos toy 2001 mexri twra, me bash ta stoixeia poy yparxoyn, ekteleitai apolytws ikanopoihtika kai pisteyw oti qa einai kai aytos enas ajiopistos, oson afora thn efarmogh toy, Proypologismos.

SOYRMELIDHS: Yparxei ependytikos xarakthras se ola ayta h milame mono th ftwxeia, ton apokleismo k.lp., dhladh, thn ejoikonomhsh...

REPPAS: Ayth einai h mia pleyra. Milhsame gia thn prwth proteraiothta. Alla, yparxei epishs shmantikh proteraiothta poy afora thn antagwnistikothta ths xwras kai thn peraiterw anaptyjh ths, poy prokyptei mesa apo ependyseis. Kai ayto einai to Programma Dhmosiwn Ependysewn, to opoio enisxyetai qeamatika. Gnwrizete oti exoyme to Sxedio Oikonomikhs Anaptyjhs, logw kai twn porwn ths E.E., poy einai para poly shmantikoi. Kai bebaiws, afora kai tis idiwtikes ependyseis, mesw twn kinhtrwn, poy parexontai se idiwtes epixeirhmaties.

MIXAHL: Me osa apofasisate shmera mporei kaneis na ejagei to symperasma oti h kybernhsh kanei strofh pros th legomenh ``koinwnikh politikh'';

REPPAS: Prepei na bgalei abiasta, malista, to symperasma oti h kybernhsh einai synephs stis ejaggelies ths. Gnwrizete oti stis teleytaies ekloges apeyqynqhkame ston ellhniko lao, zhthsame kai labame thn chfo kai thn empistosynh toy, ejaggellontas ena programma, poy metajy twn allwn, ton tomea ths koinwnikhs politikhs ton eixe ierarxhmeno para poly ychla. Antapokrinomenoi, loipon, se ayth thn entolh efarmozoyme to programma mas.

MPOTWNHS: Afoy eginan ola ayta, tote giati apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas gia to ejoplistiko programma eginan toso polla kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos ebgaine, dhlwne oti agorazoyme, kanoyme, ranoyme...

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti oloi oi Ypoyrgoi kai o k. Tsoxatzopoylos einai safeis, se oles tis dhlwseis toys. Oloi endiaferomaste gia thn koinwnikh synoxh, oloi endiaferomaste gia tis dapanes poy prepei na doqoyn, prokeimenoy na enisxyqei h koinwnikh politikh, giati ayto apotelei, bebaiws, thn ycisth proteraiothta gia oloys toys politikoys poy anhkoyn se ena sosialistiko komma kai leitoyrgoyn ws melh mias proodeytikhs kybernhshs. Den yparxei antilogos se ayto. Den yparxei dilhmma. Den yparxei dipolo, metajy ekeinwn poy protassoyn mia proteraiothta, enanti allwn poy protassoyn ena allo qema, ws qema proteraiothtas. Oloi symfwnoyme se ayto. Kai oloi qa symballoyme, kaqenas apo th dikh toy pleyra, prokeimenoy na petyxoyme ton koino skopo.

KARGOYDH: Apo ayth thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph h kybernhsh, opws epishmanate nwritera, epanerxetai sto basiko ths stoxo ths enisxyshs ths koinwnikhs synoxhs ws prwth proteraiothta ths politikhs ths. Entypwsh moy kanei oti ayto to monadiko symperasma, oson afora thn oikonomikh bash poy katalhjate, afora thn eqnikh amyna. Qelw na pw oti ej antikeimenoy prokyptei dilhmma, to opoio symperilabate sthn Kybernhtikh sas Epitroph. Giati, kata ta loipa, lete oti ola ta ypoloipa ypoyrgeia qa ejeidikeysoyn se mia epomenh fash thn politikh toys se synarthsh me thn prwth proteraiothta.

REPPAS: Dieykrinizw, eyqys amesws: Oi dapanes gia tis opoies egine h syzhthsh, enocei twn dhmosionomikwn prooptikwn mexri kai to 2004, exoyn problefqei enanti desmeysewn poy exoyn analhfqei. Den aforoyn to maxhtiko aeroskafos tetarths genias. Dhladh, to synolo twn oikonomikwn megeqwn poy shmera mas apasxolhsan, den exei kamia sxesh me tis opoies dapanes mporei na ginoyn gia to maxhtiko aeroskafos tetarths genias. Den einai, dhladh, mesa se aytes poy syzhthsame, oi dapanes poy eixan proypologistei gia ena maxhtiko aeroskafos, estw aytoy toy typoy.

SOYRMELIDHS: Prokataboles, omws, doqhkan.

REPPAS: Den exoyn katablhqei prokataboles. Oson afora twra to genikotero qema, asfalws oi dapanes toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, opws oi dapanes olwn twn ypoyrgeiwn, teqhkan epi taphtos. Alla, prepei na sas pw eidikws pws otidhpote exei sxesh me maxhtiko aeroskafos, oyte eixe, oyte exei symperilhfqei ston programmatismo twn dapanwn gia tis opoies syzhthsame shmera.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Tote, giati proxwrhsate;

REPPAS: Gia na mhn proxwrhsoyme twra sthn katabolh shmantikwn oikonomikwn poswn, prokeimenoy na antapokriqoyme stis doseis poy einai aparaithtes, wste na ginei h sygkekrimenh agora. Gi` ayto to logo.

KARGOYDH: Enqymoymai kalws, k. Ypoyrge, oti ontws mexri to 2003 den eixate proypologisei ekroes xrhmatwn, oson afora to aeroskafos tetarths genias. Kai tiqetai to erwthma, pros ti olh ayth h syzhthsh toso kairo poy afora Eurofighter h endexomenws gia agora amerikanikoy aeroskafoys k.t.l. Pros ti olh ayth h syzhthsh h opoia htan kai prwtoselidh;

REPPAS: Mallon esas prepei na rwthsw, twra. Pros ti ayth h syzhthsh; H syzhthsh egine apo ta MME h alloys paragontes. Pantws, den egine apo thn kybernhsh.

KARGOYDH: H apofash sas gia th metaqesh xronika ths agoras aytoy toy aeroskafoys, syndeetai eyqews me ton kentriko ajona ths enisxyshs ths dieqnoys qeshs ths xwras;

REPPAS: Ayto einai aytonohto. Asfalws, h symmetoxh ths xwras se megaloys dieqneis organismoys, oi politikes kai diplwmatikes prwtoboylies poy analambanei, enisxyoyn to dieqnes kyros kai th qesh ths, poly perissotero otan gnwrizete pws h Ellada einai mia xwra poy prwtagwnistei stis ejelijeis gia thn eirhnh, th staqerothta kai thn asfaleia sthn perioxh. Ola ayta einai stoixeia ta opoia synektimwntai, ajiologoyntai, prokeimenoy na pareis thn telikh apofash gia ena ejoplistiko programma. To ena symplhrwnei to allo. Ola einai epimeroys stoixeia h diaforetikes pleyres ths idias politikhs.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Apo to reportaz prokyptei oti yphrje enas aifnidiasmos, idiws sta megala ypoyrgeia, gia olh ayth th strofh. Kai to lew ayto, giati polloi htan oi ypoyrgoi h toylaxiston orismenoi mesa sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph poy eipan oti, efoson yphrxan aytes oi anagkes, giati den bghkan pio nwris pros ta ejw.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, qa moy epitrecete na mhn epibebaiwsw to reportaz, giati oi ypoyrgoi poy elaban th sxetikh apofash einai aytoi poy eseis isxyrizeste oti aifnidiasthkan. Den einai dynaton enas ypoyrgos na pairnei mia ypeyqynh qesh, na apofasizei gia toso shmantika qemata, xwris na einai etoimos. Htan apolytws etoimoi oi ypoyrgoi. H apofash poy elhfqh -to tonise kai o Prwqypoyrgos- antapokrinetai sta symferonta ths xwras kai twn politwn.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Den ennow ton k. Papantwnioy, ennow oloys toys ypoloipoys, poy kaloyntai dyo mhnes meta thn chfish toy proypologismoy na kanoyn perikopes.

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Den prokeitai peri aytoy. Gia prwth fora, epanalambanw, syzhtoyme dhmosionomikes prooptikes se baqos xronoy, me orizonta trietias.

ANTYPAS: Qa proxwrhsete se paragwgh Eurofighter , giati se ayth thn aiqoysa eixame pei oti h paragwgh anoigei neoys orizontes sthn amyna ths xwras. Qa proxwrhsei ayto;

REPPAS: Eipame gia meta to 2004. Hmoyn poly safhs, otan apanthsa prin se synadelfo sas. Eipa oti ayto mporeite na to ennohsete, na to antilambaneste etsi. Epanalambanw ayta poy eipe sth dhlwsh toy o Prwqypoyrgos.

MPOTWNHS: Eipate oti enhmerwsate ki eseis gia qemata toy ypoyrgeioy. Fantazomai oti htan gia qemata ths adeiodothshs. Yparxei kati neotero h yparxei kapoia antiqeth apoch;

REPPAS: Tipota neotero. Isa-isa, symfwnhsan oloi oti prepei na parameinoyme se ayth thn politikh.

MIXAHL: Ayth h politikh poy exete mexri twra efarmosei einai anelastikh;

REPPAS: Einai swsth.

MIXAHL: Se oles tis dhmosies topoqethseis sas kai stoys synadelfoys sas kai dhmosiws, eipate oti "28 adeies leitoyrgias, moy leei to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn oti prepei na zhthsw kai oti 28 adeies zhthsa na doqoyn apo to ESR". Yparxei periptwsh na allajei o ariqmos, ean oi armodies yphresies toy ypoyrgeioy Metaforwn sas dwsoyn parapanw syxnothtes to epomeno diasthma;

REPPAS: Eimai ypoxrewmenos apo to nomo na prokhryjw adeies gia oses syxnothtes einai diaqesimes. Gnwrizw, omws -kai o armodios ypoyrgos einai kathgorhmatikos se ayto- oti oi diaqesimes syxnothtes einai kat` anwtato ariqmo 28.

MIXAHL: Yparxei periptwsh, efoson eidame xqes kai th diaforopoihsh toy Proedroy toy ESR k. Lampridh, oson afora thn apoch oti den qa eprepe sto metabatiko stadio na leitoyrghsei kanenas staqmos, mono oi 20 poy phran tis adeies eyqys ejarxhs, yparxei, loipon, periptwsh twra, kai efoson eseis nomotypws qesate to erwthma, na qesete jana erwthma, afoy sas dinei to dikaiwma o nomos, gia na kopasei h taraxh -na to pw etsi- na peite oti kai aytoi oi oktw qa prepei na stamathsoyn na leitoyrgoyn kai na meinoyme mono me toys 20...

REPPAS: Fantazomai den to proteinete ayto, den mporw na dianohqw oti to proteinete. Giati, apo th mia den mporeite na mas kathgoreite oti qeloyme na fimwsoyme Mesa Enhmerwshs kai apo thn allh na proteinete na meiwsoyme ton ariqmo twn Meswn poy einai se leitoyrgia. Emeis qeloyme na leitoyrgoyn oso ginetai perissotera Mesa Enhmerwshs, sto plaisio omws twn texnikwn dynatothtwn poy parexontai. Oson afora ton Proedro toy ESR, o opoios th Deytera to prwi moy enexeirhse thn apofash toy ESR, qelw na pw oti einai bebaiws Proedros, epikefalhs enos syllogikoy organoy, gia th leitoyrgia toy opoioy ekeinos exei thn armodiothta, oxi egw h opoiosdhpote allos.

MIXAHL: Sas rwtw gia ton ejhs logo: To na qetete, basei toy nomoy, erwthma sto ESR, ean qa leitoyrgoyn metabatika kapoioi staqmoi, deixnei apo th meria sas mia politikh boylhsh na leitoyrghsoyn parapanw. Mhpws, loipon, twra exete thn politikh boylhsh -gia na yparxei, as to pw etsi, 100% kaqaro paixnidi, oxi apo dikh sas eyqynh, to epanalambanw- gia toys ypoloipoys, dhladh, oloi na kriqoyn apo thn arxh gia tis ypoloipes oktw adeies, afoy lete toses mas dinoyn;

REPPAS: Efoson einai texnikws efikto na leitoyrgoyn ayrio kiolas akomh oktw staqmoi sto Nomo Attikhs, prepei na ajiopoihsoyme ayth th dynatothta. Giati na mhn thn ajiopoihsoyme;

MIXAHL: Pote qa ypogracete tis adeies gia toys 20 staqmoys;

REPPAS: H yphresia exei apeyqynqei me epistolh ths stoys 20 foreis poy exoyn epi ths oysias labei th sxetikh adeia, prokeimenoy na apanthsoyn se orismena qemata kai etsi na oloklhrwqei kai typika ayth h diagwnistikh diadikasia.

Sas eyxaristw.

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