Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-03-20

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Martioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas epi twn qematwn ths epikairothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati o Prwqypoyrgos den dexetai mia kat` idian syzhthsh me ton Arxhgo ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs sthn thleorash h kapoy alloy; Giati apofeygei, giati krybetai;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti sto Koinoboylio, kat` epanalhch, exoyn ginei syzhthseis se epipedo arxhgwn. O Prwqypoyrgos gia ola ta qemata einai parwn, pairnei to logo, ekfrazei tis qeseis ths kybernhshs kai bebaiws exei thn eykairia se kaqe tetoia periptwsh, mesw dialogoy kai me ton arxhgo ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai toys alloys politikoys arxhgoys, na proballei ta epixeirhmata mas. Etsi, deixnei poso kalyterh einai h politikh poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh se sxesh me tis qeseis twn allwn kommatwn gia ta qemata poy apasxoloyn th xwra. Pisteyw, loipon, oti gia logoys entypwsiasmoy kaqenas mporei na diatypwnei kapoies apoceis. Ayto poy exei shmasia sthn politikh einai h oysia kai to apotelesma. Oi qesmoi leitoyrgoyn. To Koinoboylio einai o xwros opoy tetoioy eidoys syzhthseis lambanoyn xwra. Pisteyw oti ayto deixnei, otan to throyme me synepeia, pws timoyme th dhmokratia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate, omws! O Arxhgos ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs exei apeyqynei dyo fores prosklhsh ston Prwqypoyrgo. Giati, apofeygei o k. Shmiths na synanthqei h na paei se ena thleoptiko dialogo me ton k. Karamanlh;

REPPAS: O k. Karamanlhs antilambanetai, fainetai, th dikh toy qesh sto plaisio toy koinoboyleytikoy systhmatos, ws qesh poy perissotero entassetai sta thleoptika programmata, para sth leitoyrgia toy Koinoboylioy. Exoyme diafwnia ws pros ayto. Pisteyoyme oti to Koinoboylio einai o qesmos, h koryfaia ekfrash ths laikhs kyriarxias, opoy ekei oi politikoi arxhgoi antallassoyn apoceis kai epixeirhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas eixa janarwthsei, ean o Prwqypoyrgos pareyreqei sta egkainia ths "Attikhs Odoy" kai moy eixate apanthsei oti qa paei pantoy, alla den phge. Giati den phge;

REPPAS: Sas eixa pei oti qa paei sta egkainia toy Aerodromioy. Htan safes ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eixa rwthsei gia egkainia aerodromioy;

REPPAS: Kanete terastio laqos. H apanthsh moy htan safhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas eixa pei oti apo to Majimoy lene, pws yparxei prosklhsh kai diadidoyn oti o Prwqypoyrgos to skeftetai na paei sthn prosklhsh toy k. Laliwth.

REPPAS: Den yphrxe kamia tetoia prosklhsh kai den htan programmatismeno na parastei o Prwqypoyrgos se ayta ta egkainia. Asfalws, qa einai parwn sta egkainia toy Aerodromioy. Na eiste sigoyros gi ayto.

SOYRMELIDHS: Meta tis epishmanseis ths Komision gia to qema twn taytothtwn, sxetika me thn iqageneia, prokeitai na anaqewrhqei h politikh se sxesh me tis taytothtes;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, exoyme pei oti to stoixeio ths iqageneias den synista ena eyaisqhto proswpiko dedomeno, giati den afora mia pepoiqhsh, to fronhma toy polith. H paraleich toy sxetizetai me thn aytonohth anagnwrish, oson afora to stoixeio ths iqageneias gia ton feronta thn taytothta, afoy einai gnwsth h arxh poy exei ekdwsei thn taytothta. Ara, loipon, den tiqetai praktiko problhma. Aytos poy ferei thn taytothta, h opoia exei ekdoqei apo thn arxh enos orismenoy kratoys, einai gnwsto poias iqageneias einai. Kata ta alla, an pragmatika prepei na xrhsimopoihqei ws tajidiwtiko eggrafo kapoia stigmh h taytothta kai prokyptei kapoia dyskolia, oson afora thn anagnwrish aytoy toy stoixeioy apo tis yphresies allwn xwrwn, kalo einai na to antimetwpisoyme ayto to qema. Apasxolei tis armodies yphresies ths xwras mas ayto to zhthma, giati epanalambanw oti den afora eyaisqhto proswpiko dedomeno. Qewrhqhke oti praktikws den einai anagkaio na anagrafetai to stoixeio ayto, ws eykolws ennooymenh h iqageneia se ayth thn periptwsh, afoy epanalambanw einai gnwsth h arxh kai to kratos poy exei ekdwsei to eggrafo ayto, thn taytothta.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxei to endexomeno na episfragistei h ananewsh toy PASOK me thn eisodo newn proswpwn sto kybernhtiko sxhma h me alla logia, einai oratos enas anasxhmatismos ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Tetoio qema den teqhke kai den tiqetai. Prepei na pw, oti para tis diaceyseis, toso toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla kai emoy, oso kai apo thn idia thn pragmatikothta apenanti se tetoia senaria poy, kata kairoys, grafontai, para tayta, kapoioi epimenoyn na epanaferoyn ayto to qema. Opoioi epimenoyn kai synthroyn ayto to qema, ej antikeimenoy, parakwlyoyn -systhmatika qa elega, afoy epimona epanaferoyn ayto to qema- thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Den mporw na ejhghsw alliws ayth thn epimonh.

MPOTWNHS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos, xqes, eipe oti stis prosexeis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges, kalo qa htan na mhn doqoyn xrhmatika posa apo ta kommata kai oti mporoyn na mpoyn kapoia proswpa anadeiknyomena apo tis topikes koinwnies. Ayto shmainei oti mporei na doyme sthn Aqhna thn ypochfiothta ths k. Aggelopoyloy, mesa se ena plaisio eyrytera apodekto; O Prwqypoyrgos tassetai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh;

REPPAS: Ola ayta ta qemata qa antimetwpistoyn, symfwna me tis katastatikes diadikasies toy PASOK, thn katallhlh stigmh, poy den einai h paroysa. Me thn eykairia ths erwthshs sas, ofeilw na pw oti an kapoia kybernhsh exei analabei prwtoboylies gia thn apokentrwsh kai thn perifereiakh anaptyjh, einai h dikh mas kybernhsh. Gnwrizete poioi neoi qesmoi exoyn dhmioyrghqei sto xwro ths Aytodioikhshs se oles tis baqmides. Gnwrizete, epishs, poies armodiothtes kai poroi exoyn metaferqei sta organa ths ellhnikhs Perifereias. Ara, exoyme kaqe logo, na doyme th dikaiwsh aytwn twn politikwn epilogwn mas me thn anadeijh stis antistoixes qeseis twn katallhlwn proswpwn poy qa dwsoyn, kanontas prajh to orama poy exoyme oloi gia thn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, mia nea pnoh se aytoys toys qesmoys. Qymizw pws otan kaqierwsame th Nomarxiakh Aytodioikhsh, diatypwqhke apo th N.D. h qesh oti qa katarghqei h aireth nomarxiakh aytodioikhsh, an h N.D. ginei kybernhsh. Bebaiws, perase arketos xronos apo tote. Den akoysthke pali ayth h qesh. Omws, h alhqeia einai, oti apo thn antipoliteysh den eidame pote, otan kybernhse, prwtoboylies yper ths Apokentrwshs h ths anaptyjhs ths ellhnikhs Perifereias, mesw ths dhmioyrgias newn qesmwn sto xwro ths Aytodioikhshs, pragma sto opoio exei prwtostathsei h dikh mas kybernhsh. Ara, exoyme kaqe logo na anadeixqoyn oi kalyteroi, oi ikanoteroi, aytoi poy qa dwsoyn, me th symmetoxh toys sta ajiwmata sto xwro ths aytodioikhshs, mia nea pnoh stoys qesmoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Dioikhths toy IKA k. Nektarios anakoinwse xqes, oti symfwna me stoixeia, apodeixqhke oti tis syntajeis 15.000 nekrwn syntajioyxwn, tis epairnan kapoioi alloi. Mporeite na moy peite, o k. Nektarios afoy toys jerei, giati den toys kataggellei;

REPPAS: Pragmati, mesw ths diastayrwshs twn stoixeiwn diapistwqhke oti para polloi syntajioyxoi, oi opoioi exoyn ekleicei apo th zwh, e toytois feretai na synexizoyn na eisprattoyn syntajeis, mesw twn syggenwn toys h gnwstwn, oi opoioi exoyn apokrycei ayth thn pragmatikothta. Oi armodies yphresies diastayrwnoyn ayta ta stoixeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti kyrwseis qa epiblhqoyn;

REPPAS: Otan oloklhrwqei ayth h ereyna, tote oi Arxes qa paroyn kai tis analoges apofaseis, apodidontas tis eyqynes se aytoys poy pragmatika, ola ayta ta xronia, ekmetalleythkan xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy h toy megaloy asfalistikoy organismoy, pros idion ofelos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati einai megalos o ariqmos. Den mporei na gnwrizei oti prokeitai gia 15.000 periptwseis kai na to ``paizei'' Dioikhths. Ti rolo paizei, dhladh;

REPPAS: Ayto shmainei...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oti den jerei tipota...h toys kalyptei. Mhpws toys kalyptei o k. Nektarios;

REPPAS: Sto plaisio toy eksygxronismoy ths leitoyrgias twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn, exoyme thn eyxereia na diapistwnoyme tis paralhceis, ta laqh. An den eixame kanei ayth thn prospaqeia, ola ayta ta laqh kai oi paralhceis den qa eixan elqei sto fws ths dhmosiothtas. Erxontai sto fws ths dhmosiothtas kai aytomata xrhsimopoioyntai apo toys politikoys antipaloys mas gia na askhqei kritikh sthn kybernhsh. Ma, ayto einai to nohma toy eksygxronismoy twn yphresiwn, twn tomwn poy epixeiroyme sth dhmosia dioikhsh. Gia paradeigma, kanoyme elegxo sta dhmosia erga kai diapistwnontai kapoies kakotexnies. Mas kathgoroyn gia tis kakotexnies. Ma, an den yphrxan aytoi oi neoi qesmoi poy emeis egkaqidryoyme gia na diapistwnoyme tis kakotexnies, den qa miloyse kaneis gi aytes tis kakotexnies. An den eixame to ``Synhgoro toy Polith'' gia na diapistwnei tis paralhceis h tis kaqysterhseis sto xwro ths dhmosias dioikhshs, wste kai h antipoliteysh na mas kathgorei gi aytes tis paralhceis kai tis kaqysterhseis, den qa miloyse kaneis gi aytes. Emeis dhmioyrgoyme aytoys toys neoys qesmoys, eksygxronizoyme th leitoyrgia twn dhmosiwn yphresiwn kai toy IKA, wste na gnwrizoyme pws pragmatika exoyn ta pragmata kai na dinoyme tis katallhles apanthseis sta problhmata. Ayth einai h alhqeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai otan tis diapistwnete, ti kanete;

REPPAS: Dinoyme apanthseis se ola ayta ta problhmata me ton kalytero tropo, beltiwnontas thn poiothta leitoyrgias twn yphresiwn, ara thn poiothta ths zwhs toy polith.

Sas eyxaristw poly.

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