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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 19 Martioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos episkeptetai th M. Bretania. Apo to programma toy epishmainw to deipno ergasias, to opoio paraqetei ayrio to brady stis 7.30, ston Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo, o Prwqypoyrgos ths M. Bretanias Tony Mpler.

Sto telos ths ebdomadas, gnwrizete oti sth Stokxolmh qa ginei h Synodos Koryfhs ths E.E.. H Soyhdia askei thn proedria gi ayto to ejamhno. H Synodos qa exei ws antikeimeno thn antimetwpish twn qematwn poy gia prwth fora teqhkan sthn atzenta ths E.E., kata th Synodo Koryfhs sth Lissabona. Epishs, qa antimetwpisei kai alla qemata epikairothtas, metajy twn opoiwn, thn krish sth geitonikh PDGM.

Qa moy epitrecete na apanthsw se mia erwthsh poy moy teqhke graptws, prin apo ligo, apo ton k. Koen. H erwthsh einai h ejhs: "Pws antidra h kybernhsh sthn parathrhsh toy Arxiepiskopoy oti o pagkosmios ebraismos ftaiei gia to qema twn taytothtwn;" H apanthsh einai poly sygkekrimenh, thn exw dwsei allwste polles fores: Se ena dioikhtikoy xarakthra qema, opws einai h ekdosh twn newn taytothtwn, h kybernhsh proxwrhse se ejorqologismo ths olhs diadikasias, prokeimenoy na ejyphreteitai o poliths stis synallages toy me tis dhmosies yphresies, xwris na periorizetai h askhsh twn dikaiwmatwn toy me thn anagrafh diaforwn stoixeiwn poy den aforoyn thn anagnwrisimothta toy, alla tis pepoiqhseis toy. Oi isxyrismoi, oi opoioi kata kairoys diatypwnontai apo polles pleyres gia to qema ayto einai pantelws anypostatoi. Asfalws, einai ektos pragmatikothtas to oti kapoioi alloi epebalan ayth thn epilogh. Pisteyw oti enas tetoios isxyrismos, peran toy oti einai apolytws ceydhs, prokalei problhmata kai sth dieqnh eikona ths xwras, doqentos oti metajy twn allwn qetei se amfisbhthsh th dhmokratikh syneidhsh twn Ellhnwn politwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MOYRTZHS: Pws sxoliazete to ntokymanter toy BBC poy metadoqhke xqes gia thn tromokratia sthn Ellada, opoy isxyrizetai oti h apotyxia sthn antimetwpish ths ofeiletai se elleich boylhshs twn politikwn kai leei akomh oti ta melh ths "17N" exoyn thn prostasia beteranwn toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Prokeitai gia mia apolytws ayqaireth kataskeyh. Einai ena programma, to opoio exei ena xarakthra paraplhroforhshs kai apoprosanatolismoy. To sygkekrimeno qema -gnwrizete poly kala- apasxolei tis armodies yphresies ths xwras mas, oi opoies synergazontai stena me tis yphresies allwn xwrwn, kai ths M. Bretanias. Einai lyphro to fainomeno na askeitai kritikh gia to oti mexri twra den eixame ta epiqymhta apotelesmata, poy ayto einai pragmati alhqino. Alla h kritikh ayth ftanei mexri toy shmeioy na dikazontai proqeseis kai peripoy na xrewnetai sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, sthn Politeia, oti den epiqymei thn ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias. Ayto einai prwtakoysto. Synista aqliothta, na isxyrizetai kapoios kati tetoio. Einai epishs na aporei kaneis pws enas staqmos me ayto to dieqnes kyros kai thn ajiopistia, ftanei se ayth thn paroysiash programmatos me tetoio tropo poy pera apo to na paraplhroforei, oxi mono den bohqaei sthn eyodwsh twn prospaqeiwn gia thn ejarqrwsh ths tromokratias, antiqetws dysxerainei, qa elega, thn prospaqeia ayth, giati dhmioyrgei sygxysh. Lypoymaste para poly gia tetoioy eidoys dhmosieymata h programmata poy den exoyn sxesh me thn alhqeia. Aytes oi aqliothtes prepei na stamathsoyn. Den jerw ti einai ayto to opoio epidiwkei ekeinos poy xrhsimopoiei tetoia mesa, to bebaio einai pantws oti ayto poy epidiwkei den exei kamia sxesh me ayto poy anaferetai ws kentrikos stoxos: H antimetwpish kai h ejaleich ths tromokratias. Kamia sxesh me ayto. Ola ta alla ta afhnw sth dikh sas krish.

KAPPOS: Qelw na kanw dyo erwthseis: Prwton, se sxesh me thn krish sthn PGDM, pera apo tis prwtoboylies poy pairnei h kybernhsh se dieqnes epipedo, exei kata noy na analabei kapoies prwtoboylies opws p.x. enhmerwsh toy Koinoboylioy gia thn krish; Kai deyteron poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs se endexomenes syntagmatikes allages sto eswteriko twn Skopiwn;

REPPAS: To geitoniko kratos einai kyriarxo kratos kai qa antimetwpisei me tis dikes toy diadikasies kai me tis dikes toy dynameis thn krish poy exei jespasei. Emeis eimaste parontes se oles tis diaboyleyseis poy ginontai se dieqnes epipedo. Shmera, sto plaisio ths E.E., oi Ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn kai alloi ajiwmatoyxoi toy NATO kai ths E.E. syzhtoyn kai ayto to qema, me thn paroysia kai toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn toy geitonikoy kratoys k. Kerim. Pisteyoyme oti h KFOR einai h dynamh h opoia prepei na epideijei megalyterh apotelesmatikothta, na askhsei tis armodiothtes ths, na efarmosei to chfisma 1244 toy OHE poy den exei efarmostei. Metajy twn allwn, to chfisma ayto problepei ton afoplismo twn Albanwn ejtremistwn. Ayto den exei epiteyxqei. Etsi apodeiknyetai sthn prajh, apo tis metepeita ejelijeis. Ara, loipon, qa prepei na enisxyqei politika h kybernhsh toy geitonikoy kratoys -kai pisteyw oti ayth thn politikh yposthrijh thn exei apolytws apo th dieqnh koinothta- kai taytoxrona qa prepei oi dynameis poy h dieqnhs koinothta exei egkatasthsei sthn perioxh, sto plaisio ths KFOR, na askhsoyn to rolo toys me apotelesmatiko tropo, wste na apotrecoyn thn ejaplwsh aytwn twn fainomenwn. Fainomenwn ta opoia odhgoyn se reystothta kai astaqeia gia thn eyryterh perioxh.

KAPPOS: Ws pros ta ejeidikeymena, prokeitai na enhmerwqei to ellhniko Koinoboylio@;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ta qemata ayta ta antimetwpizei sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn toy to geitoniko kratos. Emeis eimaste parontes -to eipa kai ayto- stis dieqneis diaboyleyseis. Allo qema den antimetwpizoyme ayth thn wra. Pisteyoyme oti den xreiazetai.

KARGOYDH: Poia einai h atzenta ths synanthshs Shmith-Mpler;

REPPAS: H syzhthsh twn qematwn genikoy kai dimeroys endiaferontos. Oi dyo hgetes exoyn, sto plaisio ths E.E., poly kalh synergasia kai stenh epikoinwnia. Kriqhke skopimo kai apo tis dyo pleyres na synanthqoyn ayth thn periodo kai na synomilhsoyn gia qemata dimeroys, alla kai eyryteroy eyrwpaikoy endiaferontos. Kai ayto qa ginei aytes tis hmeres sth M. Bretania.

KARGOYDH: Qa symperilhfqei kai to qema ths tromokratias;

REPPAS: Tetoio qema den qetei kapoios, otan einai gnwsto oti ayto antimetwpizetai sto plaisio twn armodiwn yphresiwn twn dyo xwrwn, edw kai poly kairo. H koinh boylhsh exei ekfrastei gia thn antimetwpish kai ejaleich ths tromokratias. Allwste, den einai ellhniko fainomeno ayto, afora olon ton kosmo. Gnwrizete oti den yparxei qema syzhthshs ekei poy yparxei symfwnia. H syzhthsh prokaleitai otan diapistwnetai diafwnia metajy twn pleyrwn poy syzhtoyn. Alla, bebaiws, se mia tetoia epikoinwnia mporei na qesei ola ta qemata, opoiosdhpote symmetexei se mia tetoia syzhthsh. Den mporei na to apokleisei kaneis.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean yparxei opoiadhpote proetoimasia gia to endexomeno ypodoxhs prosfygwn apo ta boreia synora mas;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema toy kymatos prosfygwn, poy gia prwth fora emfanisthke kata th diarkeia ths gioygkoslabikhs krishs antimetwpisthke, sto plaisio ths E.E. Eixan lhfqei, kat arxhn, kapoies apofaseis, poy synistoyn kai ena plaisio, gia to pws mporei h Dieqnhs Koinothta na antimetwpisei ena tetoio endexomeno. Emeis, opws kai oi alles xwres, den blepoyme piqano na exoyme ekdhlwsh enos tetoioy kymatos prosfygwn kai pros th dikh mas perioxh. Aplws, mporw na pw oti exoyme ayjhsh twn aithsewn poy ypoballontai sto Projeneio mas gia thn ejasfalish adeiwn eisodoy sth xwra mas. Alla, ayto den exei kamia sxesh me ayto poy rwtate eseis. To lew ayto gia na mh ginei opoiadhpote sygxysh. Den antimetwpizoyme tetoio qema kai pisteyoyme oti den qa xreiastei na to antimetwpisoyme. Efoson, bebaiws, h katastash exei tetoia stoixeia, ta opoia odhgoyn kai se ena tetoio endexomeno, na eiste sigoyroi oti sto plaisio ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas, alla kai se synennohsh apeyqeias me thn kybernhsh toy geitonikoy kratoys, qa laboyme ki emeis ta metra mas, opws kaname kai sto parelqon. Tetoio qema, omws, den xreiazetai twra na to antimetwpisoyme.

SOYRMELIDHS: Me dedomeno, opws eipate, oti h KFOR den efarmozei plhrws to chfisma 1244, h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa energopoihsei tis monomereis symfwnies poy exei me th PGDM, h opoia zhtaei energopoihsh kai bohqeia kai se anqrwpoys kai se yliko..

REPPAS: Exoyme qesei se efarmogh aytes tis symfwnies tis throyme kai eimaste synepeis se ayta ta opoia symfwnoyme kai ypografoyme. Gnwrizete thn prosfath symfwnia metajy twn ypoyrgwn Amynas twn dyo kratwn, ton perasmeno Dekembrio. Se ayto to plaisio exoyme aposteilei ylikh bohqeia kai yposthrijh sto geitoniko kratos, pragma poy qa synexisoyme na kanoyme, efoson ayto xreiazetai.

GROMAN: Qa anaferqw se ena sxolio sas, sthn prwth erwthsh. Eipate oti einai lyphro to na yparxei kritikh gia to oti den exoyme ta anamenomena apotelesmata, kati poy einai alhqeia. Ti apotelesmata anamenate, persi ton Ioynio, otan arxisan oi ereynes kai h synergasia me th Skotlant Giarnt;

REPPAS: Eipa oti den askeitai kritikh mono gia to oti den yparxoyn ta epiqymhta apotelesmata, pragma to opoio einai alhqeia. Den exoyme ta epiqymhta apotelesmata, to exw dhlwsei, kat epanalhch, ayto, den to lew gia prwth fora. Alla, h kritikh edw fqanei mexri toy shmeioy na dikazontai proqeseis: Kapoioi na qewroyn oti emeis den epiqymoyme na ejarqrwsoyme thn tromokratia. Gnwrizete oti h tromokratia einai mia dieqnhs mastiga. Apo th dikh mas pleyra ginontai syntonismenes prospaqeies me th symmetoxh kai th synergasia, bebaiws kai twn armodiwn yphresiwn twn allwn xwrwn. H Ellada einai mia xwra asfalhs. Ayto poy kapoioi epidiwkoyn, opws fainetai, einai toyto: Na paroysiazoyn thn Ellada ws mia xwra sthn opoia oi polites briskontai se kindyno. Ayto den exei kamia sxesh me thn alhqeia. Mporeite monoi sas na sygkrinete ton tropo zwhs sthn Ellada, me to ti symbainei se alles megales xwres, gia na bgalete ta symperasmata sas. Ayth einai h apostomwtikh apanthsh poy mporei na doqei, oson afora ayto to qema.

GARGALAKOS: Dhmosieyontai plhrofories oti sta xeria toy Prwqypoyrgoy brisketai mia dhmoskophsh -kat alloys dyo kai treis- poy katagrafoyn ragdaia syrriknwsh ths eklogikhs epirrohs toy PASOK. Exete kapoio sxolio ep aytoy;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den exei sth diaqesh toy to apotelesma opoiasdhpote dhmoskophshs, eimai kathgorhmatikos se ayto. Ayth einai h alhqeia kai mono ayth. Kata ta alla, bebaiws, ginontai kata kairoys dhmoskophseis. Exoyme diatypwsei mia pagia qesh. Kalo einai na kerdizeis prwties sto plaisio tetoiwn ereynwn, akomh kalytero omws einai na kerdizeis thn prwtia stis ekloges. Emeis ajiologoyme ta apotelesmata twn opoiwn metrhsewn tiqentai ypoch mas. Ayto, omws, poy exoyme na kanoyme einai na parameinoyme afosiwmenoi, proshlwmenoi sto ergo mas giati apo ayto qa kriqoyme gia na kerdisoyme tis ekloges, otan kai pali klhqei o ellhnikos laos na eklejei thn kybernhsh toy.

SEISOBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean einai ayjhmenos o ariqmos aithsewn adeiwn eisodoy, tis teleytaies hmeres, apo th FYROM kai an nai pws antimetwpizetai;

REPPAS: Eipa oti pragmati yparxei sto Projeneio mas sta Skopia ayjhsh twn aithsewn gia adeia eisodoy sthn Ellada, alla den exw ypoch moy ton sygkekrimeno ariqmo. H ayjhsh ayth, pantws, den einai tetoia, wste na odhgei sto symperasma oti exoyme ena oionei kyma to opoio dhmioyrgeitai metajy twn politwn toy geitonikoy kratoys poy epiqymoyn na egkatastaqoyn sthn Ellada. Den prokeitai peri aytoy, eimai kathgorhmatikos.

KARELIAS: Gnwrizete fantazomai thn peripeteia dyo Ellhnwn politwn, poy tyxainei na einai kai dhmosiografoi, sas erwtw kai ws ypoyrgo Typoy, sthn Iordania. Epeidh ta osa apokalyptontai einai mallon anatrixiastika gia osa synebhsan ekei, qa hqela na sas rwthsw oi ellhnikes arxes plhroforhsan tis iordanikes gia th zwh kai th drash aytwn twn dyo anqrwpwn sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Prepei na kanw gnwsto -eseis isws to gnwrizete- oti thn Paraskeyh to brady egina dekths ths plhroforias apo thn efhmerida sthn opoia ergazeste, oti exoyn syllhfqei sthn Iordania oi dyo dhmosiografoi. Kinhtopoihqhke o kratikos mhxanismos. to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, mesw ths Presbeias mas sthn Iordania, ekane tis analoges parastaseis. Prepei na pw oti, toylaxiston sthn arxh, oi yphresies ths Iordanias den htan apolytws enhmeres gia thn tyxh twn dyo sympolitwn mas. Pisteyw oti ayth h stenh synergasia kai oi prwtoboylies poy analabame, odhghsan se ayto to telikws kalo apotelesma, na apeleyqerwqoyn aytoi oi dyo sympolites mas, oi opoioi kratoyntan gia kapoies wres kai anakriqhkan apo yphresies ths Iordanias. Asfalws, kaqe kratos, sto plaisio toy Syntagmatos kai twn nomwn poy exei qespisei, askei ta kaqhkonta toy me ton tropo poy ekeino epilegei, omws, ta dikaiwmata twn politwn prepei na ginontai sebasta. Exoyme ayjhmeno endiaferon gia toys Ellhnes polites efoson briskontai se mia allh xwra. Ayto to katasthsame safes apo thn prwth stigmh kai pisteyoyme oti synypologisthke, synektimhqhke gia tis telikes epiloges poy ekanan oi yphresies ths Iordanias. Oi arxes ths Iordanias eixan ypoch toys kapoia stoixeia gia enan ek twn dyo, o opoios -gnwrizete- oti ws dhmosiografos asxoleitai me ta qemata ths perioxhs kai gia megales periodoys brisketai se aythn. To pws synelejan ayta ta stoixeia einai qema aytwn twn yphresiwn. Emeis ayto poy exoyme na poyme einai oti se tetoia qemata exoyme eyaisqhsia kai qa paramenoyme se ayth th qesh, kaqe fora, poy kapoios poliths mas brisketai se kindyno h dhmioyrgoyntai periorismoi gia thn askhsh twn kaqhkontwn kai twn dikaiwmatwn toy.

KARELIAS: Epeidh aytes tis hmeres h kybernhsh epejergazetai ena neo antitromokratiko nomosxedio kai me dedomenh thn empeiria ths periodoy 1990-93 den anhsyxeite mhpws tetoia fainomena metaferqoyn sto eswteriko ths xwras;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh to ena me to allo. H nomoqetikh prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs afora thn katapolemhsh toy organwmenoy egklhmatos. Den prokeitai gia antitromokratiko nomo. Oi ryqmiseis aytes briskontai se armonia me tis probleceis toy Syntagmatos mas. Einai -qa elega- apotypwsh twn oswn symfwnhqhkan metajy 150 kratwn toy OHE, ligoys mhnes prin, sth syskech toy egine sto Palermo. Aytes oi ryqmiseis yparxoyn me ton enan h ton allo tropo, mallon sthn pio aysthrh ekdoxh toys, sto nomiko plaisio twn allwn xwrwn ths E.E. H kritikh poy askeitai den dikaiologeitai, pisteyoyme oti proerxetai apo agnoia. H syzhthsh poy qa akoloyqhsei meta thn paroysiash ayths ths prwtoboylias apo to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, tis epomenes hmeres, qa fwtisei oles tis ptyxes ayths ths prwtoboylias, wste otan katateqei ayto to keimeno sth Boylh me th morfh nomosxedioy, na mhn yparxoyn oi antirrhseis poy yparxoyn shmera. Prepei na sas pw, pantws, oti ayto to keimeno den exei kamia sxesh me to nomo poy isxyse ekeinh thn periodo sthn opoia anaferqhkate. Kai pantws, ginontai sebasta ta dikaiwmata twn politwn. Enw, taytoxrona, ajiopoioyntai oi dynatothtes poy exoyme shmera, prokeimenoy na fqasoyme sto apotelesma poy oloi epiqymoyme: Na antimetwpisoyme kai na ejaleicoyme thn opoia paranomh drasthriothta, eite ayth anaferetai sthn tromokratia, eite sto doylemporio, eite sthn diakinhsh narkwtikwn, eite se alloys tomeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den prokeitai gia antitromokratiko nomo. Gia poioys to ftiaxnetai ayto to nomo. Gia thn tromokratia den ton ftiaxnete;

REPPAS: Apanthsa molis prin.

KAPPOS: Epeidh kanate anafora sthn yperaspish twn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn. Pairnw mia anafora dikia sas poy anaferetai sthn agnoia twn anqrwpwn poy antidroyn se ayto to nomosxedio kai sas lew oti, prwton edw exoyme na kanoyme me proedroys. Ton proedro p.x. toy Dikhgorikoy Syllogoy, me sygkekrimenoys egklhmatologoys, opws ton k. Panoysh. Kai, deyteron gia poia eyaisqhsia milame otan den yparxei mono to antitromokratiko nomosxedio, alla einai kai o nomos gia ton periorismo twn diadhlwsewn;

REPPAS: Kai sta dyo qemata exw apanthsei.

KAPPOS: Ayth einai eyaisqhsia, dhladh;

REPPAS: Megalh kai anagnwrizetai apo ton ellhniko lao.

Sas eyxaristw poly!

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