Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-01-29

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 29 Ianoyarioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw, en taxei, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

To prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke ton epikefalhs ths Anejarthths Arxhs, toy Synhgoroy toy Polith k. Nikhforo Diamantoyro. Ayth thn wra, synantatai me ton k. Lamph Nikolaoy, ths Epitrophs twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Argotera, stis 3, qa dexqei to gnwsto logotexnh, Proedro ths Politistikhs Olympiadas k. Tito Patrikio.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa parastei sthn ekdhlwsh gia ton eqelontismo, sto plaisio ths proetoimasias ths xwras mas gia to 2004. Argotera, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa proedreysei se syskech synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn -toy k. Xristodoylakh, toy k. Laliwth kai toy k. Anwmerith- me qema toys ydatinoys poroys. Stis 13.30, kata ta kaqierwmena, qa kocei thn pita sto Megaro Majimoy. To apogeyma, stis 7.30, qa exoyme synergasia gia qemata ths politikhs mas sto xwro twn Meswn Enhmerwshs.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreysei se syskech synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn -toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy, toy k. Laliwth kai toy k. Benizeloy- me qema to aerodromio toy Ellhnikoy kai thn prooptikh gia to xwro ayto, meta th metafora toy aerodromioy sta Spata. Argotera, stis 13.00, qa dexqei omada boyleytwn, sto plaisio toy programmatos poy einai se ejelijh kai afora synanthseis me boyleytes.

Thn Pempth, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qemata thn enhmerwsh gia thn ejelijh ths prospaqeias gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004 kai thn toyristikh politikh, qema poy kai palaiotera eixe entaxqei sthn hmerhsia diatajh, prokeimenoy na syzhthqei, alla telikws den syzhthqhke. Epanerxetai twra sthn atzenta toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Stis 19.00, qa synergastei me ton ypoyrgo Ergasias kai Koinwnikwn Asfalisewn Taso Giannitsh.

To programma ths Paraskeyhs, oson afora thn "Wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy", qa to doyme tis epomenes hmeres, meta th lhjh ths proqesmias kataqeshs epikairwn erwthsewn. Gnwrizete oti thn Tetarth lhgei h proqesmia ayth.

Opws gnwrizete, exei programmatistei episkech kybernhtikoy klimakioy, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, sthn India. H episkech ayth, meta apo synennohseis twn dyo xwrwn, qa ginei kanonika, opws problepetai sto programma. H peripeteia, me ton prosfato seismo sthn India, antimetwpizetai apo tis arxes ths megalhs ayths xwras. Emeis, meta apo synennohsh, symballoyme sthn prospaqeia poy kataballoyn oi arxes ths Indias na antimetwpisoyn ta problhmata meta to megalo seismo. Hdh, ayrio, anaxwroyn apo th xwra mas dyo aeroskafh typoy C-130, prokeimenoy na metaferoyn ena shmantiko ariqmo skhnwn. Einai ayto poy zhthsan oi yphresies ths filhs xwras. Eimaste, bebaiws, ana pasa stigmh, sth diaqesh toys, prokeimenoy na antapokriqoyme sto metro twn dynatothtwn mas kai na prosferoyme kaqe dynath bohqeia.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARAKWSTAS: Sxetizetai dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia ta "koyrasmena palikaria" me thn proqesh toy na proxwrhsei se anasxhmatismo;

REPPAS: Den tiqetai qema anasxhmatismoy. Parakalw, na tonisete idiaiterws th lejh "den".

KALARITHS: Yparxei dhmoskophsh, shmera, sthn efhmerida "NEA" ths VPRC poy ferei th N.D. na prohgeitai, me pente posostiaies monades, toy PASOK kai to komma toy k. Abramopoyloy erxetai trito me 16,8%. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Dhmoskophseis, mesa se mia tetraetia, ginontai polles. Ekloges, omws, ginontai mia fora. Einai oi ekloges poy anadeiknyoyn thn Kybernhsh. Den agnooyme ta apotelesmata twn dhmoskophsewn. Kaqe allo. Ayto to opoio, omws, prepei na kanoyme einai oxi na epidiwkoyme kala apotelesmata se peristasiakes dhmoskophseis, alla na antapokriqoyme sto ergo poy mas aneqese o ellhnikos laos, na proodeysei h xwra, na ginei kalyterh h kaqhmerinh zwh twn politwn, giati ayto einai to xreos mas. Etsi kerdizoyme kai tis ekloges. Oi dhmoskophseis exoyn thn ajia toys. Bebaiws, prepei na deite ta epimeroys stoixeia poy synqetoyn thn taytothta kaqe dhmoskophshs. An exei kapoia shmasia gia sas -epanalambanw, to exw epishmanei kai allh fora- to synolo twn dhmoskophsewn poy anaferontai se deigmata apo olh th xwra, den aforoyn th nhsiwtikh Ellada. Sto deigma ayto, dhladh, den perilambanontai polites poy zoyn sth nhsiwtikh Ellada. Gnwrizete poia einai ta pososta twn politikwn dynamewn se aytes tis perioxes, sto Aigaio, tis Kyklades, ta Dwdekanhsa, ta nhsia toy Ionioy.

GIANNISHS: Sxetika me ayto poy eipwqhke gia bohqeia sthn India, qa doqoyn kai kapoia xrhmata; Exei akoystei gia 100 ekatommyria...

REPPAS: Pragmati, ena poso 100 ekatommyriwn draxmwn apo to programma dieqnoys anqrwpistikhs bohqeias toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, qa stalei sthn India gia na antimetwpisei h filh xwra ektaktes anagkes.

KONTOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na mas peite poioys ennoei o Prwqypoyrgos me thn ekfrash toy "koyrasmena palikaria". Afora stelexh ths kybernhshs en energeia, afora stelexh toy PASOK poy kateixan kommatikes h kybernhtikes qeseis; Kai giati o Prwqypoyrgos eniwse thn anagkh na kanei diorqwtikh dhlwsh; H asafeia ayth, dhladh, poy apodidetai;

REPPAS: Den yphrje pote asafeia. Gnwrizete oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei pei pws eimaste gia ta dyskola. O Prwqypoyrgos eipe pws den koyrazomaste kai den qa koyrastoyme gia na feroyme se peras to ergo poy mas aneqese o ellhnikos laos. Kai to ergo poy mas aneqese o ellhnikos laos exei dyskoles pleyres, alla gi` ayto eimaste edw. Gia na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ayta ta dyskola problhmata. Koyrasmenoi einai ekeinoi, sthn antipoliteysh, poy ejantloyn thn politikh paroysia toys se mia steira antikybernhtikh, mikrokommatikh stash, me atekmhriwtes kataggelies. Allwste, perasame "test kopwsews" sto opoio mas ypebale o ellhnikos laos, thn 9h Aprilioy. Eimaste apolytws etoimoi, loipon, na antimetwpisoyme tis nees proklhseis poy exoyme mprosta mas.

BITALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai apolyta ikanopoihmenos me thn paragwgh kai thn prowqhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy se oloys toys tomeis; Exei entopisei, isws, tomeis stoys opoioys ysterei h prowqhsh toy kybernhtikoy ergoy;

REPPAS: Ean eseis anaferqeite se ena problhma, egw mporw eykola na anaferqw se dyo problhmata poy yparxoyn sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. Ean eseis anaferqeite se 100 problhmata, mporw eykola na anaferqw se 101 problhmata, poy yparxoyn sthn ellhnikh koinwnia. H prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh einai synexhs. To kybernhtiko sxhma doyleyei me ikanopoihtiko tropo kai apodidei. Asfalws, pantote yparxei periqwrio beltiwshs ston tomea ths apotelesmatikothtas. Giati h prospaqeia -kata koinh omologia- einai megalh kai ayth h prospaqeia ths kybernhshs, pisteyoyme, oti qa dwsei karpoys, kaqws qa proxwra o xronos. Asfalws yparxoyn problhmata. Kai to oti yparxoyn problhmata apotelei gia mas to ereqisma kai to krithrio gia na ginoyme akomh kalyteroi sth doyleia poy kanoyme kaqe hmera, ws ypoyrgoi, ws stelexh ths kybernhshs. Ara, loipon, den tiqetai tetoio qema. Den yparxei kamia koinwnia se olo ton kosmo poy na mhn exei problhmata. Den qa mporoyse, bebaiws, na apotelei ejairesh h ellhnikh koinwnia.

BITALHS: Exoyn mhpws entopistei ekeinoi oi tomeis poy paroysiazoyn ta pio sobara problhmata;

REPPAS: Exoyme milhsei gi ayta ta qemata, amesws meta tis ekloges, pragma poy deixnei me peritrano tropo oti exoyme sygkekrimeno programma, sygkekrimeno politiko sxediasmo, basei toy opoioy efarmozoyme ayto to programma. Amesws meta tis ekloges, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio labame shmantikes apofaseis se tomeis krisimoys gia th zwh twn politwn kai gia thn poreia ths xwras mas, opws einai h Dhmosia Dioikhsh, h Ygeia, h Paideia kai o tomeas ths Apasxolhshs. Ola ayta ta qemata, gnwrizete poly kala, mas apasxolhsan, synexizoyn na mas apasxoloyn kai qa mas apasxoloyn synexws. Giati h zwh, kaqe hmera, dhmioyrgei mia nea pragmatikothta thn opoia prepei na antimetwpiseis. H prospaqeia mas, loipon, den exei hmeromhnia lhjhs. Ekteinetai se baqos xronoy. Pisteyoyme oti ayth h prospaqeia einai qetikh, dinei apotelesmata kai opws, mexri twra, to exei ektimhsei o ellhnikos laos, etsi pisteyoyme oti qa synexisei na to ektima kai qa mas dinei thn empistosynh toy.

LAKOPOYLOS: Enocei ths syzhthshs poy qa ginei sth Boylh gia th systash proanakritikhs epitrophs, ystera apo protash ths N.D., me bash to porisma Ntogiakoy, den gnwrizoyme pote qa ginei, qa hqela na sas rwthsw prwton, poies qeseis qa paroysiasei h kybernhsh kai deyteron, ti qa kanei sthn chfoforia;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola einai qema toy Proedroy ths Boylhs se synennohsh me ta kommata na orisei thn hmera syzhthshs ths sxetikhs protashs. Einai kati gia to opoio den mporw na milhsw giati den gnwrizw. Oson afora twra, thn idia th syzhthsh, gnwrizete poly kala poies qeseis exoyme ekfrasei. H protash ayth einai proxeirh kai atekmhriwth. Ginetai epiklhsh diatajewn poy den isxyoyn, agnooyntai diatajeis poy isxyoyn kai exoyn kaqoristikh shmasia, prokeimenoy kapoios na bgalei ena asfales symperasma. Kai, bebaiws, olh ayth h ereyna apo ton eisaggeliko leitoyrgo den symperielabe, metajy twn allwn, thn anazhthsh stoixeiwn kai plhroforiwn apo tis armodies yphresies, wste kai me ayta ta stoixeia, o armodios leitoyrgos na diamorfwsei thn telikh krish toy. Otan erqei h wra na anakoinwsei o Proedros ths Boylhs pote qa ginei ayth h syzhthsh, tote qa exoyme th dynatothta ki emeis, me perissoteres leptomereies, mesa sthn aiqoysa ths Boylhs na poyme thn apoch mas. Kai oi boyleytes einai aytoi poy qa krinoyn.

LAKOPOYLOS: Me bash ayta poy eipate, exete kapoia ektimhsh giati -opws eipate- o k. Ntogiakos den symperielabe, ayta poy eipate, sthn ereyna toy.

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete polla qemata na ta anaferoyme gia prwth fora sth syzhthsh poy qa ginei sth Boylh. Mhn anaptyjoyme twra to synolo ths epixeirhmatologias h me analytiko tropo to skeptiko poy exoyme gi ayto to qema. As epifylaxqoyme. Kante ypomonh kapoies hmeres h ebdomades, giati den gnwrizw pote qa oristei gia syzhthsh ayth h protash.

GARGALAKOS: Emfanizetai na yparxei mia diastash apocewn, anamesa sthn kybernhsh kai ton Proedro ths Boylhs, sxetika me to gnwsto qema poy dhmioyrghqhke apo anakoinwseis toy k. Kaklamanh kai twn Amerikanwn boyleytwn. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Kyrie Bitalh kai k. Kampoyrakh qelete na rwthsete ki eseis gia to qema ayto;

BITALHS-KAMPOYRAKHS: Nai, nai.

REPPAS: Apantw, loipon, se oloys sas. Gnwrizete oti pagiws den sxoliazoyme tis qeseis toy Proedroy ths Boylhs. Den mporei na ginei logos gia qema poy proerxetai apo mia dhqen diastash. Allwste, gnwrizete oti o Proedros ths Boylhs me to kyros toy symballei sthn prowqhsh twn eqnikwn qematwn kai pantote milaei meta parrhsias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qelw na moy peite, ean einai se gnwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti h EYP xrhsimopoioyse dolofonoys gia na eisxwrhsoyn sth 17 Noembrh.

REPPAS: Eiste poly kathgorhmatikos otan anafereste se qemata qetontas erwthseis. Prepei na sas pw oti h idia h fysh aytoy toy qematos den prosferetai gia dhmosia syzhthsh. O tropos, dhladh, me ton opoio energoyn oi armodies yphresies, den mporei na apotelesei antikeimeno dhmosias syzhthshs. Poly perissotero, otan orismenes pleyres poy exoyn sxesh me mia ypoqesh, apoteloyn antikeimeno ereynas sto plaisio ths dioikhshs h ths dikaiosynhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai sth dikaiosynh ayto to qema; To exei steilei h kybernhsh sth dikaiosynh;

REPPAS: Edwsa apanthsh. Gi ayto to eidiko qema exei milhsei o armodios ypoyrgos kai htan safhs kai katatopistikos. Menoyme, loipon, se ayta poy exei pei h kybernhsh, afenos dia toy armodioy ypoyrgoy kai afeteroy dia toy kybernhtikoy ekproswpoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh aytoys toys xrhsimopoiei kai gia alloys skopoys;

REPPAS: Apanthsa. Den prokeitai na epitrecoyme kamia syzhthsh gia tetoia qemata kai malista me tetoio tropo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prokeitai tis epomenes hmeres na ginei anasxhmatismos, gia na fygoyn ta ``koyrasmena palikaria'';

REPPAS: Sthn erwthsh sas perilambanontai dyo erwthseis, stis opoies apanthsa.

KAPPOS: Epeidh to qema den einai mono astynomiko, einai kai politiko, yparxei pragmatika kalych apo pleyras ths kybernhshs apenanti se tetoies energeies;

REPPAS: Epeidh akribws einai politiko to qema kai exei ayth th shmasia, parakalw mh qelete na metablhqeite se astynomikoys poy anazhtoyn na broyn ti akribws symbainei me kaqe leptomereia se ayth thn ypoqesh.

KAPPOS: Den anaferomai sto astynomiko meros, anaferomaste sto politiko, to opoio egkeitai se dhmosio elegxo kai akribws ekei tiqetai h erwthsh.

REPPAS: Gia ayto to qema einai se ejelijh sxetikh ereyna.

XONDROS: Se prohgoymenes dhlwseis sas eipate oti to komma Abramopoyloy einai qema ths N.D. Sth dhmoskophsh poy bghke blepoyme na pairnei 16% to komma Abramopoyloy kai h N.D. na einai pente monades mprosta apo to PASOK. H analogia, dhladh, paei na ginei enas pros enan, oson afora toys chfoforoys toy PASOK kai ths N.D. poy pane ston k. Abramopoylo. Epimenete se aytes tis dhlwseis sas;

REPPAS: Qewreite oti ayto einai to problhma poy exei na antimetwpisei shmera h kybernhsh; @H einai to problhma ths anergias h to problhma ths beltiwshs twn synqhkwn leitoyrgias twn nosokomeiwn h ths anabaqmishs ths paideias h ths beltiwshs twn yphresiwn poy parexei o dhmosios tomeas; Ayta einai ta problhmata poy antimetwpizei h kybernhsh. Gia thn kybernhsh den einai problhma ayto, sto opoio eseis anaferqhkate. H kybernhsh antimetwpizei ta problhmata poy einai problhmata gia th xwra, gia toys polites. Apo thn ikanopoihtikh h mh antimetwpish aytwn twn pragmatikwn problhmatwn qa kriqei kai h tyxh ths kybernhshs. Pisteyoyme, epeidh exoyme empistosynh stis dynameis mas, oti qa dikaiwqoyme. Giati h prospaqeia mas otan koryfwqei qa apodwsei karpoys.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela na rwthsw poy apodidete thn profanh koyrash meroys toy eklogikoy swmatos, to opoio stis prohgoymenes ekloges feretai na sas eixe yperchfisei, enw ayth th stigmh amfitalanteyetai h exei perasei se alles pleyres. Eseis poy to apodidete;

REPPAS: Aytes einai dikes sas diapistwseis. Einai symperasmata mias dhmoskophshs. Prepei na sas pw oti emeis eimaste kybernhsh, ta alla politika kommata anhkoyn sthn antipoliteysh, ypo th mia h thn allh morfh. Eimaste parontes me to ergo mas, me tis apofaseis mas, me thn ypografh mas. Ayto antilambaneste, dhmioyrgei, peristasiaka, problhmata se osoys qa hqelan isws mia allh politikh h amesa apotelesmata. Antiqetws, me thn antipoliteysh, poy sto synolo ths mporei na exei ena logo o opoios kolakeyei toys polites. Einai enas logos poy mporei eykola na einai arestos. Emeis, loipon, den exoyme kyrio stoxo mas na epikratoyme stis dhmoskophseis. Kyrios stoxos mas -aytos einai o gnwmonas ths politikhs mas- einai na paei mprosta h xwra, na zhsei kalytera o Ellhnas poliths. Me thn anagnwrish ths doyleias mas, qa erqei to kalo apotelesma kai sthn kalph kai stis dhmoskophseis, poy diejagontai ekeinh thn periodo poy plhsiazoyme pros thn kalph. Den exete zhsei polles dhmoskophseis me apotelesmata, ta opoia den dikaiwqhkan sthn kalph; Einai prwth fora poy tiqetai tetoio qema;

KARGOYDH: Alla yparxoyn diorqwtikes kinhseis, lambanontas ypoch kapoia peristasiaka -opws ta lete- apotelesmata.

REPPAS: Exoyn gnwsh oi fylakes.

Sas eyxaristw.

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