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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 4 Dekembrioy 2000

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI

KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw, en taxei, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis prosexeis hmeres:

O Prwqypoyrgos, ayth thn wra, synantatai me ton Proedro ths Boylgarias k. Petar Stogianof, o opoios brisketai sthn Ellada, sto plaisio epishmhs episkechs. Qa akoloyqhsoyn dhlwseis kai o Prwqypoyrgos qa paraqesei, en synexeia, geyma. To brady, gnwrizete oti o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, o opoios exei proskalesei to Boylgaro Proedro, qa paraqesei deipno pros timhn toy.

Ayrio, to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa proedreysei se syskech proetoimasias, enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs sth Nikaia ths Gallias. Argotera, stis 12.00, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. H synedriash ayth mporei na qewrhqei synexeia ths synedriashs ths prohgoymenhs Pempths. To brady, stis 8.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei, sto plaisio ekdhlwshs poy diorganwnei to Ellhno-amerikaniko Epimelhthrio. H omilia toy, asfalws, qa einai oikonomikoy periexomenoy.

Thn Tetarth, stis 12.00, h ellhnikh antiproswpeia, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo anaxwrei gia th Nikaia ths Gallias, opoy prokeitai na diejaxqei h Synodos Koryfhs ths E.E., ypo gallikh proedria.

Shmera to prwi, o k. Petros Synadinos, mexri twra dieyqynwn symboylos toy ``AQHNA 2004'', ypebale, me epistolh, thn paraithsh toy ston Prwqypoyrgo. Anaferetai se proswpikoys logoys poy ton odhghsan se ayth thn paraithsh. Eyxaristhse ton Prwqypoyrgo gia th sthrijh poy eixe apo thn kybernhsh olh ayth thn periodo kai thn empistosynh me thn opoia ton periebale h kybernhsh. Eyxhqhke na oloklhrwqei h prospaqeia ths xwras mas me apolyth epityxia. Prepei na poyme oti einai ajioshmeiwto to ergo poy epitelese o k. Synadinos se mia krisimh periodo gia thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas. Pragmatika h symbolh toy htan poly qetikh se ayth thn prospaqeia.

Qa moy epitrecete na anaferqw se ena gegonos, thn paroysia ekproswpwn ths N.D. se mia ekdhlwsh poy egine stoy Makrygiannh. Gnwrizete oti den einai h prwth fora poy h N.D. apodeiknyei poso proskollhmenh einai sto parelqon ths. Einai, omws, prwth fora -kai ayto jenizei- poy ekproswphqhke epishmws h synthrhtikh paratajh se mia ekdhlwsh dixasmoy, gia na apodeijei etsi ti akribws ennoei me to efeyrhma peri mesaioy xwroy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Qa epimeinw sto qema ths ejafanishs toy nayth ston Peiraia, epeidh thn Paraskeyh epimenate edw oti eginan oles oi deoyses energeies pros enhmerwsh. Apodeixqhke, ek twn ysterwn, oti den egine kamia energeia. Parakoloyqw, epi 30 xronia to ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias kai to YEN bgazei to pio plhres deltio Typoy. Kai gia 20-25 hmeres den anefere to gegonos ths ejafanishs toy nayth.

REPPAS: To YEN exei ekdwsei deltio Typoy, to opoio exete ypoch sas ki eseis, afoy parakoloyqeite apo konta thn enhmerwsh poy parexei to ypoyrgeio. Sas eipa, metajy twn allwn, oti kalese th mhtera kai thn adelfh toy ejafanisqentos, prokeimenoy na dwsei plhrofories kai na tis enhmerwsei gia tis energeies poy exei kanei h Politeia. Sas eipa oti apo thn prwth stigmh, xwris na exei ginei enhmerwsh, exoyn apeyqynqei oi armodies yphresies stis dikastikes kai astynomikes arxes, prokeimenoy na diereynhsoyn tis synqhkes ths ejafanishs toy Gewrgioy Kampoyrh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den einai ayto to shmeio poy ekana thn erwthsh. To gegonos den anegrafh sto deltio Typoy poy kaqhmerinws perilambanei akomh kai oti ejebrasqh mia tsanta h ena ashmanto gegonos. Ayto to gegonos den kategrafh sto deltio Typoy. Kai ean den yphrxe h dhmosiografikh ereyna, ayto to gegonos den qa to jerame akoma, anejarthtws ean eginan h oxi oi deoyses energeies.

REPPAS: Prepei na dieykrinisoyme, loipon, oti oi energeies exoyn ginei. H enhmerwsh poy den yphrje, den ephrease se tipota thn ejelijh twn ereynwn, prokeimenoy na diapistwsoyme tis synqhkes ths ejafanishs aytoy toy polith. Apo thn allh, den anegrafh, ekeinh thn hmera poy egine, se deltio Typoy kai den enhmerwqhkan ta MME kai h koinh gnwmh, to oti sth Dieyqynsh Naytikhs Ergasias proshlqan h mhtera kai h adelfh toy ejafanisqentos, poy synodeyontan malista apo oikogeneiako filo toys, anwtato ajiwmatiko twn Enoplwn Dynamenwn ths xwras, gia na enhmerwqoyn. Oyte ayto anegrafh ekeinh thn hmera, thn hmera dhladh poy egine. Ayto den shmainei -epanalambanw- oti den eginan apo thn prwth stigmh oi energeies poy eprepe na ginoyn. Ean yphrje mia kaqysterhsh, oson afora thn enhmerwsh, ayto einai ena allhs tajhs zhthma, to opoio afora sygkekrimenes yphresies. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti o armodios ypoyrgos exei diatajei th dienergeia ereynas kai gi ayth thn ptyxh toy oloy qematos.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Se sxesh me ta oikonomika ths etaireias ayths, me tis metoxes kai me to epapeiloymeno krax, opws anaferoyn kai metoxoi kai mikrometoxoi. H kybernhsh qa prostateysei aytoys toys anqrwpoys poy kateqesan ta lefta toys sthn etaireia;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti hdh gia mia allh etaireia poy einai eishgmenh sto Xrhmatisthrio kai einai megalometoxos, mporei na pei kaneis, ths sygkekrimenhs etaireias, sthn opoia ki eseis anafereste, exei lhfqei sygkekrimenh apofash kai einai ektos diapragmateyshs oi metoxes ths sto Xrhmatisthrio, mexri twra kai gia tis epomenes hmeres, mexri thn 6 Dekembrioy. Kata ta alla, den qa syzhthsoyme ayth thn wra ton tropo me ton opoio h etaireia qa prepei na antimetwpisei, mesw twn dikwn ths kanonwn leitoyrgias, ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn meta tis teleytaies ejelijeis. Yparxei ena plaisio genikotero, poy ryqmizei pws leitoyrgoyn oi epixeirhseis se tetoies periptwseis, poy mporei na pei kaneis oti apoteloyn periodoys idiaiteres, me stoixeia krishs gi thn prooptikh aytwn twn epixeirhsewn. Den yparxei, ayth thn wra, kati idiaitero, kati ejairetiko.

ARGYROS: Anaferei o k. Synadinos, sthn epistolh toy, ean yphrxan problhmata synergasias me alla stelexh toy ``AQHNA 2004'', poios qa ton antikatasthsei kai ean qa doqei h epistolh paraithshs sth dhmosiothta;

REPPAS: O k. Synadinos esteile mia epistolh ston Prwqypoyrgo. Mporei na th dwsei sth dhmosiothta. Den periexei ayth h epistolh, ej oswn gnwrizw, stoixeia ta opoia den einai dhmosiopoihsima. O k. Synadinos periorizetai se ayta poy ki egw anefera sthn arxh. Den anaferetai se otidhpote allo, poy eseis yponohsate me thn erwthsh sas. Kata ta alla, to qema ayto paramenei anoikto, oson afora, dhladh, th diadoxh katastash meta thn paraithsh toy k. Synadinoy.

PAPPA: H synenteyjh toy k. G. Papantwnioy sthn ``Kyriakatikh Eleyqerotypia'' dromologhse mia fhmologia anasxhmatismoy. Qa hqela na rwthsw dyo pragmata: Ean yparxei qema anasxhmatismoy kai an oxi, qa hqela na sxoliasete to oti h sygkekrimenh dhlwsh den dhmioyrgei ena epiprosqeto klima abebaiothtas sthn agora, ths opoias to klima etsi ki alliws einai kako;

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, antiqetws, o k. Papantwnioy exei epitelesei shmantiko ergo, exei dieqnws anagnwristei h dikh toy symbolh sthn proodo poy ekane h ellhnikh oikonomia ta teleytaia xronia. Synexizei na askei ta kaqhkonta toy, sto plaisio ths kybernhtikhs politikhs. Ayto deixnei oti exoyme ejasfalisei synqhkes oikonomikhs kai politikhs staqerothtas, pragma poy einai aparaithto gia thn eyodwsh twn prospaqeiwn mas kai ston oikonomiko tomea. Qema anasxhmatismoy den yfistatai. Asfalws, ean eseis ta epomena treishmisi xronia grafete kaqe bdomada gia epikeimeno anasxhmatismo, einai bebaio oti qa exete mia epityxia. Sas lew, omws, oti qema anasxhmatismoy den yfistatai.

PAPPA: Otan o epikefalhs toy oikonomikoy epiteleioy ths kybernhshs bgainei kai leei oti qelei na fygei giati ekleise ekei enan kyklo, den yfistatai qema abebaiothtas sthn agora;

REPPAS: O k. Papantwnioy yperaspizetai thn paroysia toy kai th drasthriothta poy aneptyje ws ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai kanei para poly kala. Gnwrizete oti h entajh ths xwras sthn ONE htan -mporei na pei kaneis- mia prospaqeia, h opoia eyodwqhke meta apo kopo kai qysia toy ellhnikoy laoy. Bebaiws, kai h kybernhsh katebale, se ayth thn kateyqynsh, megalh prospaqeia epi arketa xronia. Mporei na pei kaneis oti ekleise enas kyklos. Molis kleinei enas kyklos, anoigei enas allos. Exoyme mprosta mas megales proklhseis gia mia pio aneptygmenh ellhnikh oikonomia, gia taxeis ryqmoys anaptyjhs, gia beltiwsh toy epipedoy ths kaqhmerinhs zwhs twn politwn. Se ola ayta o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias qa exei th dikh toy shmantikh, kaqoristikh symbolh.

PAPPA: Apo allo posto;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ola ayta.

GARGALAKOS: Exei o Prwqypoyrgos sta xeria toy kapoia dhmoskophsh mesa apo thn opoia na apotypwnetai h epirroh toy ypo ekkolach kommatos Abramopoyloy sto eklogiko swma;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh gnwrizei ayta poy gnwrizete ki eseis. Metrhseis gia diafora qemata ginontai apo polloys, se polles periptwseis. Den exei opoiadhpote anameijh se ayto h kybernhsh. Oson afora to qema poy qetete -epi ths oysias, pleon, kanw sxolio twra- den exoyme na prosqesoyme tipota allo. Allwste, exoyme milhsei gia thn apostash anamesa sth qewria kai thn prajh. Gnwrizete pws einai poly diaforetiko na miloyme gia ena ideato komma h gia ena komma, me sygkekrimeno programma, to opoio brisketai sto pedio ths antiparaqeshs kai twn rhjewn, ena komma, dhladh, poy leitoyrgei. Ayth h diafora sthn politikh einai shmantikh, thn opoia prepei ki emeis na epishmanoyme.

KARGOYDH: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia th dhmosia parembash toy Amerikanoy presbh sto ejoplistiko programma.

REPPAS: Qewroyme oti to na emfanizetai enas diplwmaths me tropo tetoio, san na ypodeiknyei tis epiloges se mia kybernhsh, ayto peran toy oti odhgei se polla problhmata kai mporei na dhmioyrghsei parejhghsh, mporei na pei kaneis oti einai dysaresto kai gi` ayto apodokimazoyme mia tetoia stash. H ellhnikh kybernhsh kanei tis epiloges ths me gnwmona to eqniko symferon, to symferon ths Eqnikhs Amynas kai etsi qa synexisoyme na pairnoyme tis apofaseis mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh syzhta, ektos apo to Eurofighter , na parei aeroplana kai apo alles xwres;

REPPAS: Me bash apofash poy exei labei to KYSEA, h hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas brisketai sto stadio twn diapragmateysewn me thn koinoprajia poy paragei ayto to maxhtiko aeroskafos. Oi diapragmateyseis den exoyn oloklhrwqei. Pisteyoyme oti qa oloklhrwqoyn syntoma kai qa fqasoyme sta kalytera dynata apotelesmata, se oloys toys tomeis kai ston oikonomiko tomea.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai alhqeia oti exei kapoia sxesh o adelfos toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to Eurofighter;

REPPAS: H antidrash twn synadelfwn sas kai h dikh moy ayqormhth antidrash, etsi opws ekfrazetai sto proswpo moy, apotelei thn kalyterh apanthsh. Kamia apolytws sxesh. Gnwrizete oti yparxoyn xwres ths Eyrwphs poy symmetexoyn se ayth thn koinoprajia. H Ellada apofasise na entaxqei se ayto to programma kai na ginei paragwgos xwra, meta apo liga xronia, toy sygkekrimenoy maxhtikoy aeroskafoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O armodios ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias, giati den phge sthn khdeia toy Sfhnia;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se sxetikh erwthsh tis prohgoymenes hmeres. H kybernhsh den eixe epishmh ekproswphsh. Kaqenas htan eleyqeros na symmetasxei. O k. Papoytshs epeleje na mhn einai parwn. Ayto den einai parejhghsimo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yphrxe logos;

REPPAS: Den yphrxe kanenas logos, opws den yphrxe kai kanenas idiaiteros logos na einai parwn sthn khdeia. Den einai qema gia ejagwgh politikwn symperasmatwn kai parakalw mh dinete kamia synexeia se ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Olos o efoplistikos kosmos kai oloi oi prohgoymenoi ypoyrgoi Emporikhs Naytilias phgan.

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Opoios hqele mporoyse na einai parwn. Den yphrje qema epishmhs ekproswphshs.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia tis dhlwseis toy k. Matqia, o opoios milhse gia elleimma ths aytonomias ths Dikaiosynhs kai oti h anaqewrhsh odhgei se ypobaqmish toy roloy ths Dikaiosynhs.

REPPAS: H anejarthsia ths Dikaiosynhs einai katoxyrwmenh kai qwrakismenh. H dikastikh Arxh, sto xwro twn armodiothtwn ths, einai apolytws kyriarxh, opws allwste kaqe Arxh, sto xwro twn dikwn ths leitoyrgiwn, einai apolytws kyriarxh. Den tiqetai opoiodhpote qema meiwshs ths aytonomias ths Dikaiosynhs sto plaisio twn diatajewn poy epanadiatypwnontai kata th diadikasia anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos. Antiqetws, h dikastikh ejoysia einai aytonomh, einai apolytws sebasth, kaqws askei ta kaqhkonta ths.

SOYRMELIDHS: Oson afora thn Olympiada, den dhmioyrgeitai gia thn kybernhsh ena qema me thn paraithsh Synadinoy;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h symbolh toy k. Synadinoy htan poly qetikh sthn proetoimasia ths xwras mas.

SOYRMELIDHS: Tote giati paraithqhke;

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati poy gnwrizei o idios. Ayto poy gnwrizoyme oloi, einai ayto poy leei o k. Synadinos. Oti eixe proswpikoys logoys na apoxwrhsei apo ayth th qesh kai menoyme se ayto.

GARGALAKOS: Sth synenteyjh poy edwse o k. Matqias sta "NEA", afhnei na diafanei mia pikria, epeidh kaqorizetai orio tetraetias gia toys proedroys twn Anwtatwn Dikasthriwn, enw o idios den exei symplhrwsei ta xronia poy apaitoyntai. Mhpws, h olh epiqesh, telos pantwn h h diarrhjh twn sxesewn toy me thn kybernhsh exei na kanei kai me ayth thn pikria; Kai mhpws h Kybernhsh mporei na th diorqwsei ayth thn pikria;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den tiqetai qema diarrhjhs sxesewn toy Proedroy toy Areioy Pagoy me thn kybernhsh h diarrhjhs sxesewn ths kybernhshs me thn hgesia toy Areioy Pagoy. Oi apoceis toy Proedroy toy Areioy Pagoy einai apolyta sebastes, tis akoyme me poly prosoxh. Den skeftomaste, den dianooymaste oti mporei o Proedros toy Areioy Pagoy na diatypwnei qeseis, ormwmenos apo proswpika h idiotelh kinhtra. Kati tetoio den mporei na symbainei. Den symbainei kati tetoio.

GARGALAKOS: Dhladh, qa meinei to orio twn tessarwn etwn, poy syzhteitai twra sto plaisio ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos einai se ejelijh. Qa epanarxisei amesws meta tis eortes sthn Olomeleia ths Boylhs. Gi` ayto qa apofasisoyn oi idioi oi boyleytes, oi opoioi einai aytoi poy nomoqetoyn kai apofasizoyn gia tis diatajeis toy ypo anaqewrhsh Syntagmatos kai kaneis allos.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean exei yparjei thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn ka Aggelopoyloy gia to qema ths Paraithshs.

REPPAS: Exoyn mesolabhsei liges wres apo thn ypobolh ayths ths paraithshs kai ej oswn gnwrizw den egine tetoia epikoinwnia. Isws ginei argotera. Opws jerete, o Prwqypoyrgos, to prwi dexqhke ton Proedro ths Boylgarias, poy episkeptetai th xwra mas. Mporw na sas pw, omws, oti yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Synadino, meta thn ypobolh ths paraithshs toy.

ALEJAKH: Eipate oti synexizontai oi diapragmateyseis gia ta Eurofighter, alla exoyme th dhlwsh toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas, o opoios eipe oti se deka hmeres ypografoyme th symbash.

REPPAS: Ayto to gnwrizei o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas, o opoios hgeitai twn diapragmateysewn, ek meroys ths kybernhshs kai ara mporei na exei ypoch toy enan pio sygkekrimeno xroniko orizonta oloklhrwshs twn diapragmateysewn. An einai oktw, deka h dwdeka hmeres, einai kati poy den to gnwrizw. Qa einai epipolaio kai prowro na to prosdiorisw me tetoia akribeia. Kai en pash periptwsei, an to pw mporei na ypostw kai th dysmenh kritikh sas.

ALEJAKH: Prokeitai na perasei apo th Boylh h aplws qa ypografei;

REPPAS: O ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas exei pei oti meta thn ypografh ths symbashs, to logo qa exei h Boylh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Diabasa, xqes, oti h ERT qa metakomisei se ena oikopedo, se ena ktirio sto Braxati h sto Mpraxami kai qa to dwsei ayto to ktirio se kapoia etairia;

REPPAS: H ERT exei to ktirio, sto opoio shmera leitoyrgei. Kata kairoys, exoyn diatypwqei diafores apoceis gia thn ajiopoihsh enos oikopedikoy xwroy poy exei se mia allh perioxh kai prosferetai gia thn anegersh enos neoy ktirioy. Ta teleytaia xronia -kai ayto egine gia prwth fora kai prepei na to poyme- h ERT aneqese se symboylo na melethsei ton tropo me ton opoio h perioysia ths mporei na ajiopoihqei. Sto plaisio aytwn twn protasewn diatypwqhke kai ayth h skech. Den exoyme kati neotero. Den eimaste, dhladh, stis paramones lhchs mias apofashs, ayth thn wra. Alla, einai mia skech h opoia, kata kairoys, epanerxetai, epeidh exei diatypwqei sto plaisio ayths ths meleths gia thn ajiopoihsh twn perioysiakwn stoixeiwn ths ERT.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kai mia allh erwthsh. H kybernhsh exei kaqorisei poies einai oi giortes misoys kai poies einai oi giortes mnhmhs; Giati akoysa, shmera, ton k. Andreoylako se mia sxetikh parathrhsh poy toy egine se thleoptikh ekpomph, na leei oti kai perysi phge kai malista h N.D. toy plhrwse to stefani poy kateqese. Epomenws, einai anakribes ayto poy lete oti, gia prwth fora h N.D. epishmws symmetexei.

REPPAS: Mporoyme na poyme, meta apo th dieykrinish poy doqhke, oti h N.D. plhrwnei kaqe xrono! H istoria einai gnwsth. Gnwrizoyme oloi se poies periptwseis Ellhnes strafhkan enantion Ellhnwn. Kai ayto einai kati, to opoio qa prepei na to antimetwpisoyme twra apo thn apostash toy xronoy, me diaqesh na epoylwsoyme ta traymata mias emfylias diamaxhs poy ekdhlwqhke se diafores stigmes, se diafores perioxes.

KARGOYDH: Sth synanthsh toy k. Kostoynitsa me ton k. Pasxalidh, o ypoyrgos Makedonias-Qrakhs metefere kapoio mhnyma toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: Sas anakoinwnw, me thn eykairia, oti ekkremei episkech sthn Ellada toy Proedroy Kostoynitsa, meta apo prosklhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Sto plaisio ayths ths episkechs, qa syzhthqoyn ola ta qemata poy aforoyn tis dimereis sxeseis, alla kai eyrytera ta problhmata ths perioxhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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