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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 30 Noembrioy 2000

TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI

KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Se ligh wra, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph sthn kanonikh ths synqesh, me antikeimeno syzhthshs thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Opws gnwrizete, kata kairoys, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kanei mia politikh ektimhsh ths poreias ths kybernhshs. Me ayto ton tropo qa syzhthsei kai shmera.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Kata thn ektimhsh ths kybernhshs, yparxoyn politikes proektaseis, me aformh th xqesinh aytoxeiria toy Pantelh Sfhnia;

REPPAS: Exoyme ena dramatiko gegonos. To proswpo ayto -poy yphrje stoxos, polles fores, sto plaisio mias dhmosias syzhthshs h opoia ekane ton kyklo ths- einai o tragikos prwtagwnisths. Qewroyme pws, me aformh ayto to tragiko gegonos, den prepei na proklhqei enas neos kyklos dhmosias syzhthshs me tropo epifaneiako kai aneyqyno. Ayto qa isodynamoyse me tymbwryxia. Ta politika zhthmata antimetwpizontai sto plaisio twn leitoyrgiwn ths Boylhs. H Asfaleia Attikhs exei analabei thn proanakrish. Qa epilhfqoyn oi armodies Arxes ths xwras mas -shmera h Astynomia, ayrio h Dikaiosynh- prokeimenoy na aposafhnistoyn oi synqhkes, katw apo tis opoies elabe xwra ayto to tragiko symban. Gnwrizete oti sth zwh twn anqrwpwn yparxei kai h siwph. Allote einai xrhsimh, kapote einai epibeblhmenh. Qa elega, oti se ayth thn periptwsh eimaste twra kai kalo qa einai na eimaste oloi pio sygkrathmenoi, pio prosektikoi, askwntas, bebaiws, ta kaqhkonta mas me akraia eyqynh se tetoies periptwseis.

MIXAHL: Symmerizeste thn ektimhsh poy shmera yparxei se polla reportaz kai sxolia, oti synebale kai ena klima poy dhmioyrghsan ta MME sto na proxwrhsei se ayth thn aponenohmenh prajh;

REPPAS: Eipa kai epanalambanw, oti qa isodynamoyse me tymbwryxia h proklhsh mias neas syzhthshs sth dhmosia sfaira, me kentriko proswpo ayton poy htan kai o prwtagwnisths, sto plaisio prohgoymenwn syzhthsewn. Kai syxna egine stoxos aytos o prwtagwnisths. Oi leitoyrgoi twn MME askeite mia ejoysia h opoia einai krisimo megeqos gia th leitoyrgia ths koinwnias mas. Diaxeirizeste ena meizon agaqo, opws einai h enhmerwsh twn politwn. Pisteyw oti -opws kai alloi paragontes, sto diko toy tomea o kaqenas- ayto to kanete pantote me epignwsh ths sobarothtas kai me synaisqhsh toy xreoys sas.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean mporeite na sxoliasete tis dhlwseis toy k. Agoydhmoy, o opoios htan synergaths toy Sfhnia, poy eipe oti "bohqhsame to PASOK gia tis ekloges kai twra mas egkateleican kai h etairia akoloyqei mia poreia arnhtikh".

REPPAS: H kalyterh apanthsh sthn erwthsh sas einai to tmhma ths apanthshs poy edwsa sthn prwth erwthsh poy diatypwqhke: Oti h siwph kapoies stigmes einai epibeblhmenh. Qa elega pws einai epibeblhmenh, idiaiterws gia ekeinoys poy ws anemomyloi, me afethria pantote ta stena proswpika oikonomika symferonta toys, paroysiazontai ektojeyontas mydroys enantion diaforetikwn stoxwn kaqe fora, me sygkekrimenh kai profanh skopimothta. Prepei na eimaste pio metrhmenoi, pio prosektikoi. As deijoyme oti exoyme synaisqhsh ths eyqynhs poy exei o kaqenas, analogws twn armodiothtwn toy kai epishs as deijoyme pws diaqetoyme sobarothta, otan xeirizomaste tetoies krisimes ypoqeseis.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na sxoliasete epimones plhrofories, proerxomenes apo tis HPA, opoy o Genikos Grammateas twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn etoimazetai, me thn kainoyrgia ekqesh poy qa kanei twra, na dwsei mia periorismenh anagnwrish sto ceydokratos toy Ntenktas kai etsi na dieykolynei thn toyrkikh pleyra, meta tis teleytaies ejelijeis kai malista na kanei kai jexwristes diaboyleyseis me ton Ntenktas, oson afora to flegon qema ths Oyfikyp sthn Kypro. Pws qa antimetwpisei ena tetoio endexomeno h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti stis 15 Dekembrioy prokeitai na ekdoqei to chfisma, to opoio apotelei kai thn apofash toy OHE, prokeimenoy na ananewqei h qhteia ths eirhneytikhs dynamhs sthn Kypro. O k. Nte Soto syzhthse me ton Ellhna ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai to sygkekrimeno qema. H qesh ths kybernhshs mas einai safhs. Den xreiazetai na perilhfqei sto chfisma mia analogh prosqhkh, h opoia qa dinei thn eyxereia stoys Toyrkokyprioys kai aytoys poy dhlwnoyn oti toys ekproswpoyn, na exoyn mia apeyqeias epikoinwnia kai synennohsh gia analoga qemata me thn eirhneytikh dynamh. Exoyme katasthsei safh th qesh mas. Pisteyoyme oti o G.G. toy OHE -poy endiaferetai gia thn proodo twn prospaqeiwn poy ginontai gia thn antimetwpish toy kypriakoy qematos, poy endiaferetai na ginoyn oi diapragmateyseis ton erxomeno Ianoyario- afoy akoysei tis apoceis olwn twn pleyrwn, qa tis staqmisei kai qa katalhjei se mia qesh. Pisteyoyme oti h qesh ayth qa einai symfwnh me tis qeseis poy mexri twra exei yioqethsei o OHE gia to Kypriako afenos kai afeteroy qa einai mia qesh tetoia, h opoia qa apotelei thn kalyterh eisagwgh sthn enarjh toy epomenoy gyroy twn synomiliwn, poy eyxomaste epiteloys na stefqoyn apo epityxia, kati poy mexri twra den exei ginei se prohgoymenoys gyroys.

KALARITHS: O megalos ariqmos boyleytwn poy kateqesan erwthsh gia to qema ths Olympiakhs, problhmatizei kaqoloy thn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H askhsh koinoboyleytikoy dikaiwmatos den antistrateyetai thn prospaqeia ths kybernhshs na ferei se peras to ergo poy ths aneqese o ellhnikos laos. Allwste, gia to sygkekrimeno qema, oi plhrofories poy zhtoyn oi boyleytes qa doqoyn, an den exoyn doqei, kai malista se idiaitera ikanopoihtiko baqmo. Gnwrizete oti, edw kai arketoys mhnes o armodios ypoyrgos exei aposafhnisei thn politikh ths kybernhshs gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma. H antlhsh idiwtikwn kefalaiwn gia thn O.A. apotelei monodromo. Den yparxei allh epilogh, prokeimenoy na epibiwsei kai na anaptyxqei h O.A. Bebaiws, prepei na proxwrhsoyme sthn paraxwrhsh ths pleiochfias ths O.A., giati den prokaleitai endiaferon se opoiondhpote mporei na proselqei se ayth th diagwnistikh diadikasia, an den paraxwreitai h pleiochfia toy kefalaioy ths O.A., h dioikhsh dhladh ths etairias.

Gnwrizete poly kala -kai ayto exei, epishs, tonistei- oti h politikh ayth den einai se baros twn symferontwn twn ergazomenwn. Antiqetws, h politikh ayth synodeyetai apo metra ta opoia diasfalizoyn ta ergasiaka kai asfalistika dikaiwmata twn apasxoloymenwn sthn O.A., eite mesw enos programmatos metatajewn, eite kai endexomenws mesw enos programmatos eqeloysias ejodoy apo thn yphresia. Ayto to opoio prepei na einai safes einai toyto: H O.A., opws oloi oi Organismoi, qa prepei na prosferoyn poiotikes yphresies ychloy epipedoy stoys polites kai den qa prepei me th leitoyrgia toys na antistrateyontai to dhmosio symferon. Na swreyoyn, dhladh, elleimmata, ta opoia kaloyntai oi polites -kai aytoi akomh poy den xrhsimopoioyn thn O.A.- na ta antimetwpisoyn, syneisferontas ston kratiko proypologismo. Ara, loipon, to symferon toy ellhnikoy Dhmosioy, toy koinwnikoy synoloy, twn ergazomenwn kai to symferon ths O.A. ws epixeirhshs, briskontai sthn idia kateyqynsh, sympiptoyn. Den antistrateyetai to ena to allo. Ypo ayto to prisma antimetwpizei h kybernhsh to sygkekrimeno zhthma kai sto plaisio ayths ths politikhs topoqeteitai.

ALEJAKH: Eipate oti o armodios ypoyrgos exei aposafhnisei, edw kai arketo diasthma, thn politikh poy qa akoloyqhqei sthn O.A. kai h kybernhsh exei jekaqarisei oti qa diasfalistoyn ta symferonta twn ergazomenwn. Afoy ayto exei ginei edw kai arketo diasthma, giati tote 61 boyleytes kataqetoyn ayth thn erwthsh; Den exoyn katanohsei ayta poy exei aposafhnisei o armodios ypoyrgos; Exoyn amfibolies an qa diasfalistoyn ta symferonta;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den qa perimenete apo mena apanthsh ek meroys twn synadelfwn poy exoyn kataqesei thn erwthsh. Apeyqynqeite stoys idioys. Ayto to opoio pisteyw einai toyto: Oi synadelfoi qetoyn ena shmantiko zhthma, epeidh akribws eimaste sth xronikh stigmh poy oi apofaseis prepei na ginoyn prajh, afoy toys epomenoys mhnes -mallon ton erxomeno Febroyario- qa ginei ayth h diagwnistikh diadikasia. Oi synadelfoi qeloyn ayto to qema na syzhthqei sth Boylh, me ayto ton epishmo tropo, wste ekei na akoystei h qesh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy me kaqe leptomereia. Kai ayto einai, oxi aplws qemito, alla -qa elega- oti isws einai kai epibeblhmeno.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei kapoio sxolio, sxetika me thn ypoxwrhsh poy anagkasthke na kanei o eishghths ths pleiochfias k. Benizelos, gia thn anaqewrhsh toy arqroy 24, dedomenoy oti oxi mono o k. Benizelos me thn idiothta toy genikoy eishghth, alla kai plhqwra ypoyrgwn, yperaspisthkan ayth th ``dasoktono'', kata thn apoch koinwnikwn forewn, diatajh.

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, den miloyme gia ypoxwrhsh. Den yfistatai kati tetoio. Gnwrizete oti h syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh diatajewn toy Syntagmatos einai mia syzhthsh, h opoia prepei na odhgei se synqesh kai ei to dynaton se synainesh. H ryqmish, h opoia mexri twra exei, kat arxhn, perilhfqei sto sxedio gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, einai ryqmish poy asfalws prostateyei to dasiko ployto ths xwras. Den symfwnw me to xarakthrismo sas oti einai ``dasoktonos'' h diatajh ayth. Pisteyoyme oti ta meizona agaqa, ta opoia qa prepei na antimetwpisei to Syntagma mesa apo ena sygkerasmo, einai afenos h prostasia toy dasikoy periballontos kai ayto epitygxanetai kai afeteroy, h anaptyjh ths xwras, me tropo omws poy sebetai to periballon. Kai ayto, epishs, epitygxanetai. H telikh diatypwsh, asfalws -to eipame allwste ayto apo thn arxh, gia kaqe qema, alla kai gia to sygkekrimeno- qa apotelesei kai qa synexizei na apotelei antikeimeno syzhthshs, mexri na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia ths anaqewrhshs. Dhlwsame pws eimaste etoimoi na akoysoyme apoceis gia ola ta qemata. Kata th diadikasia ths diatypwshs aytwn twn apocewn symmetexoyme ki emeis, prokeimenoy oi telikes diatypwseis na briskoyn symfwnes, an einai dynaton, oles tis politikes dynameis, poy sto plaisio ayths ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias symmetexoyn sthn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Kai na ikanopoihsoyn kai oloys ekeinoys toys foreis poy diatypwnoyn -qa moy epitrecete na pw me yperbolikh kai adikaiologhth isws kaxypocia- kapoioys foboys gia tis synepeies poy mporei na exei h symperilhch mias tetoias diatajhs sto keimeno toy neoy Syntagmatos.

FILHS: Poia diadikasia problepetai na akoloyqhqei apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs, toy kybernwntos kommatos, prokeimenoy na yparjei ayth, opws onomazetai, h nea synainetikh diatypwsh.

REPPAS: Thn epomenh periodo prokeitai na ginei syzhthsh sth Boylh, sthn Olomeleia pleon, gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Ekei qa diatypwqoyn kai pali apo thn arxh, gia ola ta qemata, oi apoceis twn diaforwn kommatwn, twn boyleytwn. Pisteyw oti sto plaisio ths diatypwshs aytwn twn apocewn qa prokycei h kalyterh diatypwsh, dhladh h kalyterh lysh, h opoia qa exei ayth th stoxeysh sthn opoia, allwste, eimaste oloi symfwnoi.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph qa syzhthqoyn qemata poy aforoyn to Xrhmatisthrio kai th Naytilia.

REPPAS: Opws synhqizetai se aytes tis periptwseis, qa ginei kat arxhn, opws sas eipa, mia episkophsh ths poreias toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Qa syzhthqoyn ola ta qemata ths sygkyrias. H Kybernhtikh Epitroph einai ena organo to opoio syzhta ta qemata, sxediazei thn poreia ths kybernhshs, afoy ektima thn mexri twra poreia ths, gia thn epomenh periodo. Einai mia genikh politikh syzhthsh gia ola ta qemata. H atzenta einai anoikth stis synedriaseis ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs.

Qa hqela prin oloklhrwsoyme thn enhmerwsh na anaferqw se dyo qemata:

To ena qema afora dyo Synedria poy organwnontai sthn Aqhna. To ena Synedrio organwnetai apo to Idryma toy Panepisthmioy Prinston -einai mia mh kybernhtikh organwsh- sto opoio symmetexoyn ekproswpoi apo tis kybernhseis twn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs. Qema toy Synedrioy einai h leitoyrgia, h stash, h synergasia, h epikoinwnia twn Albanwn poy zoyn sthn Albania kai oswn Albanwn zoyn se alla geitonika krath. Epeidh exei dhmioyrghqei h entypwsh oti ayto to Synedrio organwnetai me prwtoboylia dynamewn ths Albanias kai me stoxo thn pragmatopoihsh enos eqnikistikoy megaloideatikoy sxedioy gia th dhmioyrgia ths ``Megalhs Albanias'', prepei na sas pw oti symbainei to entelws antiqeto. To Synedrio ayto apotelei mia symbolh sth staqerothta sthn perioxh, sthn ananewsh twn desmwn empistosynhs kai synergasias metajy twn kratwn kai twn kybernhsewn sthn perioxh gia th diathrhsh toy shmerinoy kaqestwtos synorwn sth Notioanatolikh Eyrwph. Prokeitai gia th deyterh synanthsh. H prwth eixe ginei sth Boydapesth, ton perasmeno Aprilio. Se ayth qa einai parontes ek meroys toy ellhnikoy kratoys oi Ellhnes presbeis stis diafores balkanikes xwres. Qa einai o k. Koysnef, qa einai ws ekproswpos toy G.G. toy OHE o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Slobakias. Antilambaneste pws exei enan teleiws diaforetiko xarakthra to Synedrio ayto. Hqela na to tonisw, gia na mh dhmioyrgoyntai parejhghseis.

To deytero Synedrio poy ginetai shmera kai ayrio, dhladh thn idia xronikh periodo -sto opoio symmetexoyn politikoi, epixeirhmaties, akadhmaikoi- exei thn onomasia Rad Corporation kai afora th synergasia gia th staqerothta sth Notianatolikh Eyrwph. Se ayto qa exoyn th dynatothta na milhsoyn o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy kai alloi paragontes ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

Einai dyo synedria, ta opoia ginontai parallhlws, den exei sxesh to ena me to allo. Alla, kai me ta dyo, mporei na pei kaneis oti apodeiknyetai pws h xwra mas einai enas topos, poy mporei na filojenei tetoies megales dieqneis prwtoboylies. Einai enas topos opoy ginontai tetoies syzhthseis, poy exoyn stoxo -me dedomenh kai thn politikh poy akoloyqei h xwra mas gia thn perioxh- na symballoyn sth diathrhsh ths staqerothtas sthn perioxh.

To deytero qema afora thn anhsyxia poy teinei na dhmioyrghqei apo th diapistwsh pws mia sympolitissa mas, sthn perioxh ths Hpeiroy, pasxei apo sygkekrimenh noso kai sygkekrimena apo to syndromo Croejfeld Jacobs. Prepei na sas pw oti ayth einai mia nosos, h opoia parathreitai se anqrwpoys. Eixame kai sto parelqon analoga kroysmata. Den prepei, omws, na dinetai h entypwsh pws ekdhlwqhke kroysma spoggwdoys egkefalopaqeias se booeidh sthn Hpeiro. Den exei diapistwqei, mexri twra toylaxiston, tetoio kroysma se booeidh sthn patrida mas. H nosos apo thn opoia pasxei h sygkekrimenh gynaika kai poy einai h nosos Croejfeld Jacobs, exei ekdhlwqei kai alles fores -kai malista sto prosfato parelqon- sthn patrida mas. Ofeiletai, epanalambanw, se alloys paragontes kai oxi sth spoggwdh egkefalopaqeia twn booeidwn, poy otan prosballei anqrwpo exei thn onomasia Variant Croejfeld Jacobs. Ayto to aposafhnizw gia na mhn prokaleitai xwris logo anhsyxia.

KARGOYDH: Qelw dyo-treis dieykriniseis gia ta teleytaia poy eipate. To Panepisthmio Prinston den einai mh kybernhtikh organwsh.

REPPAS: Einai ena Idryma.

KARGOYDH: Einai Idryma;

REPPAS: Einai kybernhtikos organismos;

KARGOYDH: Nai, einai Idryma, alla den einai mh kybernhtikh organwsh. Giati yparxei mia asafeia ws pros tis organwtries@ To deytero Synedrio, apo poion diorganwnetai;

REPPAS: To deytero synedrio einai mia synergasia, h opoia ginetai kata takta diasthmata, me ayto to onoma kai se ayth symmetexei ws organwths kai to Idryma Kokkalh, to opoio leitoyrgei sto Xarbarnt twn HPA.

GIANNISHS: Mia dieykrinish gia ton k. Meta. O k. Meta qa einai sto Synedrio sto Kaboyri;

REPPAS: Exoyn prosklhqei kai qa einai parontes kai o k. Meta kai o k. Milo, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Albanias. Opws qa einai parontes se aytes tis syzhthseis kai ekproswpoi twn kybernhsewn twn allwn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs.

GIANNISHS: O k. Papandreoy paraqetei mia dejiwsh, ap` o,ti maqame.

REPPAS: O k. Papandreoy qa einai parwn sth dejiwsh ayrio to apogeyma, gyrw stis 7.30.

Sas eyxaristw.

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