Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-11-28

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 28 Noembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Xqes kai shmera, sto plaisio leitoyrgias ths Syntonistikhs Epitrophs Probolhs Eqnikwn Qematwn (SEPEQ) kai sto plaisio ths synergasias Elladas- Kyproy gia thn probolh twn eqnikwn qematwn, filojenoyme sthn Aqhna thn taktikh synanthsh twn Proistamenwn twn Grafeiwn Typoy twn dyo kratwn. Htan mazi mas xqes o k. Papapetroy, kybernhtikos ekproswpos ths Kyproy kai o k. Basileioy epikefalhs ths Diapragmateytikhs Omadas poy syzhta thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E. Einai mia shmantikh prwtoboylia poy analambanei to Ypoyrgeio mas. Oi Proistamenoi twn Grafeiwn Typoy Ejwterikoy enhmerwnontai gia ta eqnika qemata poy apasxoloyn ta dyo krath, apo Ypoyrgoys kai alloys shmantikoys paragontes, oi opoioi exoyn sxetikh armodiothta. Etsi, katorqwnoyme na exoyme ena sxediasmo gia tis prwtoboylies poy qa prepei na analaboyn, thn epomenh periodo, ta Grafeia Typoy twn dyo kratwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Symfwna me plhrofories, xqes, sth synedriash toy E.G. anaferqhke oti yparxei mia deyterh epistolh toy Filandoy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Liponen pros ton k. Etsebit. Malista, oi idies plhrofories miloyn oti prokeitai gia mia arnhtikh gia thn Ellada epistolh. Qelw na sas rwthsw ean eiste gnwsths, gia to an yparxei h den yparxei mia tetoia epistolh.

REPPAS: Apo thn ereyna poy exoyme kanei den prokyptei h yparjh tetoias epistolhs. Den gnwrizei h kybernhsh na exei stalei allh epistolh toy Filandoy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Toyrkias me periexomeno synafes me ayto ths prwths epistolhs, thn opoia gnwrizete. Den prokyptei, loipon, h yparjh deyterhs epistolhs.

KARELIAS: Den prokyptei, eipate; Pws o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, tote, to anefere;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw to periexomeno ths synedriashs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Gnwrizw oti yphrje ena dhmosieyma, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, thn Paraskeyh sygkekrimena, se mia efhmerida, h opoia isws edwse se kapoioys thn aformh na skefqoyn oti yparxei deyterh epistolh, na to laboyn ayto ws dedomeno kai na kanoyn analoges syzhthseis me ayth thn aformh. Sas eipa oti me bash ayto to dhmosieyma kaname ereyna kai den prokyptei, ej oswn gnwrizoyme, na exei stalei allh epistolh toy k. Liponen, peran ths prwths.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Shmera, diabazw sthn efhmerida ``ELEYQEROS TYPOS'' -kai yparxoyn kai sxediagrammata- gia paraxwrhsh ellhnikoy edafoys sthn Albania. Exete na prosqesete kati parapanw se ayta ta stoixeia.

REPPAS: Den prokeitai gia nea dieyqethsh twn synorwn. Gnwrizete oti gia arketa xronia h Meikth Meqoriakh Epitroph, me ekproswpoys kai twn dyo kratwn asxoleitai me to qema ths topoqethshs twn pyramidwn, poy apoteloyn kai th shmansh ths meqorioy. To 1996, logw ths eswterikhs katastashs sto geitoniko kratos, ayth h diadikasia diekoph kai arxise pali to 1999. Den prokyptei opoiadhpote allagh, oson afora th meqorio. Prepei na sas pw oti me thn texnikh tekmhriwsh, poy egine apo eidikoys, prokyptei oti se mia orismenh perioxh, se ena orismeno shmeio, opoy pantote yphrxe mia trigwnikh esoxh pros thn ellhnikh pleyra, mia pyramida poy briskotan sth koryfh aytoy toy trigwnoy eixe katastrafei. Epixeirhqhke apo kapoioys h eyqygrammish ths meqorioy, pragma to opoio den htan swsto. Yparxei mia apokatastash, loipon, sto shmeio akribws ekeino twn synorwn, stis qeseis poy pantote yphrxan. To meqoriako fylakio brisketai entos ths ellhnikhs epikrateias. Ara, den dikaiologeitai olh ayth h kritikh poy askeitai gia to sygkekrimeno qema, gia to opoio allwste qa ginei syzhthsh shmera sth Boylh, me aformh sxetikh erwthsh synadelfoy apo th N.D., sthn opoia qa apanthsei o yfypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas. Ola ayta ta texnika stoixeia, ta opoia den xreiazetai na anaferw twra edw, qa anaferqoyn me kaqe leptomereia sth Boylh apo to synadelfo, sto plaisio ths apogeymatinhs synedriashs. Apla, sas edwsa ena poly geniko politiko plaisio.

FILHS: O Oikoymenikos Patriarxhs, milwntas xqes sthn klhriko-laikh synajh sthn Kwnstantinoypolh eipe oti oi ajies toy Xristianismoy einai na mhn yparxei eqnikh Ekklhsia, alla mia eniaia Orqodojh Ekklhsia.

REPPAS: Qelete na sas pw poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs, gia to ean prepei na yparxei eqnikh Ekklhsia h mia eniaia Ekklhsia; Asfalws, den qa epimenete na mpoyme se enan tetoio dialogo. Sth syntetagmenh Politeia mas, leitoyrgei me sygkekrimenh organwtikh morfh h Ekklhsia ths Elladas. Kata ta alla, gnwrizete poly kala -allwste den einai h prwth fora poy kanoyme analogo sxolio- oti emeis sebomaste ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh, o opoios einai mia pragmatika megalh pneymatikh proswpikothta, me pagkosmia anagnwrish kai aktinobolia.

KARELIAS: O k. Karamanlhs kalese xqes thn kybernhsh na kanei symbibasmo me ton tews monarxh, gia to qema ths perioysias. Epishs, kalese thn Kybernhsh ean exei, opws eipe, na probalei ta nea ths epixeirhmata, wste na ta syzhthsei me thn Antipoliteysh kai na doqei h kalyterh lysh gia to ellhniko Dhmosio. Ti apantate;

REPPAS: H dikastikh diadikasia den exei oloklhrwqei. Epanalambanoyme oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa yperaspistei sqenara th qesh ths xwras mas mexri teloys. H aparadekth apaithsh toy tews basilia fanerwnei thn adiaforia kai thn perifronhsh toy pros ton ellhniko lao kai ta symferonta toy laoy. H qesh ths Neas Dhmokratias einai mia gkriza qesh. H N.D. qa prepei na topoqethqei me tropo apolyto kai diaygh apenanti sthn apaithsh toy tews apaithsh poy prepei na apodokimastei, oxi monon ws pros to periexomeno, alla kai ws pros th syllhch ths. Ws pros aythn kaq` aythn thn prwtoboylia poy eixe o tews, h opoia qa prepei na apodokimastei apo to synolo toy politikoy kosmoy ths xwras mas, giati katanta proklhsh. Prepei na sas pw oti o idios, sto plaisio twn protasewn toy, zhtei na toy epidikastei gia cyxikh odynh ena poso 50 ekatommyriwn draxmwn, to opoio @leei- qa prosferei stoys seismoplhktoys sympolites mas! O idios ektima se dekades disekatommyria draxmes thn ajia ths perioysias poy diekdikei kai thn idia wra zhtei kai 50 ekatommyria, prokeimenoy etsi na anakoyfisei toys pasxontes seismoplhktoys sympolites mas. Ayth h klimaka ajiwn, oson afora thn apaithsh yper toy eaytoy toy kai thn prosfora pros tritoys, ek meroys toy, einai dhlwtikh toy tropoy poy antilambanetai ta pragmata o tews. Qa prepei, loipon, na dhmioyrghsoyme ena arrages metwpo, apenanti se ayth thn ``epiqesh'' poy dexetai o ellhnikos laos, oi ellhnes polites, logw aytwn twn hqika, istorika kai politika aparadektwn apaithsewn toy tews.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ayta poy mas eipate kai poy yioqetoyme, pisteyw, oi perissoteroi, den ta eipan oi synhgoroi ths Elladas sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio, wste na mhn exoyme mia dysmenh apofash; Giati akoygontai swsta ayta poy lete.

REPPAS: Oi synhgoroi proebalan ta epixeirhmata mas. Synexizoyn na asxoloyntai me to qema ayto. Yparxoyn, asfalws, stoixeia ta opoia xrhsimopoihqhkan kai alla ta opoia qa teqoyn ypoch toy Dikasthrioy. Sas eipa oti den exei oloklhrwqei h diadikasia ayth. Qa anamenoyme loipon. Exoyme arketoys mhnes sth diaqesh mas. Se ayth th xronikh periodo qa ginoyn oloi oi endedeigmenoi xeirismoi, prokeimenoy na yperaspistoyme to symferon ths xwras mas.

KIRMPAKHS: H kybernhsh qa htan ikanopoihmenh, stis 4 Dekembrioy, sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn poy qa ginei gia to qema ths etairikhs sxeshs E.E.- Toyrkias, an mia apofash bgei kai einai paromoia me thn apofash ths Komision stis 8 Noembrioy, opws diatypwqhke tote gia thn etairikh sxesh;

REPPAS: H qesh mas einai jekaqarh, oson afora to keimeno ths etairikhs sxeshs. Sto keimeno ayto qa prepei na apotypwnetai to pneyma kai to gramma ths apofashs poy elhfqh sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Elsinki. Den diekdikoyme tipota parapanw, alla kai den dexomaste tipota ligotero. H apofash Koryfhs sto Elsinki orioqetei th sxesh ths E.E. me thn Toyrkia. Einai mia apofash staqmos. Pisteyoyme oti periexei, me kaqe leptomereia, oloys toys kanones poy prepei na diepoyn tis sxeseis twn xwrwn ths E.E. metajy toys. Aytoys toys kanones qa prepei h Toyrkia na toys apodexqei. Einai kai pros to diko ths symferon, giati h apofash toy Elsinki einai akribws o gewmetrikos topos, poy temnontai, synantwntai ta symferonta ths E.E. kai ths Toyrkias. Den einai mia monopleyrh apofash. Me ayth thn ennoia qewroyme adianohth thn arnhtikh stash paragontwn ths Toyrkias apenanti sto endexomeno na yioqethqei plhrws to keimeno ths apofashs toy Elsinki sto keimeno ths etairikhs sxeshs, to opoio syzhteitai ayth thn periodo.

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h kybernhsh epanalambanei oti den einai epispeydoysa sto qema ths etairikhs sxeshs. Ayto shmainei oti qa proballei kapoioy eidoys beto an to keimeno den thn briskei symfwnh;

REPPAS: Efoson to keimeno den einai se synexeia kai synepeia me thn apofash Koryfhs sto Elsinki, den prokeitai na ginei dekto. Giati h E.E., oxi mono gia logoys ajiopistias ths, alla kai gia praktikoys logoys, gia logoys leitoyrgias ths qa prepei mia apofash poy elabe peripoy prin apo ena xrono na thn epanalabei aytoysia, afoy syzhta, asxoleitai me to idio qema. Kata ta alla h qesh mas exei ginei safhs. Emeis den exoyme kanena logo na antidroyme sto endexomeno xronikhs metaqeshs ayths ths syzhthshs, sto sygkekrimeno zhthma. Se kaqe periptwsh pantws den einai dynato na prokycei keimeno etairikhs sxeshs to opoio qa einai se diastash h qa alloiwnei to periexomeno ths apofashs poy elhfqh sto Elsinki.

FILHS: Se diastash den einai oyte kan to shmerino keimeno, etsi kai alliws.

REPPAS: Den exw kamia antirrhsh se ayto. Alloi exoyn antirrhsh.

FILHS: Den syzhtame omws ayto. Syzhtame ean xwris thn protash ths Gallikhs Proedrias, dhladh to keimeno poy exei yioqethsei h Komision proxwrhsei ayto to keimeno.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ayto qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, stis 4 Dekembrioy. An ki ekei den prokycei symfwnia, mporei na apasxolhsei th Synodo Koryfhs sth Nikaia h na metateqei to qema pros syzhthsh sthn epomenh, sth Soyhdikh Proedria.

NIKOLTSIOY: Pali gia ton tews. Xqes, se synenteyjh toy eipe oti ``egw den plhrwnw tipota, giati oti otan kapoios xrwstaei, toy stelnoyn kapoia keimena, kapoia eggrafa kai toy zhtane na plhrwsei''. Aytos leei oti ta teleytaia xronia den exei erqei kanena eggrafo apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh poy na to zhtaei na plhrwsei kati. Apodeiknyetai kapoios ti xrwstaei; Dhladh xarakthristika: Exei A.F.M. o tews;

REPPAS: Ayto to qema fainetai oti qa mas apasxolhsei arketa thn epomenh periodo. Gia thn wra ajizei na sas anaferw ta ejhs stoixeia: H kybernhsh egkairws aneqese se dyo anagnwrismenoys oikoys na ektimhsoyn o enas thn ajia ths perioysias poy diekdikei o tews, o allos to ycos twn forwn poy ypoxreoytai na katabalei o tews sto ellhniko Dhmosio. O oikos Lambert Smith and Hampton ektimhse oti h agoraia ajia twn akinhtwn toy Tatoioy, toy Mon Repo kai ths ektashs sto Polydendri anerxetai peripoy sta 187 disekatommyria draxmes. O oikos Deloitte and Touche, o opoios ekane thn allh meleth katelhje sto symperasma oti o tews ofeilei sto ellhniko Dhmosio apo foroys poy den exei katabalei mexri twra ena poson ycoys 197 disekatommyriwn draxmwn. Prepei na pw oti, antiqeta me ta osa isxyrizetai, o ellhnikos laos kai h xwra ton exei plhrwsei ton tews. Ton exei plhrwsei se polla epipeda kai me diaforoys tropoys kai ayth thn wra kai pali xrwstaei sto ellhniko Dhmosio. Einai loipon ofeileths. Einai aytos o opoios xrwstaei. Kai, se teleytaia analysh, den toy xrwstaei tipota h xwra na thn odhgei se mia epanalhch syzhthsewn gia qemata poy den apoteloyn, me opoia ennoia kai an ta proseggisei kaneis, problhmata gia ton ellhniko lao. O idios ta kaqista problhmata, otan apaitei apo to ellhniko Dhmosio posa ycoys dekadwn disekatommyriwn draxmwn. O ellhnikos laos synexizei thn poreia toy se mia dyskolh periodo. H kybernhsh, o politikos kosmos, oloi oi polites, kataballoyme prospaqeia na jeperasoyme ta problhmata sthn kaqhmerinh zwh, poy einai orata gia diaforoys logoys. Apo ekei kai pera emeis prepei na synexisoyme aperispasta to ergo mas, afhnontas toys paragontes toy parelqontos na diekdikoyn @isws- roloys sto shmera kai to ayrio. Qa apogohteyqoyn omws giati den exoyn kamia qesh sto shmera kai to ayrio ths xwras.

KARELIAS: O Eforos toy esteile eidopoihsh, opws stelnei se oloys;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw. Ola ayta ta qemata, ta opoia xeirizontai, stis epimeroys ptyxes toys, oi armodies yphresies, ajiopoihqhkan apo tis etairies, apo toys omiloys, gia na katalhjoyn sta epishma porismata toys.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxei ena orqologiko keno. Lete oti gia mia perioysia 187 disekatommyriwn draxmwn, xrwsta foroys 197 disekatommyriwn draxmwn. Pws ginetai ayto;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti yparxoyn porismata, sta opoia katalhjan dyo egkyroi oikoi, toys opoioys onomasa. Ayta ta porismata einai sth diaqesh pantos endiaferomenoy.

Eyxaristw poly.

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