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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Eisagwgika, qa hqela na kanw ena sxolio me aformh dhlwseis kai anakoinwseis toy toyrkikoy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, se sxesh me tis askhseis ``NIKHFOROS'' kai ``Destined Glory@.

H askhsh ``NIKHFOROS'' entassetai sthn politikh toy dogmatos toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy (EAX) kai exei stoxo th diasfalish ths amynas ths Kyproy. H askhsh ayth diejagetai ta teleytaia xronia. Ayto poy ginetai kai pali epikairo, me aformh tis qeseis poy diatypwnei to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias einai to qema ths apostratikopoihshs ths Kyproy. Otan den yparxoyn stratiwtikes dynameis sto nhsi, den yparxei kai logos gia th diejagwgh stratiwtikwn askhsewn. H kypriakh kybernhsh, h Ellada, kat epanalhch, exoyn qesei to qema ths apostratikopoihshs ths nhsoy. H Toyrkia arneitai na antapokriqei se ayth thn protash, epiqymei, profanws, na krata se omhria thn Kypro. H Kypros einai kratos toy OHE, einai xwra poy brisketai se diapragmateyseis me thn E.E., prokeimenoy na entaxqei se aythn. Sthn periptwsh ths Kyproy, malista, oi diapragmateyseis einai oi pleon prowqhmenes se sxesh me aytes poy diejagontai me tis alles xwres poy endiaferontai na entaxqoyn sthn E.E. Ara, loipon, h Kypriakh Dhmokratia, h kypriakh kybernhsh -diapistwnontas thn arnhsh ths Toyrkias na antapokriqei sto qema ths apostratikopoihshs toy nhsioy kai th mh symmorfwsh ths Toyrkias kai twn dynamewn twn katexomenwn sta chfismata toy OHE, gia thn antimetwpish kai epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos- einai logiko na proxwra, sto plaisio ayths ths synergasias, se askhseis amyntikoy xarakthra.

Oson afora thn askhsh Destined Glory prepei na tonisw oti einai ceydes pws to NATO akyrwse h empodise pthseis ellhnikwn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn se orismenoys aerodiadromoys. O Ellhnas NATOikos dioikhths sth Larisa kai oi epiteleis toy, me dedomeno oti eixan eleyqeria sxediasmoy gia to poioi aerodiadromoi qa xrhsimopoihqoyn kata tis pthseis ellhnikwn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn, perielaban metajy twn allwn kai sygkekrimenoys aerodiadromoys panw apo ta nhsia Lhmnos kai Ikaria. To problhma dhmioyrghqhke logw ths stashs ths Toyrkias, para to oti h nomikh yphresia toy NATO anagnwrise plhrws ayto to dikaiwma gia th xwra mas. Kai ta dikaiwmata poy exoyme ta askhsame me ayto ton tropo, problepontas thn pthsh twn maxhtikwn aeroskafwn se aytoys toys aerodiadromoys. Prosqetw oti h mnhmh h h eyaisqhsia ths Toyrkias einai epilektikh, doqentos oti me th Synqhkh toy Montrai to 1936 exei arqei o xarakthras apostratikopoihshs twn sygkekrimenwn nhsiwn, kati poy to gnwrizoyn oloi kai asfalws to gnwrizoyn kai oi nomikes yphresies toy NATO. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai, to NATO na apokthsei th dynatothta na epibalei kai sthn Toyrkia th symmorfwsh pros ena sxedio askhshs poy eixe symfwnhqei, eyqys ej arxhs. Logoi asfaleias poy epikalesthke to NATO, apo thn wra poy h Toyrkia ekleise ta synora ths kai sygkekrimena ton enaerio xwro ths, htan aytoi poy odhghsan sto na paroyme thn apofash na zhthsoyme diakoph kat arxas kai sth synexeia na apoxwrhsoyme apo thn askhsh. Den tiqetai, loipon, qema periorismoy toy dikaiwmatos mas na xrhsimopoioyme toys aerodiadromoys panw apo ta sygkekrimena nhsia. Den einai paradekth h aitiash ths Toyrkias oti ta nhsia ayta exoyn afenos xarakthra apostratikopoihmenwn nhsiwn kai afeteroy oti den einai dynato na xrhsimopoioyntai aytoi oi aerodiadromoi me to neologismo oti yparxoyn kai apostratikopoihmenoi enaerioi xwroi. Emeis, me diatypwmenes kai safeis tis qeseis mas, qa synexizoyme, sto plaisio eqnikwn askhsewn h genikotera, na xrhsimopoioyme, me bash toys sxediasmoys poy kanoyme, aerodiadromoys poy opws sto parelqon etsi kai twra mporoyme kai prepei na xrhsimopoioyme, askwntas ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas, opws ayta phgazoyn apo tis dieqneis Symbaseis kai Synqhkes.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, epiprosqeta apo ayta poy exete pei, qa hqela na sxoliasete tis emprhstikes dhlwseis Ntenktas, o opoios kai enwpion Nte Soto, meta thn askhsh ``NIKHFOROS'', ekane dhlwseis oti ean h Kypriakh Dhmokratia den stamathsei na xrhsimopoiei ta sygxrona rantar poy exei balei, oson afora ta toyrkika aeroskafh poy parabiazoyn, malista, ton enaerio xwro, na mh ta egklwbizoyn. Einai dynato na legontai ayta ta pragmata se ena anejarthto kratos twn H.E.;

REPPAS: O k. Ntenktas einai arketa ekteqeimenos me th stash toy, sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn epilysh toy kypriakoy problhmatos. H dieqnhs koinothta gnwrizei oti o k. Ntenktas exei ena rolo monimws arnhtiko kai ayto epishmainetai. H Kypros, asfalws, einai kyriarxo kratos kai h kybernhsh ths Kyproy mporei na kanei tis epiloges ths, me gnwmona to symferon toy nhsioy. To symferon toy nhsioy epiballei na yparxei staqerothta, hremia kai, bebaiws, na symballoyn oloi me qetiko tropo sthn ejelijh twn syzhthsewn gia thn antimetwpish kai epilysh toy politikoy problhmatos. H Kypros den qa dwsei logariasmo gia to pws qa askhsei ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata ths. Tetoioy eidoys aitiaseis den einai paradektes. Poly perissotero @epanalambanw- otan apo thn pleyra ths kypriakhs kybernhshs exei diatypwqei h qesh pws h apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy einai mia poly shmantikh ejelijh poy qa dwsei lyseis se polla epimeroys problhmata, an antapokriqei se ayth th qesh kai h Toyrkia. Kai se ayto, ews twra, threi apolytws arnhtikh stash, pragma to opoio apodokimazetai.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: O Ntenktas apeilhse, malista, kai me polemo@

REPPAS: Tetoioy eidoys frastikes apeiles, qa elega, oti den mporei na exoyn apodekth emas. Poly perissotero otan proerxontai apo politikoys paragontes poy den nomimopoioyntai na diatypwnoyn tetoies qeseis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Einai dynaton, k. Ypoyrge, na kanete aytes tis dhlwseis poy exoyme akoysei para polles fores, meta apo kapoio gegonos, otan h Toyrkia sthn prajh dhmioyrgei tetelesmena kai ylopoiei akribws ayto poy diatypwqhke sto keimeno ths Madriths gia zwtika symferonta sto Aigaio;

REPPAS: H qesh ths Toyrkias, opws ekdhlwqhke twra, den einai kainoyrgia, den ekdhlwnetai gia prwth fora. Alla, kai h dikh mas qesh einai ayth poy pantote exoyme diatypwsei kai paramenoyme se ayth. Qa askoyme ta kyriarxika mas dikaiwmata.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ma, den ta askoyme;

REPPAS: Asfalws kai ta askoyme kai gi ayto akribws dhmioyrgoyntai ta problhmata, logw ths diaforetikhs qeshs poy exei h Toyrkia kai ths adynamias toy NATO na epibalei th symmorfwsh ths Toyrkias se aytoys toys kanones. H sxesh ayth, sto sygkekrimeno tomea, exei ena dynamiko ypobaqro. Asfalws, qa exoyme tetoia fainomena, ta opoia den einai kainoyrgia. Emeis, pantws, ston tomea ayto eimaste anypoxwrhtoi. Ta ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh xrhsimopoihsan, xrhsimopoioyn kai qa xrhsimopoioyn aytoys toys aerodiadromoys. Den tiqetai, loipon, ayto to qema se opoiadhpote syzhthsh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den eiste peistikos, giati polla gegonota sthn prajh diaforopoioyntai apo ayta poy mas lete eseis. Ereynes gia petrelaio den mporoyme na kanoyme. Sta Imia den mporoyme na pame. Ta naytika milia den mporoyme na ta epekteinoyme. Twra exoyme tis ``gkrizes'' zwnes, hdh exoyme kai desmeysh ston aera se orismenes zwnes. Poia kyriarxika dikaiwmata askoyme, mporeite na moy peite;

REPPAS: Lypoymai, giati qetete me ayton ton tropo ena erwthma, anaferomenos se seira qematwn ta opoia kat epanalhch exoyn apasxolhsei thn ejwterikh politikh ths xwras mas kai oxi monon. Asfalws askoyme ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata kai asfalws, gnwrizete eseis, opws oloi @gi ayto den prepei na qetete aytes tis erwthseis me ayton ton tropo- oti ayto enoxlei. Enoxlei thn Toyrkia, h opoia exei mia diaforetikh proseggish se seira qematwn. To oti den exoyme paraithqei apo thn askhsh aytwn twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn apodeiknyetai, metajy twn allwn, apo th dynamikh sxesh poy dhmioyrgeitai se kapoies tetoies periptwseis. Asfalws, ta Imia anhkoyn sthn ellhnikh epikrateia. H drasthriothta kai h leitoyrgia se ayta ta nhsia htan kai einai mia pragmatikothta poy den exei allajei. Exoyme pei, kat epanalhch, oti o eqnikos enaerios xwros mas ekteinetai sta 10 milia. Gnwrizete oti para polloi qewroyn pws ayto einai asymbato me to qalassio xwro twn eji miliwn, giati, kata polloys, ta oria toys prepei na sympiptoyn. Emeis yperaspizomaste ayton ton eqniko enaerio xwro kai me ta maxhtika aeroskafh mas, osakis xreiazetai. Exoyme pei, kat epanalhch, oti den yparxei kaqestws ``gkrizwn'' zwnwn sto Aigaio, doqentos oti oi dieqneis Synqhkes problepoyn thn edafikh orioqethsh twn dyo xwrwn. Exoyme tonisei, kat epanalhch, kai exoyme katasthsei se oloys apolytws safes, pws to mono qema poy xrhzei antimetwpishs kai epilyshs einai h orioqethsh ths yfalokrhpidas, poy mporei na ginei me prosfygh sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs. Ayth einai h pagia qesh mas kai se aythn paramenoyme. H Toyrkia askei ta kyriarxika ths dikaiwmata se ektash triwn naytikwn miliwn apo tis aktes ths. To oti yparxei antidrash apo thn allh pleyra den prepei na sas odhgei sto na streblwnete h na parermhneyete th dikh mas stash kai politikh, qewrwntas pws symfwnoyme me thn politikh ths allhs pleyras. Oxi mono den symfwnoyme, alla askwntas ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas erxomaste se mia antiparaqesh, h opoia apotelei kai to pedio twn tribwn, twn entasewn, ths ojynshs stis sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn, logw ths paranomhs stashs ths Toyrkias. Ayth einai h alhqeia.

MIXAHL: Xqes, doqhkan sth dhmosiothta oi dhlwseis gia to ``poqen esxes'' twn boyleytwn. Me dedomeno to oti ginetai syzhthsh peri diaplokologias, peri sxesewn me oikonomika symferonta k.t.l., h kybernhsh pws ektima to gegonos oti para polla stelexh toy Koinoboylioy asxoloyntai kai me to Xrhmatisthrio, exoyn kai metoxes se etairies, poy mporei na ennohsei kaneis oti den kinoyntai kai toso nomima stis drasthriothtes toys;

REPPAS: Apo poy prokyptei ayto to ``toso nomima'' h mh nomima to opoio qetete me thn erwthsh sas; Exete kati sygkekrimeno;

MIXAHL: Kati sygkekrimeno den yparxei. Wstoso, qa hqela ena geniko politiko sxolio.

REPPAS: Gi` ayto, akribws, problepetai h dhmosieysh twn stoixeiwn aytwn. Gia na gnwrizoyn oi polites, alla kai oi leitoyrgoi twn MME na bgazoyn ta symperasmata toys. Giati, bebaiws, oi politikoi prepei na krinontai kai gia tis epiloges toys sthn idiwtikh zwh toys. Ola ayta einai sth dhmosiothta me diafanh tropo. Mporeite eseis na ta elegjete. H syzhthsh poy mporei na ginei gia to sygkekrimeno qema, qa prepei na syndeqei me thn prwtoboylia poy analambanetai apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs gia qemata genikoterhs leitoyrgias toy politikoy systhmatos. Pio sygkekrimena, gia qemata poy aforoyn th xrhmatodothsh twn politikwn kommatwn kai twn politikwn poy, opws exoyme anakoinwsei, h kybernhsh me prwtoboylia ths qa qesei pros dhmosia syzhthsh se synennohsh me ta alla politika kommata, stis arxes toy erxomenoy Dekembrioy.

MIXAHL: Qelete na sxoliasete to gegonos oti enas boyleyths toy PASOK, o k. Tsoykatos, mesw twn perioysiakwn stoixeiwn ths syzygoy toy dexetai epikriseis oti den einai 100% kaqarh h perioysiakh toy katastash;

REPPAS: Exoyn doqei apanthseis se ola ayta. Tetoioy eidoys momfes kalo einai na apofeygontai, otan den einai tekmhriwmenes.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Paramenei h kybernhsh se ayth th frash, poy kai eseis edw kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy epanalambanate, oti olo ayto to zhthma, me tis dyo askhseis, einai ena peristatiko to opoio den prepei na mas apotrecei apo thn politikh ths ``bhma pros bhma'' proseggishs poy askeitai;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti to peristatiko ayto -kai milw gia th NATOikh askhsh- asfalws, einai mia arnhtikh ejelijh. Kata ta alla, omws, h strathgikh ths xwra mas, oson afora tis ellhno-toyrkikes sxeseis, ypagoreyetai apo to kaqhkon poy exoyme apenanti sth xwra kai sto mellon ths na diasfalisoyme thn eirhnh kai th staqerothta sthn perioxh kai na epityxoyme, se synergasia me thn E.E., thn enarmonish ths Toyrkias stoys dieqneis kanones. Giati monon etsi mporei h eirhnh kai h staqerothta na einai diarkeis. Pisteyoyme oti h diasfalish twn kyriarxikwn dikaiwmatwn mas epiballei th dhmioyrgia synqhkwn eirhnhs kai staqerothtas sthn perioxh, me sebasmo, bebaiws, twn Synqhkwn kai twn kanonwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Ayth einai h politikh mas kai se ayth paramenoyme.

KALARITHS: Qewreite oti yparxei ena qema hqikhs tajhs me thn epixeirhmatikh drasthriothta melwn ths koinoboyleytikhs omadas h syggenwn boyleytwn;

REPPAS: Oi dhlwseis gia to ``poqen esxes'' twn boyleytwn, sas eipa oti dinontai sth dhmosiothta. Den apotelei antikeimeno syzhthshs to ``poqen esxes'' enos boyleyth, enos stelexoys, sto plaisio ths politikhs enhmerwshs, poy afora to ergo ths kybernhshs. To oti dinontai sth dhmosiothta, ayto apo mono toy, dhlwnei to endiaferon twn politikwn na kanoyn gnwsta stoys polites ta perioysiaka stoixeia toys. Kai oi polites -kai me th dikh sas bohqeia poy probainete se sxetika sxolia- mporoyn na bgaloyn ta symperasmata toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas milhse gia eqnikh strathgikh politikh. H kybernhsh qa dexqei na syzhthsei ena tetoio qema kai me ta alla kommata;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti tis prohgoymenes hmeres o YPEQA kai o YPEJ enhmerwsan thn Epitroph Ejwterikwn kai Amynas ths Boylhs. Syzhthsan, gia polles wres, ola ta synafh qemata. To YPEJ exei anoiktes tis portes toy stoys politikoys arxhgoys kai stoys ekproswpoys olwn twn politikwn kommatwn. To idio kai to YPEQA. Molis proxqes, h ka Mpakogiannh episkefqhke to YPEQA kai enhmerwqhke. H enhmerwsh apo ton arxhgo GEEQA -opws h idia eipe- htan leptomerestath gia osa eginan aytes tis hmeres. Ara, loipon, h syzhthsh einai diarkhs, afoy einai anoiktos o diaylos ths epikoinwnias metajy ths kybernhshs kai twn politikwn kommatwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo enhmerwsh, allo synergasia, allo eqnikh politikh. Allo to ena, allo to allo. Allo sas rwtw egw.

REPPAS: Apanthsa. Thn politikh thn apofasizei kai thn efarmozei h kybernhsh me ta organa ths. Ayto problepei to Syntagma mas. H kybernhsh einai se diarkh epikoinwnia me ta politika kommata. An ta politika kommata h oi ekproswpoi toys qeloyn na qesoyn ypoch ths kybernhshs protaseis, apoceis, qeseis, ana pasa stigmh, mporoyn na to kanoyn. Ola ayta ta epimeroys stoixeia ajiologoyntai kai entassontai sthn politikh poy xarazei kai efarmozei h kybernhsh. Giati, bebaiws, se mia xwra -kai sth dikh mas- opoy leitoyrgoyn oi dhmokratikoi kanones, h kybernhsh eklegetai gia na kybernhsei. Se polles periptwseis, omws, me aformh kritikes poy diatypwnontai pros thn kybernhsh, diafainetai mia diaqesh, h kybernhsh poy exei eklegei apo ton ellhniko lao, na mhn exei th dynatothta na kybernhsei h na einai ypoxrewmenh na sygkybernhsei. Ayto, antilambaneste oti den mporei na ginei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos afhse aixmes oti den yparxei synergasia metajy toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas kai toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn.

REPPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti den afhse kamia tetoia aixmh. H synergasia twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn einai stenh kai synexhs. Gnwrizete kala pws thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme, se oloys toys sxetikoys tomeis, thn exoyme apofasisei syllogika, sta kybernhtika organa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos einai eyxaristhmenos apo boyleytes ``typoy Tziola'';

REPPAS: Toys boyleytes toys eklegei o ellhnikos laos, den toys diorizei o Prwqypoyrgos. Lypoymai giati, enw gnwrizete oti einai se ejelijh ena qema poy apasxolei kai th dikaiosynh me prwtoboylia ths en diastasei syzygoy toy synadelfoy, qelete na syzhthsoyme edw kai na ajiologhsoyme thn proswpikh zwh enos stelexoys. Ayto nomizw einai anepitrepto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia alloys hsastan lalistatos.

REPPAS: Me sygxwreite. Ayto deixnei ypokritikh kai mesaiwnikh proseggish.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den to qymaste.

REPPAS: Qymoymai. Ki an qelete eseis na epanaferete kati to opoio nomizete oti den enqymoymai, na to epanaferete gia na to syzhthsoyme. Qewrw oti kaqenas exei to diko toy tropo na symperiferetai kai na dra. Krinetai, bebaiws. Oi boyleytes -epanalambanw- eklegontai apo toys polites, den diorizontai. Kai epeidh gnwrizw ti exete sto myalo sas, den yparxei periptwsh na epibaloyme periorismoys sthn efhmerida sas h se opoiadhpote allh, na gracei o,ti epilejei gia to qema. Den epiballoyme kamia tetoia logokrisia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati; Sas eipa egw gia logokrisia;

REPPAS: Exw ypoch moy ti exete sto myalo sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia th diagwgh toy kyrioy sas eipa, an th dexetai o Prwqypoyrgos.

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa ki egw, gia na deite oti den einai dynato sta MME na epiblhqei logokrisia, opws exw pei kat` epanalhch.

KARELIAS: Ta ``poqen esxes'' dinontai sth dhmosiothta, opws eipate, alla kata koinh omologia, oysiastikos elegxos ep` aytwn twn dhlwsewn den ginetai. Aplws, qa sas qymisw oti perysi o Proedros ths Boylhs eixe milhsei me poly apajiwtiko tropo gia aytes tis dhlwseis. Rwtw, mhpws h kybernhsh protiqetai na analabei kapoia prwtoboylia, na synennohqei me ta alla kommata, wste na allajei o tropos elegxoy aytwn twn dhlwsewn kai na fygei, gia paradeigma apo th Boylh, eite na paei sth dikastikh ejoysia, eite na paei se anejarthth arxh;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ayto to qema mporei na antimetwpistei, sto plaisio ths syzhthshs poy qa jekinhsei stis arxes Dekembrioy, me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs. Einai ena qema to opoio prepei na to antimetwpisoyme, giati afora thn ygih leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos sto synolo toy. Ara, loipon, sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs, exei qesh kai mia tetoia proseggish. Exoyn diatypwqei diafores apoceis. Einai prowro na pei kaneis oti prepei na dhmioyrghqei mia anejarthth arxh h oti prepei na analaboyn amigws dikastika organa h kapoioi alloi foreis ayto to ergo. Gnwrizete oti orkwtoi elegktes, einai aytoi oi opoioi meletoyn tis sxetikes dhlwseis poy ypoballoyn oi boyleytes. Ajizei, omws, giati einai kai pali sthn epikairothta -kai malista sthn prwth grammh, thn teleytaia periodo- h syzhthsh ayth, poy afora th sxesh ths oikonomikhs ejoysias me thn politikh kai toys politikoys kai to qema ths ypobolhs twn sxetikwn dhlwsewn, na syzhthqei entassomeno se ena eyrytero plaisio poy qa perilambanei oloys ekeinoys poy askoyn mia drasthriothta, h opoia amesws h emmesws ephreazei th diamorfwsh ths koinhs gnwmhs, kaqorizei thn poreia ths xwras. Oi dhlwseis, loipon, aytwn twn paragontwn na ypoballontai me tetoio tropo, wste na einai dynatos kai o elegxos ths alhqeias twn stoixeiwn ta opoia dhlwnontai. Einai ena qema poy mporei na antimetwpistei sto plaisio ths prwtoboylias poy analambanoyme, se peripoy ena mhna.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: Qa hqela, an einai dynato, na sxoliasete to gegonos oti sto INTERNET, sth selida toy toyrkikoy YPEJ, yparxei xarths poy perilambanei polles ellhnikes braxonhsides me toyrkika onomata.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti polla kentra sthn Toyrkia kataskeyazoyn xartes, ``kataskeyazoyn istoria''. Prospaqoyn etsi na prowqhsoyn tis epidiwjeis toys. Ola ayta, kat` epanalhch, exoyn katarrifqei, exoyn antimetwpistei apo tis yphresies ths xwras mas.

Oi dieqneis Synqhkes, opws exoyn apotypwqei, einai eyglwttes kai den afhnoyn periqwrio se opoiondhpote na tis amfisbhthsei. H Toyrkia to epixeirei, alla den prokeitai na epityxei tipota.

MOYRTZHS: Eystaqei ayto poy diabasa shmera, oti o Prwqypoyrgos enexeirise sta melh toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy epistolh me thn opoia toys desmeyei na energopoihqoyn perissotero;

REPPAS: Exei dwsei sxetikh apanthsh to idio to PASOK. Afora mia eswterikh leitoyrgia toy Kinhmatos. Einai mia typikh diadikasia ayth. Doqhke apanthsh, giati dhmioyrghqhke mia entypwsh poy htan anantistoixh me thn pragmatikothta.

KAMPOYRGIANNH: Ayth h idiaiterothta poy, an den kanw laqos, nomizw oti prokeitai gia pagkosmia prwtotypia, na mhn antistoixoyn ta xwrika ydata me ton enaerio xwro, dhmioyrgei prosqeth dyskolia ws pros thn amyntikh kai ejwterikh politikh kai an nai, h kybernhsh prokeitai na allajei@;

REPPAS: Emeis paramenoyme se ayth th qesh. Den prokeitai na metakinhqoyme oyte keraia. To anefera ayto, giati ki eseis gnwrizete -kai ajizei na to ypenqymisw gia aytoys poy den to qymoyntai- oti alles dynameis den anagnwrizoyn ayth th diaforopoihsh metajy qalassioy kai enaerioy xwroy. Emeis yperaspizomaste eqniko enaerio xwro deka miliwn. Ayth einai h qesh mas kai paramenoyme se ayth. Den to syzhtoyme.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Eipate prohgoymenws, oti sto plaisio ths syzhthshs poy qa jekinhsei anamesa sto kybernwn komma kai ta ypoloipa kommata, endexomenws qa prepei na symperilhfqoyn kai alloi paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs, opws ekeinoi diamorfwnoyn thn koinh gnwmh. Exete sto myalo sas kapoies kathgories poy einai ektos twn boyleytwn, twn ypoyrgwn, twn politikwn; Ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Den exw tipota sto myalo moy, peran twn oswn syzhthqhkan sto plaisio twn diadikasiwn gia thn anaqewrhsh twn diatajewn toy Syntagmatos, opoy ginetai prospaqeia na diasfalistei plhrws me diafores proseggiseis, me diatajeis poy aforoyn kai alloys paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs, pera apo toys politikoys h diafaneia sto dhmosio bio. Alla, ola ayta ta qemata, qa antimetwpistoyn sto plaisio ths syzhthshs poy, me prwtoboylia ths h kybernhsh, eishgoymenh mia desmh metrwn, qa jekinhsei stis arxes Dekembrioy.

Sas eyxaristw.

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