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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 23 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis prosexeis hmeres.

O Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai, ayth thn wra, me to Grammatea ths K.E. toy PASOK K. Skandalidh enocei kai ths apocinhs synedriashs toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Argotera, amesws meta th synergasia toy me ton K. Skandalidh, qa dexqei toys ypoyrgoys K. Laliwth, Xr. Berelh kai to symboylo k. Makrywnith kai qa syzhthsoyn qemata sxetika me thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada toy 2004, thn kataskeyh diaforwn ergwn kai thn proodo toys. To apogeyma stis 7, qa synedriasei, opws eipa, to Ektelestiko Grafeio, to opoio qa asxolhqei me thn politikh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias. Qa einai parwn kai qa eishghqei o ypoyrgos Ergasias T. Giannitshs. Isws exete ypoch sas oti stis 3 Noembrioy to PASOK organwnei diaskech me antikeimeno ayta ta qemata.

Ayrio, stis 11 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synergastei me ton Akh Tsoxatzopoylo kai to Gianno Papantwnioy gia qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn armodiothta twn dyo ypoyrgwn. Tetoia qemata einai ta ejoplistika programmata poy xrhmatodotoyntai apo ton kratiko proypologismo. Sth 1 to meshmeri paraqetei geyma pros timhn toy Oikoymenikoy Patriarxh poy episkeptetai th xwra mas. Qa prohghqei synanthsh twn dyo andrwn. To brady, stis 9, qa parakaqhsei se deipno pros timhn toy Oikoymenikoy Patriarxh poy paraqetei o Arxiepiskopos Aqhnwn kai pashs Ellados.

Thn Tetarth to prwi anaxwroyme gia ta Skopia -exete enhmerwqei, edw kai arketo kairo- opoy organwnetai h Balkanikh Diaskech. Qa epistrecoyme ayqhmeron.

Thn Pempth, telikws, den qa ginei synedriash kybernhtikoy organoy.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synergastei me ton K. Laliwth, to Q. Pagkalo, to G. Flwridh kai thn k. Aggelopoyloy, pali gia qemata sxetika me thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia thn Olympiada.

Sas lew, ek prooimioy, oti thn epomenh ebdomada, thn Trith (31/10), problepetai h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, me antikeimeno ton Proypologismo.

Thn epomenh, Tetarth 1h Noembrioy, qa synedriasei to ypoyrgiko symboylio, me antikeimeno syzhthshs ton Proypologismo, o opoios @opws exoyme anakoinwsei edw kai kairo- qa katateqei thn idia hmera sth Boylh.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Exei parei h kybernhsh sta xeria ths thn apanthsh toy NATO poy perimene, anejarthta ths apofashs poy phre h idia na apoxwrhsoyn oi ellhnikes dynameis apo thn askhsh Destined Glory;

REPPAS: O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas eixe steilei epistolh sto G.G. toy NATO k. Rompertson. Oi dyo andres epikoinwnhsan arketes fores, thlefwnikws. H Ellada phre thn apofash na aposyrei tis dynameis ths apo thn askhsh ayth, h opoia problepetai na oloklhrwqei ayrio to brady, 24 Oktwbrioy. Isws ekdoqei anakoinwsh apo to NATO, meta thn oloklhrwsh ths askhshs. H dikh mas qesh paramenei ayth poy diakhryjame apo thn arxh. To NATO mas edine th dynatothta, anagnwrize to dikaiwma poy exoyme na xrhsimopoioyme oloys toys aerodiadromoys gia na petajoyn ta ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh poy symmeteixan se ayth thn askhsh. Dhmioyrghqhke qema otan toyrkika maxhtika aeroskafh kai oi armodioi paragontes ths Toyrkias qewrhsan oti ayto den mporei na ginei dekto apo th dikh toys pleyra. Emeis, apo th stigmh poy to NATO den mporoyse na kinhqei gia na diasfalisei thn efarmogh twn symfwnhqentwn -oxi apla, dhladh, na anagnwrisei to dikaiwma mas, alla na diasfalisei kai na eggyhqei kai thn efarmogh, sthn prajh, twn symfwnhqentwn- phrame thn apofash na aposyroyme tis dynameis mas. Ayth einai h swsth epilogh.

MIXAHL: Pws krinete eseis th stash toy NATO, poy leei nai men exete to dikaiwma na petate, alla jerete kati, egw den mporw na sas eggyhqw poy qa petate. Den einai antifatikh h qesh ayth;

REPPAS: To NATO brisketai se mia adynamia, giati thn wra poy to idio organwnei mia shmantikh askhsh, diapistwnei oti oi xwres poy symmetexoyn se ayth thn askhsh exoyn diafwnies se toso krisima zhthmata, wste na mhn einai dynaton h askhsh na oloklhrwqei, symfwna me osa arxikws eixan symfwnhqei. H Toyrkia apo thn pleyra ths -oi stratiwtikoi kykloi poy pairnoyn aytes tis apofaseis- paramenei se mia orismenh qesh poy den mas briskei symfwnoys. Emeis anaptyssoyme tis drasthriothtes mas, me bash kanones, arxes, qeseis poy exoyme diatypwsei kai synantoyn thn antidrash ths Toyrkias. Ayto einai ena qema poy den mporei na antimetwpisei to NATO, mexri twra, me synepeia h askhsh ayth na mhn ejelissetai etsi opws arxikws eixe problefqei. Ayto einai ena pragmatiko problhma, to opoio prepei na antimetwpisei to NATO.

MIXAHL: Pws sxoliazete kinhseis poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, kaqws kai dhlwseis oti h ejelijh ayth apodeiknyei to adiejodo ths politikhs poy akoloyqei h Ellada apenanti sthn Toyrkia, ton teleytaio kairo;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei, kat epanalhch, oti h proseggish ths Elladas me thn Toyrkia einai mia xrhsimh ypoqesh kai gia tis dyo xwres, efoson ejelixqei kala. Apo thn allh, omws, einai mia ypoqesh, kaqe allo para eykolh. Ayto shmainei oti h proseggish me thn Toyrkia qa synanta empodia, qa diakrinetai apo diakymanseis. Gia mas, omws @kai briskw thn eykairia me aformh thn erwthsh sas na to epanalabw ayto- h politikh mas exei ena strathgiko xarakthra: politikh gia thn proseggish ths Toyrkias sthn E.E., thn entajh ths stoys eyrwpaikoys qesmoys kai th symmorfwsh kai desmeysh ths me kanones kai arxes poy isxyoyn gia oles tis xwres ths E.E. Giati, pisteyoyme oti mia Toyrkia poy enarmonizetai me ayto to plaisio einai mia Toyrkia dhmokratikh, mia Toyrkia poy anaptyssetai oikonomika kai proodeyei, mia Toyrkia poy mporei na symballei sth dhmioyrgia synqhkwn kalhs geitonias sthn perioxh. Apo th dikh mas pleyra, apodedeigmena, exei ekfrastei h diaqesh mas gi ayth thn proseggish. Den exei antapokriqei h Toyrkia, h opoia den exei analabei tis ypoxrewseis ths. Ayto einai, loipon, ena anoikto qema. Den qa prepei, omws, me bash ayto to opoio se kapoio baqmo prepei na einai kai anamenomeno , na qewroyme oti h politikh ths ``bhma pros bhma'' proseggishs, h politikh ths dhmioyrgias sxesewn kalhs geitonias me thn Toyrkia, h politikh ths anoikths epikoinwnias me thn Toyrkia, den einai orqh politikh. Einai h monadikh politikh poy prepei na akoloyqhsoyme, giati antapokrinetai sto symferon ths xwras mas kai ths eyryterhs perioxhs.

SOYRMELH: Dyo pragmata: Epeidh thn Paraskeyh, apo o,ti fainetai, h Toyrkia eixe afhsei na perasoyn ta aeroplana kanonika, mhpws h diejagwgh twn ellhnokypriakwn gymnasiwn allaje ayth th symperifora; Dhladh, oti qewrhqhke proklhsh ayto. Kai deyteron, ean ayth th stigmh poy milame oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis einai se dyskolh stigmh, se kakh stigmh, pws xarakthrizontai;

REPPAS: Qa elega oti oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis prepei na kriqoyn sthn ejelijh toys, me bash polloys paragontes poy prepei na ajiologoyntai kaqe fora. Den einai dynaton oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis na arxizoyn kai na teleiwnoyn se ena peristatiko, oso krisimo, oso shmantiko kai an einai, opws einai mia NATOikh askhsh. Einai polla ta stoixeia poy prepei na synektimhqoyn gia na bgalei kapoios ena asfales symperasma. Kai pantws, einai ena stoixhma poy prepei na kerdisoyn kai oi dyo xwres. Emeis, apo th dikh mas pleyra, pisteyoyme oti exoyme kanei epiloges kai prajeis, wste na exoyme kerdisei ayto to stoixhma, ws kybernhsh, ws xwra, ws laos. Ayto einai anagnwrismeno dieqnws. H Toyrkia prepei na kerdisei ki ekeinh to analogo stoixhma.

Oson afora thn askhsh sthn Kypro, moy dinete thn eykairia na pw oti syxna kapoioi mas kathgoroyn gia thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme. Apo thn allh otan dinoyme ypostash sto dogma toy Eniaioy Amyntikoy Xwroy (EAX), me thn organwsh kai diejagwgh twn koinwn askhsewn Elladas kai Kyproy, kapoioi qewroyn oti kai ayto einai ena problhma. Emeis synexizoyme thn politikh mas, giati qewroyme oti einai orqh. H koinh askhsh Elladas kai Kyproy, den exei opoiodhpote epiqetiko xarakthra. Monadikos ths stoxos einai h yperaspish ths Kyproy, h asfaleia ths Kyproy. Exoyme tonisei, kat epanalhch, se oloys toys tonoys, me prwto ton idio ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, oti h apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy einai ayth poy mporei na dhmioyrghsei ena neo periballon. An pragmatika antapokriqei se ayth thn prosklhsh kai proklhsh h Toyrkia na aposyrei tis katoxikes dynameis kai na odhghqoyme se apostratikopoihsh toy nhsioy, den xreiazetai pleon na ginontai oyte gymnasia, den xreiazetai opoiadhpote stratiwtikh paroysia sthn Kypro. Ayth einai h kalyterh apanthsh. Emeis exoyme diatypwsei ayth thn protash kai se ayto h allh pleyra einai ypoxrewmenh na antapokriqei. Mexri tote, omws, emeis qa eimaste oxi apla konta, alla mazi me thn Kypro, sthn prospaqeia poy kanei na diasfalisei afenos thn amyna ths kai afeteroy se politiko kai diplwmatiko epipedo, anaptyssontas diafores prwtoboylies, na entaxqei sth dieqnh koinothta, idiaiterws sthn eyrwpaikh oikogeneia. Ayth h politikh mas einai jekaqarh. To mhnyma poy stelnoyme einai safes, giati qewroyme oti opws mexri twra etsi kai sto mellon prepei na akoloyqoyme mia politikh arxwn. Kai oles oi xwres @h Toyrkia idiws- qa prepei na sebontai tis arxes kai toys kanones poy xarakthrizoyn th symperifora olwn twn xwrwn sthn E.E.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eixan ginei dyo amerikanika diabhmata sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, wste na mh steiloyme emeis aeroplana sthn Kypro;

REPPAS: Ayto to egrace o k. Bitalhs poy einai dipla sas, to Sabbato. O presbhs twn HPA eixe mia epikoinwnia gia diafora qemata me toys armodioys ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs. Anaferqhke sto qema ayto se epikoinwnia poy eixe me toys ypoyrgoys Eqnikhs Amynas kai Ejwterikwn. Gnwrizete poly kala oti thn politikh sth xwra mas th sxediazei kai thn efarmozei h kybernhsh dia twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn. Kai h politikh poy sxediasame kai efarmosame htan ayth poy odhghse sthn organwsh ayths ths askhshs Elladas-Kyproy me ta poly qetika apotelesmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta giati den doqhkan sth dhmosiothta; Giati den anakoinwqhke oti eginan ta dyo diabhmata;

REPPAS: Giati kapoioi einai kalyteroi reporter apo esas!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati apekrybhsan apo to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Den apekryce kaneis tipota. Kanete terastio laqos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia th ``bhma pros bhma proseggish'', jerete oti exei balei h Toyrkia stoixhma;

REPPAS: Apeyqynqeite ston ekproswpo ths Toyrkias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete oti exoyme balei stoixhma emeis kai h Toyrkia; Jerete oti exei balei h Toyrkia;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti oi sxeseis kalhs geitonias, h politikh staqerothta, h eirhnh sthn perioxh einai agaqa poy den mporei para na apoteloyn tis prwtes epiloges gia oloys. Kaqenas energei me gnwmona to symferon toy. Bebaiws, ayto den mporei na parakamfqei kai na agnohqei. Gia thn askhsh ths dikhs mas politikhs, to eqniko symferon einai o kaqoristikos gnwmonas ths politikhs mas. Alla h politikh mas einai politikh arxwn, einai politikh kanonwn. Ayto prepei na kanei kai h Toyrkia. Kai to stoixhma ayto kaloyme thn Toyrkia na kerdisei. Na kanei politikh arxwn kai kanonwn. Giati to na sebesai thn eirhnh, na doyleyeis gia thn politikh staqerothta, gia tis kales sxeseis metajy twn xwrwn, den einai tipota allo, para ypakoh, yposthrijh kapoiwn arxwn, kapoiwn kanonwn. Ayto to stoixhma prepei na to kerdisei kai h Toyrkia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa synexisete ayth thn politikh twn ypoxwrhsewn;

REPPAS: Einai dikh sas apoch. Emeis qa synexisoyme mia politikh h opoia anadeiknyei thn Ellada se prwtagwnisth sthn eyryterh perioxh. Mia politikh poy antapokrinetai sta eqnika symferonta mas kai thn prooptikh ths xwras kai toy ellhnikoy laoy.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h Ellada protiqetai, sto plaisio toy dialogoy poy yparxei sthn E.E. gia to qema ths etairikhs sxeshs Toyrkias-E.E., na ferei to qema poy proekyce sto Aigaio me thn askhsh, dhladh, oti h Toyrkia epanaferei tis pagies diekdikhseis ths, opws twra, sto proskhnio.

REPPAS: Oson afora thn etairikh sxesh ths E.E. me thn Toyrkia, gnwrizete oti episkefqhke th xwra mas o k. Berxogen tis prohgoymenes hmeres. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai safhs. Qa prepei to keimeno, to gramma kai to pneyma ths apofashs Koryfhs sto Elsinki na perilhfqei sto keimeno ths etairikhs sxeshs. H etairikh sxesh diamorfwnetai apo thn E.E., me eswterikes diaboyleyseis. Den einai qema ths Toyrkias. Sto plaisio, loipon, aytoy toy keimenoy, prepei to Elsinki na epanadiatypwnetai aytoysio, qa elega. Giati, mas endiaferei toso h anaptyjh sxesewn kalhs geitonias Elladas-Toyrkias, oso kai h proodos twn entajiakwn diadikasiwn gia thn Kypro. Kai bebaiws, h katastash sthn Toyrkia, oson afora to sebasmo twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn, th leitoyrgia twn koinoboyleytikwn qesmwn poy einai krithria -ta legomena ``krithria ths Kopegxaghs- ta opoia lambanontai ypoch sth diatypwsh aytoy toy keimenoy. Ayto, loipon, to qema tiqetai ek twn pragmatwn. Kata ta alla, o k. Tsoxatzopoylos sas eipa oti eixe allepallhles thlefwnikes epikoinwnies me ton k. Rompertson kai eqese ta synafh qemata.

FILHS: An h Ellada protiqetai, epishs, na labei toylaxiston kapoia prolhptika metra, wste na apofeyxqei epanalhch toy idioy fainomenoy se epomenh askhsh;

REPPAS: Emeis kai twra poy h askhsh ejelissetai xwris th dikh mas symmetoxh, an xreiastei, qa apogeiwsoyme maxhtika aeroskafh, prokeimenoy na yperaspistoyme ta kyriarxika dikaiwmata mas kai ta eqnika symferonta. H qesh ayth einai safhs kai kathgorhmatikh. To NATO, epanalambanw, anagnwrise oti mporei na xrhsimopoioyme diaforoys aerodiadromoys kai toys sygkekrimenoys. To NATO anagnwrise oti den exei th dynatothta na epibalei to sebasmo aytoy toy dikaiwmatos poy mas anagnwrizei kai apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias. Etsi, dhmioyrghqhke to problhma. Apo ekei kai pera, to NATO exei na antimetwpisei ena zhthma to opoio dhmioyrghqhke. Emeis, paramenoyme sthn politikh, poy pantote eixame, gia ta sygkekrimena qemata. Ayth einai h politikh poy synexizoyme kai akoloyqoyme kai me aformh ayth thn askhsh kai me aformh endexomenws allwn askhsewn sto mellon.

FILHS: Sxetika me th Synodo Koryfhs sta Skopia, yparxei kapoia enhmerwsh gia to poioi qa symmetexoyn;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw ayth thn wra kai den einai swsto na milhsw ek meroys allwn kybernhsewn, gia to poioi akribws qa symmetasxoyn se ayth th diaskech.

FILHS: Qa einai oles oi kybernhseis twn xwrwn ths Balkanikhs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti h kybernhsh ths Albanias exei mia epifylajh. Pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na einai oles oi xwres. Einai mia shmantikh stigmh gia th Notioanatolikh Eyrwph, meta tis teleytaies ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia kai nomizw oti qa prepei na diaskeftoyn oi hgetes olwn twn xwrwn ths perioxhs gia ta qemata ayta.

FILHS: Poia einai h diadikasia; Qa bgei anakoinwqen;

REPPAS: Einai h diadikasia poy akoloyqeitai pantote se Synodoys Koryfhs twn balkanikwn kratwn. Dhladh, meta thn oloklhrwsh ths Diaskechs, oi hgetes qa paraxwrhsoyn koinh synenteyjh Typoy, opws egine kai stis prohgoymenes Diaskeceis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Etsi opws ekqetete thn apoch sas, den dinete thn entypwsh oti yparxei, pleon, ena tetelesmeno sto Aigaio; Dioti, an h Toyrkia synexisei na akoloyqei ayth thn taktikh kai emeis thn idia poy akoloyqhsame twra, einai ena tetelesmeno gegonos.

REPPAS: Eipa oti to NATO kaleitai na antimetwpisei ena problhma. Emeis paramenoyme sthn politikh poy eixame pantote ki etsi qa symperiferomaste kai sto mellon. H Toyrkia paramenei sthn politikh poy eixe panta gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Se mia mellontikh askhsh, omws, hdh dhmioyrgeitai ena eqimiko dikaio.

REPPAS: Gi` ayto, loipon, eipa oti to NATO exei na antimetwpisei ena problhma. Den dhmioyrgeitai eqimiko dikaio apo thn wra poy emeis, kanontas safh poia einai ta stoixeia poy sygkrotoyn thn politikh mas, den allazoyme ayth thn politikh. Stelnoyme to mhnyma, me kathgorhmatiko tropo, oti qa parameinoyme proshlwmenoi se ayth thn politikh, giati einai orqh politikh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: To NATO exei apodexqei h exei symfwnhsei me thn apoch ths Toyrkias gia to qema poy dhmioyrghqhke me ta eji milia sto Aigaio;

REPPAS: Epeidh diafora dhmosieymata anaferontai kai se ayto, prepei na sas pw oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh den exei ginei apodekths opoioydhpote shmatos toy NATO. Kai en pash periptwsei, an qelete na milhsoyme kai epi ths oysias gia to qema ayto, qa sas pw oti den tiqetai opoiodhpote qema kai apo thn pleyra toy NATO gia th dynatothta mas na yperaspizomaste, ws eqniko enaerio xwro, ayton poy brisketai mesa sta deka milia. Paramenoyme, loipon, se ayth th qesh kai me bash ayth qa epixeiroyn na kinoyntai ta ellhnika maxhtika aeroskafh.

KYRIAKIDOY: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn paraithsh toy k. Kakogiannh apo thn Politistikh Olympiada;

REPPAS: O k. Kakogiannhs einai mia shmantikh proswpikothta. Se ayth thn eqnikh prospaqeia, anagkaio einai na symmetexoyn oi pio shmantikoi paragontes ths xwras mas. Mas lypei ayth h ejelijh. Moy dinetai h eykairia na pw -epeidh eida sxetika dhmosieymata kai gi` ayto to anaferw- oti apo to Ypoyrgeio Politismoy den exei ginei opoiadhpote proslhch proswpikoy h stelexwn, wste na dhmioyrgeitai parapono gia to oti eginan proslhceis xwris na exei enhmerwqei h dioikhsh ths Politistikhs Olympiadas. Pisteyw, omws, oti etsi ki alliws, einai apwleia h paraithsh toy k. Kakogiannh. En pash periptwsei, to Eqnos exei dynameis, qa synexisei ayth thn prospaqeia kai pisteyw oti kai h Politistikh Olympiada qa stefqei apo apolyth epityxia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sthn epistolh toy den leei oti exoyn ginei proslhceis;

REPPAS: Eida sxetika dhmosieymata. Sas lew oti den exei ginei kamia proslhch, ara den mporei na einai aytos o logos. Na rwthsete, loipon, ton k. Kakogiannh se poies proslhceis anaferetai.

MOIRAS: Epanerxomenos sto qema ths askhshs toy NATO, stekomai se mia prohgoymenh diatypwsh sas poy eipate oti to NATO anagnwrise toys aerodiadromoys, alla dexqhke oti den mporei na to epibalei. Oti den mporei na to epibalei, einai ektimhsh ths kybernhshs h to NATO jekaqarise oti kaname tis aparaithtes energeies, alla h Toyrkia einai anendoth, opote kai emeis shkwnoyme ta xeria chla.

REPPAS: Htan safh ta osa eipa. Prepei na sas pw oti toso oi stratiwtikes arxes toy NATO, oso kai h nomikh yphresia toy, anagnwrizoyn oti einai apolyto dikaiwma mas na xrhsimopoioyme kai aytoys toys diadromoys. Ayto kaname. Se kapoies periptwseis xwris na dhmioyrghqei opoiodhpote problhma, enw se alles dhmioyrghqhke problhma kai gi` ayto akribws phrame ayth thn telikh apofash mas.

SOYRMELH: Ti ginetai me thn Politistikh Olympiada; Mhpws paraithqhke o anqrwpos, giati den blepei na ginetai tipota;

REPPAS: Na rwthsete ton k. Kakogiannh an exei kapoioys alloys logoys. Gia thn Politistikh Olympiada exoyme labei sxetikes apofaseis. Metajy twn allwn, perilambanei poly shmantikes ekdhlwseis, opws kai thn kataskeyh pollwn ergwn ypodomhs se olh thn epikrateia. Giati eipame oti oi ekdhlwseis sto plaisio ths Politistikhs Olympiadas qa ginoyn se olh thn epikrateia. Kai ena shmantiko meros, sxedon to miso twn porwn poy qa diateqoyn, katanemetai etsi, wste na odeysei pros thn ellhnikh perifereia. Antilambaneste pws einai mia shmantikh eykairia gia thn anaptyjh ths ypaiqroy se orismenoys tomeis kai idiaitera ston politistiko tomea. Kai ayth thn eykairia qa thn ajiopoihsoyme.

MIXAHL: Exei ginei megalh syzhthsh, ton teleytaio kairo, gia ton tropo qwrakishs toy politikoy kosmoy apo th legomenh ``diaplokh'', eidikotera apo tis epirroes twn oikonomikwn kentrwn ejoysias. H kybernhsh ektima oti o tropos me ton opoio leitoyrgei to systhma toy ``poqen esxes'' twn politikwn, poy shmera doqhkan sth dhmosiothta, einai eparkhs h xreiazetai na allajei kai na enisxyqei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti ta qemata ayta exoyn syzhthqei kat` epanalhch. Opws gnwrizete, epishs, oti, logw akribws toy gegonotos twn pollwn sxoliwn h twn dysmenwn entypwsewn poy dhmioyrgoyntai me aformh ayto to qema, h kybernhsh exei ejaggeilei th boylhsh ths na analabei sxetikh prwtoboylia. H ypoyrgos Eswterikwn, Dhmosias Dioikhshs kai Apokentrwshs, ews tis arxes Dekembrioy, qa paroysiasei th qesh ths kybernhshs gia qemata poy aforoyn th xrhmatodothsh twn kommatwn kai twn politikwn. Sto plaisio, loipon, twn syzhthsewn poy qa ginoyn me bash ayth thn eishghsh, ta kommata kai oi alloi paragontes ths dhmosias zwhs qa exoyn th dynatothta na diatypwsoyn tis apoceis toys me skopo na proxwrhsoyme sthn analhch kai nomoqetikwn prwtoboyliwn, an ayto einai anagkaio, na dhmioyrghsoyme ena plhrestero qesmiko plaisio kai na antimetwpisoyme kai to qema sto opoio anafereste, poy pragmatika synista ena problhma.

MIXAHL: Eiste ypoxrewmenoi apo to nomo na kataqetete ena ``poqen esxes''. O elegxos ginetai apo th Boylh. Yparxoyn synadelfoi sas olwn twn kommatwn, kyriws apo thn pleyra ths N.D. alla kai toy PASOK, poy lene oti aytos o elegxos mporei na ginei apo tis dikastikes Arxes gia paradeigma, kai na einai elegxos oysias kai oxi aplws elegxos typikothtas kai ypoxrewshs toy na eiste entajei apenanti sto nomo.

REPPAS: To isxyon nomiko plaisio to gnwrizete. Symfwna me ayto to plaisio, katatiqentai ta legomena ``poqen esxes'' twn politikwn. Oi opoies syzhthseis, epanalambanw, exoyn th qesh toys thn wra poy h kybernhsh analambanei ayth thn prwtoboylia kai diatypwnei mia oloklhrwmenh protash gia ta synafh qemata.

PAPPA: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an h kybernhsh ejetazei to endexomeno na mhn exoyn oi boyleytes th dynatothta askhshs toy epaggelmatos toys, dedomenoy oti to qema afora deka megalogiatroys kai deka megalodikhgoroys.

REPPAS: Ayto mporei na syzhthqei sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh to Syntagmatos. Oi synadelfoi, se ayth thn koinoboyleytikh diadikasia, diatypwnoyn tis apoceis toys. Exei diatypwqei kai mia tetoia apoch. H kybernhsh, ayth thn wra, exei mia genikh qesh yper ths lhchs opoioydhpote metroy poy einai prosforo, prokeimenoy, metajy twn allwn, na apokatasthsoyme kai thn en pollois trwqeisa ajiopistia toy politikoy kosmoy. An ena tetoio metro symballei se ayth thn kateyqynsh, bebaiws, prepei na to antimetwpisoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Emeis eipate, se mia stigmh, an xreiastei kai twra mporoyme na shkwsoyme ta aeroplana mas. Ti ennoeite me ayto;

REPPAS: Hmoyn safhs. Emeis den symmetexoyme twra se kamia askhsh kai den epixeiroyn, sto plaisio askhshs, ta aeroplana mas. An qewrhsoyme, omws, oti parabiazetai o eqnikos enaerios xwros, tote ki emeis qa antidrasoyme analogws. Den qa meinoyme apaqeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mono se parabiaseis..

REPPAS: Ti allo na kanoyme; Den symmetexoyme se askhsh.

MOIRAS: Pera apo to qesmiko plaisio, ta elegktika organa toy kratoys den mporoyn poly apla na katagracoyn esoda, na ypologisoyn ta ejoda kai na doyn piqana kena poy isws mporei na yparjoyn;

REPPAS: Ayto ginetai, hdh, kai xrhsimopoioyntai kai orkwtoi elegktes se ayth th diadikasia. Yparxei ena plegma, mia desmh diadikasiwn poy akoloyqoyntai, poy dinei ayta ta apotelesmata ta opoia kapoioi krinoyn. An prepei pragmatika na kanoyme kati sthn kateyqynsh ayth, emeis eimaste anoiktoi se kaqe tetoia protash. Alla, eipa oti h kybernhsh qa analabei ayth thn prwtoboylia.

FILHS: Pote qa katateqei to nomosxedio toy Ypoyrgeioy Ergasias gia tis ergasiakes sxeseis;

REPPAS: Den mporw na sas pw sygkekrimenh hmeromhnia. Prepei na sas tonisw, omws, oti, opws apo thn arxh to exoyme dhlwsei, emeis qeloyme, an einai dynato, na pame se qeseis poy qa exoyn prokycei meta apo symfwnia. An ayto den einai efikto, qa prepei na proxwrhsoyme, diatypwnontas th dikh mas protash. Giati, ayto poy proexei gia mas, einai na antimetwpisoyme ta pragmatika problhmata. H anergia einai, isws, to koryfaio problhma ayth thn wra sth xwra mas kai pisteyw oti exoyme ypoxrewsh na paroyme sygkekrimenh prwtoboylia. Qeloyme ayth h prwtoboylia na periexei tis qeseis, tis apoceis, tis protaseis kai twn allwn koinwnikwn forewn.

FILHS: Entos toy etoys;

REPPAS: Ayth thn wra, einai epipolaio na anakoinwsoyme hmeromhnia. Qa to kanoyme otan qewroyme oti eimaste etoimoi na paroyme ayth thn prwtoboylia. Den gnwrizw, pantws, an qa ginei ayton h ton epomeno mhna.

Sas eyxaristw.

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