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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 16 Oktwbrioy2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw eisagwgikws gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gi ayth thn ebdomada.

Ayth th stigmh exei synergasia me to Grammatea ths K.E. toy PASOK Kwsta Skandalidh, gia qemata poy aforoyn th leitoyrgia toy Kinhmatos. Sth 1.30 qa dexqei thn Proedro ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs toy 2004 kyria Gianna Aggelopoyloy, enocei ths ayrianhs (10 to prwi) diypoyrgikhs syskechs poy qa exei antikeimeno thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Einai endexomeno meta to telos ths diypoyrgikhs syskechs o Prwqypoyrgos na exei, kata periptwsh, synergasia me ypoyrgoys poy exoyn armodiothta se qemata proetoimasias ths xwras mas gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

Apoce o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei brabeyqentes maqhtes ths B@ Lykeioy poy diakriqhkan stis epidoseis toys kai episkefqhkan diafores xwres ths E.E., sto plaisio programmatos poy eixan ejaggeilei o Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh.

Thn Tetarth to prwi, stis 10.30, qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias sthn taktikh synanthsh toys, prokeimenoy na ton enhmerwsei gia qemata eswterikhs kai ejwterikhs politikhs.

Thn Pempth, stis 10 to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai qa asxolhqei me thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei omada peripoy 10 boyleytwn toy PASOK. Qa syzhthqoyn qemata leitoyrgias ths K.O. kai oi politikes ejelijeis. Den exei anakoinwqei poioi qa einai oi boyleytes. Einai ena qema poy to xeirizetai o Ypoyrgos Epikrateias Miltiadhs Papaiwannoy. H synqesh ayths ths omadas twn boyleytwn den qa ginei me krithria gewgrafika, eite krithria armodiothtwn, analogws dhladh pws einai entagmenoi stis koinoboyleytikes epitropes. H synanthsh ayth entassetai sto plaisio twn epafwn toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys boyleytes. Ayth qa einai h prwth epikoinwnia. Qa akoloyqhsoyn kai alles.

Qa moy epitrecete na ekfrasw ta syllyphthria moy stoys oikeioys toy Neokosmoy Tzalla, dhmosiografoy o opoios htan panta akoyrastos kai synephs, ws antapokriths jenwn MME. Htan parwn, enhmerwse th dieqnh koinh gnwmh gia shmantika gegonota poy synebhsan tis teleytaies dekaeties sth xwra mas. H dhmosiografikh oikogeneia exei mia shmantikh apwleia.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mporeite na mas peite ti ginetai me to Albaniko, giati apo thn pleyra twn Tiranwn diafainetai mia sklhrynsh sth stash toys;

REPPAS: Exoyme ekfrasei thn anhsyxia mas gia tis ejelijeis sthn Albania, sto plaisio ths eklogikhs diadikasias. Gnwrizete oti h albanikh kybernhsh eixe eggyhqei oti oi eklogikes diadikasies qa ginoyn me tropo adiablhto. Ta stoixeia poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas -apo parathrhtes jenwn organismwn, alla kai apo tis dikes mas yphresies sto geitoniko kratos- odhgoyn sto symperasma oti exoyme parabiaseis ths eklogikhs diadikasias. Ayta ta qemata qa ta qesoyme stoys dieqneis organismoys. To Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas exei epidoqei, ayth thn wra, sthn prospaqeia na sygkentrwsei ola ta stoixeia. Analoga stoixeia exoyn kai oi jenoi organismoi. To qema ayto qa apotelesei antikeimeno syzhthshs metajy twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths E.E., meta apo dikh mas prwtoboylia. Asfalws, oi ellhnoalbanikes sxeseis ephreazontai apo tetoioy eidoys symperifores ths geitonikhs xwras. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai, h katastash na parameinei ypo elegxo. Qa prepei na apomonwqoyn fainomena h symperifores poy blaptoyn thn poreia twn ellhnoalbanikwn sxesewn. H ellhnikh kybernhsh gia mia akomh fora dhlwnei oti qa diasfalisei ta dikaiwmata ths ellhnikhs eqnikhs meionothtas sth geitonikh xwra. Den xwrei opoiadhpote ekptwsh sto qema ayto. To mhnyma poy stelnoyme einai oti epiqymoyme thn peraiterw beltiwsh twn dimerwn sxesewn. H prospaqeia ayth apo th dikh mas pleyra den einai monodromos. Ta sygkekrimena qemata poy proekycan, tis teleytaies hmeres, me aformh thn eklogikh diadikasia, qa anaferqoyn stoys dieqneis organismoys kai asfalws qa exoyn tis analoges synepeies.

MIXAHL: Yparxei qema allaghs toy eklogikoy nomoy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, prokeimenoy na katoxyrwsoyme mia diadikasia adiamfisbhthth, oson afora to eklogiko systhma, exoyme dexqei kaqe allagh sto eklogiko systhma na isxyei apo tis meqepomenes ekloges kai oxi tis epomenes, ektos bebaia an prokycei mia symfwnia enos megaloy ariqmoy boyleytwn, twn 2/3 toy synolikoy ariqmoy twn boyleytwn. Ayto to qema, loipon, antimetwpizetai ayth thn wra sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Den exei apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh opoiodhpote allo synafes zhthma allaghs toy eklogikoy systhmatos. Kai milw bebaia gia to eklogiko systhma, oxi gia ton eklogiko nomo, giati o eklogikos nomos einai kati eyrytero. Afora kai diadikasies, dioikhtikes energeies gia th diejagwgh twn eklogwn. Ara, loipon, den yparxei tipota newtero. Menoyme se ayto poy gnwrizete.

MIXAHL: Exoyme probeblhmena stelexh toy PASOK kai ths kybernhshs poy to teleytaio diasthma epanerxontai se pagies qeseis. O k. Pagkalos sthn Kentrikh Epitroph eipe oti o monos tropos perifroyrhshs toy politikoy kosmoy einai ena meikto systhma, gia na mporesei na anabaqmistei kai poiotika, alla kai gia na perifroyrhqei apo epirroes allwn kentrwn. O k. Skandalidhs se synenteyjh toy shmera epanerxetai sto qema kai leei oti xreiazetai allagh toy eklogikoy nomoy, enw to eqese kai o k. Papantwnioy. Rwtw, loipon, to ejhs: Apokleiei h kybernhsh to endexomeno na allajei to eklogiko systhma;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh, dia stomatos Prwqypoyrgoy @gnwrizete thn omilia toy prin apo liges meres sthn K.O. toy PASOK- anaferqhke sth synolikh leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos, ston tropo me ton opoio ta politika kommata anaptyssoyn tis drasthriothtes toys kai ekane orismenes epishmanseis poy aforoyn epimeroys ptyxes toy qematos aytoy. O Prwqypoyrgos anelabe thn prwtoboylia na qesei ayto to qema, epishmainontas oti to epomeno diasthma h kybernhsh qa diatypwsei sygkekrimenh protash kai qa zhthsei apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs tis dikes toys antiprotaseis. Ara, loipon, to qema toy politikoy systhmatos, ws synoliko zhthma, apasxolei thn kybernhsh. Gia to qema ayto h kybernhsh syntoma qa diatypwsei thn eishghsh ths. Epiqymei kai ta alla kommata, me tis dikes toys proseggiseis, na symballoyn, wste na lysoyme problhmata ta opoia anadyqhkan kata thn prosfath eklogikh anametrhsh, sthn kateyqynsh na leitoyrgei to politiko systhma me thn aytonomia poy einai aparaithth gia na mhn ephreazontai apo ejwqesmika kentra h leitoyrgia twn organwn kai oi apofaseis poy lambanoyn. Ayto einai to qema kai se ayto paramenoyme. Epanalambanw oti h desmeysh poy exoyme , sto plaisio twn syzhthsewn gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, odhgei sto symperasma oti kaqe allagh qa prepei na briskei symfwnh th megalh pleiochfia twn 2/3 toy synolikoy ariqmoy twn boyleytwn.

MIXAHL: H teleytaia sas apanthsh moy dinei thn aformh na kanw kai thn trith erwthsh, ean h omofwnh apofash sthn epitroph anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos gia sygkekrimenes diatajeis, toy arqroy 54, dhladh, einai sxhma prwqystero sthn opoiadhpote ejelijh sthn olomeleia.

REPPAS: Oi qeseis ths kybernhshs exoyn diatypwqei poly prin ginei h syzhthsh ayth sthn epitroph gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. H proseggish ayth egine -epanalambanw- apo ton Prwqypoyrgo. To qema ayto qa mas apasxolhsei thn epomenh periodo, afoy diatypwsoyme ki emeis, me perissoteres leptomereies tis qeseis mas epi toy qematos kai kalesoyme kai ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs na diatypwsoyn tis dikes toys protaseis. Ayth thn wra den yparxei otidhpote allo. To mono poy yparxei einai oti oloi qewroyme pws problhmata ta opoia synanthsame stis prosfates ekloges, qa prepei na ta lysoyme, wste na mhn prokycoyn kai pali se mia epomenh eklogikh anametrhsh. Ypo ayto to prisma, loipon, kai ypo to baros ths eyqynhs poy exoyme na leitoyrgei to politiko systhma me tropo poy den epitrepei opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh, oson afora thn antikeimenikothta h th diafaneia twn leitoyrgiwn toy, qa syzhthsoyme ta sygkekrimena qemata.

BIDALH: Gia tis ekloges sthn Albania qelw na rwthsw: To YPEJ, thn perasmenh Trith, eixe proteinei th systash kai thn apostolh diakommatikhs epitrophs boyleytwn gia tis ekei ekloges. Jerete ti synebh; Fainetai oti ayth h epitroph den egine kai exoyn emfanistei memonwmenoi boyleytes.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h Epitroph Ejwterikwn kai Amynas ths ellhnikhs Boylhs apofasise na sygkrothsei klimakio me boyleytes apo ola ta koinoboyleytika kommata, prokeimenoy me thn paroysia toys sth geitonikh xwra na parakoloyqhsoyn pws qa ejelixqei h eklogikh diadikasia. Sto klimakio ayto entaxqhkan dyo boyleytes apo to kybernwn komma, enas boyleyths apo to KKE kai enas boyleyths apo to SYNASPISMO. Den dexqhkan na entaxqoyn se ayto to klimakio boyleytes apo to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, oi opoioi episkefqhkan me dikh toys prwtoboylia th geitonikh xwra kai parakoloyqhsan tis eklogikes diadikasies. Ara, anelaban kai thn eyqynh ths genikoterhs kinhshs toys entos ths Albanias. Oi epiloges einai dikes toys. Ayto to opoio moy dinei thn eykairia na pw, me aformh thn erwthsh sas, einai ayto kai mono ayto: Oi Ellhnes boyleytes, oi entagmenoi sto klimakio ths ellhnikhs Boylhs, htan parontes, exoyn kanei tis parathrhseis kai epishmanseis toys. Qa milhsoyn oi idioi gi ayto. Apo kei kai pera, oi boyleytes toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs exoyn probei se dhlwseis, me dikh toys prwtoboylia.

BIDALH: Gia to klimakio ayto eixe zhthqei h synainesh twn Tiranwn; Phgan ws parathrhtes;

REPPAS: Den eixan to rolo toy parathrhth. Eipa oti einai parontes ekei, prokeimenoy na plhroforhqoyn, apo prwto xeri, pws ejelissetai h eklogikh diadikasia kai na katagracoyn fainomena, ta opoia kata th dikh toys antilhch einai ajioshmeiwta kai prepei na anaferqoyn. Alla, bebaiws, den exoyn kamia emplokh sthn eklogikh diadikasia. Den exoyn kamia armodiothta, dhladh, giati den apoteloyn systatiko stoixeio ayths ths diadikasias. Den mporoyn na parembainoyn sthn eklogikh diadikasia, den mporoyn na eiserxontai, fer` eipein, sta eklogika tmhmata opoy proserxetai o poliths kai chfizei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote, giati phgan;

REPPAS: Phgan akribws gia na exoyn apo prwto xeri antilhch, opws ki ekproswpoi allwn forewn kai organismwn poy einai ekei, gia na plhroforhqoyn pws ejelissontai ta pragmata. Ayto den shmainei, omws, oti katalyetai h aytonomia ths geitonikhs xwras kai oti eixan th dynatothta na parembainoyn sthn eklogikh diadikasia, prokeimenoy etsi, me ton enan h ton allo tropo, na paijoyn enan rolo, peran toy roloy poy exoyn ej orismoy.

KARGOYDH: Se dhlwseis toy o Prwqypoyrgos apo to Mpiaritz, diapistwse sobaro elleimma dhmokratias sth geitonikh xwra, me aformh ta symbainonta stis eklogikes diadikasies. O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn eqese to qema stoys omologoys toy. Diapistwse analogoys sxoliasmoys apo toys 14 ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Ayto poy gnwrizoyme emeis, kat` arxas, einai oti kai oi ekproswpoi ths E.E. h allwn forewn h dieqnwn organismwn, opws einai o OASE, exoyn ki ekeinoi pragmati katagracei parabiaseis ths eklogikhs diadikasias. Kai otan se mia xwra, kata th diarkeia eklogikhs diadikasias, parathroyntai parabiaseis twn arxwn ths Dhmokratias, antilambaneste oti mporoyme na milhsoyme gia elleimma dhmokratias sth xwra ayth.

PAPADOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh meta apo ayth th filikh antimetwpish kai th synergasia poy exei me th geitonikh xwra einai eyxaristhmenh, an kanoyme enan apologismo apo ayth th synergasia me th geitonikh xwra;

REPPAS: Emeis den qa eimaste eyxaristhmenoi mexri th stigmh ekeinh poy oles oi geitonikes xwres qa apokthsoyn sygxronoys, dhmokratikoys koinoboyleytikoys qesmoys kai ena epipedo oikonomikhs anaptyjhs tetoio poy qa epitrepei stoys polites toys na zoyn ajioprepws. Gnwrizete poly kala oti se polles periptwseis yparxoyn terastia problhmata, poy prokyptoyn eite apo oikonomikh kaqysterhsh, eite apo th dysleitoyrgia twn qesmwn poy einai neopageis sta krath ayta. Gia ola ayta, emeis ws xwra ths E.E., exoyme kaqe logo na prwtostathsoyme, wste na jeperastoyn. Alla, bebaiws, to eipa kai prin ayto, oi sxeseis mas me opoiadhpote xwra kai me thn Albania, den mporei na exoyn to xarakthra monodromoy. Prokeimenoy oi sxeseis se dimeres epipedo na beltiwnontai synexws, qa prepei na symballoyn kai oi dyo pleyres pros thn idia kateyqynsh. Ayto den ginetai sto baqmo poy epiqymoyme. To epishmainoyme ayto kai pairnoyme oles tis aparaithtes pros toyto prwtoboylies.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Qa allajei dhladh h politikh pros thn Albania;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto. H politikh mas exei enan kentriko stoxo na bohqhsei, wste h perioxh ayth -ennow th Notioanatolikh Eyrwph, ta Balkania- na ginei mia perioxh, mia perifereia ths Eyrwphs, anaptygmenh, me sygxronoys qesmoys, me politikh staqerothta, me eirhnh, me kales sxeseis metajy twn kratwn. Exoyme poly dromo akomh na dianysoyme. Kai se ayto to dromo kaloyme tis alles xwres na enteinoyn thn prospaqeia toys.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den moy apanthsate, omws@

REPPAS: Apanthsa. Ayta antimetwpizontai, opws antilambaneste, oxi me thn politikh toy mikroskopioy. Ayta antimetwpizontai sthn poreia twn ejelijewn.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ws kybernhsh, den kanate enan apologismo ayths ths sxeshs;

REPPAS: O apologismos ginetai kaqe hmera, alla qa prepei -to ypainixqhka sthn prwth apanthsh poy edwsa- na elegjoyme thn katastash, na elegjoyme fainomena ta opoia mporei na odhghsoyn se epanodo se ena xrono progenestero, palaiotero, poy pragmatika mporei na pei kaneis, oti oi arnhtikes sxeseis, to kako klima metajy twn xwrwn, kaqe allo para einai kati poy epiqymoyme. Gnwrizete poly kala ti egine sthn arxh ayths ths 10etias. Exoyme dianysei, xronika kai politika arketh apostash. Qa prepei na synexisoyme ayth thn prospaqeia. Einai poly dyskolh, ta apotelesmata den erxontai pantote toso grhgora, oso qa qelame h den exoyn ayth thn poiothta poy qa qelame, alla ayth einai h prospaqeia poy prepei na kanoyme.

IWANNOY: Egw qelw na rwthsw sygkekrimena ean h kybernhsh, kat arxhn, einai qetikh sto mikto systhma ekloghs;

REPPAS: Den exei teqei se opoiodhpote organo -kybernhtiko h kommatiko- tetoio qema pros syzhthsh. Ara, einai poly prowro ayth thn wra na dwsw opoiadhpote apanthsh. To qema poy exei teqei kai exei milhsei dhmosiws o Prwqypoyrgos gi ayto, einai to sxetiko me th leitoyrgia toy politikoy systhmatos, me th leitoyrgia twn kommatwn.

KARAKWSTAS: Eklambanetai ws epideinwsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn h emplokh poy parathreitai sthn askhsh DESTINED GLORY;

REPPAS: H katastash poy exei dhmioyrgei, logw toy oti den akoloyqeitai o arxikos sxediasmos, kata thn askhsh ayth, apotelei NATOiko zhthma kai oxi dimeres. Qa prepei oi armodioi foreis toy NATO na epanaferoyn th diejagwgh ths askhshs sto arxiko plaisio ths. Ayto sto opoio symfwnhsame oloi. Einai se ejelijh oi diaboyleyseis. Pisteyoyme oti h diatagh poy qa ekdoqei shmera, kalo einai na dwsei lysh se ayth thn ekkremothta, prokeimenoy na synexistei kai na oloklhrwqei h askhsh, opws arxikws eixe sxediastei. Gnwrizete poly kala, shmera den symmetexoyme stis aeroporikes askhseis. Ayrio, an den allajei sthn kateyqynsh gia thn opoia hmoyn safhs prin, h qesh toy NATO, qa aposyrqoyme synolika apo thn askhsh.

KAPPOS: Na epistrecoyme sto Albaniko. Kanate sxolio, prohgoymenws, gia th drasthriothta parathrhtwn toy OASE. Eipate oti o OASE kategrace parabiaseis. Epeidh apo thn pleyra ths ellhnikhs meionothtas yphrjan kataggelies peri toy antiqetoy, oti dhladh parathrhtes toy OASE den htan sta pleon epikaira shmeia, qa hqela ena plhrestero sxolio apo th dikh sas pleyra.

REPPAS: Se mia perioxh opoy to eklogiko swma anerxetai se 3.000 chfoforoys, htan parontes peripoy 40 parathrhtes. O ariqmos qewreitai ikanopoihtikos, einai eparkhs. Bebaiws, den antilegw oti se kapoies periptwseis mporei na diapistwqhke apoysia paragontwn twn dieqnwn organismwn. Ayto, omws, poy exei shmasia, kai to exei plhroforhqei to YPEJ, einai oti parathrhtes jenwn organismwn exoyn, pragmati, entopisei parabiaseis ths eklogikhs diadikasias.

KAPPOS: Prohgoymenws, se apanthsh sas, eipate oti eixame eggyhseis apo thn albanikh kybernhsh, ayto to eixate pei kai thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, kai profanws diapistwsate mia anantistoixia se sxesh me tis eggyhseis kai se sxesh me o,ti synebh. Qewreite oti, pleon, mporei na mila h ellhnikh kybernhsh me thn albanikh sto idio epipedo poy miloyse kai prin apo thn Kyriakh;

REPPAS: Se oles tis apanthseis poy edwsa, periexontai stoixeia poy prepei na ikanopoioyn kai esas. Asfalws, eipa oti ayth einai mia arnhtikh ejelijh kai oti etsi ephreazontai dysmenws oi ellhno-albanikes sxeseis. An me rwtate, omws, poly sygkekrimena gia to an qa synexisoyme na syzhtoyme me thn albanikh kybernhsh, sas lew oti asfalws qa synexisoyme na syzhtoyme mazi ths.

SOYRMELH: Shmera, diatypwqhkan kathgories oti yphrjan boyleytes poy ekanan apeilhtikes dhlwseis, legontas stoys chfoforoys oti an den chfisete meionotikoys, qa exete antidraseis sthn Ellada k.t.l. Exete tetoia stoixeia; Kai ena allo poy qelw na rwthsw, posoi boyleytes apo th N.D. phgan ekei;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw posoi boyleytes htan apo th N.D. Gnwrizw oti sto klimakio poy sygkrothse h ellhnikh Boylh, den symmeteixan boyleytes ths N.D. Kai bebaiws, den mporw na anaferqw sth stash twn Ellhnwn boyleytwn ekei. Einai kati gia to opoio qa milhsoyn oi idioi kai nomizw oti, sto plaisio twn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, einai ena qema to opoio mporei na antimetwpistei ekei kai monon ekei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati h ellhnikh kybernhsh den zhthse na exei parathrhtes sthn Albania, apo th stigmh poy exoyme ekei meionothta;

REPPAS: Egine dekto na einai parontes ekei boyleytes apo to ellhniko Koinoboylio. Se aytes tis periptwseis, parathrhtes exoyn oi dieqneis Organismoi, me toys opoioys exoyn mia sxesh ta krath, anejarthtws ths baqmidas. Den einai synhqismeno fainomeno mia xwra, me epishmoys ekproswpoys ths, na parembainei sta eswterika, stis eklogikes leitoyrgies mias allhs xwras. Ayto, loipon, to opoio exei shmasia -kai ayto kratw apo thn erwthsh sas kai to sxoliazw- einai toyto: Na diasfalisoyme ta dikaiwmata ths ellhnikhs meionothtas. Exoyme, kat` epanalhch, milhsei gi` ayto. Shmera, gia mia akomh fora, epanelaba oti exoyme ola ta mesa kai qa paroyme oles tis aparaithtes prwtoboylies gia na diasfalisoyme ta dikaiwmata ths ellhnikhs meionothtas. Ta pragmata einai synqeta. Den einai toso apla. Parakalw, epeidh ayto to zhthma einai krisimo kai eqnikoy megeqoys, na to proseggizete etsi.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete pei ta idia alles pente fores kai den exei ginei tipota. Den afhnan ton kosmo na mpei sthn Albania.

REPPAS: Ola ayta exoyn epishmanqei. Alla, sas lew oti einai synqeto to qema. Exei polles ptyxes kai parakalw, gia ola ayta ta qemata, na eimaste poly prosektikoi. Fer` eipein, otan syllambanontai kapoioi omogeneis mas sthn Albania kata thn eisodo toys sth geitonikh xwra, epeidh exoyn khryxqei anypotaktoi giati den exoyn yphrethsei th qhteia toys ekei, antilambaneste pws yparxei ena qema. Ayto, bebaia, paroysiazetai apo ta MME, ws syllhch omogenwn. Oi arxes ths Albanias lene oti aytoi exoyn khryxqei anypotaktoi kai prepei na syllhfqoyn. To idio qa kaname ki emeis se mia analogh periptwsh. Qelw na pw oti yparxoyn polla qemata kai menw mono se ena paradeigma, gia na dwsw se oloys na katalaboyn oti ayto to zhthma einai shmantiko kai prepei na to antimetwpizoyme me megalh eyqynh. Ayto kanei h kybernhsh. Epanalambanw, oti ta dikaiwmata ths ellhnikhs eqnikhs meionothtas einai diasfalismena. Exoyme apolyth synergasia me toys foreis poy ekproswpoyn thn ellhnikh meionothta sthn Albania. Kanoyme o,ti kalytero se ayth thn kateyqynsh. H poreia einai epiponh, ta apotelesmata den erxontai eykola kai grhgora, alla sthn poreia ayth qa prepei na synexisoyme tis prospaqeies mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai oi gynaikes poy den tis afhnan na mpoyn, einai kai aytes anypotaktes;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi Albanoi polites poy zoyn kai ergazontai sthn Ellada, eishlqan sthn Albania, prokeimenoy na askhsoyn ta dikaiwmata toys.

KWSTANTHS: Poso problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti h palai pote qalerh koinothta twn Ellhnwn sth notia Albania einai ypo diwgmo@

REPPAS: Jerete posoi zoyn monima sta xwria ths notias Albanias, opws lete; Den gnwrizete oti zoyn kai ergazontai sthn Ellada gia na ejasfalisoyn kalyteres synqhkes zwhs, giati den exoyn th dynatothta apasxolhshs sth notia Albania; Eseis ti lete; Na toys empodisoyme thn eisodo sthn Ellada, na mhn erxontai na ergastoyn edw; Na toys ypoxrewsoyme, kleinontas ta synora, na meinoyn ekei, prokeimenoy monimws na exoyme ena shmantiko plhqysmo sth notia Albania;

KWSTANTHS: Na oloklhrwsw thn erwthsh moy. Ayth h fqinoysa poreia einai kati poy apotypwnetai se oles tis teleytaies eklogikes anametrhseis kai einai antistrofws analogh me thn oikonomikh bohqeia poy prosferei h xwra mas kai genikotera, ta bhmata proseggishs poy exei kanei. Mhpws skefteste pws einai wra na allajete politikh sta qemata omogeneias kai na antimetwpiste, kapws diaforetika, to qema ayto, alla kai tis ellhno-albanikes sxeseis;

REPPAS: H politikh poy akoloyqoyme einai symfwnh me ta eqnika symferonta. Einai politikh eyqynhs gia thn Ellada, alla kai thn eyryterh perioxh. Einai politikh poy apodidei, xwris na paragnwrizw oti pantote yparxoyn diakymanseis, pantote prokyptoyn problhmata poy prepei na antimetwpisoyme. Alla, ayto to opoio den prokeitai na epitrecoyme, einai na gyrisoyme pisw sto parelqon, se fainomena typoy Episkophs, se fainomena ektos elegxoy, poy odhgoyn tis ellhno-albanikes sxeseis se tetoia rhjh poy qa einai se baros olwn. Emeis epiqymoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme sta Balkania mia nea pragmatikothta kai prwtostatoyme se ayth thn prospaqeia.

ANTYPAS: Qelw na mas kanete mia enhmerwsh gia to empolemo, poy apo o,ti gnwrizw isxyei akoma. Exete kati kainoyrgio; Yparxei periptwsh arshs;

REPPAS: To exoyme antimetwpisei ayto to qema. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h Albania, kat` epanalhch, qetei to zhthma ayto. Emeis paramenoyme sth qesh poy exoyme pei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: An exete na mas peite kati perissotero, giati den egine h synanthsh Tzem-Panandreoy.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala pws eprokeito na ginei synanthsh twn dyo ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn kai antiproswpeiwn oikonomikwn kai koinwnikwn paragontwn kai forewn apo ta dyo krath, sth Rodo kai sth Marmarida. Den egine ayth h synanthsh. Emeis eixame diamhnysei oti to Sabbato, proxqes dhladh, qa laboyme thn telikh apofash mas, blepontas pws ejelissontai ta pragmata, doqentos oti eixe dhmioyrghqei kai ayth h emplokh sth NATOikh askhsh. Apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias eipwqhke oti h ejelijh sth Mesh Anatolh dhmioyrgei ena allo periballon kai gi` ayto akribws, qa htan dyskolo kai ston k. Tzem na parei meros se ayth th diadikasia. Etsi, apo koinoy, oi dyo pleyres symfwnhsan na anablhqei ayth h epikoinwnia, xwris na oristei nea hmeromhnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas ikanopoiei ayto oti, dhladh, yparxei to mesanatoliko kai den synanthqhkan;

REPPAS: Ayto einai to deytero poy eipa. Jexnate to prwto poy eipa.

SOYRMELH: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy empolemoy. Eixe ginei arsh toy empolemoy. Twra, eseis, etsi opws to diatypwsate, einai san na lete oti ayto menei.

REPPAS: Eipa oti menoyme sth qesh poy exoyme pei. Gnwrizete poly kala oti exei lhfqei apofash sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio gi` ayto.

SOYRMELH: Ara, exei arqei;

REPPAS: Afoy to jerete, giati epanerxeste;

SOYRMELH: To ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, meta to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias milhse gia anabolh, logw twn ejelijewn sth Mesh Anatolh kai parempiptontws, shmera o k. Mpegliths eipe oti yparxei kai ayto to qema. Eseis, etsi opws to lete twra, einai san h Toyrkia na leei gia th Mesh Anatolh, enw h Ellada, kat` arxas exei to problhma toy NATO kai meta th Mesh Anatolh.

REPPAS: Gia th sygkekrimenh synanthsh, apo mia xronikh stigmh kai meta, kai oi dyo pleyres diatypwsan th skech oti kalytera einai na metateqei xronika. Kai ayto egine.

MPEKAS: Einai qema hmerwn oi prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs gia tis allages sto eklogiko systhma;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti exei milhsei gi` ayto o Prwqypoyrgos kai einai aytos poy qa dwsei ton tono kai to ryqmo, me ton opoio ta kybernhtika organa qa asxolhqoyn kai qa antimetwpisoyn to qema ayto.

Sas eyxaristw.

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