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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela eisagwgikws na sas pw oti oi ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia einai se qetikh kateyqynsh. Noiwqoyme ikanopoihsh kai dikaiwsh, giati o rolos ths Elladas apodeixqhke xrhsimos kai epoikodomhtikos. Pisteyoyme oti oi politikes dynameis ths filhs xwras qa xeiristoyn me cyxraimia kai ypeyqynothta thn krish poy paroysiazetai ayth th metabatikh periodo, wste me eirhniko tropo, xwris bia na oloklhrwqei ayth h ejelijh. Pantote h xwra mas kai o laos mas htan sto pleyro toy gioygkoslabikoy laoy. Mia nea selida anoigei gia th Gioygkoslabia, me eyrwpaiko prosanatolismo. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth synexizoyme na ergazomaste ki emeis, opws allwste kaname mexri twra.

O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Giwrgos Papandreoy eixe seira epikoinwniwn me omologoys toy allwn xwrwn. Epikoinwnhse me to Gallo Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, ton k. Bentrin, me to Germano Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, ton k. Fisser. Eixe epikoinwnia, shmera to prwi, me ton k. Kostoynitsa. O k. Papandreoy tajideyei sto Belgio kai phgainei sthn polh Mpriz, opoy ekei leitoyrgei to legomeno Eyrwpaiko Kolegio poy einai syndedemeno me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai sto opoio proedreyei o prwhn prwqypoyrgos toy Belgioy k. Ntean. Htan kalesmenos o Prwqypoyrgos kai apo kairo eixe dhlwqei oti qa ekproswphqei apo ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, o opoios qa ekfwnhsei sxetikh omilia sto plaisio aytoy toy akadhmaikoy etoys poy exei parei to onoma toy Ellhna filosofoy Swkrath.

O Ellhnas Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn qa synexisei thn epikoinwnia toy kai me alloys omologoys toy. Entos ths hmeras isws xreiastei na metabei sto Parisi. H ellhnikh kybernhsh qa analabei prwtoboylies, sto plaisio twn prwtoboyliwn poy qa analabei h E.E., prokeimenoy ayth thn krisimh stigmh na deijoyme poso apotelesmatikoi kai xrhsimoi mporei na eimaste gia mia xwra ki ena lao.

Qelw, epishs, na sas enhmerwsw oti o Prwqypoyrgos, gia ena synafes qema poy afora thn E.E., dexqhke kai eixe synergasia me toys eyrwboyleytes k. Tsatso kai Mprok, oi opoioi ekproswpoyn to Eyrwkoinoboylio stis syzhthseis gia th Diakybernhtikh. Ekfrasthke h qesh oti h ektakth Synodos poy ginetai thn erxomenh ebdomada sto Mpiaritz ths Gallias qa prepei na dwsei shmantikh politikh wqhsh, wste sth Synodo Koryfhs ths Nikaias oi apofaseis poy qa labei h E.E., otan pleon qa einai wrima ta qemata, na einai oysiastikes, idiaiterws gia qemata poy aforoyn tis ejwterikes sxeseis ths E.E. sto xarth twn qemeliwdwn dikaiwmatwn toy atomoy.

Ayth thn wra, opws gnwrizete, exei jekinhsei h Synodos ths K.E. toy PASOK kai sto bhma brisketai o Prwqypoyrgos kai Proedros toy Kinhmatos h omilia toy opoioy einai sth diaqesh sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYIN: Mporeite na mas diabebaiwsete an ta ellhnika synora paramenoyn kleista gia ola ta atoma apo th Gioygkoslabia ta opoia den mporoyn na tajidecoyn;

REPPAS: H Ellada den prokeitai na ginei xwra ypodoxhs atomwn ta opoia isws zhtoyn politiko asylo. H ellhnikh kybernhsh sto qema ayto exei th qesh ths E.E. Apo thn prwth stigmh, me mia sxetikh diaforopoihsh apo th qesh poy phran oi alles xwres, emeis eipame oti den qa prepei na antimetwpistoyn ta eswterika problhmata ths Gioygkoslabias me thn epembash jenwn dynamewn. Eixame diafwnhsei me epiloges, opws p.x. ayth poy sxetizetai me thn parapomph toy Proedroy Milosebits sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio. Emeis pisteyoyme oti qa prepei xwris bia, me synennohsh olwn twn dynamewn, me ypeyqyno tropo @giati thn wra ths krishs fainetai h ikanothta kai h eyqynh poy diaqetei o kaqenas- oi idioi oi Gioygkoslaboi, oi ekproswpoi toys, oi hgetes toys na antimetwpisoyn ola ta problhmata.

MPEKAS: Kata thn epikoinwnia toy me ton k. Kostoynitsa o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Papandreoy kanonise na episkefqei to Beligradi;

REPPAS: Kai ayto einai ena endexomeno. H episkech toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn sth Gioygkoslabia einai pantote ena anoikto qema. O k. Papandreoy einai pantote eyprosdektos sth Gioygkoslabia. H episkech ayth mporei na ginei, efoson oi synennohseis me toys etairoys ths E.E. kai thn hgesia ths Gioygkoslabias epiballoyn mia tetoia episkech. Emeis, epanalambanw, qeloyme na exoyme ena qetiko kai epoikodomhtiko rolo. An askwntas ayto to rolo prepei o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn na episkefqei mesa sthn hmera h tis epomenes hmeres th Gioygkoslabia qa ginei kai ayto.

KALARITHS: Briskontai se ejelijh kapoies diapragmateyseis me th symmetoxh ths Elladas gia thn tyxh toy Milosebits;

REPPAS: Oi syzhthseis poy ginontai aforoyn ola ta qemata gia th metabash ths Gioygkoslabias se mia nea periodo. To sygkekrimeno qema prepei na antimetwpistei apo tis idies tis politikes dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias. Qa prepei na synennohqoyn kai na anazhthsoyn enan tetoio tropo poy na apotelei kai diejodo se mia krisimh, pragmati, ptyxh toy synolikoy problhmatos. Emeis, kratwntas ayth thn epikoinwnia me tis dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias, pisteyoyme oti einai efikto na doqei lysh kai se ayto to zhthma, xwris na dhmioyrgei mia nea phgh entasewn, mia nea phgh dhmioyrgias krishs. Pisteyoyme oti o tropos me ton opoio milhse o k. Kostoynitsa, alla kai oi energeies toy fanerwnoyn pws exei synaisqhsh ths megalhs eyqynhs poy analambanei gia na odhghsei th xwra toy thn epomenh periodo. Me ayth th synaisqhsh ths megalhs eyqynhs poy exei pisteyoyme oti qa antimetwpisei ola ta qemata kai to sygkekrimeno.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Mas eipate ti kanei to Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Qa hqela na mas peite ti kanei to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas kai an oi dynameis toy einai se epifylakh kai ti ginetai me toys foithtes poy einai sto Beligradi, giati xqes diatypwqhkan parapona oti den yphrje gi aytoys pronoia apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Qa elega oti den prepei kaqe fora na fqanoyme sthn yperbolh, giati gia polloys h kybernhsh exei ginei ena eidos ``sakoy toy mpoj''. Oloi epitiqentai sthn kybernhsh. Ta qemata ayta ta antimetwpisame kai se syskech, poy egine xqes to brady ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, o opoios exei dwsei entoles ston Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai se alloys kybernhtikoys paragontes gia na antimetwpisei o kaqenas, me ton kalytero dynato tropo, ta qemata ths armodiothtas toy.

Oson afora ta aerodromia ths xwras, politika kai stratiwtika, asfalws yparxei mia egrhgorsh twn yphresiwn gia na mh breqoyme mprosta se fainomena mh epiqymhta. Den milame gia epifylakh, milame gia mia etoimothta, mia egrhgorsh twn yphresiwn.

Oson afora toys Ellhnes foithtes prepei na sas pw oti apo tis prwtes kiolas wres eixe proparaskeyastei o kratikos mhxanismos gia na antimetwpisoyme ola ta endexomena. Na metaferoyme, dhladh, sthn Ellada an xreiastei, me aeroporika mesa -politika kai stratiwtika- toys foithtes poy spoydazoyn sth Gioygkoslabia. Elpizoyme oti ayto, opws den xreiazetai mexri twra, den qa xreiastei kai sth synexeia, giati oi ejelijeis qa einai omales kai etsi qa oloklhrwqoyn. Kata ta alla h Presbeia mas sto Beligradi exei epikoinwnia me toys Ellhnes @spoydastes kai alloys- poy zoyn ekei. Bebaiws, kaqenas poy exei kapoio problhma h xreiazetai bohqeia (plhroforhsh k. a.) qa prepei na apeyqynetai stis armodies diplwmatikes yphresies mas.

FILHS: Exete kapoia plhroforia sxetika me to an o k. Kostoynitsa exei egkatastaqei kai einai Proedros ths Gioygkoslabias;

REPPAS: O k. Kostoynitsa exei thn yposthrijh twn dynamewn ths Eyrwphs. Exei, epishs, epikoinwnia me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Rwsias, o opoios episkeptetai, meta apo entolh toy Proedroy Poytin, th Gioygkoslabia. Einai enas ajiopistos syzhthths se dieqnes epipedo. Oloi anagnwrizoyn oti h analhch, apo meroys toy, ths eyqynhs diakybernhshs ths Gioygkoslabias, ekfrazei th boylhsh toy gioygkoslabikoy laoy. Texnika h organwtika qemata, ta opoia ekkremoyn, qa antimetwpistoyn apo tis ekei dynameis.

FILHS: H presbeia mas sto Beligradi apeyqynetai kai exei sxeseis me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths kybernhshs Milosebits h me kapoioys alloys;

REPPAS: Se ayth th metabatikh fash oi diplwmatikes arxes exoyn epikoinwnia me oles tis politikes dynameis, me oloys ekeinoys toys paragontes poy diadramatizoyn shmantiko rolo stis ejelijeis kai odhgoyn th Gioygkoslabia se mia nea periodo. Me oloys exei epikoinwnia.

BIDALH: Milhsate gia thn tyxh toy Milosebits kai eipate pws pisteyete oti einai efikto na doqei lysh. Yparxei sygkekrimenh ellhnikh protash, exei diatypwqei;

REPPAS: To qema ayto -eipame- apotelei mia ptyxh toy synolikoy problhmatos. Opws to synolo twn qematwn, etsi kai to sygkekrimeno, qa prepei na to antimetwpisoyn oi politikes dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias me cyxraimo kai ypeyqyno tropo. Pisteyoyme oti o Kostoynitsa exei dwsei deigmata grafhs, wste na dikaiologeitai apo meroys mas h aisiodojia pws kai ayto to epimeroys zhthma, qa antimetwpistei me ton kalytero, gia ta symferonta ths Gioygkoslabias kai toy gioygkoslabikoy laoy, tropo.

SOYRMELH: O k. Rontos ejakoloyqei na einai sto Beligradi;

REPPAS: Malista.

SOYRMELH: @kai synomilei gia to tajidi toy k. Papandreoy sto Beligradi h metexei se alles diergasies; Poioys blepei ekei;

REPPAS: O k. Rontos brisketai ekei sto plaisio mias allhs apostolhs. Gnwrizete oti, edw kai para polloys mhnes, apo tote poy jespase h megalh krish sth Gioygkoslabia, h Ellada exei analabei prwtoboylies. O rolos toy k. Rontoy entassetai sto plaisio aytwn twn prwtoboyliwn gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn kai th diathrhsh enos diayloy epikoinwnias me th Gioygkoslabia, prokeimenoy na bohqhsoyme sthn epanafora ths xwras se omales politikes synqhkes. Sas eipa akomh oti o k. Papandreoy exei apeyqeias epikoinwnia me omologoys toy kai me ton k. Kostoynitsa, shmera to prwi. Exei milhsei, epishs, me paragontes twn ekei politikwn dynamewn, wste na exei mia plhrh eikona, enocei twn synergasiwn poy qa exei me toys omologoys sthn E.E. gia na xarajoyn apo koinoy ta epomena bhmata ths E.E.

MOYRTZHS: Yphrjan fhmes oti xqes petajan apo to Beligradi tria ANTONOF pros agnwsth kateyqynsh. To erwthma moy einai ean zhthqhke adeia dieleyshs apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro h prosgeiwshs se diko mas aerodromio, politiko h stratiwtiko;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizoyme an exoyn ginei tetoies pthseis aeroskafwn typoy ANTONOF, para to oti kati sxetiko anaferetai sth xqesinh eidhseografia. Pantws, oi ellhnikes yphresies den exoyn asxolhqei me otidhpote sxetiko. Kai -epeidh yphrje shmera kai mia allh fhmh- prosqesw oti den exei prosgeiwqei se ellhniko aerodromio, oyte exei zhthqei na prosgeiwqoyn se ellhniko aerodromio stratiwtika aeroskafh, ta opoia proerxontai apo th Gioygkoslabia.

KOYRTAKHS: O Eyrwboyleyths ths N.D. k. Xatzhdakhs kataggellei sthn Epitroph Metaforwn ths Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy oti yparxei porisma symfwna me to opoio yparxei anasfaleia stis pthseis twn Makedonikwn Aerogrammwn. Gnwrizei to qema h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh gnwrizei to qema kai oi armodies yphresies exoyn apanthsei. Ayto poy mporw na sas pw, oso pio synoptika ginetai sto plaisio ths politikhs enhmerwshs, einai toyto: Den tiqetai qema pragmatikhs asfaleias gia tis pthseis twn Makedonikwn Aerogrammwn. To qema entopizetai sto oti egxeiridia ta opoia epanasyntassontai kai epanekdidontai kai dianemontai stoys epibates den yphrjan se kapoies pthseis. H synthrhsh twn aeroskafwn twn Makedonikwn Aerogrammwn ginetai sth texnikh bash ths O.A., h opoia anagnwrizetai dieqnws ws para poly kalh. Oi pilotoi einai apo toys kalyteroys, einai ikanotatoi. Oydepote yphrje qema gia thn ajiosynh toys. Qa elega oti oi Makedonikes Aerogrammes, epeidh exoyn epitelesei ena shmantiko ergo, ginontai syxna stoxos kritikhs, apo kykloys h symferonta poy exoyn kapoio sygkekrimeno logo. Gi ayto, qa prepei na eimaste poly prosektikoi otan diatypwnoyme kathgories, xwris na yparxei h analogh aitia gia toso sobares kataggelies.

XARDALOYPAS: Shmera to prwi yphrje mia fhmh oti o Prwqypoyrgos synanthqhke ek neoy me thn ka Aggelopoyloy. Alhqeyei ayth h fhmh;

REPPAS: Kamia sxesh me thn alhqeia. H ka Aggelopoyloy meta th xqesinh syzhthsh, enhmerwse ton Prwqypoyrgo oti qa leicei gia peripoy mia ebdomada sto Londino, giati qelei na dei ta paidia ths, thn oikogeneia ths kai qa epanelqei sthn Aqhna gia na synexistei h synergasia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Paramenei, dhladh, h ka Daskalakh sth qesh ths;

REPPAS: Akribws, opws to lete.

FILHS: Apo th xqesinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn ka Daskalakh den yphrjan anakoinwseis. To lew se antiqesh me alles fores poy htan lalistatoi oloi. Yparxei kapoia epishmh enhmerwsh, pera apo thn adeia poy zhthse kai elabe h ka Daskalakh;

REPPAS: Ekdoqhke sxetikh anakoinwsh. H syzhthsh htan ef olhs ths ylhs. H gnwsh, h empeiria meta thn oloklhrwsh ths Olympiadas toy Sidnei, etsi opws h ka Aggelopoyloy-Daskalakh mporoyse na th sympyknwsei se mia anafora ths pros ton Prwqypoyrgo, htan to antikeimeno ths xqesinhs syzhthshs. Kata ta alla, h synergasia synexizetai. Gnwrizete oti eixame aytes tis ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia, poy edwsan mia allh troph sto programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy, to opoio -metajy twn allwn- symperielabe kai ayth th syskech gia thn opoia sas milhsa prin.

FILHS: H kybernhsh problhmatizetai apo tis kataggelies gia spatalh diaxeirish toy dhmosioy xrhmatos, sto plaisio ths Olympiadas, gia enoikiash xwrwn;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti otan yparxoyn tetoia problhmata kata thn apoch kapoiwn, qa prepei panta na epidiwketai h diastayrwsh twn stoixeiwn. Na apeyqynontai stis armodies phges, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyn pws exoyn ta qemata. H anakoinwsh poy ejedwse o Organismos 2004 -ston opoio sas parepemca xqes- dinei apanthseis se ayta ta qemata. H diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai mia eqnikh ypoqesh, einai ena para poly dyskolo ergo, to exoyme pei kat epanalhch. Qa prepei na bohqhsoyme toys anqrwpoys ekeinoys -eite einai sth kybernhsh, eite sthn organwtikh epitroph, eite alloy- na kanoyn swsta th doyleia toys. Poly perissotero, otan, gia thn Olympiada, oloi prepei na ergastoyme, oloi exoyme na kanoyme doyleia. Den prepei, loipon, me aformh kapoies apoceis h diaforetikes proseggiseis epi diaforwn qematwn, na xrhsimopoioyntai ola ayta ws bash gia kathgories kai gia kritikh. Giati, antilambaneste oti, dhmioyrgeitai ena klima poy dyskoleyei para poly thn prospaqeia poy kanoyn ekeinoi oi opoioi exoyn analabei na feroyn se peras ena poly shmantiko gia th xwra mas ergo.

FILHS: H ypoqesh twn skandalwdwn misqwn poy brisketai;

REPPAS: Ayto to antimetwpizei o armodios ypoyrgos Q. Pagkalos, me thn ka Aggelopoyloy. O idios -gnwrizete poly kala- einai aytos poy qa qesei thn ypografh toy. Sas lew oti den yparxei kanena problhma.

FILHS: Ti ennoeite ``kanena problhma'';

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena problhma. Epeidh anaptyxqhke, kata thn prohgoymenh periodo, mia syzhthsh gia tis apodoxes, sas lew oti gia ayta ta qemata ton teliko logo ton exei o ypoyrgos Politismoy. Den tiqetai, loipon, kanena qema kai oloi qa synexisoyn na kanoyn th doyleia toys kata ton kalytero tropo.

KOYIN: Epeidh eipate ki eseis na apeyqynqoyme stis armodies yphresies, apeyqynqhka shmera to prwi sto Ypoyrgeio Politismoy kai den hjeran to qema, oyte dieceysan, oyte epibebaiwsan arketa dhmosieymata toy Typoy shmera oti o k. Pagkalos proteine kai dexqhke o Prwqypoyrgos, se synennohsh me thn ka Aggelopoyloy, na meiwqoyn oi misqoi kata 50%. Alhqeyei ayto;

REPPAS: To qema ayto to antimetwpizei o ypoyrgos Politismoy. Den exei kleisei akomh to qema. H apofash qa einai toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy. Einai safes ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me aformh th xqesinh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn ka Aggelopoyloy, giati den egine enhmerwsh meta; Dhladh, otan exei synanthseis o Prwqypoyrgos qa enhmerwnei toys dhmosiografoys o k. Mpiqas;

REPPAS: Apanthsa stis erwthseis aytes. Ekdoqhke anakoinwsh apo to Grafeio Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Isws den sas ikanopoiei, alla anakoinwsh ekdoqhke.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi dhmosiografoi enhmerwqhkan apo ton k. Mpiqa.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti o k. Mpiqas einai enas poly ergatikos synadelfos sas. Qigete thn eysyneidhsia toy me ton tropo poy qetete thn erwthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Allo to ena, allo to allo. Kai kati akoma: Yparxei kapoio diabhma apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh pros thn Amerikanikh Presbeia gia ayta poy eipe o k. Mperns gia thn Ellada;

REPPAS: O k. Mperns eipe polla gia ta sxetika qemata. Metajy twn allwn, anaferqhke sthn pepoiqhsh toy oti qa diorganwqei h Olympiada toy 2004 me epityxh tropo apo thn Ellada kai ston tomea ths diasfalishs synqhkwn apolyths asfaleias gia toys polites, toy episkeptes, toys aqlhtes kai oles tis olympiakes apostoles. Polla apo osa eipe -ta opoia apoteloysan mia poly qetikh proseggish gia ta qemata asfaleias ths epomenhs Olympiadas- den paroysiasthkan apo to sygkekrimeno thleoptiko staqmo. Den eyqynetai gi` ayto o k. Mperns, o opoios diabebaiwse oti ton adikei o tropos me ton opoio paroysiasthkan oi apoceis toy, sto programma ayto, giati den apodoqhkan, sto synolo toys, osa o idios eipe sto synolo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poion diabebaiwse;

REPPAS: Epikoinwnhse me ton k. Xrysoxoidh, me emena, me to diplwmatiko grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Edwse se oloys mia safh ejhghsh gia to ti akribws eipe. Allwste, gia ta qemata ayta, yparxei kai apanthsh toy ekproswpoy toy Steit Ntipartment, se sxetikh erwthsh, poy epanerxetai legontas akribws, oti den egine synolikh anafora stis apoceis toy k. Mperns apo to sygkekrimeno thleoptiko staqmo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto sygkekrimeno thleoptiko staqmo qa ginei kapoia parembash;

REPPAS: Tote qa eprepe na kleisoyme oles tis efhmerides kai oloys toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys sthn Ellada, an kanoyme tetoies parembaseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den lew na kanete parembash, alla epanorqwsh.

REPPAS: Lypoymai poy to lete ayto.

FILHS: Meta thn antidrash twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs sth Boylh, qelw na rwthsw, an qa epimeinei h kybernhsh sthn tropologia gia tis dikes "ejpres".

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti mas exei apasxolhsei, kat` epanalhch, o xronos entos toy opoioy oloklhrwnontai oi diadikasies gia thn aponomh dikaiosynhs. H taxythta sto xrono aponomhs dikaiosynhs einai shmantiko qema sth xwra mas. To gnwrizete oloi ayto. Proxwrhsame se ayth thn tropologia, thn opoia anakoinwse sth synedriash ths K.O. o Prwqypoyrgos, me prwtoboylia toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs. Pisteyoyme oti h kritikh poy askeitai einai apolytws adikh. Den prokeitai gia syntomeysh twn diadikasiwn diejagwghs mias dikhs, alla gia thn kata proteraiothta ekdikash mias ypoqeshs idiazontos endiaferontos. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh.

FILHS: An exete kapoio sxolio gia thn apanthsh poy edwse o armodios epitropos sthn erwthsh toy k. Papagiannakh, sxetika me th bradythta me thn opoia h kybernhsh ajiopoiei, dhladh den ajiopoiei oysiastika, ta kondylia apo to G' K.P.S.

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti eimaste prwtoporoi sthn ajiopoihsh twn kondyliwn. Exoyme pei -to syzhthsame, allwste, kai se teleytaia synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy- oti xrhsimopoiwntas eqnikoys poroys, qa "trejoyme" ta erga poly grhgora. Kataqetoyme, pleon, to programma me thn eswterikh diarqrwsh toy, kata tomea kai kata perifereia, poly syntoma, se liges ebdomades. Ejasfalizoyme, etsi thn telikh egkrish, wste apo to 2001 to programma ayto na teqei se efarmogh. Sas diabebaiwnw parallhla oti draseis toy G' K.P.S. oti hdh exoyn perasei sto stadio ths efarmoghs. Den tiqetai tetoio qema. Asfalws, exoyme, se sygkrish me to B' K.P.S., mia allagh sto plaisio to opoio qa isxysei. Pisteyoyme oti h ypodomh poy dhmioyrgoyme, me nea sxhmata -ta anakoinwsame ayta meta th sxetikh synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy- qa bohqhsei, me poly kalytero tropo apo o,ti synebh me to B' K.P.S., wste na ajiopoihsoyme toys poroys toy G' K.P.S.

FILHS: Me bash ta stoixeia gia to 2000, epishmws h Komision leei oti exoyme desmeysei molis to 5% twn kondyliwn poy dikaioymaste.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti ayta ta programmata einai pantote, as to pw etsi, "opisqobarh", giati qa prepei na ginoyn oles oi ergasies proetoimasias, oi apallotriwseis, oi meletes, h dioikhtikh ypodomh. Bebaiws, ta erga xrhmatodotoyntai kanonika. To megalytero, omws, pososto aporrofhtikothtas prokyptei sthn telikh fash toy ergoy poy qa einai to 2005-2006.

FILHS: Ta xrhmata ta opoia h kybernhsh fanhke anikanh na desmeysei mexri stigmhs apo to G' K.P.S., opws leei h Komision, an den doqoyn mexri telos toy etoys, metaferontai se allo etos;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh, oxi mono den einai anikanh na ajiopoihsei toys poroys poy exei sth diaqesh ths, alla einai ikanotath kai ayto apodeiknyetai apo to oti, para thn apaisiodojh proseggish kai thn epipolaih kritikh poy askhsan ola ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs ekeinh thn periodo, ejasfalise dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Berolinoy, ena shmantiko poso poy den exei prohgoymeno gia anaptyjiaka programmata sthn Ellada. Tote, kapoioi eipan oti den qa yparxei G' K.P.S. Petyxame kai yphrje G' K.P.S. Otan egine gnwsto oti qa yparxei G' K.P.S. h antipoliteysh, sto synolo ths, eipe oti qa ypoleipontai oi poroi, se sxesh bebaiws me to B' K.P.S. kai ara oi dynatothtes qa einai periorismenes gia thn Ellada. Oi poroi jeperasan kaqe prosdokia, giati htan epityxestates oi diapragmateyseis poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh. To plaisio, basei toy opoioy qa ajiopoihqoyn aytoi oi poroi, einai diaforetiko se sxesh me ayto poy isxyse kata thn ajiopoihsh twn porwn toy B' K.P.S. H Ellada einai ayth poy qa apofasizei, pleon, thn entajh sygkekrimenwn ergwn, drasewn mesa se ayto to programma. Den qa xreiazetai, dhladh, proegkrish apo thn E.E. H Ellada qa xrhmatodotei, symfwna me to pososto ths symmetoxhs ths, ta erga, tis draseis aytes. Kai ek twn ysterwn, qa elegxei h E.E. ean kalws entaxqhke ena ergo, mia drash sto programma kai qa xrhmatodotei, efoson kalws entaxqhke h qa arneitai xrhmatodothsh, efoson kakws egine h epilogh kai entajh enos sygkekrimenoy ergoy. Emeis, loipon, proxwroyme me proxrhmatodothsh apo eqnikoys poroys Sas lew, loipon, oti eimaste xronika epikairoi, eimaste entos toy plaisioy kai twn desmeysewn poy exoyme analabei. Den dikaiologeitai ayth h kritikh. Afhste na proxwrhsei ayto to programma kai otan oloklhrwqei qa ta syzhthsoyme pali.

TSAFOS: Na rwthsw kati se sxesh me to Milosebits. Isxyei kai gia thn Ellada ayto poy isxyei gia oles tis alles xwres ths E.E. oti yparxei dieqnes entalma syllhchs kai an, par` elpida, o Milosebits erqei sthn Ellada@

REPPAS: Nai. Mia tetoia ejelijh den einai epiqymhth. H Ellada den prosferei to edafos ths, ta aerodromia ths gia episkech paragontwn ths ypo ton k. Milosebits hgesias. Ayto einai safes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti h ka Aggelopoyloy, me tis armodiothtes poy exei, xreiazetai ki alles gia na ferei se peras to ergo ths;

REPPAS: Exei symfwnhqei to plaisio entos toy opoioy anaptyssei drasthriothta h Organwtikh Epitroph toy 2004 kai h ka Aggelopoyloy.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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