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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 9 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis epomenes hmeres.

Ayth thn wra, dexetai thn olympiakh apostolh, sto Megaro Majimoy, sto plaisio mias timhtikhs teleths.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, qa exei synergasia me ton k. Papantwnioy kai ton k. Fwtiadh gia qemata forologikhs politikhs. Argotera, stis 13.00, qa synergastei me thn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn kai alloys paragontes, enocei ths Atyphs Synodoy Koryfhs sto Mpiaritz ths Gallias. To apogeyma, stis 7, qa proedreysei se syskech, sthn opoia qa symmetasxoyn h ka Basw Papandreoy, o k. G. Papantwnioy, o k. Kaiserlhs kai o k. Drys, me antikeimeno ton Proypologismo, h katartish toy opoioy einai se ejelijh. Opws exoyme pei, prokeitai na katateqei entos toy Noembrioy.

Thn Tetarth, to prwi, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me antikeimeno syzhthshs th balkanikh politikh, idiaiterws ta qemata twn dieqnwn oikonomikwn sxesewn sto dieqnes periballon mas. Stis 8 to brady, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei to Rwso ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Igkor Ibanof, o opoios episkeptetai th xwra mas. Epishs, qa symmetasxei sthn ekdhlwsh pros timh twn olympionikwn poy organwnei h Boylh twn Ellhnwn.

Thn Pempth, anaxwrei h apostolh, ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo, gia th Gallia, prokeimenoy na labei meros sthn Atyph Synodo Koryfhs.

Gnwrizete oti o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy oloklhrwse thn episkech toy sth Gioygkoslabia. Exoyn ginei sxetikes dhlwseis. Shmera, brisketai sto Loyjemboyrgo, pairnontas meros sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn. Gia th Gioygkoslabia, prokeitai na lhfqoyn shmera poly shmantikes apofaseis, poy aforoyn thn arsh toy ``empargko'' sto petrelaio, opws epishs, thn arsh toy ``empargko'' stis pthseis. Pisteyoyme oti mia nea hmera exei jhmerwsei gia th Gioygkoslabia. Ekfrazoyme kai pali thn ikanopoihsh mas gi ayth thn ejelijh. Oi politikes dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias, o gioygkoslabikos laos, qa prepei me aisqhma eyqynhs, me cyxraimia, me gnwmona to symferon ths Gioygkoslabias na antimetwpisoyn epimeroys ptyxes toy problhmatos metabashs sth nea periodo.

Telos, oson afora to Mesanatoliko, pisteyoyme oti oles oi dynameis prepei na deijoyn aytosygkrathsh, prepei na epanelqoyn sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn. Qa prepei na prowqhqei h lysh sto Mesanatoliko me apofygh ths bias, xwris prajeis h energeies poy dynamitizoyn ena klima poy einai aparaithto na yparxei, prokeimenoy oi synomilies na einai gonimes kai apodotikes. Emeis, ws xwra, sto plaisio twn dieqnwn prwtoboyliwn, paramenoyme se ayth th qesh. Pisteyoyme oti oi amesa endiaferomenoi, aytoi oi opoioi syzhtoyn, prepei na syzhthsoyn oysiastika gia ola ta qemata, xwris th xrhsh bias.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Poia einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs gia thn tyxh h gia to politiko mellon toy Slompotan Milosebits;

REPPAS: Sxetikes dhlwseis exei kanei o idios o Proedros ths Gioygkoslabias k. Kostoynitsa. Emeis pisteyoyme oti ayto to qema qa prepei na antimetwpistei apo tis politikes dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias, sto plaisio toy dialogoy, o opoios anaptyssetai ekei gia ta problhmata ths epomenhs hmeras poy prepei na antimetwpistoyn. Den einai qema proteraiothtas. Ayth htan h qesh poy ejefrase o k. Kostoynitsa. Qewroyme oti oi dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias qa prepei na antimetwpisoyn ayto to zhthma san ena eswteriko qema ths xwras, ypo to fws malista twn teleytaiwn ejelijewn, ypo thn kalopisth, bebaiws, proseggish poy prepei na kanoyn oloi, prokeimenoy h Gioygkoslabia na epityxei ena staqero politiko periballon, gia na epidiwjei, en synexeia, thn anasygkrothsh kai thn anaptyjh ths. Gnwrizete oti emeis ws kybernhsh, apo thn arxh kiolas, eixame diaforopoihqei se sxesh me protaseis h fwnes poy miloysan gia parapompes se dieqnh dikasthria kai alla synafh. Qewroyme oti ayto to qema qa prepei na to antimetwpisoyn oi politikes dynameis ths Gioygkoslabias. Einai eswteriko ths qema kai zhtoyme apo oloys na symbaloyn, wste h nea kybernhsh, h nea politikh ejoysia, na kanei toys katallhloys xeirismoys, wste kai dikaiosynh na apodoqei, alla kai na edraiwqei apolytws h dhmokratikh ayth allagh sth filh xwra.

MIXAHL: : Sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, opws mas eipate, prokeitai na ginei toylaxiston h arsh toy ``empargko'' sto petrelaio kai stis aeroporikes pthseis pros th Gioygkoslabia. H ellhnikh pleyra exei ws protash th xrhmatodothsh ths Gioygkoslabias, me sygkekrimena programmata, gia na kataskeyasei ypodomes poy eplhghsan apo toys bombardismoys;

REPPAS: Pragmati, h Gioygkoslabia -milhsa prin gia thn anasyntajh, anasygkrothsh kai oikonomikh anaptyjh ths xwras ayths- exei pleon oles tis proypoqeseis na proseggisei thn E.E. H Dieqnhs Koinothta einai etoimh na dexqei stoys kolpoys ths th Gioygkoslabia, meta th lhjh twn metrwn poy exoyn lhfqei. Asfalws, merika metra paramenoyn se isxy, opws p.x. ayto poy afora tis qewrhseis eisodoy kai ejodoy. H Ellada exei zhthsei kai symfwnei h E.E. se ayto, h Gioygkoslabia na entaxqei, pleon, sto Symfwno Staqerothtas kai na symmetasxei se ola ta programmata, ta opoia, metajy twn allwn, periexoyn sygkekrimenes xrhmatodothseis gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn. H Gioygkoslabia einai ena shmantiko tmhma ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, einai xwra twn Balkaniwn. Asfalws, qa einai paroysa se aytes tis ejelijeis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia ton Milosebits, eipate oti einai eswteriko qema. An o Milosebits erqei edw, h Ellada ti qa kanei; Qa ton paradwsei;

REPPAS: Apanthsa emmesws, se prohgoymenh erwthsh. Eipa oti to ``empargko'', oson afora tis qewrhseis eisodoy kai ejodoy paramenei se isxy. Ayto shmainei oti stelexh ths Gioygkoslabias, ta opoia perilambanontai se ayto ton katalogo, metajy twn opoiwn kai o k. Milosebits -o ariqmos einai peripoy 300 atoma- den mporoyn asfalws na metakinhqoyn se xwres ths E.E. Den ginetai dekth h eisodos toys se aytes tis xwres, metajy twn opoiwn kai sthn Ellada. Hmoyn safhs kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres, alla kai shmera, me ayto poy eipa oti tetoio qema den antimetwpizoyme.

ARGYROS: Gnwrizete ean doqhke diabebaiwsh ston prwhn Proedro Milosebits gia na paradwsei thn ejoysia oti den qa kinhqoyn oi diadikasies apo to Dikasthrio ths Xaghs kai an epaije rolo se ayth th diadikasia kapoios Ellhnas diplwmaths;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw poies syzhthseis, poies synennohseis, exoyn ginei sto eswteriko ths Gioygkoslabias, metajy twn politikwn dynamewn. Paramenw sth qesh oti h boylhsh toy gioygkoslabikoy laoy einai sebasth. Proedros anelabe o k. Kostoynitsa. To apotelesma twn eklogwn egine dekto apo oles tis pleyres. O Proedros Kostoynitsa exei ierarxhsei tis energeies poy prepei na kanei. Metajy aytwn, nomizw, oti kapoia stigmh kai me ton kalytero tropo, me bash to symferon ths xwras toy, qa antimetwpisei kai to sygkekrimeno qema.

ALEJAKH: Xqes, to brady, eida mia synenteyjh ths kas Aggelopoyloy ston k. Pretenterh, sthn opoia emmesws plhn safws ypogrammise th diaqesh ths, opws to eisepraja egw, na analabei ena ypoyrgeio Olympiadas. Sas rwtw, epeidh fainetai oti yparxoyn polla qemata se ekkremothta -toylaxiston, ayto afhse na ennohqei h ka Aggelopoyloy- ean einai stis skeceis ths kybernhshs na dhmioyrghsei ena ypoyrgeio Olympiadas kai na to anaqesei sthn ka Aggelopoyloy;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei se ayth thn erwthsh, kat` epanalhch. Ta osa exoyme pei den allazoyn se tipota. Parakalw na meinete se ayta poy exoyme anakoinwsei.

ALEJAKH: H apanthsh sas, thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, htan oti den tiqetai tetoio qema. Ejakoloyqei na isxyei;

REPPAS: Kai thn prohgoymenh kai thn pro prohgoymenh. Bebaiws, isxyei.

ALEJAKH: O Proedros ths amerikanikhs Epitrophs Olympiakwn Agwnwn arxizei kai diatypwnei kapoies apoceis stis HPA, oi opoies metaferontai edw gia thn asfaleia twn amerikanwn aqlhtwn. Dhladh, o kyrios aytos arxizei kai diatypwnei epifylajeis gia to kata poso mporei na einai asfaleis oi amerikanoi aqlhtes, to 2004, poy qa erqoyn sthn Aqhna. Malista, plhrofories lene oti exei paraxwrhsei, hdh, mia synenteyjh gia aytes tis epifylajeis sto Lari Kingk, h opoia qa metadoqei tis epomenes hmeres. Exete kapoio sxolio gyrw apo ayto h gyrw apo th filologia poy arxizei na anaptyssetai stis HPA gia thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn;

REPPAS: Qa elega na mh dinoyme megalytero baros apo ayto poy exoyn tetoioy eidoys topoqethseis. Oi Olympiakoi Agwnes toy 2004 qa ginoyn sthn Ellada se synqhkes plhroys asfaleias gia toys polites, gia oloys osoi breqoyn sthn patrida mas ekeinh thn periodo, me ton enan h allo tropo, gia na symmetasxoyn h parakoloyqhsoyn toys Olympiakes Agwnes. Pantws, oi Olympiakoi Agwnes toy 2004 qa einai pio asfaleis apo toys Olympiakoys Agwnes sthn Atlanta to 1996.

ALEJAKH: Etsi opws ejelissetai h katastash kai h proetoimasia ths ellhnikhs pleyras, nomizete oti ejakoloyqei na yparxei kindynos na xaqoyn oi agwnes h to apokleiete teleiws;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme dianysei mia poly megalh apostash. H ypodomh poy apaiteitai gia thn organwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn einai etoimh se poly megalo pososto. Prepei na antimetwpisoyme alla epimeroys dioikhtikoy xarakthra problhmata. Exoyme to xrono sth diaqesh mas gia na petyxoyme thn kalyterh dynath lysh sta opoia problhmata paramenoyn akomh ekkremh. Pisteyoyme, apolytws, oti oydeis mporei na sterhsei apo thn Ellada, apo thn Aqhna, th xara kai th dynatothta na diorganwsei ena toso megalo aqlhtiko kai epikoinwniako gegonos. Poly perissotero, poy h Aqhna exei oles tis proypoqeseis, prosferei ola ta exeggya gia thn organwsh ths Olympiadas me aristo tropo. Ara, tetoio qema den yfistatai.

PITTARAS: Skeftetai o Prwqypoyrgos na proxwrhsei se diarqrwtikes kinhseis eite se proswpa, eite se politikes, meta ta osa teqhkan sthn Kentrikh Epitroph apo ta stelexh toy kommatos;

REPPAS: Ayta einai qemata ta opoia antimetwpizontai sto plaisio twn leitoyrgiwn toy Kinhmatos. H Kentrikh Epitroph einai ena syllogiko organo to opoio leitoyrgei me apolyta dhmokratikoys oroys. Kaqe stelexos ekfrazei tis apoceis toy. O Prwqypoyrgos ayto poy eixe kai exei ypoxrewsh na kanei einai na prowqhsei kai na anadeijei thn politikh poy exei apofasistei, sto plaisio twn kybernhtikwn organwn, alla kai twn organwn ths kommatikhs kaqodhghshs. Gnwrizete poia einai ta qemata ta opoia exoyme protajei, sto plaisio ths qhteias mas, meta tis ekloges: H antimetwpish toy megaloy problhmatos ths anergias, poy einai mastiga gia thn ellhnikh koinwnias, h beltiwsh twn yphresiwn toy dhmosioy tomea, h anabaqmish ths paideias, h beltiwsh twn parexomenwn yphresiwn stoys polites apo to ESY kai bebaiws, h anasygkrothsh ths ellhnikhs ypaiqroy. Ayta, kata kyrio logo, einai ta kefalaia politikhs sta opoia exoyme epikentrwsei to endiaferon mas. Ayto prepei na kanoyme emeis, ws melh ths kybernhshs kai stelexh toy PASOK. Kai bebaiws, sthn prospaqeia ayth qa prepei na symballoyn, na symmetasxoyn oloi oi polites, giati oloys toys afora h beltiwsh toy epipedoy twn parexomenwn yphresiwn se aytoys toys tomeis.

GIAKOYMHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean o Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos apo tis kommatikes diadikasies ths synedriashs ths K.E..

REPPAS: Den qa syzhthsoyme, edw, qemata leitoyrgias toy Kinhmatos. Gnwrizete poly kala oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai ikanopoihmenos otan to komma leitoyrgei kai oi diadikasies poy ejelissontai ekei einai dhmokratikes kai odhgoyn se apofaseis poy einai orqes. Alla, bebaiws, epeidh exoyme poly dromo mprosta mas akomh gia thn oloklhrwsh ths qhteias ayths ths kybernhshs, antilambanomaste pws prepei na kanoyme kai pollh doyleia gia na antapokriqoyme sthn entolh toy laoy. Ayto einai poy mas kanei na kinoymaste se mia orismenh kateyqynsh. Koitame mprosta, den dinoyme maxes opisqofylakhs. Asfalws, h kritikh epishmansh, apo opoy ki an proerxetai, einai xrhsimh kai ajiopoihsimh. Ayto poy exei shmasia, omws, einai toyto: Na exoyme mprosta mas jekaqaroys toys stoxoys gia thn epiteyjh twn opoiwn mas chfise o ellhnikos laos. Kai epikefalhs ayths ths prospaqeias einai o Proedros toy Kinhmatos kai Prwqypoyrgos ths xwras. Kai bebaia, me th symbolh olwn twn stelexwn, qa petyxoyme aytoys toys stoxoys.

TAKHS: Sthn idia synenteyjh h ka Aggelopoyloy eipe oti, sta tria xronia, apo to 1997 mexri shmera, den egine tipota, oyte kan proetoimasthke h paroysia ths Elladas sto Sidnei. Kai eipe oti, an h Aqhna den thrhsei to symbolaio poy ypegrace me th DOE, mporei na ths parei toys agwnes. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Anaferqhke se ena teleiws qewrhtiko h ypoqetiko endexomeno. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, ws epikefalhs ths Epitrophs "2004", h ka Aggelopoyloy kataballei terastia prospaqeia na kalycoyme tyxon yparxonta kena kai bebaiws, na eimaste etoimoi thn katallhlh stigmh gia mia artia Olympiada. Kai ayto qa ginei.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia tis kinhtopoihseis kai gia osa lene ta swmateia twn ergazomenwn kai oi ekproswpoi toys, peri anelastikothtas ths kybernhshs sto qema twn newn ergasiakwn sxesewn.

REPPAS: Gia shmantika qemata, opws ayto ths antimetwpishs ths anergias, h kybernhsh exei diatypwsei thn protash ths. Einai se ejelijh o dialogos, metajy ths kybernhshs kai twn koinwnikwn forewn, prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme, an einai dynato me symfwnia -ayto epidiwkoyme, ayto epiqymoyme- se protaseis poy mporei na apotelesoyn kai th lysh gi` ayta ta qemata. Pisteyw oti oi ergazomenoi kinhtopoioyntai me eyaisqhsia, epeidh akribws, antimetwpizoyn sthn kaqhmerinh zwh kai sthn ergasia toys problhmata. Logiko einai na anadeiknyoyn ayta ta problhmata kai na zhtoyn thn kalyterh dynath antimetwpish toys. H kybernhsh blepei ta pragmata me to idio prisma. Qelei antimetwpish aytwn twn problhmatwn. Asfalws, h syzhthsh gia to 35wro qa prepei na synexistei. Den eimaste wrimoi na paroyme mia apofash, ayth thn wra. Apo thn allh, omws, qemata poy aforoyn thn katapolemhsh ths anergias, qa prepei na ta antimetwpisoyme, giati exoyn ena epeigonta xarakthra. Emeis exoyme diatypwsei tis protaseis mas. H diadikasia toy dialogoy einai se ejelijh. Asfalws, qa prepei, ston orato xroniko orizonta, na lhfqoyn oi telikes apofaseis kai h eyqynh anhkei, kyriws sthn Kybernhsh poy qa prepei na parei aytes tis apofaseis. Pisteyoyme, omws, oti o dialogos aytos, etsi opws ejelissetai, otan oloklhrwqei qa exei odhghsei se symptwsh apocewn, an oxi kaq` oloklhrian, toylaxiston sto megalytero tmhma twn qematwn poy mas apasxoloyn, prokeimenoy etsi apo koinoy na ta antimetwpisoyme. Se ayth th fash eimaste twra, sth fash toy dialogoy. H kybernhsh exei qesei tis protaseis ths sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn. Kalei oloys toys foreis poy symmetexoyn na symballoyn, wste, apo koinoy, na antimetwpisoyme ta qemata poy mas apasxoloyn.

FILHS: Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti, gia prwth fora, meta apo poly kairo, oi koryfaies syndikalistikes organwseis GSEE kai ADEDY khryssoyn apergies kai malista, me th symfwnh gnwmh kai thn prwtoboylia, merikes fores, twn stelexwn poy symmetexoyn sthn K.E. toy PASOK;

REPPAS: Kamia kybernhsh, se opoiadhpote dhmokratikh xwra toy kosmoy, den panhgyrizei otan ekdhlwnontai apergies. Mia proodeytikh kybernhsh, opws h dikh mas, asfalws parakoloyqei me endiaferon tis kinhtopoihseis twn ergazomenwn kai tis ajiologei, me bash toys stoxoys poy qetoyn. H antimetwpish toy problhmatos ths anergias, poy apotelei to prwto qema sthn atzenta twn ergazomenwn, apotelei kai gia mas thn pio shmantikh proteraiothta, gia ayth thn periodo. Kaloyme, loipon, toys ergazomenoys sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn, gia na katalhjoyme apo koinoy se apofaseis kai metra, ta opoia me thn efarmogh toys, qa odhghsoyn sthn kalyterh antimetwpish toy problhmatos aytoy, poy einai shmantiko sth xwra mas.

FILHS: O dolofonhqeis Gioygkoslabos feretai na exei apokthsei thn ellhnikh iqageneia apo to 1995. Qa hqela na moy peite, an yparxei kati perissotero kai an prokeitai gia mia periptwsh adiafanoys apokthshs iqageneias.

REPPAS: Fainetai oti, meta apo 10eth paramonh sthn Ellada, eixe oles tis typikes proypoqeseis kai oi yphresies ekrinan oti mporei na politografhqei Ellhnas. Den yphrxe opoiosdhpote allos logos kai den prepei na miloyme gia adiafaneia. Polloi poy menoyn sthn patrida mas gia deka kai perissotera xronia, antimetwpizontai me analogo tropo. Kai gnwrizete gia to sygkekrimeno atomo, epeidh legontai polla, oti diatypwqhkan kathgories. Se mia periptwsh, eixe ekdoqei gi` ayton apallaktiko dikastiko boyleyma kai se mia allh, gia thn opoia kathgorhqhke, den ekdikasthke kan. Kai oi dyo periptwseis, aforoyn thn kathgoria gia "jeplyma xrhmatos". Ayto einai to istoriko, ayth einai h alhqeia. Bebaiws, h Asfaleia dienergei proanakrish, sxhmatizetai fakelos, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyme pws akribws egine ayto to peristatiko.

ANTYPAS: Prohgoymenws, eipate oti edw den syzhtame qemata leitoyrgias twn organwn toy Kinhmatos. To anwtato kaqodhghtiko organo, omws, toy PASOK eqese qema leitoyrgias ths kybernhshs. Gia thn akribeia, stelexh zhthsan sygkekrimenes synedriaseis gia na kaqoristei h kybernhtikh politikh. Ti apanta h kybernhsh se ayto;

REPPAS: Oti parabiazontai anoiktes portes, giati hdh exei apofasistei apo to Ektelestiko Grafeio na ginoyn qematikes syndiaskeceis gia shmantika qemata, opws einai h anergia kai h ygeia. Ayta exoyn apofasistei kai exoyn anakoinwqei kai hmeromhnies. Ayta einai gnwsta. Ara, loipon, den tiqetai qema diastashs h parallhlhs poreias kybernhshs kai Kinhmatos. Allwste, se koryfaio epipedo, toso sthn kybernhsh, oso kai sto Kinhma, ta organa stelexwnontai apo ta idia proswpa. Oi apofaseis, loipon, poy lambanontai, einai se poreia sygklinoysa kai oxi parallhlh h poly perissotero apoklinoysa, opws kapoioi yponooyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti exei prokycei kai toys trapezoypallhloys toys metaferoyn sto IKA; Giati to apofasise ayto h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Me dedomeno oti ta tameia twn trapezoypallhlwn, se orismenoys kladoys, antimetwpizoyn problhmata, h kybernhsh exei diatypwsei mia protash na entaxqoyn sto IKA kai bebaiws, na dhmioyrghqei epishs ena eniaio epikoyriko tameio gia toys trapezoypallhloys. Ayth h protash einai sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn. Den exoyn dwsei thn telikh apanthsh toys oi trapezoypallhloi. Oi ejelijeis, ayth thn wra poy syzhtoyme, einai gorges, epeidh brisketai se ejelijh dialogos toy yfypoyrgoy Ergasias me toys ekproswpoys ths OTOE, sto ypoyrgeio Ergasias. Pisteyoyme, telikws, na symfwnhsoyn oloi se mia qesh, giati prepei na yparjei qesh. Ayto poy den prepei na ginei, einai na parameinoyn ta pragmata ws exoyn shmera. Thn protash ayth ths kybernhshs fainetai oti thn ajiologei h OTOE, den thn aporriptei abasanista kai asfalws ginetai syzhthsh, prokeimenoy na katalhjoyme se mia symfwnia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma, exoyn dihmerh apergia.

REPPAS: To gnwrizw. Epeidh, akribws, ayth h protash apotelei ena plaisio, ena prwtogenes sxhma, xreiazetai pollh syzhthsh gia to poia morfh qa parei, stis leptomereies toy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai sto stoxastro ths kybernhshs kai alla tameia;

REPPAS: Kaneis den einai sto stoxastro ths kybernhshs. Sto stoxastro ths einai h anergia kai h adynamia twn tameiwn na antapokriqoyn stis ypoxrewseis toys. H kybernhsh kalei oloys na symballoyn, wste na antimetwpisoyme kai na lysoyme ayta ta problhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Rokofyllos, shmera eipe, oti eixe enhmerwsei ton k. Kosmidh oti qa analabei th "MINWAN", gia na enhmerwsei me th seira toy ton Prwqypoyrgo. Isxyei ayto;

REPPAS: Exw epifylajeis an eipe kati tetoio o k. Rokofyllos, giati, den eqese qema oti qa analabei ayth thn ypoqesh kai bebaia oydeis qa symfwnoyse se ena tetoio endexomeno.

Sas eyxaristw.

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