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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Oktwbrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synedriase shmera to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith, me apokleistiko antikeimeno syzhthshs thn politikh ston tomea ths emporikhs naytilias.

O Ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias qa paraxwrhsei synenteyjh kai qa milhsei analytika gia tis apofaseis poy labame. Periorizomai na anaferqw sta kefalaia poy mporei kaneis na tajinomhsei ta metra politikhs poy apofasisame.

Ek prooimioy sas lew oti o Prwqypoyrgos, gia mia akomh fora, ejefrase th baqia lyph olwn mas gia th naytikh tragwdia. Epishs, ekane mia anadromh sth synergasia poy eixe, meta tis ekloges, me ton armodio Ypoyrgo Emporikhs Naytilias, prokeimenoy na dromologhsoyn th leitoyrgia epitropwn kai thn analhch diaforwn prwtoboyliwn gia thn antimetwpish qematwn ston tomea ths emporikhs naytilias. Opws antilambaneste, h shmerinh synedriash htan apo kairo programmatismenh oxi bebaiws gia shmera, alla gi` ayth thn periodo. Dystyxws, ayth h tragikh symptwsh dinei mia dramatikh epikairothta se ayth th syzhthsh. Qa htan diaforetiko to klima sto opoio qa syzhtoysame ta qemata, an den eixe mesolabhsei ayto to tragiko dystyxhma. Hdh, apo to kalokairi eixan sygkrothqei epitropes. To porisma mias epitrophs poy eixe antikeimeno ta qemata ths emporikhs naytilias, idiaiterws ths aktoploias, yphrje h bash gia thn eishghsh toy Ypoyrgoy Emporikhs Naytilias.

Oi qeseis stis opoies katalhjame @prin anaferqw se leptomereies- metajy twn allwn, periexoyn ta ejhs metra:

Thn arsh toy prostateytismoy apo to 2002.

Thn apeleyqerwsh sto kaqestws xorhghshs adeiwn skopimothtas. Odhgoymaste se ena kaqestws opoy den qa yparxei gia opoiadhpote grammh kaqestws apokleistikhs ekmetalleyshs.

Thn apofash na proxwrhsoyme se meiwsh toy orioy hlikias twn ploiwn kai,

Th dhmioyrgia enos plegmatos diadikasiwn kai organwn elegxoy. H entatikopoihsh toy elegxoy pisteyoyme oti einai aparaithth.

Pio sygkekrimena, ta metra ayta tajinomoyntai sta ejhs oktw (8) kefalaia:

Prwto kefalaio: Afora thn entatikopoihsh twn elegxwn kai thn apotelesmatikh leitoyrgia twn epiqewrhsewn. Problepetai, metajy twn allwn, h enisxysh kai ananewsh toy stelexikoy dynamikoy ths D/nshs Epiqewrhshs Emporikwn Ploiwn.

Prepei na sas pw oti h pistopoihsh gia to ajioploo twn ploiwn ginotan ews twra, opws qa synexisei na ginetai, giati etsi ginetai pantoy, apo idiwtika synergeia. Aplws, h epitroph ayth, o klados aytos toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias me ta stelexh toy kai me idiwtes empeirognwmones eixan thn armodiothta na elegxoyn an h pistopoihsh poy pareixan ayta ta idiwtika synergeia antapokrinotan stis proypoqeseis poy qetoyn oi sxetikoi kanonismoi. Ena meros twn armodiothtwn aytoy toy tmhmatos apokentrwnetai sthn perifereia. Systhnetai, epishs, epitroph poy qa leitoyrgei ws elegktiko organo ths epiqewrhshs emporikwn ploiwn, me empeirognwmones, ekproswpoys ths Panellhnias Naytikhs Omospondias, toy Texnikoy Epimelhthrioy kai allwn forewn. Qa ginei, bebaiws, mia epanajiologhsh kai aysthros elegxos twn ejoysiodothmenwn idiwtikwn synergeiwn poy parexoyn ayth thn pistopoihsh kai dhmioyrgeitai sto Ypoyrgeio Emporikhs Naytilias mia yphresia eswterikwn ypoqesewn @kati analogo exei ginei sto Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs gia thn EL.AS.- gia ton elegxo twn drasthriothtwn twn armodiwn yphresiwn.

Deytero kefalaio: Anaferetai sto neo qesmiko plaisio gia thn aktoploia. Mesa sto Noembrio h kybernhsh qa kataqesei nomosxedio gia thn apeleyqerwsh twn qalassiwn sygkoinwniwn. Epidiwkoyme h apeleyqerwsh na jekinhsei to 2002. To orio hlikias twn ploiwn mexri to 2006 meiwnetai stadiaka sta 30 xronia. Epishs, stis legomenes agones grammes ths aktoploias dhmioyrgeitai ena kaqestws dhmosias yphresias me epidothseis h me syndyasmo sth xorhghsh twn adeiwn, etsi wste se aytes na perilambanontai kai proorismoi poy den proselkyoyn to endiaferon, giati den paroysiazoyn kerdoforia. Akomh problepetai h dhmioyrgia mias ryqmistikhs arxhs gia na antimetwpisei ta qemata ths agoras, opws diamorfwnetai katw apo tis nees synqhkes.

Trito kefalaio: Afora thn ekpaideysh twn plhrwmatwn gia thn antimetwpish katastasewn ektakths anagkhs.

Tetarto kefalaio: Afora th dhmioyrgia enos panelladikoy diktyoy eqelontwn, se synergasia toy YEN me th Nomarxiakh kai Topikh Aytodioikhsh, gia qemata diaswshs, alla kai antimetwpishs problhmatwn rypanshs sth qalassa.

Pempto kefalaio: Anaferetai sthn enisxysh toy emcyxoy dynamikoy, sth stelexwsh dhladh toy YEN kai toy Limenikoy Swmatos. Apofasisthke h epipleon proslhch 750 stelexwn sto Limeniko Swma kai exei egkriqei dapanh poy jeperna ta 50 disekatommyria draxmes, prokeimenoy na enisxyqei kai employtistei o ejoplismos poy diaqetoyn, hdh, oi armodies yphresies toy L.S.

Ekto kefalaio: Anaferetai sthn anabaqmish ths ekpaideyshs kai ths katartishs twn naytikwn. Diapistwqhke oti fqinei to endiaferon twn newn ths xwras mas na entaxqoyn sta naytika epaggelmata, para th megalh paradosh poy exei h Ellada sto xwro ths naytilias. Xreiazetai idiaiterh meleth gia to qema ayto, prokeimenoy na anabaqmistoyn oi spoydes: sthn Akadhmia Emporikoy Naytikoy, h opoia parexei ptyxia tritobaqmias ekpaideyshs, sta Naytika Lykeia, sta Kentra Epimorfwshs Stelexwn Emporikoy Naytikoy, kaqws kai sta alla idrymata poy parexoyn ekpaideysh kai katartish twn naytikwn.

Ebdomo kefalaio: Afora tis synqhkes apasxolhshs twn plhrwmatwn. Gia to qema ayto, opws gnwrizete, exoyn lhfqei metra -poy exoyn stoxo thn asfaleia twn politwn, idiws to kalokairi- me meiwsh twn wrwn ergasias twn plhrwmatwn. Otan ejaggelqhkan ta metra ayta prokalesan polles antidraseis twn idiwtwn epixeirhmatiwn.

Ogdoo kefalaio: Sxetizetai me thn eqnikh limenikh politikh, h opoia xarazetai kai parakoloyqeitai, prokeimenoy na einai perissotero apotelesmatikh, apo th Genikh Grammateia Limenwn poy dhmioyrgeitai gia na antapejelqei h xwra mas, h emporikh naytilia, stis ayjhmenes apaithseis poy dhmioyrgoyntai pleon meta thn arsh toy prostateytismoy.

Ayto einai to perigramma twn apofasewn poy labame me bash thn eishghsh toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy Emporikhs Naytilias.

Prepei na pw oti eyqys ws oloklhrwqei kai katateqei to porisma ths epitrophs poy asxoleitai me qemata ths pontoporoy naytilias, ayta ta qemata qa apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs mias allhs synedriashs toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy. Giati, opws sas eipa kai sthn arxh, gia ta qemata ayta exoyn sygkrothqei dyo epitropes.

Gia ta qymata ayths ths naytikhs tragwdias, para to oti den miloyme gia mia fysikh katastrofh, alla gia ena dystyxhma, se synennohsh toy YEN me to Ypoyrgeio Pronoias, qa analhfqoyn prwtoboylies, prokeimenoy na bohqhqoyn ta qymata ayths ths tragwdias, wste na antimetwpisoyn tis ameses anagkes toys.

Dhmioyrgeitai, epishs, enas mhxanismos enhmerwshs @epeidh exoyme kai allodapoys poy exoyn plhgei kai zhtoyn plhrofories- prokeimenoy na kateyqynoyme oloys ekeinoys toys endiaferomenoys sto pws qa diekdikhsoyn ta ennoma symferonta toys.

Kleinontas, qelw na tonisw oti o stoxos ths kybernhshs, me th beltiwsh ths politikhs ston tomea ths emporikhs naytilias, paramenei. Kentrikos kai atalanteytos stoxos mas einai h asfaleia toy polith, h ejyphrethsh toy kai h dhmioyrgia mias sygxronhs aktoploias poy qa exei dieqnws antagwnistikh qesh.

Pisteyoyme oti h paradosh poy exoyme, h jexwristh qesh poy exei shmera h ellhnikh aktoploia dhmioyrgoyn th bash kai tis proypoqeseis, wste kai to mellon na einai eyoiwno.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati jhlwse h kybernhsh twra thn epiqewrhsh; Mexri twra ekanan kala th doyleia toys kai twra den qa thn kanoyn kai toys jhlwse h yparxei kapoio baqytero problhma;

REPPAS: Den yparxei kanena baqytero problhma. An yparxoyn eyqynes -epanalambanoyme- aytes ereynwntai kai qa apodoqoyn se opoioys tis exoyn, opoioi ki an einai aytoi, opoy ki an yphretoyn. Me thn protash toy Ypoyrgoy Emporikhs Naytilias apofasisthke se tetoies neyralgikes yphresies, opws einai h sygkekrimenh, na qespistei ena xroniko orio qhteias gia osoys stelexwnoyn ayth thn yphresia. To xroniko ayto orio den mporei na einai, kata thn eishghsh toy Ypoyrgoy, parapanw apo dyo xronia. Opws, epishs, sto nomosxedio poy qa kataqesei qa problepetai oti aytoi poy exoyn tetoies armodiothtes sto L.S. kai sto YEN den qa mporoyn meta th syntajiodothsh toys kai gia orismena xronia na analambanoyn ergasia se idiwtikes etaireies me synafes antikeimeno. H desmh twn metrwn einai plhrhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto poy lete den exei nomoqethqei akomh. Egw rwthsa giati toys jhlwsane xqes.

REPPAS: Den exei opoiosdhpote kai otidhpote na kataqesei enantion leitoyrgwn mias sygkekrimenhs yphresias. An kapoios exei na pei kati sygkekrimeno mporei na to kanei sto plaisio twn ereynwn poy einai se ejelijh. Apo ekei kai pera, o Ypoyrgos krinontas oti sth sygkekrimenh yphresia yphretoyn ypallhloi gia para polla xronia kai epeidh einai dedomenh h politikh epilogh na mhn mporei kapoios peran enos orismenoy xronikoy orioy na paramenei se ayth thn yphresia, proxwrhse se aytes tis allages.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eprepe, dhladh, na ginei to nayagio gia na toys jhlwsete; Ayto sas rwtw;

REPPAS: H syzhthsh poy kaname shmera, den syndeetai me ayto to tragiko gegonos. Sxetizetai, ek twn pragmatwn, logw ths xronikhs symptwshs. Epanalambanw, omws, oti oi protaseis aytes exoyn hdh perilhfqei sto porisma ths Epitrophs poy leitoyrgei edw kai arketoys mhnes kai pantws, poly prin exoyme ayth thn tragwdia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo th lista poy edwse mia etairia, yparxoyn gyrw sta 113 atoma, anwnymoi, oi opoioi einai h allodapoi h den jeroyme ti. Posoys nekroys, dhladh, perimenoyme akoma; Posoys pnigmenoys;

REPPAS: Mh milate me ayto to makabrio tropo. Sas lew oti yparxei ena qema thrhshs stoixeiwn gia toys epibates apo tis etairies. Einai ki ayto ena qema poy prepei na antimetwpistei, giati ena analogo kaqestws yparxei se oles tis xwres poy diaqetoyn aktoploia. Pragmati, polloi epibibazontai sto ploio xwris na exoyn bgalei eisithrio kai bgazoyn ekei kai alloi den bgazoyn kaqoloy eisithria. Tetoia qemata yparxoyn. Metajy twn allwn, loipon, prepei na mas apasxolhsei kai h thrhsh stoixeiwn apo tis etairies, wste na mporoyn, poly sygkekrimena kai analytika na enhmerwnoyn gia to poioi einai aytoi poy epibainoyn sto ploio, se kaqe dromologio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytoi den htan epibates ths teleytaias stigmhs. Htan apo grafeia kai eixan bgalei eisithrio poy elege allodapos.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti, sto plaisio ths ereynas, to tajidiwtiko grafeio to opoio diakinhse enan orismeno ariqmo allodapwn, toyristwn profanws, qa dwsei ta stoixeia toys.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Sta metra poy apofasisthkan sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio kai anakoinwsate ki eseis, yparxei kai ena metro gia th dhmioyrgia klimatos eswterikwn ypoqesewn sto YEN. Kata synepeia, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean gnwrizei h kybernhsh kai to YEN oti yparxoyn kyklwmata diafqoras poy droyn mesa sto YEN, ta opoia piqanon na xorhgoyn kai pistopoihtika ajioploias kai gi` ayto to logo dhmioyrghqhke ayto to tmhma. Yparxoyn kapoies tetoies plhrofories kai ayto kaqista anagkaia th leitoyrgia enos tetoioy tmhmatos;

REPPAS: Ta pragmata einai synqeta. Gnwrizete oti se polles yphresies -kai oxi mono sthn Ellada- dhmioyrgoyntai tetoies eswterikes yphresies elegxoy, yphresies eswterikwn ypoqesewn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpizontai kai fainomena diafqoras. Den pisteyw oti mporoyme, prin yparjei ena sygkekrimeno kroysma, na poyme ki emeis kati, peran aytoy, peran mias ektimhshs oti mporei na yparxoyn tetoia fainomena. An exete diapistwsei kati, parakalw na to anaferete. Sas lew, omws, oti aytes oi yphresies eswterikwn ypoqesewn exoyn, profanws, ayth thn armodiothta. Ayth th skopimothta ejyphretei h dhmioyrgia kai leitoyrgia tetoiwn yphresiwn.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den exei kapoia plhroforhsh;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti, opws egine sthn Ellhnikh Astynomia, sto ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, etsi kai sto YEN prepei na idryqei mia analogh yphresia. Ayto einai.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: An katalaba kala, enas stoxos twn metrwn aytwn einai, mexri to 2006, na pesei to orio hlikias twn ploiwn sta 30 eth. Einai etsi;

REPPAS: Einai etsi opws to lete. Ypologizoyme oti, mexri tote, qa exoyn aposyrqei peripoy 150 ploia.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Epishs, omws, exw katalabei poly kala kai th dhlwsh toy prwhn ypoyrgoy Naytilias k. Soymakh, o opoios thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, bgainontas apo to Megaro Majimoy, eipe oti o idios, epi ypoyrgias toy, katebase to orio hlikias twn ploiwn apo ta 27 sta 21.

REPPAS: Kai ayto einai swsto. Exoyme mia ananewsh toy stoloy. Prwta apo ola, den doqhke kamia adeia, ta teleytaia xronia, se ploio poy exei hlikia megalyterh twn deka etwn. Eixame mia ananewsh toy stoloy se pososto 15%. Ayta einai sygkekrimena stoixeia, ta opoia mporei na exei o kaqenas sth diaqesh toy, apo to YEN. Ayth einai h politikh mas kai me bash ayth syzhtoyme kai sthn E.E. Antilambaneste, omws, oti epeidh akribws sthn E.E. den yparxei to kaqestws orioy hlikias gia ta ploia, ena galliko ploio to opoio meta thn arsh toy prostateytismoy qa zhthsei na dromologhqei se grammes sthn Ellada, poy ejyphretoyntai shmera mono apo ton ellhnikh aktoploia, mporei kai me hlikia p.x. 60 etwn na ektelei dromologia. Apla, ayto qa einai pistopoihmeno, bebaiws, kai qa gnwrizoyn oi epibates poia einai h hlikia toy kaqe ploioy. Qelw na pw, loipon, oti emeis miloyme gia metra poy qa paroyme, oson afora thn ellhnikh naytilia. Antilambaneste pws h ellhnikh naytilia leitoyrgei se ena antagwnistiko dieqnes periballon, den einai monh ths. Kai bebaiws, afoy h E.E. den exei qespisei ena tetoio plaisio, sto sxhma toylaxiston toso aysthro oso h dikh mas xwra, den mporei na epiblhqoyn analogoi periorismoi se ploia etairiwn poy exoyn thn edra toys se mia apo tis alles xwres ths E.E.. Ayta prepei na einai safh, gia na deite oti yparxoyn diafora problhmata, ta opoia antimetwpizoyme sthn prajh.

MPOTWNHS: H energeia toy k. Rokofylloy na parabreqei sth syskech twn Minwikwn grammwn, htan se gnwsh toy PASOK; Kai mia paremferhs erwthsh: Pws sxoliazete ta osa dhlwse o k. Karamanlhs peri "omfalioy lwroy" kai monopwlioy sto Aigaio.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, qetete dyo qemata. Qa moy epitrecete na pw oti to prwto, den afora thn kybernhsh. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti exei kanei dhlwsh o Grammateas ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK. Mia tetoia stash, opws eipe kai o idios, den einai paradekth gia ena stelexos toy PASOK.

Oson afora, twra, thn omilia toy k. Karamanlh, qa moy epitrecete, apantwntas sthn erwthsh sas, na kanw ena genikotero sxolio: Me proswpikes epiqeseis enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me axarakthristes ekfraseis, me ybreis, prospaqei na dhmioyrghsei kai na synthrhsei ena noshro klima h N.D. Fainetai oti mono mesa se ena noshro politiko klima to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs mporei na diadramatisei ena rolo -etsi nomizei- kai poly perissotero, na antimetwpisei ta eswterika problhmata, enocei toy synedrioy toy. Ta problhmata ths xwras apaitoyn ypeyqynh stash, sygkekrimenes protaseis kai analhch politikhs drashs. Emeis, ws kybernhsh, eimaste aytoi poy exoyme thn eyqynh kai to baros na antimetwpisoyme ta qemata. Dystyxws, se ayth thn prospaqeia eimaste monoi mas, giati h antipoliteysh, idiaiterws h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, arkeitai se ceydeis isxyrismoys, se atekmhriwtes kataggelies, paizei enan teleiws arnhtiko rolo.

MPOYRDARAS: Exw dyo erwthseis: Prwton, an o Prwqypoyrgos, shmera, ekane kapoies parathrhseis genikoteroy politikoy endiaferontos@

REPPAS: Den ekane kamia anafora se allo qema kata thn eisagwgikh omilia toy.

MPOYRDARAS: Kai to deytero erwthma: Exete kapoio sxolio gia tis plhrofories poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, sxetika me mia periergh misqwsh akinhtoy sto Sidnei apo to "2004", poy xarakthrizetai ws@

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw leptomereies. Parakalw, na apeyqynqeite gia ta qemata ayta sthn Epitroph, ston Organismo "2004".

MIXAHL: Ypoqetw oti to apogeyma, sth synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn ka Aggelopoyloy qa syzhthqoyn para polles pleyres ths poreias gia th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn kai ths paroysias sto Sidnei.. Qa hqela na rwthsw, yparxei gia thn kybernhsh qema apomakrynshs ths kas Aggelopoyloy;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei, kat` epanalhch. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh. Den allazei tipota. Dwsame apanthsh, xqes, proxqes, prin apo arketes hmeres@

MIXAHL: Epimenw. Shmerina dhmosieymata anaferoyn oti o k. Flwridhs eishgeitai thn apomakrynsh ths kai antigrafh toy sxhmatos twn Aystralwn gia th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

REPPAS: Giati na sthrizeste monimws se dhmosieymata kai na mhn sas peiqei ayto poy leei h kybernhsh;

MIXAHL: Epeidh den diaceydontai@

REPPAS: Ma einai dynato, na epibaloyme periorismoys sto ti qa gracete h ti qa peite; Polla grafontai kai polla legontai. Den einai dynato, gia ola ayta ta qemata, na yparxei diaceysh. Sas lew poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs: H ka Aggelopoyloy exei analabei ena poly shmantiko rolo, na ferei se peras mia eqnikh ypoqesh, apo th qesh ayth, me th bohqeia ths kybernhshs, olwn twn synarmodiwn paragontwn kai yphresiwn. Pisteyoyme, loipon, oti qa proetoimastoyme katallhla kai qa diorganwsoyme thn kalyterh Olympiada poy egine pote. Ayth einai h filodojia mas.

MIXAHL: Den einai mia plhroforia thn opoia emeis maqame apo kapoy kai thn opoia gracame sto plaisio toy reportaz kai ekei mporeite na mas egkalesete giati basizomaste se kapoies plhrofories. Apodidetai ston k. Flwridh. Ara, o k. Flwridhs, efoson@

REPPAS: Exete dhlwseis toy k. Flwridh; Mporeite na mas tis anagnwsete;

MIXAHL: An egw gracw oti o D. Reppas dhlwse ayto@

REPPAS: Exoyn grafei polla tetoia kai den exw asxolhqei. Mhn to anaferete kan, einai ena atyxestato paradeigma.

MIXAHL: Nai, alla an den diaceydetai omws, shmainei oti yparxei bash.

REPPAS: Ti lete; Ayth einai h antilhch poy exete;

MIXAHL: Ma, ama apofygw@

REPPAS: Kanete laqos. Yparxei mia antistrofh twn pragmatwn. Qa moy epitrecete na pw, oti prin gracete kati, qa eprepe na apeyqynqeite sto D. Reppa kai na ton rwthsete. Mh moy lete, twra, ti grafetai, ti legetai kai me kaleite na apanthsw gia ola ayta. Giati den rwtate aytoys stoys opoioys anafereste, gia na kanete th stoixeiwdh diastayrwsh;

MIXAHL: Mhpws, loipon, oi synadelfoi mas poy to egracan, rwthsan armodiws kai den diaceysthke kai sth synexeia odhghqhkan na to gracoyn; Giati mporei na isxyei kai h apoch toy k. Flwridh kai o Prwqypoyrgos na mhn thn kanei dekth. Giati to apokleiete ayto to endexomeno;

REPPAS: Giati den exete tipota sygkekrimeno kai egkyro na epikalesteite. Anafereste se kapoia dhmosieymata. Sas lew poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh.

KAPPOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean o Prwqypoyrgos sth synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy anaferqhke kai se epimeroys qemata, opws to qema twn fortiwn, poy ta pragmata einai tragika kai epikratei mia aparadekth katastash@

REPPAS: Egine mia ektetamenh syzhthsh gia ola ta qemata. Nomizw, omws, oti oi synadelfoi sas poy kalyptoyn to reportaz toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias, mporoyn na anaferqoyn sta qemata ayta, qetontas erwthseis, prokeimenoy na milhsei gi` ayta, me perissoteres leptomereies, o armodios ypoyrgos.

LAMCIAS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, gia thn ka Aggelopoyloy oti ektelei ena shmantiko ergo kai exei th sthrijh ths kybernhshs. Ayto isxyei kai gia ta alla melh ths 5meloys dioikhshs toy "2004"; Kai to rwtw ayto, dioti diabazoyme shmera stis efhmerides -kai ayto menei na apodeixqei, bebaiws- oti orismenoi ej aytwn, gia na mhn pw egw ta onomata, einai grammena, meteixan se mia etairia h opoia epinoikiase to perifhmo Moyseio ths Aystralias gia to 2004 se mia timh ejaplasia ayths poy eixe noikiasei h idia. Fainetai, dhladh, na prokyptei ena hqiko qema.

REPPAS: H Organwtikh Epitroph leitoyrgei ws syllogiko organo. H ka Aggelopoyloy einai epikefalhs. Pisteyw oti, prepei oxi mono na toys afhsoyme aperispastoys na kanoyn th doyleia toys, alla na toys bohqhsoyme -kai ayto kanei h kybernhsh- na antimetwpisoyn kai na jeperasoyn ta opoia problhmata paroysiazontai sthn prospaqeia poy kanoyn. Gia ola ta qemata poy aforoyn epiloges toy "2004", parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto "2004" gia na exete analytikes apanthseis.

LAMCIAS: Egw rwtw, ean yparxei hqiko qema h oxi gia thn kybernhsh@

REPPAS: An den gnwrizoyme poio einai to qema, den mporoyme na to ajiologhsoyme kai na bgaloyme teliko symperasma.

LAMCIAS: An melh ths 5meloys einai se mia etairia poy exei epinoikiasei@

REPPAS: Qelete na kanoyme mia ypoqesh; Jekinate thn erwthsh sas me ena "ean".

MOYRTZHS: Eystaqei h den eystaqei;

REPPAS: Qa mporoysate, loipon, na apeyqynqeite stis yphresies toy "2004". Den gnwrizw leptomereies, den gnwrizw ta stoixeia.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mporeite na mas peite to antikeimeno ths syzhthshs poy exei ayth th stigmh o k. Flwridhs me ton Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: Meta thn epistrofh toy k. Flwridh apo thn Aystralia, einai mia kalh stigmh na synergastoyn gia qemata poy aforoyn thn proetoimasia ths xwras mas gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes toy 2004.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Exei kamia sxesh me alla zhthmata, opws einai to nomosxedio gia qemata poy aforoyn to ypoyrgeio toy;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos eixe programmatisei na dexqei ton k. Flwridh kai na syzhthsoyn, meta to tajidi ths Aystralias. Kai ayto ginetai twra, meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy.

KALARITHS: O Amerikanos presbhs k. Mperns edwse synenteyjh sto ABC, opoy metajy allwn kanei logo gia tromokratikes energeies sthn Ellada kai oti oi Amerikanoi aqlhtes endexetai na ekteqoyn se kindyno kai anaferei gia metra...

REPPAS: Einai arketa xronia sthn Aqhna o k. Mperns. Nomizw oti exei kanei dhlwseis gia to poso asfalhs niwqei sthn Ellada. To problhma ths tromokratias, epeidh exei plhgei h xwra mas, opws gnwrizete mas apasxolei idiaitera. Einai qema proteraiothtas gia thn kybernhsh mas. Einai -qa elega- ena poly shmantiko qema gia thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Prosfata, oi dyo xwres ypogracame mia synergasia, sto plaisio ths synennohshs kai toy syntonismoy twn astynomikwn yphresiwn, gia thn antimetwpish tetoiwn problhmatwn. Pisteyoyme oti qa einai akomh perissotero apotelesmatikh ayth h synergasia. Se o,ti afora toys Olympiakoys Agwnes -opws kai stoys alloys tomeis etsi kai sto sygkekrimeno- qa paroyme ola ta metra, wste na diejaxqoyn me apolyth asfaleia.

ELENOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean h ka Aggelopoyloy to shmantiko rolo poy epitelei qa mporoyse endexomenws na ton epitelesei kai apo allh qesh p.x. apo th qesh ths Ypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: Ayth einai h qesh poy exei h ka Aggelopoyloy. Gnwrizete poly kala -to exoyme pei- pws den tiqetai qema dhmioyrgias ypoyrgeioy gia thn Olympiada.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Exoyn bgei ayta stoixeia apo to Sidnei kai malista mia efhmerida dhmosieyei kai ta timologia. Mas parapempete ston Organismo 2004. Ayto ti shmainei; Oti den yparxei kapoios elegxos apo thn kybernhsh; Den exei kapoia eyqynh h kybernhsh gi ayta ta xrhmata poy dapanwntai;

REPPAS: Gia na mporesei kapoios na sxoliasei, na ajiologhsei prepei na gnwrizei pws exoyn ta stoixeia. Epeidh, gia to qema dhmosieyetai pragmati kati sxetiko, o Organismos 2004 qa dwsei tis deoyses apanthseis.

MOYRTZHS: Qa zhthsei o Prwqypoyrgos shmera ejhghseis apo thn ka Aggelopoyloy;

REPPAS: Den eipa ayto to pragma. Nomizw oti ta stelexh toy Organismoy 2004 exoyn thn eyaisqhsia, se tetoioy eidoys qemata, na apantoyn, xwris na xreiazetai na mesolabhsei kapoios tritos.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei enhmerwqei gia to qema ayto;

REPPAS: Den jerw ti gnwrizei o Prwqypoyrgos. Ayto to opoio gnwrizw einai oti pragmati yparxoyn ayta ta dhmosieymata, gia ta opoia o Organismos 2004 exei to logo.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: Apantwntas se erwthsh synadelfoy, eipate oti, se olo ayto diasthma den exei doqei adeia se kanena ploio anw twn deka etwn. Se shmerinh kataxwrish, stis efhmerides, ths MINOAN FLYING DOLFINS anaferetai to ejhs: Mia adeia doqhke apo thn kybernhsh sth grammh Layrio-Kea gia ploio hlikias deka etwn, enw dromologhqhke ploio hlikias 25 etwn (den doqhke adeia). Ayto shmainei, dhladh, oti den doqhke adeia gia ploio deka etwn sth sygkekrimenh etaireia kai doqhke apo thn kybernhsh gia ploio 25 etwn.

REPPAS: Epanalambanw oti ola ayta ta stoixeia, dystyxws den exw mazi moy th sxetikh katastash, mporei na einai sth diaqesh sas. Einai qema toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias kai oles oi apanthseis einai sth diaqesh kaqe endiaferomenoy. Oi synadelfoi sas qetoyn ta qemata ayta kai pairnoyn apanthseis.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh apo th syzhthsh poy diejhxqh xqes sth Boylh, sthn ``Wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'';

REPPAS: Sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias, sthn kaloymenh ``wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy'', oi politikoi arxhgoi eixan th dynatothta na anaptyjoyn tis apoceis toys, symfwna me ton Kanonismo ths Boylhs. O Prwqypoyrgos edwse apanthseis. Pisteyoyme oti h topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ta stoixeia ta opoia anefere, rixnoyn fws se orismenes ptyxes ths naytikhs tragwdias, alla kai genikotera, ths politikhs poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh. Me ayth thn ennoia mporei na pei kaneis oti htan qetikh h paroysia sth Boylh, xqes, toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs.

Sas eyxaristw.

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