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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Na jekinhsoyme apo ta toy ypoyrgeioy sas. H kritikh poy dexeste apo megalh merida toy Typoy, einai oti anabaqmizete men to ESR, alla apo thn allh pleyra, epeidh eseis diamorfwnete ton katalogo, mesa apo ton opoio qa epilegoyn ta atoma poy qa apartisoyn to ESR, ayto qewreitai kata kapoio tropo oti leitoyrgwntas me ayto ton tropo h kybernhsh elegxei, sthn oysia, to ESR. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: To ESR anejarthtopoieitai se apolyto baqmo. Einai ayto poy xorhgei tis adeies se radiofwnikoys kai thleoptikoys staqmoys. Einai ayto poy elegxei th nomimothta ths leitoyrgias toys. Einai ayto to opoio epiballei kyrwseis poy apoteloyn prajeis amesa ektelestes, xwris na ypokeintai oi apofaseis toy se elegxo nomimothtas apo ton ypoyrgo Typoy, opws problepei to isxyon nomiko kaqestws. Oi kathgories oles ofeilontai -to pisteyw ayto- se agnoia gia to periexomeno toy nomosxedioy. Otan doqei sth dhmosiothta, entos ths hmeras, nomizw oti polloi qa allajoyn gnwmh. Para to oti, bebaiws, pantote yparxei kai h skopimothta poy odhgei kapoioys apo thn antipoliteysh na diatypwnoyn ayth thn kritikh gia to sygkekrimeno qema poy qesate. To ESR, mexri twra, sygkroteitai meta apo protaseis twn politikwn kommatwn. Ayto den einai problhma. To problhma einai oti oi protaqentes apo ta politika kommata, se polles periptwseis, leitoyrghsan ws ekproswpoi twn kommatwn. Oxi ws proswpikothtes me leitoyrgikh anejarthsia, opws qelei o nomos, oxi ws anqrwpoi kyroys oi opoioi protaqhkan apo kapoio sygkekrimeno politiko komma, alla den einai entetalmena organa toy kommatos poy toys proteine, me apotelesma ayth h anejarthth arxh na metatrapei se diakommatiko organo, se mia diakommatikh epitroph.

Emeis epiqymoyme to ESR na sygkroteitai me enan tetoio tropo, o opoios ejasfalizei men eyreia synainesh, oson afora tis diadikasies sygkrothshs toy, alla taytoxrona na einai anejarthth arxh. Ta melh toy na exoyn -kai sthn prajh na deixnoyn oti exoyn- proswpikh kai leitoyrgikh aytoteleia. Ayto epitygxanetai me ayto to nomosxedio.

H sygkekrimenh parathrhsh poy afora to oti o ypoyrgos einai aytos o opoios energopoiei th diadikasia, me enan katalogo poy perilambanei diplasio ariqmo proswpwn, dhladh 18, prokeimenoy h armodia Diarkhs Epitroph ths Boylhs na epilejei ta melh toy ESR, mporei na apanthqei ws ejhs: Den eimaste dogmatikoi. Toylaxiston egw proswpika, eimai etoimos na dexqw mia allagh se ayth th ryqmish, gia ton aploystato logo oti den qa hqela, efoson ekeinh th stigmh eimai ypoyrgos Typoy, na katartisw enan tetoio katalogo. Den dexetai eykola, prepei na sas pw -kai den xaritologw, milw pragmatika- kapoios na mpei se enan katalogo, an den einai bebaios oti qa eklegei. Kai, bebaia, enas tetoios katalogos katartizetai pantote meta apo diaboyleyseis me ta kommata kai me alloys foreis poy exoyn logo epi twn sxetikwn qematwn. ``Apelqetw ap` emoy to pothrion toyto''.

Pisteyoyme, omws, oti me bash ta osa isxyoyn se alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, ayth h diadikasia einai h pleon fileleyqerh. Prepei na sas pw oti sto synolo twn xwrwn ths Eyrwphs, me elaxistes ejaireseis, ta antistoixa Symboylia Radiothleorashs diorizontai apo thn kybernhsh h ton armodio ypoyrgo.

Sth M. Bretania diorizei o armodios ypoyrgos. Stis Skandinabikes xwres diorizei h kybernhsh. Stis HPA kai ton Kanada diorizei h kybernhsh. Sthn Ispania kai tis alles xwres ths E.E. diorizei h kybernhsh.

Ejairetikh periptwsh einai h Gallia, opoy to Symboylio diorizetai apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias poy exei ayjhmenes armodiothtes, ton Proedro ths Boylhs kai ton Proedro ths Geroysias. Kaqenas apo toys treis paragontes sygkrotei kata to 1/3, me protash toy, to Symboylio.

To problhma, loipon, den einai ayto. Einai ``peri onoy skias'' h syzhthsh poy ginetai. Qa apogohteyqoyn opoioi oikodomhsoyn thn kritikh toys panw se tetoioys isxyrismoys. Parabiazoyn anoiktes portes.

Kai prepei na kanw mia parathrhsh akomh, giati blepw ton k. Ebert na diatypwnei kritikh kai na anaferetai se alla qemata, peran twn oswn eipa egw xqes, qewrwntas oti etsi apanta, kai na pw to ejhs: O k. Ebert ws ypoyrgos Proedrias thn periodo poy kybernhse h N.D., sas enhmerwnw, mia apo tis prwtes ypoyrgikes apofaseis poy phre htan na allajei th synqesh toy ESR. Htan 11meles mexri tote, opws proeblepe o N.1866/89 kai to metetrece se 19meles, prosqetontas sth synqesh toy ekproswpoys diaforwn forewn, prokeimenoy na diamorfwsei mia pleiochfia yper toy kommatos toy h yper ths tote kybernhshs, gia na elegjei th leitoyrgia toy ESR, antiqeta me o,ti proeblepe o nomos gia to ESR. Kai en synexeia, meta apo peripoy enamish xrono, erxetai me nomo sth Boylh na epikyrwsei ayth thn paranomh apofash. Symperielabe thn apofash toy se diatajh nomoy, prokeimenoy na kalycei ayth thn energeia toy ek twn ysterwn. Kai to Symboylio ths Epikrateias, me apofash toy, ekrine antisyntagmatiko ayto to nomo. Pws tolmoyn na askoyn kritikh, otan einai gnwstes oi energeies toys; Sas eipa kai xqes, gia alla qemata oti polloi qa breqoyn pro ekplhjewn, kaqws anoigei ayth h syzhthsh. Giati, ws kybernhtikos ekproswpos, den exw milhsei gia ayta ta qemata, alla to epomeno diasthma qa milhsoyme arketa gi` ayta, gia na gnwrizei o laos kai oi politikoi ti exoyme kanei kai na mh lene ayta ta aneyqyna, ta opoia me tosh eykolia ekstomizoyn polles fores, epeidh agnooyn pws exoyn ta pragmata.

H prospaqeia einai dyskolh, giati gia prwth fora epixeiroyme thn aposafhnish toy radiothleoptikoy topioy. Katartisame xartes syxnothtwn. Opws einai fer` eipein to kthmatologio, kat` analogia exoyme mia antistoixh meleth gia tis syxnothtes radiofwnwn kai thleorasewn sthn Ellada. Ayth einai mia terastia doyleia. Kai prepei na pw oti otan oloklhrwqei kai qa oloklhrwqei syntomotata -mesa sthn ebdomada nomizw oti oi fakeloi gia toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys ths Attikhs qa staloyn sto ESR, oloklhrwqhke o elegxos poy problepetai apo to nomo kai apo tis dikes mas yphresies- thn epomenh fora kai thn kaqe epomenh fora, h diadikasia ayth qa ginetai poly pio grhgora kai poly pio eykola. H prwth fora pantote einai dyskolh. Twra dhmioyrgoyme ena neo periballon, dhmioyrgoyme mia nea pragmatikothta. Ara, loipon, mh diatypwnontai aytes oi kathgories me tetoio tropo poy adikei aytoys oi opoioi kathgoroyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti aytoi oi opoioi htan apo ta kommata leitoyrghsan ws kommatikoi entetalmenoi. Aytoys poy diorisate eseis pws leitoyrghsan; Kai eixate kai thn pleiochfia!

REPPAS: To PASOK oydepote diorise stelexh ta opoia sto ESR meteferan tis apoceis toy kommatos, toy Kinhmatos, giati den eixan kai organikh sxesh. Den diorisame melh toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy mas, den diorisame melh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs mas. Alla kommata to ekanan. Kai efqanan se shmeio, melh toy ESR na ekdidoyn anakoinwseis me to grafeio Typoy toy kommatos poy anhkoyn. Ayto synista leitoyrgia anejarthths arxhs;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dikaiwma toys htan. Giati, apagoreyetai;

REPPAS: Entajei. Edw einai h diafwnia mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai eseis bgainate edw kai kalyptate toys ypoloipoys.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti kathgoroymai, metajy twn allwn, oti kai aytoi poy dioristhkan apo ton Proedro ths Boylhs, poy ypotiqetai oti dioristhkan apo thn kybernhsh, breqhkan se kapoia diastash mazi moy gia sygkekrimena qemata. Ara, loipon, ayto apodeiknyei oti den yphrxe opoiosdhpote elegxos epi twn apofasewn kai twn prajewn toys. Kai h diafwnia h opoia proekyce, afora se ena sygkekrimeno nomiko zhthma, oxi politiko zhthma. Afora, kat` arxas, thn anadromikh epibolh kyrwsewn kai polles fores sas eipa se aythn edw thn aiqoysa oti se ena kratos dikaioy den einai dynato na epiblhqoyn anadromikws kyrwseis. Sth qesh ayth paramenoyme panta. Afora akomh thn epibolh kyrwsewn gia th legomenh emmesh diafhmish, opoy egw arnoymai na syntaxqw me mia qesh poy einai se antiqesh me to P.D. 236/92. Ayth einai mia nomikh diafwnia. Twra, me to nomosxedio poy proteinoyme, katargeitai o elegxos ths nomimothtas, ara den qa yparjei pleon tetoia diastash kai thn opoia nomikh diafwnia qa th lynoyn ta dikasthria, opoy mporoyn oi endiaferomenoi, an qeloyn, na prosfeygoyn. Ara, loipon, ola ayta antimetwpizontai. Mono ayth h diafwnia yphrje. Kamia allh. Sas kalw na moy peite, ola ayta ta xronia poy kapoioi kallierghsan systhmatika thn entypwsh ths rhjhs me to ESR, poio allo einai to pedio ths diafwnias mas. Mono ayto to qema. Kai emeis nomika paramenoyme se ayto to qema. Nomika, h qesh mas pisteyoyme oti einai orqh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ypogracate kamia apofash@

REPPAS: Oles oi alles apofaseis ypografthkan.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ypogracate kamia epibolh kyrwsewn; Ypogracate kamia;

REPPAS: Para polles. Anw twn 80! Einai sth diaqesh toy kaqenos. Exoyn katateqei sth Boylh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia epibolh kyrwsewn;

REPPAS: Bebaiws. Ta stoixeia exoyn katateqei kai sth Boylh. Giati kanete ayto to laqos; Qa anaferw mono dyo periptwseis: H mia einai xarakthristikh. Otan epiblhqhke ston thleoptiko staqmo ANT1 ena prostimo 100.000.000 draxmwn gia sygkekrimenh ekpomph, paragontes apo ola ta kommata -th N.D. kai ta alla kommata ths antipoliteyshs, alla kai boyleytes toy PASOK- kathgorhsan thn kybernhsh kai emena poy epikyrwsa ayth thn apofash.

Deyteron: otan arnhqhka na epitrecw thn anaptyjh epixeirhmatikwn drasthriothtwn gia radiothleoptikes yphresies syndromhtikoy xarakthra, mesw chfiakhs texnologias me doryforo, dexqhka epiqesh apo oloys. O k. Ebert -kalh toy wra, mias kai ton anaferame prin- me kaloyse na epitrecw amesws stoys epixeirhmaties na ekpemcoyn to programma toys. Htan mazi toys, oxi me mena poy lew oti prepei na yparjei ena safes nomiko plaisio gia na mhn epanalhfqei h idia katastash poy egine me ta eleyqerhs lhchs thleoptika mesa. Den htan eykolo mia diamorfwmenh katastash na thn antimetwpisei o N.2328/95. Kai akomh, giati qa erqei pali sthn epikairothta to qema ayto, otan to ESR ejedwse thn apofash toy kata ton prwto kyklo elegxoy twn fakelwn gia toys 20 radiofwnikoys staqmoys poy eprepe na paroyn adeia gia to Nomo Attikhs, dexqhka pali epiqesh. O k. Koybelhs ekane dhlwseis, h N.D. me polla stelexh ths ekane dhlwseis kai o k. Sphliwtopoylos ws ekproswpos ths N.D. me kalese na mh dexqw thn apofash toy ESR. Einai dynaton oloi aytoi na miloyn gia krish stis dikes moy sxeseis me to ESR, otan oydepote gia alla qemata -peran toy nomikoy qematos sto opoio anaferqhka- yphrje h opoiadhpote diastash qesewn; Thn wra poy ekeinoi strafhkan enantion toy ESR kai to xrhsimopoihsan me kaqe tropo.

Ola ayta kai polla akomh -giati eipa polloi qa breqoyn pro ekplhjewn- qa ta syzhthsoyme thn epomenh periodo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ki eseis den proxwrhsate, giati fobhqhkate@

REPPAS: Asfalws oloklhrwnetai ayth h diadikasia@

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh htan diatrhtoi oi fakeloi, gi` ayto den proxwrhsate@

REPPAS: Emeis den exoyme kanena logo, afoy den apofasizoyme emeis, para to ESR, na stamathsoyme ayth th diadikasia. To ESR qa labei syntoma thn telikh toy apofash. Den nomizw oti xreiazetai polys xronos, afoy exei diatypwsei ton prwto katalogo. Emeis qa apeyqynqoyme pali sto ESR me tis parathrhseis poy kanoyme, meta ton elegxo nomimothtas poy problepei to isxyon nomiko plaisio, kai to ESR qa ekdwsei thn telikh toy apofash. Nomizw oti einai qema poly ligoy xronoy. Tote qa doyme tis dikes sas antidraseis kai pollwn akomh, otan apo toys polloys radiofwnikoys staqmoys poy leitoyrgoyn sto Nomo Attikhs, kapoioi qa prepei na stamathsoyn na leitoyrgoyn. Fantazomai na eiste mazi mas tote.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish, xwris na qelw na meiwsw to ergo, to opoio kanate, to nomoqetiko: Giati den mimeiste akribws o,ti ginetai stis alles xwres poy proanaferate kai giati kanete ayth thn prwtotypia; Poios einai o logos; Pote epiteloys qa dwsete tis adeies, eite eseis@; Apo to @89 perimenw, ws poliths. Na ginei mia nomimopoihsh olhs ayths ths anarxias.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, tis adeies kai me to isxyon nomiko kaqestws tis xorhgei to ESR. Egw ekdidw aplws thn telikh dioikhtikh prajh. Dhladh, ton katalogo, ton ajiologiko pinaka katatajhs twn thleoptikwn kai radiofwnikwn staqmwn ton apofasizei kai ton diamorfwnei to ESR, oxi egw. Ara, kai me to isxyon kaqestws, tis adeies tis xorhgei, oysiastika, to ESR.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Den epopteyete eseis;

REPPAS: Nai, alla h apofash toy me desmeyei epi ths oysias. Den mporw na allajw, epi ths oysias, thn apofash toy ESR. O katalogos, dhladh, me toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys gia thn perifereia Attikhs, o opoios qa katartistei apo to ESR, qa einai o telikos, poy qa anakoinwqei kai epishmws kai me th dikh moy ypografh.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Xronikws, mporeite na mas peite, pote qa ginei;

REPPAS: Den mporw na milhsw ek meroys toy ESR. Nomizw, omws, oti einai qema ligoy xronoy. H pollh doyleia exei ginei. Nomizw oti einai qema ligoy xronoy kai milw kyriolektika. Oson afora ayth thn kaqysterhsh, sas eipa oti thn prwth fora efarmoghs kaqe diatajews, poly perissotero, otan aytes oi diatajeis einai synqetes, yparxei mia sxetikh xronikh kaqysterhsh. Omws, to plaisio ayto den yparxei poyqena sthn Eyrwph. Den yparxei se kamia xwra ths Eyrwphs, pera apo th dikh mas, nomos opws o 2644/1998 poy eishghqhka gia tis radiothleoptikes syndromhtikes yphresies. Den yparxei poyqena nomos sthn Eyrwph toso leptomerhs san ton 2328. Yparxoyn genikoi kanones, genikes ryqmiseis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Giati ayto;

REPPAS: Giati einai dyskolo na antimetwpisoyn ayta ta qemata. Ekei na deite ti sygkentrwsh dynamhs yparxei. Ekei na deite ean epitrepontai h oxi diafores asymbibastes drasthriothtes. Giati emeis epididomaste se ena kynhgi magisswn, genika. Ekei leitoyrgei, omws, mia Arxh Antagwnismoy, h opoia kaqe fora elegxei toys epixeirhmatikoys foreis, an jepernoyn ena orio, wste na kataktoyn mia despozoysa qesh sthn agora, h opoia ephreazei, apo kei kai pera, th leitoyrgia ths agoras. H proseggish, dhladh, ginetai synhqws me thn antimetwpish twn qematwn, wste na leitoyrgei o ygihs antagwnismos, giati ta MME einai kai epixeirhseis, kai bebaiws na ejasfalizetai h polyfwnia. Dinoyn baros ston ygih antagwnismo, oson afora thn epixeirhmatikh drasthriothta afenos kai thn thrhsh ths deontologias, oson afora ta programmata twn MME, afeteroy. Kai emeis to exoyme kanei ayto gia thn paroxh syndromhtikwn yphresiwn me to N. 2644/98. Yparxoyn aysthres arxes, oi opoies elegxoyn an throyntai oi kwdikes deontologias. Den exoyn oloi ayth th grafeiokratia, poy me astynomiko tropo prospaqoyme emeis na antimetwpisoyme ayta ta qemata. Emeis epixeiroyme na elegjoyme to idiokthsiako kaqestws. Pantote to prospaqoyme, alla h agora einai para poly epinohtikh.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Einai koino mystiko oti sth Nea Yorkh ``mageireyetai'', pleon, apo thn Amerikh kai th Megalh Bretania, lysh synomospondias sto Kypriako, dixotomhsh toy nhsioy. Yparxei entonh anhsyxia sthn Kypro kai bebaia, sthn Ellada kai, bebaia qelw na pisteyw oti ki eseis o idios anhsyxeite gia tis ejelijeis. Xqes, o k. Karamanlhs sas epekrine, ektenws, gia epikindynoys xeirismoys, toso sto Kypriako, oso kai sta qemata toy Aigaioy. Qa hqela na mas dwsete mia apanthsh.

REPPAS: H qesh mas einai safhs kai oristikh. H lysh gia to kypriako qema qa ejeyreqei sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE kai mono. Se ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanei h kypriakh kybernhsh eimaste mazi ths. Den prokeitai na epitrapei anagnwrish toy kaqestwtos sta katexomena. Den prokeitai na epidiwxqei h na epitrapei opoiadhpote prospaqeia gia lysh, mesw ths oristikhs dixotomhshs ths Kyproy, me ena morfwma synomospondias. Ola ayta ta exoyme jekaqarisei kai paramenoyme se ayth th qesh. Antilambanomaste oti h proodos twn syzhthsewn synanta polles dyskolies kai xreiazetai na deijoyn oloi akraia ypeyqynothta. Eimaste se etoimothta. Qa elega oti exoyme kai mia epoikodomhtikh anhsyxia, giati, asfalws, se tetoies synqetes energeies polloi paragontes ephreazoyn thn ejelijh twn pragmatwn. O k. Karamanlhs den dikaiologeitai na kathgorei ton Prwqypoyrgo, ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, thn kybernhsh kai malista me ayto ton tropo gia dhqen ``kosmopolitismo'', otan gnwrizei oti kai to kyros ths xwras exei anabaqmistei kai o Prwqypoyrgos kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn symmetexoyn se dieqnh FORA ekproswpwntas th xwra kai prowqwntas ta eqnika symferonta. Ayto to gnwrizoyn oloi oi Ellhnes. To gnwrizei h dieqnhs koinothta. Einai mia pragmatikothta. Den qelw na antidiasteilw ayto poy ekeinos apokalei ``kosmopolitismo'', me ayto poy egw qa mporoysa na apokalesw ``eparxiwtismo'' ths N.D., giati tote ypobibazetai poly to epipedo ths syzhthshs. Alla, den exei ayth thn epoikodomhtikh anhsyxia, h opoia einai dikaiologhmenh, einai paragwgikh. Exei mia diaqesh steiras kai tyflhs antipoliteyshs, gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn kai mono. Kai ayto oxi mono den prosferei sthn eqnikh ypoqesh, alla, qa elega isa-isa oti dinei thn entypwsh diarrhjhs enos metwpoy enothtas, poy prepei, idiaiterws, ayth thn periodo na einai sfyrhlathmeno se ayton ton topo.

MPOTWNHS: Xqes, sth syzhthsh sth Boylh gia thn epimaxh tropologia gia th metoxopoihsh toy OTE, treis boyleytes toy PASOK den symmeteixan, alloi antikatastaqhkan kai qa htan megalyterh h diarroh@.Ayto apotelei problhma gia thn kybernhsh, giati synodeyetai kai apo dhlwseis boyleytwn toy PASOK gia metepeita@;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti chfisthke to sxetiko nomosxedio, ara, tiqetai, pleon, se efarmogh h politikh poy apofasise h kybernhsh. Gnwrizete oti oi boyleytes ekfrazontai eleyqera kai chfizoyn kata syneidhsh. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai oloi mazi, katw apo thn politikh ths kybernhshs, opws exei apofasistei sta kybernhtika kai kommatika organa, na strateyqoyme gia thn proodo ths xwras. Kai ayto ginetai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh milhsate gia ton OTE, mporeite na kanete ena sxolio, gi` ayta ta ekatommyria poy jodece gia na apanthsei o OTE;

REPPAS: Kaqe dioikhsh exei thn eyqynh twn epilogwn ths. Mporei, otan prepei na enhmerwnei to koino, poly perissotero enas megalos Organismos, opws o OTE poy exei metoxoys, na prosfygei se mia tetoia diadikasia. Nomizw oti ta MME, oi efhmerides den dexontai kataxwrhseis, xwris plhrwmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den ebgaze mia anakoinwsh;

REPPAS: Einai mia meqodos poy exei xrhsimopoihqei polles fores. Den nomizw oti einai pros cogo ayto.

MPOYRDARAS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia to yfos ths apanthshs toy OTE;

REPPAS: H apanthsh poy edwse o OTE einai apanthsh toy, den einai dikh moy. H apanthsh poy dinei h ``KAQHMERINH'' h kaqe efhmerida kai ta sxolia poy kanei, einai sxolia ths efhmeridas, den einai dika mas. Ara, loipon, kaqenas mporei na kriqei gia ton tropo me ton opoio ekfrazetai h th diadikasia poy epilegei na paroysiasei tis apoceis toy. Ayto poy exei shmasia, omws, einai toyto: O OTE einai enas megalos Organismos, einai se mia krisimh kamph. O OTE kai o COSMOTE, prepei na sthrixqoyn. Ayto einai bebaio kai nomizw oti oloi to epiqymoyme. Prepei, se teleytaia analysh, na meinoyn ejw apo ena pedio antidikias -poy syxna dhmioyrgeitai, syxna kataskeyazetai, xwris logo polles fores- tetoioy eidoys dhmosies epixeirhseis poy aforoyn ena megalo tmhma toy ellhnikoy laoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oloi oi kratikoi organismoi qa apantoyn me plhrwmenes anakoinwseis, apo edw kai pera;

REPPAS: Kaqe dioikhsh kanei tis epiloges ths. Na milhsoyme, loipon, pali se ena-dyo mhnes, se ena xrono, na kanoyme mia apotimhsh twn energeiwn poy exei kanei kaqe Dioikhsh. Mexri tote, loipon, mhn protrexete, gia na dhmioyrgeite entypwseis. Den yparxei logos.

Sas eyxaristw.

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