Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-09-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Shmera, stis 2 m.m., o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei to Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs K. Skandalidh. Tis epomenes hmeres synedriazei to Ektelestiko Grafeio kai ara h proetoimasia ths synedriashs epiballei ayth th synanthsh me ton k. Skandalidh. To apogeyma, stis 7.30, qa synergastei me ton eishghth ths pleiochfias sth syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos k. Benizelo. Gnwrizete oti einai se ejelijh h syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos kai einai xrhsimh mia tetoia syzhthsh.

Ayrio stis 10 to prwi, qa proedreysei se syskech me symmetoxh pollwn ypoyrgwn kai yfypoyrgwn, sthn opoia qa ginei mia telikh ejetash ths katastashs poy dhmioyrghqhke, meta ton persino seismo kai ths apotelesmatikothtas twn metrwn poy exoyn lhfqei. Amesws meta, qa synergastei me thn k. Papandreoy, ton k. Papantwnioy kai ton k. Dry gia qemata toy ypo katartish proypologismoy.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10 to prwi, qa dexqei ton YPEJ G. Papandreoy, o opoios qa ton enhmerwsei gia ta apotelesmata toy tajidioy toy stis HPA. Argotera, stis 12 to meshmeri, sto plaisio twn taktikwn episkecewn toy se ypoyrgeia, qa episkefqei to ypoyrgeio Gewrgias kai qa syzhthsei qemata synafh me osa apasxoloyn toys polites poy zoyn sthn ellhnikh ypaiqro. To brady, stis 7, qa synedriasei to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK, opoy qa proedreysei o Prwqypoyrgos, me qema ton programmatismo drashs toy Kinhmatos gia thn epomenh periodo.

Thn Pempth, qa synedriasei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, me dieyrymenh synqesh, gia thn poreia efarmoghs toy kybernhtikoy ergoy.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 12.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei ton ypoyrgo Politismoy Q. Pagkalo kai amesws meta, stis 13.00, qa synergastei me ton k. Pagkalo kai ton k. Laliwth gia to qema ths enopoihshs twn arxaiologikwn xwrwn, sthn Aqhna. Einai qema koinhs armodiothtas twn dyo ypoyrgwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Epikeitai anasxhmatismos ths kybernhshs; Epeidh ayto den anakoinwnetai, alla yparxoyn kai polles plhrofories kai polla dhmosieymata poy lene oti metakineitai o k. Skandalidhs, oti mpainei sthn kybernhsh o k. Benizelos, oti feygei o k. Pagkalos@

REPPAS: Ayto deixnei oti sthn Ellada exoyme eleyqerotypia, se poly ychlo epipedo. Apo ekei kai pera, armodios gia to qema ayto einai o Prwqypoyrgos kai mono. Mporw na sas diabebaiwsw oti den tiqetai tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn synanthqhke sthn Amerikh kai pareqese kai geyma ston k. Tzem kai eipan kai oi dyo oti pane kala oi sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn. Einai dynato na synantatai kai na milaei me ton Tzem, otan o Prwqypoyrgos ths Toyrkias Etzebit qetei qema Aigaioy kai enaerioy xwroy, otan ginontai parabiaseis toy enaerioy xwroy mas na phgainei kai na milaei me ton Tzem;

REPPAS: H synanthsh ayth, ston aiwna ths epikoinwnias poy eishlqame, mporei na pei kaneis oti periexei qetika stoixeia poy symballoyn se mia epoikodomhtikh proseggish. Oi sxeseis Elladas kai Toyrkias, emeis epiqymoyme na ejomalynqoyn. Qa prepei, omws, h Toyrkia na kanei ta bhmata poy ths analogoyn. Den exei antapokriqei, mexri twra, se ayto. Ayto den shmainei oti den qa prepei na diathrhsoyme anoiktoys toys diayloys ths epikoinwnias. Kai prepei na sas pw oti h paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths xwras mas sta Hnwmena Eqnh kai oi synanthseis poy eixe thn prohgoymenh ebdomada, htan poly xrhsimes gia ta eqnika symferonta mas. Allwste, o idios, epistrefontas sthn Aqhna, giati shmera brisketai stis Bryjelles, metexontas sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn, qa exei th dynatothta, milwntas stoys dhmosiografoys, na toys enhmerwsei me perissoteres leptomereies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia ayth th synanthsh, htan enhmeros o Prwqypoyrgos kai edwse to O.K. na ginontai oi synanthseis kai na parabiazetai o ellhnikos enaerios xwros, thn idia wra;

REPPAS: Ayth h synanthsh htan programmatismenh prin apo poly kairo. To gnwrizete poly kala, giati kai h efhmerida sthn opoia ergazeste, to exei gracei. Htan sto plaisio twn epafwn poy eixe o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, kata thn paramonh toy sth Nea Yorkh.

XRYSOSTOMIDHS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas stis dhlwseis toy k. Etzebit oti qelei dialogo me thn Ellada gia na epilyqoyn ola ta problhmata kai oxi mesw dieqnwn dikasthriwn.

REPPAS: Ena problhma yparxei mono metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias: To qema ths yfalokrhpidas, gia to opoio yparxei sygkekrimenh diadikasia poy prepei na akoloyqhqei kai apo thn Toyrkia, wste na doqei lysh. Kata ta alla, sthn apofash Koryfhs toy Elsinki problepetai h ajiopoihsh twn diadikasiwn toy Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs, pragma to opoio, ws diadikasia, ws arxh sthn politikh ths, desmeyei kai thn Toyrkia. Tetoies dhlwseis toy k. Etzebit den exoyn apodekth. Den einai dynato na yparxei opoiadhpote syzhthsh epi qematwn poy aforoyn synora h kyriarxika dikaiwmata. Ayta einai aposafhnismena, edw kai para polla xronia. Kata ta alla, pragmati, ayth thn periodo poy apaitoyntai krisimoi xeirismoi, emeis den eimaste aplws konta sthn Kypro, eimaste mazi me thn Kypro. Kai to kypriako problhma qa lyqei -giati tote mono mporoyme na milame gia lysh- efoson efarmostoyn sthn prajh ta chfismata toy OHE. Ayto prepei na einai safes. Ayth einai h qesh mas kai den allazei.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa gnwrizete oti, xqes, eixame nea tetelesmena sthn Kypro, sto xwrio Axeritoy, ta toyrkika strateymata, ta fylakia, ta eferan pros tis eleyqeres perioxes. Einai h prosfilhs taktikh toy k. Ntenktas, prin paei stis synomilies. Eixame ta Strobilia, twra exoyme to Axeritoy.

REPPAS: To elaxisto poy mporei na kanei kapoios, einai na katadikasei mia tetoia energeia. Ayto to opoio, omws, qa pw einai kati poly genikotero: H ajiopistia toy OHE krinetai, kyriws, apo thn apotelesmatikothta toy.

ALEIFEROPOYLOS: To Kentriko Symboylio ths Neolaias PASOK se synedriash toy, to prohgoymeno Sabbato, ejedwse anakoinwsh -malista chfisthke apo thn pleiochfia kai h eishghsh toy Proedroy Qanoy Mwraith- sthn opoia emmesws plhn safws balletai gia toys xeirismoys toy o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias G. Papantwnioy gia th metoxopoihsh toy OTE. Ginetai anafora gia anagkh qespishs kapoiwn kanonwn sto qema ths diaplokhs kai kalei thn kybernhsh, h Neolaia toy kybernwntos kommatos, na epanelqei sto dialogo gia ta ergasiaka kai kathgorei thn kybernhsh gia ryqmizeis ``sok''. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: H Neolaia PASOK ekfrazei tis anhsyxies ths kai diatypwnei tis qeseis ths gia diafora qemata ths epikairothtas. Ayto einai poly qetiko.

MPOTWNHS: O Arxiepiskopos, xqes, ekane logo gia amartwla kaqestwta kai nees ideologies perityligmenes se xrysoxarta. H kybernhsh kai to PASOK anhkoyn se kapoia apo aytes tis kathgories;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h kybernhsh akoloyqei sygkekrimenh politikh. Oson afora thn proaspish twn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn, den xwrei opoiadhpote ekptwsh. Kata ta alla h politikh ths kybernhshs den exei kamia sxesh me xrysoxarta. H politikh ths kybernhshs den einai tipota allo, para h apotypwsh ths anagkhs ayths ths xwras kai aytoy toy laoy na proodeysei. Se ayto to aithma antapokrinetai h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

MIXAHL: Exete na kanete ena genikotero sxolio gia to gegonos oti arxise h syllogh ypografwn kai gia olh ayth th diadikasia;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei kai allh fora. Paramenw se ayta ta opoia exw pei.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh apodexetai h symmerizetai thn kritikh poy askhsan oi ierarxes, enantion toy k. Xristodoyloy;

REPPAS: Einai oi apoceis twn ierarxwn. Emeis den sxoliazoyme apoceis ierarxwn, otan den aforoyn thn kybernhsh. Den mas afora ayth syzhthsh. Epanalambanw, gia mia akomh fora, me aformh thn erwthsh sas, pws den epiqymoyme gia ena qema, to opoio exoyme antimetwpisei, na anadeixqoyme ws mia pleyra, apo tis polles poy syzhtoyn gia ena sygkekrimeno qema. To qema ayto to exoyme antimetwpisei oristika.

FILHS: Epeidh polloi polites poy endiaferontai, rwtoyn, pote qa ekdoqoyn oi nees taytothtes;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti ayth h diadikasia einai se ejelijh. Apo tis armodies yphresies -apo tis odhgies poy doqhkan- exoyn ekdoqei ta pistopoihtika, ta opoia periexoyn ta aparaithta stoixeia gia ekeinoys poy allazoyn taytothtes, epeidh tis exasan h gia ekeinoys poy gia prwth fora zhtoyn thn ekdosh taytothtas. Ta deltia anagnwrishs twn politwn qa ekdoqoyn se poly mikro xroniko diasthma, efoson oloklhrwqei h praktikh doyleia poy prepei na ginei, dhladh, to typwma twn newn aytwn deltiwn. Alla, h doyleia ayth -prepei na poyme- exei, hdh, jekinhsei. Giati ta pistopoihtika poy ekdidontai, me to xarakthra ths proswrinothtas- einai symfwna me thn epilogh poy ekane h kybernhsh.

FILHS: Einai nea pistopoihtika ta proswrina h ta palaia aspra xartia;

REPPAS: Einai ta aspra xartia ta opoia prodiaqetoyn sto ti qa exei to neo deltio anagnwrishs twn politwn poy qa ekdoqei syntoma.

FILHS: Ma, ta aspra xartia den eixan ta ``epimaxa'' stoixeia;

REPPAS: Exoyn akribws ta aparaithta stoixeia. Sas eipa oti ta nea deltia, prokeitai na ekdoqoyn, efoson oloklhrwqei h praktikh doyleia. Se polles xiliades qa typwqoyn ayta ta antitypa. Mexri to telos toy mhna qa paralhfqei ena tmhma twn newn deltiwn.

MPEKAS: O k. Xristodoylos proeidopoihse ton ellhniko lao oti qa plhrwsei ton eksygxronismo. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: O eksygxronismos kai ws ennoia kai ws politikh exei mia qetikh shmasia. O ellhnikos laos, polla metra eksygxronistikhs politikhs gnwrise thn teleytaia periodo. Enekrine thn efarmogh aytwn twn metrwn, gi` ayto anedeije kai pali kybernhsh to PASOK kai Prwqypoyrgo ton Kwsta Shmith.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Anejarthtws apo th sygkentrwsh twn ypografwn kai to qema ths Ekklhsias, h kybernhsh skeftetai na energopoihsei to arqro toy Syntagmatos gia na arxisoyn oi diadikasies oti h Politeia na einai etoimh na kanei dhmochfismata, otan ekeinh krinei skopimo kai na mhn afhnei se opoiondhpote forea, eite legetai Ekklhsia, eite swmateio, na kanei aytoboylws sygkentrwsh ypografwn;

REPPAS: An qelete na syzhthsoyme kai se ena allo epipedo, mporw na pw oti ena nomiko proswpo, opws einai h Ekklhsia, den einai dynato na probainei se tetoies energeies. Kata ta alla, to qema twn dikaiwmatwn twn politwn den ypokeitai stoys kanones ths pleiochfias. Ta apotelesmata, opoioy dhmochfismatos mporei na ginei sto mellon, den mporei na aforoyn tis pepoiqhseis enos polith. Den einai dynaton ayto na apotelesei antikeimeno mias tetoias diadikasias. H kybernhsh, sto plaisio ths anaqewrhshs toy Syntagmatos, qa antimetwpisei ola ta sxetika qemata kai ekei dia ths pleiochfias qa ekfrasei tis qeseis ths.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ma, yparxei sto Syntagma, den yparxei;

REPPAS: Nai, alla apaiteitai orismenh diadikasia poy prepei na akoloyqhqei. To Syntagma gnwrizete oti syzhteitai kai pali. Ara, loipon, ayto to qema, an to qesei kapoios, mporei na erqei pali, di` aytoy toy tropoy, sthn epikairothta.

KOYRTAKHS: Yparxoyn plhrofories ton teleytaio kairo poy qeloyn ton k. Soyflia, pro twn pylwn toy PASOK.

REPPAS: O k. Soyflias exei mia aytonomh qetikh politikh paroysia sthn dhmosia zwh ths xwras. Den exei allazei otidhpote stis sxeseis ths kybernhshs h toy PASOK me ton k. Soyflia.

KOYRTAKHS: Yparxoyn kapoies epafes;

REPPAS: Den yparxei ek meroys ths kybernhshs h ek meroys toy PASOK opoiadhpote tetoia epikoinwnia politikoy xarakthra, etsi opws thn topoqeteite me thn erwthsh sas.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qelw na rwthsw ean o Prwqypoyrgos skeftetai na paei sto Sidnei;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Den exei labei tetoia apofash o Prwqypoyrgos. Den ton exei apasxolhsei tetoio qema.

FILHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean yparxei epikoinwnia ths kybernhshs h armodiwn yphresiwn me to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio, sxetika me thn episkech, idiwtikh h mh, toy prokaqhmenoy ths Orqodojhs Ekklhsias sthn Ellada;

REPPAS: Oi diplwmatikes yphresies ths xwras mas exoyn epikoinwnia me ton Oikoymeniko Patriarxh. Syzhtoyn ola ta qemata. Den exw, ayth thn wra, na anakoinwsw kati perissotero.

Sas eyxaristw.

SHMEIWSH: O Ypoyrgos Typoy & MME kai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos Dhmhtrhs Reppas qa paraxwrhsei, ayrio (19/9) stis 14.00, sto Zappeio Megaro, synenteyjh Typoy stoys syntaktes poy kalyptoyn to radiothleoptiko reportaz.

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