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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Septembrioy 2000

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes jekinhse kai epishma h ekstrateia ths Ekklhsias gia th syllogh ypografwn kai malista o Arxiepiskopos afhse kai enan ypainigmo oti, telos pantwn, o eksygxronismos kanei kako sthn ``pneymatikh ygeia'' twn Ellhnwn. Exete kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Sthn patrida mas oi apoceis ekfrazontai eleyqera. Den yparxei o opoiosdhpote elegxos h periorismos. H dhmokratia mas, omws, problepei @opws kaqorizetai allwste apo to Syntagma mas- oti h kybernhsh eklegetai apo to lao kai einai ayth poy kyberna, me bash tis politikes poy o ellhnikos laos exei chfisei. H poreia ths xwras kaqorizetai apo tis politikes twn organwn poy o laos me thn chfo toy, mesw ths kalphs, exei anadeijei.

BIDALH: Shmera o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn balletai apo ton Typo, me aformh tis dhlwseis Kofi Annan gia to Kypriako. An exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto@

REPPAS: To mono sxolio poy exw na kanw einai oti o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, o k. Giwrgos Papandreoy, einai prwtergaths ths ejwterikhs politikhs ths xwras mas kai exei prosferei shmantikes yphresies sto eqniko qema ths Kyproy. O k. Papandreoy, eyriskomenos aytes tis hmeres sth Nea Yorkh dipla sthn kypriakh hgesia, symballei me th dikh toy paroysia, dynamh, epirroh, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei to qema poy exei prokycei me ton kalytero kai pio wfelimo gia ta symferonta mas tropo.

Gnwrizete oti doqhkan kapoies dieykriniseis. H kypriakh kybernhsh anamenei apanthsh se epistolh poy exei steilei sto Geniko Grammatea toy OHE gia na kaqorisei thn telikh stash ths. H stash ths kypriakhs kybernhshs einai ayth poy pisteyoyme @opws panta ews twra- oti qa dwsei thn kalyterh apanthsh toso sth dhlwsh toy G.G., oso kai stis proklhseis ths Toyrkias kai twn Toyrkokypriwn. Mia apanthsh poy qa antapokrinetai sthn anagkh ths idias ths Kyproy na dei epiteloys to problhma ths, to politiko zhthma, na syzhteitai, na antimetwpizetai kai na lynetai.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, antilambanomaste oloi, alla ki eseis perissotero bebaia, oti h dhlwsh toy G.G. toy OHE katalyei sthn oysia thn Kypriakh Dhmokratia. H qesh poy briskomaste twra einai para poly sobarh kai sthn Kypro arxisan na akoygontai pleon fwnes mhpws efqase h wra twn megalwn apofasewn; Dhladh, ekeino to palio aithma ths Kyproy to opoio aporriptotan apo oles tis ellhnikes kybernhseis, mhpws einai h wra gia mia paneqnikh diaskech gia to Kypriako sthn opoia qa symmetasxoyn ola ta kommata ypo thn proedria toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Na baloyme mia nea grammh pleyshs gia to Kypriako prin einai poly arga.

REPPAS: Oson afora to qema ths dieqnoys ontothtas ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias den einai dynato na yparjei opoiadhpote allagh. H kypriakh kybernhsh ekproswpei nomimws thn Kypro. Einai h monh nomimh ekproswpos ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Den syzhteitai otidhpote allo. Den einai dynato na epitrecei opoiosdhpote thn anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys me opoiadhpote morfh.

Apo thn allh, gnwrizete poly kala oti h diadikasia twn syzhthsewn brisketai pragmatika se mia krisimh kamph. Ypo ayto to prisma ejetazei ta qemata h kypriakh hgesia. Emeis, meta apo synennohseis poy exoyn ginei metajy twn dyo kybernhsewn, eimaste sto pleyro ths kai pisteyoyme oti qa prajei to kalytero me gnwmona to eqniko symferon.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, grafetai kai legetai oti o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Elladas piezei thn kypriakh pleyra na paei se diapragmateyseis kai xwris na kanei o k. Annan nea dhlwsh. Giati piezei h Ellada;

REPPAS: Parakalw, na ejetazoyme ayta ta opoia leei kai kanei o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai oxi ayta ta opoia kykloforoyn ws fhmes. O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn den askei kamia piesh. O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn prosferei tis yphresies toy sto Ellhniko Eqnos, sthn Kypriakh Dhmokratia me ton kalytero tropo. Einai ekei aytes tis hmeres. Epikoinwnei me to G.G. toy OHE. Syzhta me ton Proedro ths Kyproy, ton k. Klhridh. Me ton kalytero tropo, loipon, h Ellada, h kybernhsh ths einai sto pleyro ths kypriakhs hgesias aytes tis krisimes stigmes. Kai epeidh, akribws, h periodos ayth exei polles pagides poy prepei na antimetwpistoyn, alla krybei kai eykairies poy isws prepei me epidejioys xeirismoys na tis entopisoyme gia na tis ajiopoihsoyme, prepei na eimaste oloi poly prosektikoi. Mhn paradoqoyme se fhmes. Mhn paradoqoyme se eykoles kataggelies. Kai afoy antimetwpisoyme, ayth thn periodo, ta problhmata poy yparxoyn, tote mporoyme na skeftoyme gia alla qemata, gia na epanelqw se ayta poy eipe prin o k. Kwnstantinidhs. Ola ayta den einai toy parontos. Ayth thn wra prepei na antimetwpisoyme ena poly sygkekrimeno qema. Kai prepei na to antimetwpisoyme me ton kalytero tropo.

KARGOYDH: Epibebaiwnete mia plhroforia oti yphrje aytes tis hmeres, dhladh meta th dhlwsh toy k. Annan, epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Asfalws, o Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnei me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn. Oloi epikoinwnoyme. O k. Papandreoy einai Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai epikoinwnei me to kentro, me thn Aqhna.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta apo ayta poy eipate sto synadelfo k. Gargalako, mporeite na mas peite ean ejakoloyqei h kybernhsh na qewrei thn Ekklhsia paraqrhskeytikh organwsh; Kai to deytero, pws krinete eseis meta ta osa elexqhsan sthn epitroph toy Syntagmatos kai sth Boylh kai se alla organa, sxetika me th diaplokh; Pws krinete eseis oti ayto to qema egine pleon qema satiras kai malista apo sygkekrimeno radiofwniko staqmo poy anametadidei ana mia wra tis dhlwseis sas kai apo katw to diafhmistiko slogkan@ Aleko k.tl.

REPPAS: Egw, k. Papadopoyle @kai mpainw sto deytero erwthma sas- gia ola ayta milhsa analytika tis prohgoymenes hmeres kai idiaiterws xqes. Gia logoys proswpikhs eyqijias den pairnw kamia prwtoboylia, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn qemata deontologias. Einai kati poy den me afora, giati den me aggizei. Epanalambanw, oti eipa ayto to opoio gnwrizw apo ta stoixeia poy exoyme sth diaqesh mas.

Oson afora to prwto erwthma sas, h Ekklhsia ths Elladas einai h Ekklhsia ths Elladas. Den einai paraqrhskeytikh organwsh. Kai epeidh den einai paraqrhskeytikh organwsh, den mporei na symperiferetai, polles fores, me xarakthristika tetoia sth leitoyrgia ths, ta opoia synhqws diepoyn th leitoyrgia paraqrhskeytikwn organwsewn. Ayto eipame kai se ayto paramenoyme.

TAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, boyleytes toy PASOK milhsan xqes me idiaiterws apajiwtikoys xarakthrismoys gia thn k. Aggelopoyloy. Malista, o k. Krhtikos th xarakthrise ws ``nea Freiderikh''. H kybernhsh problhmatizetai apo th symperifora ayth poy boyleytes toy PASOK xrewnoyn sthn k. Aggelopoyloy kai pws sxoliazei aytes tis antidraseis;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala, oti opws oloi oi polites, poly perissotero oi boyleytes poy ekproswpoyn toys polites exoyn th dynatothta na ekfrazoyn eleyqera tis apoceis toys. H k. Aggelopoyloy apotelei epilogh poy exei epikrothqei apo th megalh pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy, giati exei th sthrijh twn politikwn kommatwn. Ayto einai gnwsto kai se esas kai se oloys. Apo ekei kai pera einai fanero oti sth diarkeia ths mexri twra qhteias ths exei antimetwpisei epityxws polla problhmata poy eixan sysswreytei. Den nomizw oti prepei na astynomeysoyme tis apoceis h tis kritikes poy diatypwnontai. Apo thn allh, omws, qa prepei na epanalaboyme kai pali thn empistosynh poy deixnoyme sto proswpo ths k. Aggelopoyloy, giati pisteyoyme oti einai to katallhlo stelexos gia na ferei se peras to toso dyskolo ergo poy ths exei anateqei.

TAKHS: Gkriza shmeia se ayth thn poreia ths k. Aggelopoyloy, apo tote poy egine proedros toy "2004", ews shmera, entopizete eseis;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti einai epityxhs h paroysia ths. Exoyn antimetwpistei problhmata. Apo ekei kai pera, ola ta qemata einai pros syzhthsh. Den yparxei oydeis -oyte kan o Proedros ths Dhmokratias poy, ek toy Syntagmatos, gnwrizete oti den prepei na ypokeitai se kritikh kai elegxo- sth Dhmokratia mas, o opoios na einai ektos kritikhs kai elegxoy. To gnwrizete poly kala ayto. Einai stoixeio ths Dhmokratias mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dieykrinistika. Ola ta politika kommata eipate;

REPPAS: Eipa, politika kommata. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, toylaxiston, ta dyo megala kommata exoyn ekfrasei th qetikh qesh toys, oson afora thn epilogh ths k. Aggelopoyloy.

MPOTWNHS: H k. Aggelopoyloy, me tis xqesines dhlwseis ths, afhnei na fanei oti yparxei mia dysareskeia, mia pikria apo ayta poy exoyn ginei sthn Aqhna. Kai malista, milaei gia kapoia empodia poy yparxoyn se ayth thn poreia poy exei ws proedros, gia na oloklhrwsei to ergo ths. Einai kai sth kybernhsh aytoi oi paragontes poy empodizoyn thn k. Aggelopoyloy;

REPPAS: Gia ayto to qema apanthsa, xqes. Oxi mono den yparxei empodio, alla, antiqetws, yparxei h diaqesh bohqeias, prosforas, prokeimenoy ayth h eqnikh ypoqesh, h diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, na odhghqei se ena aisio apotelesma. To gnwrizei ayto kai h idia h k. Aggelopoyloy, h opoia synexizei to ergo ths, kataballontas megalh pragmati prospaqeia gia na exei epityxes apotelesma h prospaqeia ayth. Kai h kybernhsh, opws pantote mexri twra, synexizei na einai sto pleyro ths. Den yparxei, loipon, opoiosdhpote logos diastashs h opoiosdhpote logos gia ermhneies oi opoies den aphxoyn thn pragmatikothta.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ystera apo ayta poy eipate gia thn k. Aggelopoyloy, diaisqanomai oti afhnete akalypth th lektikh ayqairesia toy k. Pagkaloy, alla kai genikotera th qesh ths kybernhshs gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes.

REPPAS: Ti ennoeite, akribws;

PAPADOPOYLOS: Oti bgainei o k. Pagkalos kai leei ayta poy leei kai meta ta pairnei pisw kai ta kanei "gargara", syggnwmh gia thn ekfrash@

REPPAS: Den symfwnw mazi sas. Parakalw poly, na anatrejete stis dhlwseis poy ekane, xqes, o k. Pagkalos kai tis apanthseis poy edwsa se synafeis erwthseis. Qa deite oti eipame akribws to idio pragma. Dwsame, akribws, tis idies apanthseis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Poios ekproswphse thn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Eipame, apo thn prwth mera, oti einai ekei o kaq` ylhn armodios yfypoyrgos Aqlhtismoy, o k. Flwridhs kai h hgesia toy "Aqhna 2004". H ekproswphsh einai plhrhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn alloi kratikoi leitoyrgoi poy na pairnoyn toys misqoys aytoys poy dinei o Organismos toy "2004";

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw poioi einai oi misqoi poy problepontai gia diafora stelexh poy kalyptoyn diafores qeseis toy Dhmosioy kai toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizete, an pairnoyn tosa h kai perissotera, kapoioi;

REPPAS: Ma, den gnwrizw kai posa pairnoyn kai oi sygkekrimenoi stoys opoioys anafereste. Ta sygkekrimena posa den ta gnwrizw. Ola ayta, apoteloyn qema syzhthshs kai gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxei mia ekkremothta, h opoia qa antimetwpistei, meta thn oloklhrwsh ths Olympiadas, metajy toy armodioy ypoyrgoy kai ths hgesias toy "2004". Gi` ayta ta qemata milhsa me leptomereies, xqes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den rwtw, ayto. Rwtw, an yparxoyn alloi kratikoi leitoyrgoi, diorismenoi apo thn kybernhsh, poy na pairnoyn ta idia h perissotera xrhmata.. Ayto o ypoyrgos Politismoy qa to cajei;

REPPAS: Apanthsa se ayto, prin. Mporei na to cajete eseis apo to reportaz. Den mporeite na apeyqynqeite se mia Trapeza, prokeimenoy na plhroforhqeite poioi einai oi misqoi twn Dioikhtwn twn Trapezwn; Den mporeite na apeyqynqeite stoys megaloys Organismoys toy eyryteroy dhmosioy tomea;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis den to jerete;

REPPAS: Einai gnwsta ayta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den ta lete, tote;

REPPAS: Giati den gnwrizw me leptomereies. Me rwtate na sas pw poio einai to misqodotiko kaqestws twn stelexwn kaqenos Organismoy;

KARASABBA: O misqos toy k. Pagkaloy;

REPPAS: O misqos toy k. Pagkaloy einai o misqos toy Ellhna boyleyth, me tis apozhmiwseis poy problepontai gia toys ypoyrgoys.

KARASABBA: O opoios einai;

REPPAS: Kymainetai sto 1.500.000 draxmes.

TAKHS: O Prwqypoyrgos giati episkefqhke to prwi ena sxoleio;

REPPAS: Me rwtate ta aytonohta. O Prwqypoyrgos qewrhse skopimo na kanei ayth thn episkech, prokeimenoy na diapistwsei pws jekinhse h leitoyrgia enos sxoleioy.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean o prwhn ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Karolos Papoylias exei dexqei prosklhsh toy Beligradioy na metasxei ws parathrhths stis ekloges poy qa ginoyn ekei, stis 24 Septembrioy. An nai, poioys alloys parathrhtes qa steilei h ellhnikh pleyra;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw tipota sxetiko. Oson afora to prwto, parakalw apeyqynqeite ston k. Papoylia.

SOYRMELH: Ayto den einai problhma toy k. Papoylia, alla ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Kanete megalo laqos. An qelete na syzhthsoyme pio ektetamena, h ellhnikh kybernhsh -gnwrizete poly kala- einai h monh kybernhsh ths opoias o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn exei episkefqei, prosfata kiolas, th Gioygkoslabia kai eixe syzhthsh me thn hgesia ths geitonikhs xwras. Ayto shmainei oti h Ellada einai mia xwra h opoia mporei na ephreasei tis dieqneis ejelijeis. Giati, o Ellhnas ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn eqese qemata dhmokratikwn diadikasiwn sthn hgesia ths Gioygkoslabias kai kalese thn hgesia ths na symbalei, wste oi epikeimenes ekloges na ginoyn me tetoio tropo, poy na odhgei se mh amfisbhthsh toy apotelesmatos. Ara, apedwse ek prooimioy eyqynes se oloys ekeinoys -kai sthn hgesia ths Gioygkoslabias- poy qa epixeirhsoyn na ephreasoyn, kata ton ena h allo tropo, me antidhmokratikes meqodoys to apotelesma. Kata ta alla, h Dieqnhs Koinothta parakoloyqei tis ejelijeis sth Gioygkoslabia kai pairnei ta metra ths. Sto plaisio, loipon, twn opoiwn prwtoboyliwn, qa einai paroysa kai h Ellada. Ara, loipon -epeidh eiste antapokritria jenoy praktoreioy kai qa jerete an h gallikh kybernhsh, fer` eipein, steilei ekproswpoys- h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa kanei ayto poy qa kanoyn kai oi alles xwres ths Eyrwphs, meta apo diaboyleyseis me thn E.E.

SOYRMELH: Apo th syzhthsh poy eixe o k. Papandreoy, sto Beligradi, ti proekyce se sxesh me toys parathrhtes; Den qeloyn ton OASA; Qa dextoyn alloys; Ti egine ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Einai qema to opoio, meta apo synennohsh me toys etairoys, h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa antimetwpisei kai qa kanei otidhpote, prokeimenoy h xwra mas na einai paroysa, proballontas tis qeseis ths, me gnwmona to eqniko symferon, alla kai to symferon twn kratwn ths eyryterhs perioxhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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