Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-11-26

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 26 Noembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Synexizetai h periodeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sthn Krhth. Me aformh dhmosieymata stis shmerines efhmerides, exei probei se sxetikh dhlwsh:. Exoyme dhlwsei, kat epanalhch, th qesh mas. H paroysa Boylh mporei kai prepei na eklejei Proedro Dhmokratias kai oi ekloges prepei na diejaxqoyn sto telos ths qhteias ayths ths Boylhs.

To prwto ejamhno toy epomenoy etoys einai krisimo. Ena poly shmantiko zhthma gia th xwra mas, ena qema to opoio qa kaqorisei thn poreia mas, gia polla xronia, h entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE, qa teqei sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn, sto plaisio ths E. E., gia na lhfqei h oristikh apofash. Mia apofash poy prosdokoyme na einai qetikh, na antapokrinetai stis prospaqeies kai tis qysies poy ekane h kybernhsh kai to synolo toy ellhnikoy laoy ta teleytaia xronia. Apaiteitai, loipon, ena staqero politiko, koinwniko kai oikonomiko periballon, to opoio qa eynohsei thn prospaqeia ths xwras mas kai den qa odhghsei se perispasmoys, den qa adynatisei to metwpo ayths ths eqnikhs prospaqeias. Ayth einai h safhs qesh mas kai kaloyme oles tis politikes dynameis na analaboyn tis eyqynes toys, na yposthrijoyn ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, ton k. Stefanopoylo, gia mia nea qhteia, prokeimenoy na mh xreiastei na odhghqoyme se dialysh ths Boylhs kai ekloges.

* Ekfrazoyme th lyph mas gia to qanato toy dhmosiografoy Dhmhtrh Giannarakoy, poy, me sobarothta, gia polla xronia, yphrethse to agaqo ths enhmerwshs. Ekfrazoyme ta syllyphthria mas stoys oikeioys toy.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Apokleietai -symfwna kai me th dhlwsh sas kai me dhlwsh poy ekane nwritera o Prwqypoyrgos- na analabete eseis prwtoboylia gia prowres ekloges. Wstoso, einai safes oti paramenei akoma asafes to ti qa kanei h N. D. ws pros thn proedrikh eklogh. Qelw na sas rwthsw eyqews: Dedomenoy oti ta metra poy pairnontai kaqhmerina kai ejaggellontai, deixnoyn oti antimetwpizetai to endexomeno prowrwn eklogwn: Qelete eseis h eyqynh ayth gia th dialysh ths Boylhs na katalogistei se ayton poy qa parei ayth thn prwtoboylia;

REPPAS: Emeis den epiqymoyme dialysh ths Boylhs. Ayto einai safes. Prepei na to labete ypoch sas gia kaqe analysh h sxoliasmo. Apo ekei kai pera, h N. D. exei labei safh qesh enantion ths anadeijhs toy shmerinoy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, toy k. Stefanopoyloy, kai pali se ayto to ajiwma, gia mia nea qhteia. Exei, bebaiws, dhlwsei o arxhgos ths N. D. oti qa anakoinwsei thn telikh qesh toy kommatos sto telos Ianoyarioy. Moy dinete thn eykairia na pw oti polla stelexh ths N. D., palaiotera kai prosfata, qewroyn -to dhlwnoyn dhmosiws ayto, allwste- pws h apofash toy kommatos toys prepei na lhfqei me gnwmona to kommatiko symferon. Einai adianohto, kata th dikh mas apoch, to kommatiko symferon na prytaneyei se tetoioy eidoys epiloges, oi opoies einai shmantikes gia thn poreia ths xwras. To eqniko symferon, to syllogiko koinwniko symferon einai ayto to opoio prepei na epikratei stis epiloges mas. Anamenoyme, loipon, na aposafhnisoyn ola ta kommata tis qeseis toys. Emeis mporei na analaboyme sxetikes prwtoboylies, efoson bebaiws yparxoyn proypoqeseis na ekdhlwqei mia antapokrish apo thn allh pleyra. H N. D. ayth thn wra, opoia prwtoboylia kai an analhfqei, mporei kallista na pei "egw kyrioi sas parapempw, sto teloys toy mhnos Ianoyarioy, poy exw dhlwsei oti qa anakoinwsw th dikh moy qesh". Arkei h telikh qesh na mhn einai ayth poy oi perissoteroi eikazoyn, mia qesh h opoia erxetai se eyqeia antiqesh me to symferon ths xwras.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Qelw na rwthsw gia ton Otsalan: Giati me thn troph poy pairnei ayth h ypoqesh deixnei oti mia merida toy toyrkikoy katesthmenoy grafei sta palaiotera twn ypodhmatwn ths ta krithria poy tiqentai apo thn E. E. ws pros toys oroys epilejimothtas kai den eidame kapoia prwtoboylia apo thn pleyra toy politikoy katesthmenoy, poy na xalarwnei th xqesinh apofash. H erwthsh moy einai h ejhs: Eseis, ligotero apo 15 hmeres pros to Elsinki, qewreite oti h ejelijh ayth enisxyei ta epixeirhmata kai th diplwmatikh qesh ths xwras ws pros thn toyrkikh ypochfiothta, me dedomeno malista oti ayth h apofash gia na lhfqei prepei na yparxei omofwnia;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto ekana ena sxetiko sxolio, xqes, apantwntas se erwthsh. Sas parapempw, epishs, stis dhlwseis poy ekane o Filandos Prwqypoyrgos. Einai h qesh ths E. E., h opoia mas ekfrazei. Exoyme topoqethqei, me ton pleon kathgorhmatiko tropo, enantion ths qanatikhs poinhs. Pisteyoyme oti den prepei na efarmostei h apofash ayth. Th qesh ayth prepei na labei poly sobara ypoch ths h Toyrkia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qelw na rwthsw: Xqes to brady, sto Ektelestiko Grafeio den syzhthsane gia ekloges tipota;

REPPAS: H qesh mas einai safhs. Oles oi syzhthseis, eite dhmosiws, eite sta kybernhtika kai kommatika organa, exoyn bash to sxediasmo, o opoios, metajy twn allwn, problepei ekloges sto telos ths qhteias ayths ths Boylhs. Gnwrizoyme, bebaiws, giati se ayth th xwra zoyme, poioi einai oi problhmatismoi poy anaptyssontai sta alla politika kommata, den toys agnooyme. Alla h dikh mas politikh kai eqnikh eyqynh odhgei se ayth thn epilogh, thn opoia kai shmera, gia mia akomh fora, epanelabe dhmosiws o Prwqypoyrgos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma, ayto to sxediasmo ton kanete dyo xronia prin tis ekloges, dhladh;

REPPAS: Ti sas enoxlei, dhladh; Oti eimaste ena komma, ana pasa stigmh etoimopolemo; Sas enoxlei ayto;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati kaqe fora poy synedriazoyn ta organa, syzhtoyn gia ekloges. Erwthsh: Syzhthsan, xqes, sto Ektelestiko Grafeio, gia ekloges, o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Qewroyme oti oi ekloges prepei na ginoyn sto telos ths qhteias mas, to Septembrh toy 2000. Ayth einai h syzhthsh poy ginetai. Apo ekei kai pera, exoyme pei dhmosiws -kai epanalambanw kai edw- oti asfalws eimaste ana pasa stigmh etoimoi gia ekloges. Den fobomaste tis ekloges. Opote kai opws ki an ginoyn ekloges, qa tis kerdisei to PASOK. Alla, bebaiws, emeis epiqymoyme -ayth einai h qesh mas kai se ayth thn kateyqynsh ergazomaste- oi ekloges na ginoyn sto telos ths qhteias ayths ths Boylhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akoma. Eipate oti polla kommatika stelexh ths N. D. protassoyn to kommatiko symferon, oson afora thn epilogh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias. Eseis ti balate ws symferon, otan proteinate thn epaneklogh toy k. Stefanopoyloy, ena xrono prin lhjei h qhteia toy;

REPPAS: H apo oloys omologoymenh acogh askhsh twn kaqhkontwn apo ton k. Stefanopoylo, nomizw oti den epitrepei dilhmmata. Aposafhnizei to topio, wste na mh xreiazetai na dapanoyme xrono kai politikes dynameis, prokeimenoy na laboyme thn telikh qesh mas. Oles oi politikes dynameis, afoy anagnwrizoyn ton tropo me ton opoio askei ta kaqhkonta toy o Proedros ths Dhmokratias ws acogo kai teleio, logiko einai sthn prajh, metaferontas ayth th qesh toys, na yposthrijoyn ton k. Stefanopoylo gia mia nea qhteia. Den to kanoyn. Emeis, epeidh akribws h xronikh stigmh sthn opoia prepei na eklegei o neos Proedros ths Dhmokratias, einai h stigmh kata thn opoia h Ellada qa krinetai gia ena shmantiko ws pros thn poreia ths pros to mellon qema, qewrhsame pws to qema ths ekloghs Proedroy ths Dhmokratias qa prepei na antimetwpistei apo oloys -afoy allwste exoyn ekdhlwmenh th qesh toys gia to proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias kai gia to qesmo- etsi wste h prospaqeia mas na epikentrwqei sto megalo ayto eqniko stoxo. Allwste den yparxei opoiadhpote diaforopoihsh kai diafwnia ws pros to proswpo toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ena xrono prin;

REPPAS: Den einai enas xronos prin, einai ligoi mhnes prin kai pantws, einai h katallhlh stigmh poy epikairws emeis -kai ta alla kommata pisteyoyme- eprepe na laboyme qesh. Kai ayto kaname.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote anakoinwse o k. Shmiths oti qa proteinei ton k. Stefanopoylo;

REPPAS: Mporei na sas enoxlei ayto, alla einai h alhqeia. Kai asfalws sas enoxlei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To kanate gia na ton "kacete"; Gi ayto to kanate.

REPPAS: Kanete megalo laqos. Aytoi oi opoioi apodeiknyoyn synepeia logwn kai ergwn, nomizw oti den prepei na kathgoroyntai. Prepei na katakrinontai aytoi oi opoioi, enw miloyn me qetiko logo, sthn prajh arnoyntai th chfo toys pros to proswpo gia to opoio miloyn me toso kolakeytika logia. Aytoys prepei na elegjete kai na katakrinete kai oxi emas poy exoyme mia syneph stash.

MPEKOS: Eipate pio prin oti qa analabete prwtoboylies. Ennoeite oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa zhthsei na synanthqei me toys....;

REPPAS: Den ennow tipota. Aplws, den apekleisa tipota.

MPEKOS: Kai gia poio xroniko diasthma;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h N. D. exei anakoinwsei pws qa kanei gnwsth th qesh ths sto telos Ianoyarioy. Antilambaneste pws se opoiadhpote dikh mas prwtoboylia mporei kallista o arxhgos ths N. D. na apanthsei "egw kyrioi exw pei pws sto telos Ianoyarioy qa anakoinwsw th dikh moy qesh. Anamenete, tote, na ginei gnwsth h qesh ayth". Ara, loipon, h analhch opoiasdhpote prwtoboylias mporei na ginei, efoson yparxoyn kai oi proypoqeseis, antapokrishs se ayth thn prwtoboylia. Ola ayta einai qemata ta opoia, opws kai sto parelqon ta syzhthsame, etsi kai shmera ta antimetwpizoyme ypo to analogo prisma.

GARGALAKOS: Plhrofories feroyn na exei dhmioyrghqei krish stis sxeseis toy Eqnikoy Radiothleoptikoy Symboylioy kai toy ypoyrgoy Typoy. Exete kapoio sxolio ep aytoy;

REPPAS: Diabazw kai akoyw polla -giati epishmws apo to organo den exw enhmerwqei- kai lypamai gia th stash stelexwn toy ESR. Apodeiknyoyn oti den to antilambanontai ws anejarthth arxh, alla eite ws kommatiko organo, eite ws syndikalistiko organo, eite ws organo gia proswpikh probolh.

Afoy den mporoyn kapoioi na perifroyrhsoyn ayto to kyros, ofeilw na to kanw egw. Gi' ayto apefyga na parakoloyqhsw ayth thn taktikh. Ayto den shmainei oti den exw polla na pw h na gracw. Antiqetws, exoyme kai gnwsh kai qesh. Fainetai, allwste, apo th doyleia poy exoyme kanei se ayton ton tomea gia thn opoia prokalw se sygkrish opoiondhpote. Epanalambanw opoiondhpote. To mono qema poy anekyce einai h diafwnia se ena episthmoniko nomiko zhthma. To Ypoyrgeio exei th qesh oti se ena eynomoymeno kratos den epitrepetai h anadromikh epibolh kyrwsewn. To ESR pisteyei oti ayto epitrepetai, oti mporei dhladh na epiballontai kyrwseis anadromikws. Ara, loipon, to qema einai an epitrepetai, opws leei to ESR, h den epitrepetai opws pisteyoyme emeis h anadromikh epibolh mias kyrwshs. Aytos einai o pyrhnas ths diafwnias mas. Apo kei kai pera, einai qema toy idioy toy ESR na epilhfqei ek neoy twn ypoqesewn kai na epiballei kyrwseis -oi opoies omws qa problepontai sto isxyon gia thn krisimh periodo nomiko plaisio- peran ths apofashs twn prostimwn poy exw epikyrwsei ws nomimh kai exw hdh ekdwsei opws eixa ypoxrewsh symfwna me to n. 2644/98.

Gia ta qemata ayta milhsa diejodika sth Boylh, alla epeidh h wra htan 3 to prwi elaxistoi eixan th dynatothta na me akoysoyn. Gi' ayto qa analabw ek neoy sxetikh prwtoboylia. Alla den prokeitai na probw se paraplhroforhsh kai anakribeies, giati polla eida na grafontai aytes tis hmeres. Egw den prokeitai na parw "ston laimo moy" synadelfoys sas dhmosiografoys.

Emeis edw exoyme poly doyleia na kanoyme kai den exoyme xrono na diaqesoyme gia to an "kineitai h gh".

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Kaklamanhs sas enhmerwse gia thn epistolh poy phre;

REPPAS: Exw syxnotath epikoinwnia me ton k. Kaklamanh gia polla qemata kai gi ayto. Den exw labei opoiadhpote epistolh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi an labate eseis epistolh. O k. Kaklamanhs exei labei epistolh. Gia to periexomeno ayths ths epistolhs sas enhmerwse;

REPPAS: Ma, to periexomeno kapoias epistolhs, to exw plhroforhqei apo tis efhmerides. Oi idioi oi opoioi apesteilan thn epistolh den thn koinopoihsan ston ypoyrgo Typoy. Thn exoyn, omws, dwsei se dhmosiografoys, prokeimenoy na th sxoliasoyn kata thn ekdoxh, h opoia prosferetai apo toys idioys toys epistolografoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytoys toys opoioys exei diorisei h kybernhsh ws melh toy ESR, prokeitai na toys antikatasthsei;

REPPAS: Mia poly shmantikh ptyxh ths leitoyrgias toy ESR einai kai ayth: Oti to kybernwn komma exei proteinei gia th stelexwsh toy ESR proswpikothtes kyroys, poy den exoyn organwtikh h allh sxesh me ayto poy ta ypedeije. Ayto deixnei poso sebomaste thn aytonomia toy ESR, se antiqesh me alla kommata ta opoia ypedeijan ychlobaqma kommatika stelexh gia th stelexwsh toy ESR, me apotelesma na blepoyme thn ekdosh anakoinwsewn h dhlwsewn melwn toy Organoy aytoy, me kommatikh sfragida h apo to grafeio Typoy kommatwn. Kai kata alla, oloi koptontai yper ths anejarthths dioikhths arxhs poy einai to ESR. Ayta einai tragelafika pragmata. Oydepote exoyn ginei sto parelqon. Kalw oloys, me cyxraimo kai ypeyqyno tropo, na perifroyrhsoyme to kyros toy ESR.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta stelexh poy proteinate eseis einai xamhlobaqma kommatika stelexh;

REPPAS: Den exoyn kamia symmetoxh sthn kommatikh ierarxia. Apolytws kamia. Kai ayth einai h alhqeia.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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