Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-11-29

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 29 Noembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy kata tis prosexeis meres.

* Ayth thn wra, o Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai me ton epikefalhs ths Organwtikhs Epitrophs gia thn Olympiada toy 2004, ypodioikhth ths Trapezas ths Ellados k. Takh Qwmopoylo.

* Ayrio stis 10 to prwi, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa synedriasei h Epitroph gia thn Koinwnia ths Plhroforias.

* Thn Tetarth to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei sta grafeia ths, epi ths odoys Omhroy, thn Anejarthth Arxh gia thn Prostasia twn Proswpikwn Dedomenwn, ths opoias Proedros einai o k. Dafermos. Thn idia hmera, to apogeyma, qa labei meros sthn kaloymenh "wra toy Prwqypoyrgoy", apantwntas se dyo epikaires erwthseis, ths k. Damanakh kai toy k. Diamantidh. Ths k. Damanakh gia to problhma twn narkwtikwn kai toy k. Diamantidh gia qemata poy aforoyn toys syntajioyxoys.

* Thn Pempth episkeptetai thn Ellada, oloklhrwnontas to gyro twn prwteyoyswn, o Proedreywn toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy Prwqypoyrgos ths Filandias k. Likonen, o opoios qa exei synergasia me ton Prwqypoyrgo, meta tis 3.30, otan qa erqei sthn Ellada. Qa prohghqei h synergasia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me thn hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, gia to fakelo poy afora th Synodo Koryfhs toy Elsinki.

* Thn Paraskeyh qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, to opoio qa asxolhqei me to qema ths apasxolhshs. Eishghths qa einai o armodios ypoyrgos Ergasias. H syzhthsh qa sthrizetai sto eqniko sxedio drashs gia thn apasxolhsh poy katartizetai gia deyterh fora fetos. Thn idia hmera, to apogeyma, qa synedriasei h Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK. Oi ergasies ths Synodoy ths K. E. qa oloklhrwqoyn thn epomenh mera.

* Th Deytera, o Prwqypoyrgos qa metabei sth Qessalonikh, opoy qa labei meros sth Synodo toy Symboylioy Apodhmoy Ellhnismoy poy diejagetai sth symprwteyoysa kai qa ekfwnhsei logo.

* Thn epomenh Trith, to brady, exei problefqei omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto Ellhnoamerikaniko Epimelhthrio. Einai h omilia poy ginetai kaqe xrono.

Menw se ayta gia thn wra. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARGOYDH: Mia dieykrinish parakalw. Kata thn episkech toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth Qessalonikh, qa einai kai o k. Klhridhs;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw an qa einai o k. Klhridhs. O Proedros ths Dhmokratias gnwrizw oti qa einai sth Qessalonikh kai qa khryjei thn enarjh twn ergasiwn.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: H Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK ti qemata qa syzhthsei;

REPPAS: Qa syzhthsei ta qemata ths politikhs sygkyrias, thn politikh anasygkrothshs toy Kinhmatos kai alla qemata epikairothtas.

MIXAHL: Pote problepei h kybernhsh oti qa ginoyn ekloges; Diabasame para polla ston Typo, oti qa ginoyn ton Martio, meta ton Martio, nwritera. Telika pote qa ginoyn ekloges;

REPPAS: Oi ekloges prepei na ginoyn to Septembrio toy 2000. Oydeis qetei qema prowrwn eklogwn. To PASOK, h kybernhsh exoyn kanei safh th qesh toys oti prepei na oloklhrwqei o kyklos qhteias ayths ths kybernhshs. Ta alla kommata -kai h N. D. - den qetoyn qema prowrhs prosfyghs stis kalpes. Den zhtoyn apo thn kybernhsh na proxwrhsoyme se ekloges. Asfalws h N. D., me aformh th diadikasia ekloghs Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, qetei qema prowrwn eklogwn, me th qesh oti qa arnhqei chfo pros ton ypochfio Proedro ths Dhmokratias gia mia nea qhteia, ton k. Stefanopoylo -ton opoio apo kairo exei ypodeijei kai yposthrizei h kybernhtikh paratajh- mono kai mono, epeidh kata th N. D. prepei to syntomotero dynato na ginoyn ekloges gia na apomakrynqei -ayto isxyrizetai- h kybernhsh, h opoia episwreyei, opws leei h N. D., tosa deina gia ton topo. Alla, epishmws, mexri twra toylaxiston, h N. D. den exei zhthsei apo thn kybernhsh na prosfygoyme se dialysh ths Boylhs kai se ekloges. Ara, oydeis ayth thn wra qetei qema prowrwn eklogwn.

GARGALAKOS: Exei qesei o k. Mhtsotakhs...

REPPAS: Ennow oti oydeis exei qesei qema, mesw ths koinoboyleytikhs syntagmatikhs diadikasias poy problepetai gia kati analogo.

MIXAHL: O Prwqypoyrgos exei ginei dekths eishghsewn poy lene oti prepei na ejetasei to endexomeno prowrhs prosfyghs stis kalpes;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, molis proxtes, sthn Krhth, diatypwse kai pali th qesh ths kybernhshs oti oi ekloges prepei na diejaxqoyn sto telos ths tetraetias, to Septembrio dhladh toy 2000.

MIXAHL: Dhladh diaceydete ola ta xqesina dhmosieymata;

REPPAS: Epanalambanw th safh kai kathgorhmatikh qesh mas. Pisteyoyme oti oi ekloges prepei na dienerghqoyn to Septembrio toy 2000. Emeis epiqymoyme mia synainetikh anadeijh toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias gia mia nea qhteia. H xwra mas exei ajio Proedro ths Dhmokratias. H Boylh ayth mporei kai prepei na anadeijei Proedro ths Dhmokratias, wste h xwra na odhghqei se ekloges sto telos ths tetraetias.

MIXAHL: Qelete na kanete ena sxolio gia oles tis dhmoskophseis poy eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas shmera kyriws, alla kai merikes to Sabbato;

REPPAS: Oi metrhseis, oi ereynes ths koinhs gnwmhs, otan ginontai me episthmoniko tropo, einai poly xrhsima ergaleia. Emeis, opws kat' epanalhch exoyme tonisei, den prokeitai na ypotaxqoyme sth gohteia, sth saghnh twn dhmoskophsewn, oso kales kai an einai gia mas. Giati ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai na ergastoyme me synepeia kai apotelesmatikothta gia na ejasfalisoyme thn chfo twn politwn sthn kalph. Ayto epidiwkoyme. Giati oi polites, me thn chfo toys, anadeiknyoyn tis kybernhseis, oxi oi dhmoskophseis. Kata ta alla, to politiko klima einai fanero oti exei ginei para poly qetiko gia th dikh mas prospaqeia. Dikaiologeitai kaqe aisiodojia. Kai gnwrizete oti h aisiodojia sthn politikh prospaqeia einai enas poly kalos symboylos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti mexri stigmhs h N. D. den exei zhthsei prosfygh stis kalpes. An sas to zhthsei qa to dexqeite;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, kat epanalhch, gia diafora qemata diatypwnei protaseis. Den exei ejasfalisei, ek twn proterwn, thn apodoxh twn protasewn ths apo thn kybernhsh. Den qelei, dhladh, thn egkrish ths kybernhshs gia na diatypwsei kapoies protaseis. Ayto einai kai to nohma ths leitoyrgias ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Na diatypwnei protaseis kai aithmata. Qema prowrhs prosfyghs stis kalpes, den exei qesei mexri twra h N. D. Epanalambanw, oti den exei teqei tetoio qema me thn epishmh koinoboyleytikh syntagmatikh diadikasia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws oti den mas exei qesei tetoio qema h N. D...

REPPAS: Ayto einai h alhqeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ama sas qesei. H apanthsh sas poia einai;

REPPAS: Ma, giati na kanoyme ayth thn ypoqetikh syzhthsh; As qesei qema h N. D. kai qa labei apanthsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Leei, oti den thn peirazei.

REPPAS: Ma, an den mporei na qesei tetoio qema h N. D., giati na to syzhtoyme; As qesei qema h N. D., gia na labei apanthsh. H N. D. ws ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh gia polla qemata diatypwnei protaseis. Exei ejasfalisei ek twn proterwn thn apodoxh twn protasewn ths apo thn kybernhsh; Ara, giati tis diatypwnei; Panta yparxei to endexomeno na aporrifqoyn oi protaseis ths. Ayto shmainei oti den prepei na diatypwnei protaseis; Kai gia to sygkekrimeno qema, mporei na diatypwsei aithma, mporei na diatypwsei protash. Den to kanei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exoyn kanei dhlwseis kai h hgesia ths N. D. kai stelexh ths, kai ayrio na ginoyn ekloges, to syntomotero dynaton. Ti apantate;

REPPAS: Eipa prin, oti h N. D., me aformh th diadikasia ekloghs Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, qewrei pws prepei na katachfistei o k. Stefanopoylos gia na odhghqoyme se ekloges, epeidh kata th N. D., mesw twn eklogwn, qa apomakrynqei h kybernhsh apo thn ejoysia. Ayto einai to politiko sxedio ths N. D., opws toylaxiston exei paroysiastei epishmws apo diaforoys ekproswpoys ths kai apo ton arxhgo ths. Antilambaneste th sobarothta kai thn ypeyqynothta poy exoyn oloi ekeinoi oi opoioi diatypwnoyn tetoioy eidoys protaseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayth einai h kanonikh poreia. Den lene mesw ths ekloghs toy Proedroy. Lene kai ayrio na ginoyn ekloges...

REPPAS: Mono poy den tis zhtoyn. Opws polla alla pragmata ta opoia syzhtoyn, xwris na ta qetoyn, mesw twn epishmwn diadikasiwn, pros thn kybernhsh, enw bebaiws yparxoyn kai qemata ta opoia ta topoqetoyn sthn orqh syntagmatikh koinoboyleytikh bash kai apoteloyn antikeimeno syzhthshs kai ereynas. To sygkekrimeno qema, h apaithsh, dhladh, na prosfygoyme se prowres ekloges, den exei teqei apo th N. D.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti apantate stis paraineseis toy Mperns na xarakthristei twra entajimh xwra h Toyrkia;

REPPAS: O amerikanos presbhs epanalambanei tis qeseis ths xwra toy gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apeyqynetai sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Ti apantate;

REPPAS: Synenteyjh dinei, dhlwsh kanei. Otan kapoios milaei, ekfrazei tis dikes toy apoceis. Den ekfrazei apoceis allwn. Den qa eixe nohma na milhsei ekfrazontas tis apoceis mias allhs kybernhshs. Tis apoceis ths kybernhshs twn HPA ekfrazei. Emeis ekfrazoyme tis dikes mas apoceis me egkyro tropo, thn katallhlh stigmh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti toy apantate;

REPPAS: Qa apanthsoyme otan erqei ekeinh h wra, sto Elsinki, sth Synodo Koryfhs, poy qa laboyme thn telikh qesh mas, me gnwmona to eqniko symferon kai thn enarmonish toy eqnikoy symferontos me tis prooptikes ths E. E. Me aformh th dikh sas erwthsh, moy dinetai h dynatothta na kanw ena genikotero sxolio: Emeis exoyme, kat epanalhch, tonisei oti epiqymoyme ton eyrwpaiko prosanatolismo ths Toyrkias. Ergazomaste se ayth thn kateyqynsh. Alla, prepei na ergazontai oloi pros thn idia kateyqynsh. Kai bebaia na ergazetai kai h Toyrkia pros thn kateyqynsh ayth. Giati epiqymoyme h ypochfiothta ths Toyrkias na einai oysiastikh. Kai ayto shmainei oti qa prepei na einai oysiastikos kai o tropos me ton opoio qa epiteyxqei, an epiteyxqei, ayto to kaqestws ypochfias pros entajh sthn E. E. xwras, gia thn Toyrkia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla h Toyrkia apanthse me parabiaseis toy enaerioy xwroy ths Kyproy. To jerete ayto; Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gi ayto;

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme oti egine ayto, sto plaisio twn askhsewn "Tayros" poy diejhxqhsan prosfata. H kybernhsh ths Kyproy, dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy, exei kanei oles tis deoyses energeies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai mia kalh kinhsh ayth, kalwn sxesewn, gia na entaxqei h Toyrkia sthn E. E.;

REPPAS: Aytes oi kinhseis den qa elega oti einai qetikes. Kaqe allo. Apo thn allh, omws, qa prepei na eimai poly safhs kai na pw oti h qesh ths Elladas, oson afora to qema poy qa syzhthqei sto Elsinki, qa sympyknwqei se ena "nai" h ena "oxi", ekeinh th stigmh, afoy ektimhsoyme oles tis parametroys. Emeis exoyme kanei gnwstes tis qeseis mas stoys etairoys mas. Tis gnwrizoyn, opws gnwrizoyme ki emeis ti einai ayto poy prepei na kanoyme gia na yperaspistoyme ta symferonta ths xwras. H Toyrkia qa prepei kai ekeinh na antilhfqei oti, opws oi alloi ergazontai gia ton eyrwpaiko prosanatolismo ths, prwtistws, prepei na ergastei h idia.

BITALHS: Eipate, prohgoymenws, oti qesh ths kybernhshs einai oti h paroysa Boylh den prepei na dialyqei, mporei na eklejei Proedro ths Dhmokratias kai oti oi ekloges kanonika na ginoyn to Septembrio toy 2000. Qelw na rwthsw, an ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs kai h N. D. emmeinoyn stis qeseis toys sto qema ths ekloghs Proedroy, tote h kybernhsh ejetazei to endexomeno na exoyme nwritera apo to Martio, ayth thn eklogikh anametrhsh mesa apo thn epispeysh twn diadikasiwn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn qemata opws h ONE k. t. l.;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizoyme tetoio qema.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Symfwna me ta osa apanthsate se prohgoymenh erwthsh, an ginotan ayrio h Synodos Koryfhs, poia qa htan h qesh ths Elladas gia thn anabaqmish ths Toyrkias ws ypochfias pros entajh xwras;

REPPAS: An mporoysate na moy ekfrasete h na moy diatypwsete th qesh twn allwn etairwn, qa mporoysa ki egw na sas apanthsw. Alla, oyte eseis mporeite na to kanete ayto, ara, oyte kai egw mporw na sas dwsw mia apanthsh, twra. Poly perissotero, poy an to ekana ayto, qa isodynamoyse me enan ekoysio afoplismo, enocei mias poly shmantikhs kai kaqoristikhs gia th xwra mas syzhthshs.

MIXAHL: Metadoqhkan, to Sabbato, plhrofories apo radiofwnikoys kai thleoptikoys staqmoys, oti me parembash eisaggelea den epetraph sta synergeia na paroyn eikona apo tis diamartyries twn katoikwn toy Braxasioy. Den diaceysqhke ayto. Qa hqela ena sxolio sas ws ypoyrgos Typoy, alla kai ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos.

REPPAS: Den hmoyn sthn Krhth, den symmeteixa se ayth thn periodeia, alla eida se oloys toys thleoptikoys staqmoys eikones apo ayth th diamartyria kai th syzhthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ekproswpoys twn diamartyromenwn. Einai adianohto na qewrei kapoios oti h kybernhsh mporei na epiballei periorismoys. Einai pera apo opoiadhpote skech ayto. Apo thn allh, prepei na pw oti eida se thleoptikoys staqmoys pws to qema ayto eixe to probadisma se sxesh me ayth thn idia thn periodeia kai ta osa shmantika, sto plaisio ayths ths periodeias, eipwqhkan h eginan. Eidate, loipon, oti oi thleoptikoi staqmoi monoi toys mporoyn na ierarxoyn ta gegonota me bash ta dhmosiografika krithria ta opoia xrhsimopoioyntai se aytes tis periptwseis. Einai anafaireto dikaiwma toys kai apolytws sebasto apo emas. Apo thn allh, omws, den qa prepei na kathgoreitai h kybernhsh, enw oi idioi oi thleoptikoi staqmoi, kati poy egine sto periqwrio ths periodeias, to paroysiazoyn san to kentriko qema ths periodeias, toylaxiston gia kapoies wres.

MIXAHL: Den isxyristhka kati tetoio. Sas eipa oti metadoqhkan aytes oi plhrofories kai zhthsa ena sxolio apo sas.

REPPAS: Apanthsa oti einai adianohto, einai pera apo opoiadhpote skech.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa xrhsimopoiei ta MAT kai sthn proeklogikh periodo stis periodeies toy;

REPPAS: Oxi mono den einai stis epiloges kai tis diaqeseis mas na xrhsimopoihsoyme tetoies meqodoys, prokeimenoy na anaptyjoyme ta epixeirhmata mas h ton politiko agwna mas, alla antiqetws, qa elega oti tetoioy eidoys fainomena, otan ekdhlwnontai, ta antimetwpizoyme me apofasistiko kai apotelesmatiko tropo. Giati epiqymoyme oi Ellhnes na exoyn th dynatothta na ekfrazoyn eleyqera to fronhma toys, opoio ki an einai, xwris na xreiazetai na perasoyn apo kapoio kommatiko plynthrio gia na apodeijoyn oti einai... "kaqaroi"! Oloi oi Ellhnes, apenanti sto Syntagma kai toys nomoys, exoyn isa dikaiwmata kai ypoxrewseis. To dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn eleyqera thn apoch toys einai anafaireto, opws kai h ypoxrewsh na sebontai ta dikaiwmata twn sympolitwn toys. Einai ki ayto kati poy den prepei na mas diafeygei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto egine sthn Krhth me ta MAT;

REPPAS: Apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den afhsan tis kameres na trabhjoyn ta epeisodia;

REPPAS: Kanete terastio laqos. Den hsastan, oyte eseis sthn Krhth, oyte egw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Otan epesan ta dakrygona kai xtypoysan toys papades, den afhsan tis kameres na trabhjoyn.

REPPAS: Oyte egw, oyte eseis hmastan sthn Krhth. Afhste toys polites na milhsoyn. Gnwrizw oti oi ekproswpoi twn diamartyromenwn milhsan me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai toy eipan kati poy akoysthke se ola ta deltia eidhsewn: Oti to xwrio ayto dinei ena probadisma sto PASOK, me pososto 70%.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Enas phge.

REPPAS: Aytoi poy milhsan -kai den htan enas- ejefrazan kai toys alloys. Allwste, an anatrejete, giati egw to ekana, sta apotelesmata twn eklogwn, qa deite oti to pososto to opoio anaferqhke, einai alhqes kai qa epanalhfqei.

Sas eyxaristw.

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