Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-10-08

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Oktwbrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete synexizetai h syzhthsh sth Boylh se epipedo politikwn arxhgwn. H omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai sth diaqesh sas.

* Prin dexqw tis erwthseis sas, qa moy epitrecete na kanw to ejhs sxolio:

O k. Karamanlhs, milwntas xqes se ekdhlwsh toy kommatos toy, eipe metajy allwn oti ''h Ellada qa entaxqei sthn ONE, einai enas stoxos ton opoio sthrijame kai sthrizoyme me oles mas tis dynameis, ws Nea Dhmokratia''. Eyxaristoyme gi` ayth th sthrijh!

H alhqeia einai oti h N. D. otan kybernhse apetyxe na efarmosei dyo programmata sygklishs. Sxediase dyo programmata ta opoia apetyxan oiktra. Odhghsan thn Ellada se apoklish kai oxi se sygklish me tis alles xwres ths E. E.

To epiteygma na briskomaste shmera se apostash anapnohs apo to megalo stoxo ths entajhs ths xwras mas sthn ONE einai apotelesma twn prospaqeiwn kai twn qysiwn toy ellhnikoy laoy. Einai h orqh politikh poy akoloyqhse h kybernhsh kai odhghse se ayto to qetiko apotelesma.

Lypoymaste, giati h N. D. oxi mono den sthrije, alla syxna yponomeyse me dhlwseis kai thn praktikh hgetikwn stelexwn ths thn prospaqeia ths kybernhshs kai toy ellhnikoy laoy pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Einai gnwstes oi dhlwseis toy k. Karamanlh kai allwn epifanwn paragontwn ths N. D., oi opoioi, ligo kairo prin, qewroysan oti o stoxos aytos einai anefiktos gia thn Ellada. Mas kathgoroysan oti me thn politikh poy akoloyqoyme den prokeitai na epityxoyme thn entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE. Ayto, twra, to qewroyn dedomeno. Para tayta kai pali memcimoiroyn, qewrwntas oti h sygklish den einai pragmatikh.

H E. E. exei organa, ta opoia elegxoyn thn poreia ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. Oi koinotikoi paragontes kai foreis exoyn apofanqei, se ola ta epipeda, oti h politikh poy akoloyqoyme odhgei me bebaiothta th xwra mas sthn ONE, me pragmatikoys kai oysiastikoys oroys. H N. D. diaforopoieitai. Ayto deixnei pws thn wra poy ''poiei thn anagkh filotimo'' kai anagnwrizei oti entassomaste sthn ONE, thn idia wra memcimoirei me tetoio tropo, mono kai mono gia na skiasei ayto to epiteygma ths politikhs mas.

Kati analogo, epixeirhse na kanei h N. D., oson afora to sxetiko chfisma toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy. Prepei na pw oti synhqizetai ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs na kathgoroyn thn kybernhsh, mono kai mono gia mikrokommatikoys kai antipoliteytikoys logoys, ek kaqhkontos na askoyn kritikh sthn kybernhsh. Prepei, omws, orismenoys tomeis- kai idiws aytoys poy aforoyn meizona eqnika qemata- na toys afhsoyme ejw apo ayth th mikrokommatikh optikh, wste na mh ginomaste epizhmioi, otan den mporoyme na eimaste xrhsimoi gia ton topo kai to lao.

To chfisma toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy, epanalambanw, sxedon sto synolo twn MME twn allwn xwrwn, kai ths Toyrkias mh ejairoymenhs, antimetwpizetai ws chfisma to opoio kaqe allo para ''anabei prasino fws'' sthn Toyrkia, opws kapoioi isxyrizontai, kata prwtotypo tropo, sthn Ellada.

Isa-isa to chfisma ayto den kanei tipota allo, para na epibebaiwnei ayto to opoio apotelei pagia politikh mas: Oti qa prepei orismenes proypoqeseis, orismenes ypoxrewseis, poy isxyoyn gia oles tis xwres poy epiqymoyn na entaxqoyn sthn E. E., na ekplhrwqoyn kai apo thn Toyrkia, prokeimenoy na petyxei ayto to stoxo. To chfisma ayto epanabebaiwnei to dikaiwma ths Toyrkias -poy ths exei anagnwristei, allwste, ws xwras epilejimhs- na zhtei thn entajh ths sthn E. E.

To chfisma diasfalizei ta eqnika mas symferonta, afoy epanalambanei, sxedon aytoysies qeseis, poy apoteloyn pagia stoixeia ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs mas gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma.

Katopin toytoy, kaloyme oloys kai idiaiterws thn Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh na epideijei thn aparaithth synesh kai an den mporei na askhsei epoikodomhtikh kritikh, toylaxiston as siwpa. Einai kai ayto mia syneisfora se mia eqnikh ypoqesh.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia to chfisma ayto kai h k. Maliwrh kai o k. Soyladakhs, exoyn kanei dhlwseis kai lene oti einai filotoyrkiko. Ti exete na apanthsete se ayto; H k. Maliwrh edwse synenteyjh gia ayto to qema kai leei oti einai filotoyrkiko.

REPPAS: Oydeis, ek twn stelexwn toy PASOK, ekane tetoia dhlwsh. Kanate to idio laqos proxqes, apodidontas ston ypoyrgo k. Laliwth dhlwseis kai qeseis tis opoies oydepote ejefrase. Mh metaferete edw qeseis, oi opoies apodidontai se stelexh poy den einai qeseis twn sygkekrimenwn stelexwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei dwsei synenteyjh sthn efhmerida "BRADYNH".

REPPAS: Einai san th synenteyjh poy eixe dwsei o k. Laliwths, oson afora th dhqen kaqysterhsh gia ta erga ths Olympiadas kai thn opoia epikalesthkate liges hmeres prin; Sas parakalw. Oydeis exei kanei tetoies dhlwseis, oydeis exei ekfrasei tetoies qeseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eixe pei o k. Laliwths tote, oti exoyme kaqysterhsei dyo xronia;

REPPAS: Giati den rwtate ton k. Laliwth; Egw sas apanthsa tote. Oxi, k. Stamatopoyle, mhn epimenete. Yparxei mia deontologia, oson afora thn askhsh toy dhmosiografikoy epaggelmatos. Eiste oi monoi poy to isxyrizeste ayto apo ola ta Mesa Enhmerwshs.

KWSTANTHS: O k. Xaralampidhs anakoinwse thn idrysh kommatos ths Dhmokratikhs Perifereiakhs Enwshs. Epishs, se synenteyjh toy kathgorei to PASOK, oti einai mh komma, mia nomenklatoyra anamesa sto kratos, sta lobby kai ta MME. Pws sxoliazete tis dhlwseis aytes;

REPPAS: Einai dikaiwma olwn twn politwn poy exoyn sxetikes anhsyxies kai endiaferonta, na idryoyn politikes kinhseis kai kommata. To dikaiwma ayto einai anafaireto. H idrysh politikhs kinhshs apo ton k. Xaralampidh den afora to PASOK. Me ayth thn ennoia den exoyme kanenan logo na proboyme se opoiodhpote sxolio. Plhroforhqhkame, shmera, thn idrysh ayths ths kinhshs apo tis efhmerides. Akoysa de apo Meso Enhmerwshs na ginetai to ejhs sxolio: Oti o k. Xaralampidhs isxyrizetai oti, h kybernhsh panikoblhth sxedon apo thn anaggelia ths idryshs ayths ths politikhs kinhshs, skeftetai na epispeysei tis ekloges! Antilambaneste pws ola ayta den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn ypeyqynh politikh analysh twn qematwn, ths pragmatikothtas. Apo kei kai pera, epanalambanw, h idrysh politikhs kinhshs -kai malista ths sygkekrimenhs- den afora to PASOK.

KWSTANTHS: Sxetika me tis kataggelies gia nomenklatoyra, gia to mh komma, ti exete na peite;

REPPAS: Egw den qa probw se kataggelies opoiasdhpote morfhs kai enantion opoioydhpote, an den exw sygkekrimena stoixeia, ta opoia qa paroysiasw ston ellhniko lao kai me bash ayta na stoixeioqethsw tis apoceis moy.

KWSTANTHS: Grafthke, xqes, sthn efhmerida "PONTIKI", oti ena apo ta endexomena poy ejetazei h kybernhsh, einai na ginoyn allages ston eklogiko nomo, sxetika me ta mikra kommata, wste an pianoyn pososto 1% ews 3%, dhladh, to 2,99%, oi arxhgoi toys na mpainoyn sth Boylh.

REPPAS: Den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia tetoia dhmosieymata. Oydeis sthn kybernhsh asxoleitai me qemata eklogikoy nomoy.

MIXAHL: O k. Soyrlas phre mia prwtoboylia, na kataqesei mia tropologia, me thn opoia qa apagoreyetai se ypoyrgoys kai kratikoys leitoyrgoys na paizoyn sto Xrhmatisthrio. H kybernhsh protiqetai na sthrijei ayth thn tropologia;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei labei qesh gia to qema ayto. Exei chfistei sxetikos nomos, o 2533 toy 1997. Me bash ayto to nomo, sto arqro 1 paragrafos 6, orizetai poioi einai oi entoleis sto plaisio tetoiwn ependytikwn ypoqesewn. Anaferetai sygkekrimena se deka periptwseis, se proswpa kai foreis poy den exoyn to dikaiwma na apokthsoyn thn idiothta toy entolea. Epishs, sto arqro 81 toy nomoy 2533 toy 1997, anaferontai oloi ekeinoi oi periorismoi, poy aforoyn proswpa kai foreis, sxetika me thn anaptyjh tetoiwn drasthriothtwn, sto plaisio leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy Ajiwn Aqhnwn. Exei ekdoqei, kat` entolh aytoy toy nomoy, sxetikh Ypoyrgikh Apofash, apo to Martio toy 1998, poy problepei periorismoys h apokleismoys apo tetoio dikaiwma, gia foreis, poy amesws h emmesws emplekontai sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Metajy allwn, anaferetai kai se dhmosiografoys, an den to gnwrizete ayto. Prepei na pw oti to qesmiko plaisio ths xwras mas einai analogo me ayto poy isxyei se alles anaptygmenes, sygxrones xwres ths Eyrwphs. Yparxei, loipon, qesmiko plaisio. Isws kapoioi den to gnwrizoyn. Isws ayto pairnoyn ypoch toys oi boyleytes ths N. D., otan gia logoys entypwsioqhrias, analambanoyn th sxetikh prwtoboylia. Qa prepei na ginontai sebasta ta dikaiwmata olwn twn politwn poy drasthriopoioyntai kai sto plaisio epixeirhmatikwn prwtoboyliwn, symfwna me to Syntagma kai toys nomoys. Apo kei kai pera, den nomizw oti h hqikh stash twn politwn -mhde ejairoymenwn kai twn politikwn, twn dhmosiografwn kai twn allwn forewn, poy exoyn ena leitoyrghma to opoio anaptyssetai sth dhmosia sfaira- mporei na ypaxqei se mia skopimh diastreblwsh, se mia skopimh parermhneia toy ti akribws shmainei ayth h hqikh stash. Oloi oi polites exoyn to dikaiwma na mas krinoyn. Ara, loipon, pisteyoyme oti gia logoys dhmioyrgias entypwsewn analhfqhke ayth h prwtoboylia. Bebaiws, h apanthsh qa doqei sth Boylh apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, otan erqei h katallhlh stigmh. Ayto to opoio epanalambanw, einai oti yparxei qesmiko plaisio, to opoio exei sygkekrimenes probleceis gia ta synafh qemata. An h N. D. qelei sygkekrimena oi Ellhnes boyleytes na sterhqoyn aytoy toy dikaiwmatos, me allo tropo, o opoios qa ypodeixqei apo ayth, as qesei mia tetoia protash me eyqythta kai me tropo, o opoios qa diasfalizei oti qa epityxoyn to apotelesma poy lene oti epidiwkoyn. Giati, alliws, mporw eykola na toys kathgorhsw oti einai ypokrites. Oti to kanoyn mono kai mono gia th dhmioyrgia efhmerwn entypwsewn. Pisteyw de oti kapoioi qa agnooyn, profanws, oti yparxei ayto to qesmiko plaisio kai ayto epixeiroyn na ekmetalleytoyn isws kapoioi apo toys synadelfoys.

MIXAHL: H kybernhsh ektos apo to na nomoqetei, exei kai thn eyqynh -kaqe kybernhsh- kai ths thrhshs toy nomoy. Aisqaneste na mhn exete efarmosei plhrws ayto to nomiko plaisio poy mas perigracate twra; To rwtaw ayto dioti den htan twra mono oi prwtoboylies toy k. Soyrla. Exete diabasei kai seis ton teleytaio kairo para polla sxolia gia kybernhtikoys paragontes, kybernhtikoys ajiwmatoyxoys, oi opoioi kinoyn kapoies diadikasies toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Mhpws, loipon, kai eseis kapoy den exete efarmosei olo ayto to nomiko plaisio to opoio yparxei kai to qespisate eseis;

REPPAS: To nomiko plaisio efarmozetai, sas parapempw s` ayto kai pali. Apo kei kai pera mhn jexnate oti kai ayta ta dhmosieymata sta opoia anafereste, ypografontai apo esas, apo synadelfoys sas oi opoioi kai aytoi mporw egw, an ginw kakopistos, na skeftw oti epidiwkoyn etsi na ejyphrethsoyn, me th dhmioyrgia klimatos se mia orismenh kateyqynsh, kapoia symferonta. Ayta ola omws, otan legontai me ayto ton epipolaio tropo, antilambaneste oti dhmioyrgoyn mia entypwsh h opoia einai epizhmia gia th dhmosia zwh ths xwras, genikotera gia th xwra kai oxi mono gia thn politikh. Apanthsa se ola ayta ta qemata. O nomos efarmozetai, problepei dikaiwmata kai periorismoys. Otan to melethsete, nomizw oti qa exete mia diaforetikh gnwmh.

FILHS: Isxyei h parathrhsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti einai "anohsies" ta osa legontai kai grafontai peri eklogwn to Fqinopwro;

REPPAS: Den qa epanalabw ayth th lejh. Mporw na sas pw omws oti einai mia lejh h opoia brisketai se apolyth armonia me th qesh ths kybernhshs apenanti sta osa senaria blepoyn to fws ths dhmosiothtas, peri prwtoboyliwn ths kybernhshs gia epispeysh twn eklogikwn diadikasiwn.

FILHS: O Makariotatos Arxiepiskopos Aqhnwn dhlwse gia prwth fora oti einai anapofeyktos o diaxwrismos Ekklhsias-Kratoys. Poies prwtoboylies protiqetai na parei h kybernhsh gia na ajiopoihsei ayth th dhmosia dhlwsh enos diakekrimenoy paragonta poy ton afora, en tini metrw, to qema ayto, sto plaisio ths syntagmatikhs anaqewrhshs h -to eykolotero- sto plaisio toy nomoqetikoy ergoy ths kybernhshs prokeimenoy na katarghqoyn ta teleytaia anaxronistika ypoleimmata toy nomoy peri proshlytismoy kai allwn paremferwn nomwn;

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola h dhlwsh toy Makariotatoy den shmainei oti ypoballei sxetiko aithma. Dinei mia diastash nomoteleiakhs ejelijhs se ayth thn ypoqesh, legontas pws anapofeykta, pleon, ta pragmata odhgoyntai ekei, opws eipate kai eseis. Oxi oti ayth h ejelijh einai h dikh toy epiqymia. Gnwrizete oti gia to qema ayto exei anaptyxqei ploysios dialogos. Sto plaisio syzhthshs gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos exoyn diatypwqei diafores apoceis. Gnwrizete epishs poia htan h antidrash ths kybernhshs. H qesh ths kybernhshs loipon, paramenei ws exei. Den allazei tipota ws pros ayto.

FILHS: Akoysame ton Proedro toy Ellhnikoy Eryqroy Stayroy kai stelexh aytoy toy Idrymatos na dhlwnoyn oti aposyrontai apo thn eyqynh ths trofodosias, ths promhqeias twn trofimwn gia seismopaqeis epeidh diapistwnoyn ektetamena kroysmata aisxrokerdias kai ypoptwn trofimwn. Akoysame epishs, plhroforhqhkame, oti h kybernhsh prospaqei na taisei toys seismopaqeis, me santoyits kai allh jhra trofh. Qa qelame na mas peite poies prwtoboylies exei analabei h kybernhsh gia to qema ths promhqeias twn trofwn stoys seismopaqeis, twra poy bgainei o Eryqros Stayros apo th mesh kai pws sxoliazete ayth thn ejelijh, apo politikhs apocews;

REPPAS: Qa prepei prwta ap ola na sygxaroyme ton Eryqro Stayro gia th bohqeia poy exei prosferei mexri twra, gia th symmetoxh toy sthn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn. Se orismenes periptwseis htan kaqoristikh h qetikh symbolh toy. O Eryqros Stayros, opws anakoinwse den aposyretai genikws apo thn olh epixeirhsh trofodosias twn seismoplhktwn. Aplws den qelei na exei thn eyqynh ths epiloghs twn etaireiwn poy promhqeyoyn me trofima toys seismoplhktoys. Alla bebaiws sth diakinhsh kai th frontida gia thn trofodosia twn seismoplhktwn, synexizei na symmetexei. Me thn eykairia ayth enwnoyme kai emeis th fwnh mas me ta qymata toy katastrofikoy seismoy, me oloys toys polites poy aganaktoyn kai apodokimazoyn, ekeinoys toys epixeirhmaties, poy se mia dyskolh stigmh, se mia stigmh ponoy kai dystyxias synanqrwpwn mas, qewrhsan oti mporoyn na broyn thn eykairia na aisxrokerdisoyn. Ta fainomena ayta exoyn apasxolhsei tis dikastikes arxes, alla kai tis dioikhtikes yphresies. Qa apodoqoyn oi eyqynes. Me thn eykairia ayth mporw na pw pws kai di aytoy toy tropoy apodeiknyetai poso dyskolo einai to egxeirhma na antimetwpisei h Politeia to synolo twn problhmatwn poy prokyptoyn meta apo ena tetoio fainomeno, opws htan o prosfatos katastrofikos seismos. Antilambaneste posa problhmata yparxoyn, me terastio megeqos to kaqena. H Politeia, oi armodies Yphresies, h Politikh Prostasia exei labei merimna wste na synexistei kanonika h trofodosia twn sympolitwn mas poy exoyn plhgei. Prepei na pw oti h trofodosia twn seismoplhktwn me ayto ton tropo, einai mia ektakth diadikasia, den synista mia monimh katastash. Pisteyoyme oti grhgora, otan doqei h dynatothta stoys perissoteroys apo aytoys, ajiopoiwntas ta metra poy exei anakoinwsei h kybernhsh, mesw toy epidomatos sygkatoikhshs kai ths epidothshs enoikioy, na broyn stegh, den qa xreiazetai pia kapoios allos na frontizei gia thn kaqhmerinh trofh toys. Opws, epishs, an egkatastaqoyn se kapoion apo toys lyomenoys oikiskoys poy twra topoqetoyntai, qa exei th dynatothta na frontisei o kaqenas gia thn kaqhmerinh trofh toy, opws qa ekane kai se kaqe allh periptwsh, zwntas katw apo kanonikes synqhkes, sto spiti toy. Ara loipon ayth h periodos einai mia parenqesh, oson afora th di` aytoy toy tropoy trofodosia twn seismoplhktwn. Pisteyoyme na kleisei h parenqesh ayth oso ginetai pio grhgora, pragma poy shmainei aytomatws oti oi sympolites mas aytoi qa exoyn brei mia hmimonimh h monimh stegh. Kai bebaiws olh ayth thn periodo, qa xreiastei na synexisoyme na frontizoyme gia thn trofodosia toys. Qa to kanoyme me ton kalytero dynato tropo, pairnontas ypoch panta oti yparxoyn ayta ta problhmata ta opoia dhmioyrgoyntai, dystyxws, apo synanqrwpoys mas, oi opoioi pisteyoyn oti mporei na apokomisoyn terastia kerdh, paragnwrizontas pws se mia tetoia stigmh qa prepei isa-isa na epideijoyn, sto megisto dynato baqmo, to aisqhma koinwnikhs eyqynhs poy prepei na toys diakrinei.

FILHS: Epeidh, kalws exontwn twn pragmatwn k. Ypoyrge, h parenqesh sthn opoia anaferqhkate qa krathsei kanena mhna -epanalambanw kalws exontwn twn pragmatwn- gia para polloys apo toys seismoplhktoys, h trofodosia loipon, poy grafetai shmera apo ton Typo kai kataggelletai kai apo foreis, qa ginetai gia ena mhna me konserbes kai santoyits;

REPPAS: Qa ginei oti kalytero, oti einai pio swsto, prokeimenoy oi anqrwpoi aytoi na mh sterhqoyn thn trofh toys. Kai idiws gia ta nea paidia poy spoydazoyn, toys maqhtes, qa ginei oti to kalytero. Kai se ayth thn prospaqeia poy kanoyn oi yphresies toy kratoys qa prepei na symbaloyn kai ekeinoi oi opoioi exoyn logo. Qa ginei oti to kalytero. Asfalws den qa einai h trofh toys mono santoyits h konserbes. Alla se kapoies ektaktes stigmes poy qa prepei na drasoyme astrapiaia, kai ayta ta eidh trofhs prepei na sas pw oti einai xrhsima, einai aparaithta. Mh mhdenizoyme ta panta.

Sas eyxaristw. Kalo Sabbatokyriako

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