Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-04-06

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Aprilioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MPOYATAR: Yparxei epibebaiwsh toy epeisodioy sta ellhnoskopiana synora me tesseris Albanoys apo to Kossyfopedio, me ton ena na exei skotwqei kai toys alloys treis traymaties, epeidh den stamathsan gia elegxo;

REPPAS: Pragmati, egine ena epeisodio, to opoio dystyxws eixe ws katalhjh na xasei th zwh ths mia gynaika. Htan mia omada laqrometanastwn poy prospaqoysan na perasoyn sthn Ellada. Stis diatages twn froyrwn, prokeimenoy na ypostoyn ton analogo elegxo, den stamathsan, den ypakoysan.

MPOYATAR: Me ta podia, htan;

REPPAS: Nai. Kai eixame, telikws, ayth thn tragikh katalhjh. Epishs, egine ena epeisodio sta synora twn Skopiwn me thn Albania, allhs morfhs. Alla, en pash periptwsei, ayto to epeisodio, gia to opoio me rwthsate, den exei kamia sxesh me to kyma twn prosfygwn.

MPOYATAR: Poia eqnikothta, apo poy erxotane;

REPPAS: Apo thn Albania. To eipame. Apo thn perioxh toy Pogradets eixan jekinhsei. Htan laqrometanastes ej Albanias, opws lene oi plhrofories.

FILHS: H entolh poy yparxei sta ellhnika meqoriaka tmhmata einai na pyroboloyn enantion atomwn ta opoia qa hqelan na eiselqoyn sthn ellhnikh epikrateia;

REPPAS: H entolh poy exoyn einai na fylassoyn ta synora kai na xrhsimopoioyn diafora mesa, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn laqrometanastes poy den ypakoyoyn stis entoles twn froyrwn gia elegxo, syxna feroyn oplismo kai probainoyn se biaies energeies gia na ejasfalisoyn th diodo toys sthn Ellada.

FILHS: Yphrje anagnwrish ek meroys twn ellhnikwn meqoriakwn tmhmatwn oti oi Albanoi oi opoioi eishlqan sto ellhniko edafos, htan oplismenoi; Pws pyroboloyntai;

REPPAS: Prokeitai gia omada laqrometanastwn poy piqanws eferan kai opla kai prospaqoysan me tropo o opoios dhmioyrghse problhmata, na perasoyn ta ellhnika synora. Den ypakoysan stis entoles twn froyrwn. Den stamathsan na dexqoyn kapoion elegxo. Kai h tragikh ayth katalhjh hrqe meta apo ejostrakismo mias sfairas. Den pyrobolhqhke eyqews h atyxh gynaika.

FILHS: Nai, oloi etsi skotwnontai!

REPPAS: Egw den to gnwrizw ayto, k. Filh. Eseis, afoy to lete, prepei na to gnwrizete. Pantws, milame gia stratiwtika tmhmata kai oxi gia dynameis ths Astynomias.

MPOYATAR: To idio kanei.

REPPAS: Den kanei kaqoloy to idio. Gnwrizete poly kala oti yparxoyn kanones. Se ola ta paixnidia yparxoyn kanones. Poly perissotero otan miloyme gia th fylajh twn synorwn, qa prepei oi kanones na ginontai sebastoi. Bebaiws, panw ap` ola einai h anqrwpinh zwh -den to syzhtoyme ayto- alla thn eyqynh gia thn apwleia ths, parakalw, mhn thn apodidete monomerws se mia pleyra. Den gnwrizoyme akribws poia einai ta gegonota kai oi synqhkes katw apo tis opoies ejelixqhkan. Gi` ayto mhn protrexete. Sas lew oti den ypakoysan kai sto plaisio kapoioy epeisodioy eixame ayth thn tragikh katalhjh. Den gnwrizw alles plhrofories. Ola ayta ereynwntai.

FILHS: Gnwrizete ta stoixeia toy qymatos poia htan;

REPPAS: Ola ayta ereynwntai.

FILHS: Tote, pws jeroyme oti einai Albanh kai oxi...

REPPAS: Oti einai Albanh h gynaika, einai gnwsto. To onoma ths, thn katagwgh ths, tis epidiwjeis ths, to stoxo poy eixe me thn prospaqeia ths na eiselqei sthn Ellada den ta gnwrizw.

FILHS: Pws gnwrizoyme oti den einai prosfyges apo to Kossyfopedio, oi opoioi perasan sthn Albania kai ek twn opoiwn kapoioi perasan pros thn Ellada;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala, oti ta synora fylassontai kai den epitrepetai se kanenan na qewrei oti mporei na ta perasei xwris elegxo.

Oson afora to kyma twn prosfygwn, einai gnwsto oti h metakinhsh toys ginetai kata megales omades kai me enan tropo o opoios einai sxetika organwmenos. Apo thn allh, oi plhrofories poy exoyme einai oti h sygkekrimenh omada htan omada laqrometanastwn. Malista, o tropos me ton opoio prospaqhsan na perasoyn ta synora -kapoies martyries lene oti eferan kai oplismo- deixnei pws alloi htan oi stoxoi kai oi epidiwjeis toys.

MPOYATAR: Posoi htan kai an yphrxan mikra paidia.

REPPAS: Den yphrxan mikra paidia ej oswn gnwrizw. Alla to gegonos ayto egine shmera to prwi. Ereynwntai oi synqhkes. Argotera qa yparxoyn perissoteres plhrofories. Omws, to epeisodio ayto -symfwna me tis prwtes ektimhseis- den exei sxesh me to kyma twn prosfygwn. Afora omada laqrometanastwn. Kai omades laqrometanastwn, opws kai sto parelqon, etsi kai thn teleytaia periodo, synexizoyn na kinoyntai kai na prospaqoyn na eiselqoyn sthn Ellada.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, xqes to brady, esteile ena mhnyma ston ellhniko lao. Th nyxta, omws, eixame bombardismoys me polla aqwa qymata, dhladh genoktonia oysiastika sth Gioygkoslabia. Epimenei o Prwqypoyrgos s` ayta poy eipe, xqes, meta th nyxterinh ayth epidromh;

REPPAS: Asfalws epimenei. Den ta eipe, gia prwth fora, o Prwqypoyrgos. H kybernhsh exei milhsei epi twn qematwn aytwn kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres. Exoyme milhsei meta th synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, ths prohgoymenhs Paraskeyhs, gia ta sxedia eqnikhs ekkaqarishs poy prowqei h hgesia ths Serbias. Kai exoyme ekfrasei thn antiqesh mas s` ayto. Apo ekei kai pera -opws kat` epanalhch eipame kai epanelabe kai xqes o Prwqypoyrgos- monimh epidiwjh mas einai na breqei mia politikh lysh gia to problhma ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Emas, dhladh, mono gia thn ekkaqarish ths Serbias mas peirazei; Den mas peirazei gia thn ekkaqarish twn Gioygkoslabwn poy egine xqes th nyxta;

REPPAS: Den ejefrase th lyph toy o Prwqypoyrgos gia ta qymata se opoia pleyra ki an briskontai; Den milhse gia thn anqrwpinh dystyxia; Den milhse gia to qanato anqrwpwn poy plhrwnoyn tis synepeies aytoy toy polemoy; Den ekane kamia diakrish o Prwqypoyrgos. Ton adikeite. Kai periorizete poly ton orizonta toy mhnymatos toy otan milate m` ayton ton tropo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla exoyme ypogracei, omws -gia na symbei kati tetoio- ayth th symmetoxh.

REPPAS: An qelete na qesoyme eyqys ej arxhs to qema ths symmetoxhs ths Elladas sto NATO, na to qesoyme. Alla, bebaiws, einai allo qema ayto. An eseis eiste metajy ekeinwn poy zhtate na apoxwrhsei h Ellada apo to NATO, na to peite eyqews. Giati prepei o ellhnikos laos na gnwrizei -kai eseis eiste armodioi kai ypeyqynoi na enhmerwsete ton ellhniko lao- oti h symmetoxh se dieqneis symmaxies, otan ginetai katopin dikhs mas epiloghs, synepagetai orismenes desmeyseis kai ypoxrewseis, stis opoies kata symbatiko kai oriako, sthn prokeimenh periptwsh, tropo antapokrinomaste. Gnwrizete poly kala poia einai h qesh poy exoyme labei, diatypwnontas tis epifylajeis mas gia tis stratiwtikes prwtoboylies poy anelabe to NATO. Apo thn allh, synexizoyme na symballoyme se kaqe prospaqeia gia thn ejeyresh politikhs lyshs sto problhma. Kai epishmainoyme, bebaiws, eyqarsws kai me eyqynh, ta problhmata ta opoia dhmioyrgoyntai ejaitias ayths ths krishs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos afhse, xqes, na ennohqei oti symmetexoyme, giati kairofylaxtei h Toyrkia na kalycei to keno. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, kat` epanalhch, exei tonisei oti h Ellada prepei na einai paroysa kai na parembainei, na pairnei prwtoboylies. Giati s` ayth thn perioxh h Ellada mporei na diadramatisei prwtagwnistiko rolo. Ayth einai h politikh mas, prokeimenoy na exoyme isxyrh fwnh, isxyrh paroysia gia na dhmioyrghsoyme thn isxyrh Ellada. Etsi diasfalizoyme ta eqnika symferonta. Prwta kai kyria, gnwmonas ths politikhs mas einai na perifroyrhsoyme ta eqnika symferonta. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos anoije to fako kai eidame olo to fasma twn problhmatwn. Milhse gia tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis. Mporeite na antilhfqeite oti oi ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis apoteloyn, qa moy epitrecete na pw, to prwto qema, oson afora thn "atzenta" twn qematwn ejwterikhs politikhs ths xwras mas. Kai ayto den qa prepei na feygei apo thn optikh mas, otan syzhtoyme qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn ejwterikh politikh, me kriseis poy ekdhlwnontai sthn perioxh mas. O Prwqypoyrgos ekane poly kala kai bohqhse para polloys na katanohsoyn to qema sthn olothta toy: Na mh blepoyn, merikws kai apospasmatika, qemata ta opoia einai poly krisima gia thn eqnikh mas poreia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prokeitai -meta kai tis xqesines antidraseis twn kommatwn, meta to mhnyma- na parei kapoies prwtoboylies;

REPPAS: Oi antidraseis olwn twn kommatwn den htan arnhtikes. Gnwrizw oti ek meroys ths N. D. oi sxoliasmoi stelexwn ths htan, qa elega, peripoy sthn idia grammh me thn politikh qesh poy aneptyje o Prwqypoyrgos. Apo ekei kai pera, oi prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs exoyn analhfqei kai synexizontai, oson afora thn paroxh anqrwpistikhs bohqeias. Ekei o rolos mas einai shmantikos. Lew oti sthn Albania fer` eipein, ta enopla tmhmata poy filojenoyntai exoyn dhmioyrghsei, hdh, dyo kataylismoys. Enan sta Tirana kai enan sto Koykets, konta sta synora Albanias-Kossyfopedioy. Prokeitai na dhmioyrghqei kai enas akomh sto Koykets. Exoyme prowqhsei lyomena spitia kai polles skhnes. Exoyn filojenhqei panw apo 1000 prosfyges s` aytoys toys kataylismoys. Ayto katadeiknyei to rolo poy mporoyme na diadramatisoyme sthn perioxh, enocei ayths ths krishs.

Ayrio, ayto einai to pio piqano, o k. Papandreoy qa episkefqei ta Skopia. Meqayrio, mazi me ton ypoyrgo Anaplhrwth, qa laboyn meros sth Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths E. E.

Gnwrizete, epishs, oti ayrio ginetai h Synodos twn Ypoyrgwn Asfaleias ths E. E., opoy qa ekproswphqei h Ellada me ton ypoyrgo Dhmosias Tajhs M. Xrysoxoidh.

H epikoinwnia ths kybernhshs me jenoys ajiwmatoyxoys synexizetai, einai diarkhs. Antallassontai apoceis, plhrofories kai ektimhseis. Kai emeis, opws eipe poly orqa o Prwqypoyrgos, parembainoyme, analambanoyme prwtoboylies, panta se synennohsh me to NATO, kratwntas panta anoikth thn epafh mas me tis alles balkanikes xwres kai me th Serbia, bebaiws. Giati mono etsi mporei na einai apotelesmatikh h opoia prwtoboylia anaptyxqei apo th dikh mas pleyra. Kai en pash periptwsei, tetoioy eidoys energeies qa prepei na exoyn ejasfalisei ena ychlo pososto antapokrishs apo thn allh pleyra, prokeimenoy na tis analabeis. Den einai dynaton -epeidh akribws eisai h kybernhsh mias xwras, den eisai aplws ena politiko komma- na milas genikws kai aoristws. Oi prwtoboylies poy pairneis qa prepei na exoyn ejasfalisei mia ychlh prosdokia antapokrishs. H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei xeiristei ta qemata poly ypeyqyna kai pisteyw oti ayto anagnwrizetai.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an epibebaiwnete to periexomeno epistolhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy twn Skopiwn, pros ton k. Shmith poy oysiastika leei "yparxei kindynos apostaqeropoihshs, parakalw bohqhste".

REPPAS: Pragmati, o Prwqypoyrgos twn Skopiwn exei aposteilei epistolh se oloys toys hgetes ths E. E., opoy toys ekqetei me tono -qa elega- dramatiko, ta problhmata poy exoyn dhmioyrghqei gia to kratos toy, meta thn krish sto Kossyfopedio. O Prwqypoyrgos, eyqys ws elabe thn epistolh, epikoinwnhse thlefwnika me ton k. Gkeorgkiefski kai ton diabebaiwse, gia mia akomh fora, gia to endiaferon ths xwras mas, na bohqhsoyme to kratos twn Skopiwn na antimetwpisei ta problhmata poy exoyn prokycei, logw toy megaloy kymatos prosfygwn poy filojenoyntai ekei. Akomh toy epanelabe thn pagia qesh mas oti stoys dieqneis organismoys poy symmetexoyme, sto plaisio twn dieqnwn synanthsewn kai synergasiwn mas, panta qa qetoyme me emfash thn anagkh na parameinei to kratos twn Skopiwn sta synora poy exei shmera. Giati, pragmatika o k. Gkeorgkiefski, me megalh anhsyxia, paroysiazei ta qemata poy exoyn dhmioyrghqei, meta thn krish sto Kossyfopedio, gia thn patrida toy.

MIXAHL: Mhpws, loipon, afoy emeis qa qesoyme pantoy, se oloys toys organismoys, thn anagkh na parameinei to kratos twn Skopiwn sta shmerina synora kai na mhn exoyme allagh synorwn, yparxoyn skeceis sthn kybernhsh na mpoyme kai sthn telikh eyqeia gia to qema toy onomatos kai na exoyme kai thn typikh -an qelete- ejomalynsh twn sxesewn metajy twn dyo xwrwn;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema ayto antimetwpizetai sto plaisio toy OHE. Den exoyme kanena logo na allajoyme to pedio syzhthshs aytoy toy qematos. Apo ekei kai pera, pisteyoyme -kai nomizw oti ekfrazw mia qesh poy mas briskei oloys symfwnoys- oti ayth h krish kai h anagkh synergasias, sympleyshs, symporeyshs, dhmioyrgei ek twn pragmatwn proypoqeseis gia mia akomh megalyterh katanohsh kai apo thn allh pleyra, ths anagkhs na antimetwpistei kai na lyqei kai to ekkremes qema ths onomasias.

MIXAHL: O Prwqypoyrgos, pairnontas thn prwtoboylia na synanthsei apo shmera toys arxhgoys twn politikwn kommatwn kai toys tews Prwqypoyrgoys kyrioys Mhtsotakh kai Rallh, ti prosdoka, ti perimenei apo aytes tis synanthseis; Aplws qa einai mia syzhthsh gia to ti ginetai; Ti akribws anamenei, ti qa zhthsei apo aytoys;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa enhmerwsei toys politikoys arxhgoys kai qa akoysei tis apoceis toys. Oi idees kai oi ektimhseis twn politikwn arxhgwn einai pantote xrhsimes. Sto plaisio ayths ths syzhthshs o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei th dynatothta na enhmerwsei toys arxhgoys twn allwn kommatwn, gia thn politikh poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh sto sygkekrimeno qema. Pisteyw oti einai h katallhlh stigmh gia aytes tis synanthseis, giati h Ellada qa prepei, prokeimenoy na perifroyrhqoyn ta eqnika ths symferonta, na paroysiazetai oso einai dynaton me eniaio logo pros to dieqnes periballon.

BITSENTZOY: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an exei prohghqei, ths shmerinhs synanthsews toy Proedroy toy Synaspismoy me ton k. Milosebits, kapoia proergasia h synennohsh me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn h ton Prwqypoyrgo. An, dhladh, komizei genika kapoio mhnyma h kapoio aithma h kapoio sxedio ryqmishs h kapoia prwtoboylia ths ellhnikhs pleyras o k. Kwnstantopoylos.

REPPAS: Den exei prohghqei synennohsh metajy ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai toy k. Kwnstantopoyloy, gia to tajidi toy Proedroy toy Synaspismoy stis geitonikes xwres.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Qa yparjei sthn Oyasigkton dimerhs synanthsh Ellhnwn kai Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn;

REPPAS: Den problepetai kati tetoio. Den exei syzhthqei kati tetoio. Den mas exei apasxolhsei kati tetoio.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Shmera, yparxei kati pio sygkekrimeno, oson afora to perasma prosfygwn, oi opoioi qa pane sthn Toyrkia mesw Elladas;

REPPAS: Enas ariqmos prosfygwn qa prowqhqei pros thn Toyrkia, alla o sygkekrimenos ariqmos kai o tropos me ton opoio oi prosfyges qa katanemhqoyn se diafores xwres einai qema poy qa apasxolhsei ta organa ths E. E., poy synedriazoyn ayrio kai meqayrio. Emeis, bebaiws, otan prokeitai gia anqrwpistikoy xarakthra drasthriothtes eimaste pantote proqymoi na bohqhsoyme.

FILHS: Giati o Ellhnas monimos antiproswpos sto NATO synainese sthn idrysh natoikoy strathgeioy sthn Albania kai thn apostolh twn amerikanikwn epiqetikwn elikopterwn "Apatsi" sth xwra ayth, se energeies, dhladh, oi opoies me safhneia emplekoyn kai th xwra kai th symmaxia, bebaiws, ston polemo enantion ths Gioygkoslabias;

REPPAS: Oson afora thn emplokh ths xwras, se kaqe eidoys polemikh epixeirhsh h qesh mas einai safhs. Th diatypwnw kai pali: Den exei sxesh h opoia prwtoboylia analambanei to NATO, me emplokh ths Elladas se polemikes epixeirhseis. Ta tmhmata ta opoia ginetai skech na anaptyxqoyn sthn Albania, qa exoyn apostolh -ayto apofasizei, ws fainetai, h Symmaxia- na prosferoyn bohqeia stoys prosfyges, na kalycoyn tis anagkes twn prosfygwn. Ola ta alla ta opoia exoyn sxesh me polemikes epixeirhseis, me th xrhsimopoihsh xersaiwn dynamewn, den antapokrinontai sthn alhqeia, doqentos oti den exoyn teqei sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn epishmws, den exoyn apasxolhsei th Symmaxia kai den exoyn lhfqei apofaseis.

FILHS: Ta "Apatsi" qa pane h den qa pane sthn Albania;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti den exei lhfqei tetoia apofash. Den exei teqei tetoio qema. Ayto to opoio apasxolhse th Symmaxia einai na enisxyqei h paroysia twn stratiwtikwn tmhmatwn, poy yparxoyn ekei apo thn krish sthn Albania, me enan ariqmo stratiwtwn poy apostolh toys qa exoyn na bohqhsoyn toys prosfyges na antimetwpisoyn ta problhmata toys. Kai malista oi stratiwtes aytoi qa exoyn kapoia ejeidikeysh, prokeimenoy na prosferoyn praktikh bohqeia. Qa einai mhxanikoi, qa einai giatroi, qa einai, dhladh, stratiwtes diaforwn tetoiwn eidikothtwn.

FILHS: To exei anakoinwsei epishmws to Amerikaniko Pentagwno oti qa pane ta "Apatsi" sthn Albania kai metadidetai apo tis Bryjelles, apo antapokrites oti yphrje, xqes, syzhthsh twn monimwn antiproswpwn, opoy h Ellada htan kai ayth paroysa, ws 19h xwra.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti h paroysia stratiwtikwn dynamewn sthn Albania exei ayto to xarakthra. Den exei lhfqei apofash apo to NATO gia thn analhch allwn stratiwtikwn drasthriothtwn. Ayto to ekana safes kai menw se ayto.

FILHS: Ean pane ta "Apatsi", loipon, kai tetoies epiqetikes h stratiwtikes dynameis sthn Albania ypo thn hgesia Italoy, opws legetai, dioikhth toy natoikoy strathgeioy, qa symmetexei sto natoiko strathgeio kai analogh dynamh "kalwn Samareitwn" Ellhnwn;

REPPAS: H Ellada den qa exei kamia emplokh se otidhpote synista polemikh epixeirhsh, logw ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. H qesh mas einai safhs.

FILHS: H ellhnikh, mikrh h megalh, dynamh poy qa paei ws "kaloi Samareites" sthn Albania...

REPPAS: Den tiqetai katw apo tis odhgies h th dioikhsh opoioydhpote alloy paragonta. H apostolh ths einai poly sygkekrimenh. Gnwrizete oti exei dhmioyrghqei ena stratopedo konta sta Tirana, sto Ismperis, kai h bohqeia poy prosferei stoys prosfyges einai shmantikh. Ayto qa synexisei na kanei.

FILHS: Apo poioys qa syntonizetai ayth h energeia; Poios analambanei thn eyqynh;

REPPAS: Den exei kamia sxesh me thn anaptyjh drasthriothtwn polemikoy xarakthra. Na einai safes ayto.

FILHS: To ellhniko aghma apo poioys qa pairnei diatages sthn Albania;

REPPAS: To tmhma, to tagma twn 200 kai pleon andrwn poy yparxei ayth thn wra sta Tirana prosferei anqrwpistikh bohqeia. Den kanei otidhpote allo. Den prokeitai -epanalambanw- me opoiodhpote ameso h emmeso tropo na entaxqei se sxediasmoys poy aforoyn polemikh drasthriothta, logw ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Den sas arkei ayto; Einai poly safes ayto poy lew.

FILHS: H ellhnikh dynamh poy qa symmetasxei stoys 6.000 natoikoys sthn Albania, qa telei ypo tis entoles toy natoikoy strathgeioy;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola, den exoyme apofasisei an qa steiloyme kai alles dynameis. Einai kati poy mas apasxolei, den to exoyme apofasisei. Mhn protrexoyme, loipon. Antilambaneste pws eimaste mprosta se mia krish, se enan polemo. Den einai logiko kai ypeyqyno na syzhtoyme me enan tropo, o opoios den einai kai toso sobaros. Qa antimetwpisoyme ta qemata, ta opoia ejelissontai me poly gorgo ryqmo, me ton pio ypeyqyno tropo. Dwste mas ayto to dikaiwma, ayth th dynatothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Tsoxatzopoylos den eipe oti qa steiloyme 300 akomh;

REPPAS: Eipa ki egw apo thn Kyriakh -kai ayth einai h qesh ths kybernhshs- oti opoy prepei na eimaste parontes gia na perifroyrhsoyme ta eqnika symferonta, qa eimaste parontes. Einai kati, omws, poy me sygkekrimeno pleon tropo prepei na antimetwpisoyme kai ayth thn wra den exoyme labei sxetikh apofash.

FILHS: Aytoi oi 300 me tis entoles poioy qa einai;

REPPAS: Den yparxoyn 300 ayth thn wra.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxei h plhroforia oti h kybernhsh zhthse apo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias na rijei toys tonoys, giati enoxleitai to NATO. Alhqeyei ayth h plhroforia;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnei me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Eixan kai shmera thlefwnikh epikoinwnia. H kybernhsh den exei kanei ypodeijeis ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Den eixe kai den exei logoys na kanei ypodeijeis ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias, o opoios askei me aristo tropo ta kaqhkonta toy. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kaleite toys dieyqyntes twn kanaliwn kai toys dieyqyntes twn efhmeridwn. Gia ti qema toys kaleite;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh, dia toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn kai toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas, krinei skopimo na kalesei toys epikefalhs twn Meswn Enhmerwshs se mia anoixth syzhthsh, xwris periorismoys kai makria apo ta fwta ths dhmosiothtas, prokeimenoy na toys enhmerwsei gia thn politikh poy akoloyqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn ESHEA giati den thn kaleite;

REPPAS: Ayto einai to qema; Me ta Mesa Enhmerwshs syzhtame, den syzhtame me syndikalistikoys kai epaggelmatikoys foreis.

BITALHS: Yparxoyn ta dyo Symboylia sthn E. E. kai ekei teqhke, kai xqes, apo thn pleyra toy k. Talmpot kai allwn paragontwn to qema twn prosfygwn kai toy ariqmoy poy prepei na dexqei h Ellada. Exete jekaqarisei oti ayto qa ginei mesa apo mia diadikasia poy akoloyqeitai sthn E. E. Wstoso, h ellhnikh pleyra exei kaqorisei kapoio sygkekrimeno ariqmo prosfygwn poy qa dexqei;

REPPAS: Asfalws kai exei kaqorisei. Kai proserxetai se aytes tis syzhthseis me sygkekrimenes protaseis, me sygkekrimeno kai oloklhrwmeno sxedio. Alla, epeidh aytes oi syzhthseis qa exoyn kai enan xarakthra diapragmateyshs, mhn perimenete apo emas na anakoinwsoyme twra ton ariqmo twn prosfygwn poy protiqemeqa na filojenhsoyme.

Eyxaristw poly.

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