Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-12-17

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 17 Dekembrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, tis teleytaies wres, exoyme ejelijeis sto Irak. To Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei ekdwsei anakoinwsh, thn opoia qa exete sth diaqesh sas. Sas diabazw, akribws, ti anaferetai sthn anakoinwsh ayth, gia ta gegonota sto Irak:

"H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh parakoloyqei me idiaiterh prosoxh tis ejelijeis sto Irak kai ekfrazei thn elpida oti oi epixeirhseis qa einai syntomes se xronikh diarkeia kai qa termatistoyn.

H Ellada katebale kaq` olo to xroniko diasthma poy parhlqe prospaqeies pros oles tis kateyqynseis, wste na efarmostoyn oi apofaseis ths dieqnoys koinothtas kai toy Symboylioy Asfaleias poy aforoyn stis apagoreyseis kai toys elegxoys sthn paragwgh xhmikwn kai allwn oplwn mazikwn katastrofwn.

Oi apokliseis apo tis apofaseis kai ta proskommata sto ergo ths UNSCOM gia thn efarmogh twn apofasewn aytwn einai katadikastees.

O sebasmos toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, symperilambanomenwn twn apofasewn toy Symboylioy Asfaleias, o sebasmos twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn kai to aparabiasto twn synorwn apoteloyn basikes arxes epi twn opoiwn edrazontai h dieqnhs asfaleia kai h pagkosmia eirhnh kai apoteloyn tis basikes kateyqynseis ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs.

O laos toy Irak den eyqynetai gia tis energeies twn kybernwntwn toy. H sklhrh dokimasia poy yfistatai apo kairo qa prepei na termatistei me th synergasia ths irakinhs kybernhshs kai ths dieqnoys koinothtas. "

Qa hqela na sas dwsw, peran ths anakoinwshs toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, merika stoixeia gia to qema ayto: Xqes, o Amerikanos presbhs sthn Aqhna k. Mperns episkefqhke sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ton Yfypoyrgo Gianno Kranidiwth. Ton enhmerwse gia to oti h ekqesh toy ekproswpoy toy OHE k. Mpatler htan arnhtikh gia th stash toy Irak, ara htan endexomeno na analhfqei kapoia stratiwtikh drash.

H Ellada, oi armodioi kybernhtikoi paragontes parakoloyqoyn lepto pros lepto tis ejelijeis. O k. Pagkalos epistrefei se liges wres sthn Ellada. O k. Tsoxatzopoylos brisketai stis Bryjelles kai symmetexei sth Synodo twn Ypoyrgwn Amynas twn xwrwn-melwn toy NATO. To kentro epixeirhsewn toy GEEQA, opws se analoges periptwseis, brisketai se etoimothta. Den exei zhthqei apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh h paroxh dieykolynsewn h h symmetoxh me kapoion allo tropo se drasthriothtes poy anaptyssontai. O k. Kranidiwths sygkalese syskech twn yphresiakwn paragontwn kai xqes kai shmera to prwi sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Eixe, pali shmera, epikoinwnia me ton Amerikano presbh kai ton Bretano presbh k. Smiq.

H ellhnikh kybernhsh brisketai, epishs, se synexeis diaboyleyseis, gia to qema ayto, me toys ekproswpoys twn xwrwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

Akomh, egine syskech ypo ton Prwqypoyrgo me th symmetoxh twn kyriwn G. Papandreoy kai G. Kranidiwth, sthn opoia ejetasthke h katastash opws diamorfwnetai kai ejelissetai. Ekdoqhke h anakoinwsh poy sas anegnwsa molis prin.

Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta aytes tis ejelijeis kai elpizoyme, to syntomotero dynato, na termatistei ayth h krish.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KARASABBA: Na ennohsw, me bash thn anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, poy leei oti oi apokliseis apo tis apofaseis toy Symboylioy Asfaleias einai katadikastees, oti yposthrizete ayth thn epembash kai ton tropo me ton opoio xeirizontai ayth thn krish oi HPA kai h Bretania;

REPPAS: Pisteyoyme oti prepei me eirhniko tropo na anazhteitai kai na dinetai lysh sta problhmata poy prokyptoyn. Pisteyoyme oti den einai dynaton h paragwgh-katoxh xhmikwn oplwn na mas afhnei adiaforoys. Prepei h dieqnhs koinothta na antidrasei se ayth thn apeilh. Me ayth thn ennoia kai se synennohsh me tis alles xwres, poy exoyn ekdhlwsei megalo endiaferon gia tis ejelijeis ston Kolpo, diatypwsame th qesh, thn opoia leptomerws sas anakoinwsa prin.

KARASABBA: Ara yposthrizete thn epembash.

REPPAS: Hmoyn para poly safhs, afoy ekana mia analytikh anafora stis qeseis mas.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw gia th Soyda, an anamenetai na xrhsimopoihqoyn oi ekei egkatastaseis;

REPPAS: Den exei teqei opoiodhpote qema, ews twra, gia xrhsimopoihsh twn egkatastasewn sth Soyda. To eipa.

KIAOS: Th Soyda, ws NATOikh bash;

REPPAS: Sas eipa, exoyme gnwsh toy an h Soyda tiqetai sth diaqesh twn NATOikwn dynamewn. Den exei teqei tetoio qema, twra.

KIAOS: Qewrei h kybernhsh oti eprepe na yparxei, prohgoymenws, apofash toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE kai meta na ginei h epiqesh;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto h dieqnhs koinothta exei orisei ena safes plaisio. Pws, dhladh, prepei na antimetwpistei to qema. H Epitroph Epithrhshs ekane to ergo ths. H ekqesh toy k. Mpatler einai safhs kai ayth akribws prodiegrace thn poreia twn pragmatwn.

KIAOS: Anaferomai sth xqesinh epiqesh h opoia synexizetai. Gi` ayth th sygkekrimenh epiqesh, h kybernhsh qewrei oti o epitiqemenos eprepe, prohgoymenws, na exei h oxi entolh apo to Symboylio Asfaleias;

REPPAS: H drasthriothta ayth entassetai sto plaisio twn apofasewn poy exei labei h dieqnhs koinothta kai to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE gia thn antimetwpish toy sygkekrimenoy problhmatos.

KIAOS: Stis diaboyleyseis poy eipate me toys etairoys ths E. E., yparxei periptwsh na synanthqoyn oi Ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn, entos ths hmeras, sto Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Den einai endexomeno ayto.

KIAOS: Epeidh h qesh ths Gallias einai A`, h qesh ths Bretanias einai B`, h qesh ths Germanias einai G`, h kybernhsh ti kanei sthn prokeimenh periptwsh, epeidh qesh ths einai pws sthn Enwmenh Eyrwph prepei na yparxei eniaia ejwterikh politikh. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh ti prattei; Pws mporei na sygkerasqoyn Parisi, Londino, Bonnh;

REPPAS: Den qa milhsw gia logariasmo kybernhsewn allwn xwrwn. Sas aneptyja tis qeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Oson afora thn E. E., thn Proedria ths askei h filh Aystria. Efoson h Aystria probei, me thn idiothta ths proedreyoysas xwras, se sxetikh anakoinwsh, ekei qa ekfrastei h politikh ths E. E..

SOYGLERHS: Maqame oti o prwtos poy enhmerwqhke htan o k. Tsoxatzopoylos, xqes stis Bryjelles. Qelw na sas rwthsw me poion tropo kai poios ton enhmerwse kai an kapoio allo melos ths kybernhshs eixe enhmerwsh oti qa ginotan epembash ston Kolpo.

REPPAS: Sas eipa, oti o k. Mperns episkefqhke, xqes to prwi, ton k. Kranidiwth. O k. Kranidiwths epikoinwnhse me ton k. Tsoxatzopoylo kai syzhthsan to qema. Ola ta alla, se genikes grammes, einai opws akribws sas ta anefera. Parakoloyqoyme apo konta tis ejelijeis kai briskomaste se synennohsh kai syntonismo me tis alles xwres.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an exete kapoio sxolio, sxetika me to timing ths epiqeshs kai an pisteyete oti syndeetai me tis eswterikes ejelijeis stis HPA.

REPPAS: Exoyn ginei polles ektimhseis. Ektimhseis poy sxetizontai me tis eswterikes ejelijeis kai thn katastash poy antimetwpizei sto eswteriko ths xwras toy o Proedros k. Klinton. Ektimhseis, oi opoies syndeoyn thn epiqesh ayth me thn timh toy petrelaioy. Ola ayta, mporei kaneis na ta ajiologhsei. Ayto to opoio, omws, exei shmasia, einai oti edw yparxei ena pragmatiko problhma, poy den einai allo apo thn katoxh xhmikwn oplwn. H katoxh ayth synista pagkosmia apeilh. Pisteyw oti o logos aytos den prepei na mas diafeygei, ws logos o opoios einai isxyros gia na prokalesei to endiaferon kai thn antidrash ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas.

KIAOS: O k. Pagkalos, symfwna me dhmosieymata, diabazw kai sthn 'Eleyqerotypia', feretai na dhlwse oti xreiazotan, prohgoymenws, apofash toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE, gia thn epiqesh. Eseis eipate kati diaforetiko.

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos, me ton opoio -opws antilambaneste- h epikoinwnia einai diarkhs, ekfrazetai mesa apo to keimeno ayto ths anakoinwshs toy YPEJ, kaqws exei symbalei sth diatypwsh aytoy toy keimenoy. Antilambaneste, loipon, pws einai symfwnos me thn ekfrash twn qesewn, tis opoies aneptyja prin.

KIAOS: Ti apantate sta ellhnika kommata -ths Aristeras exw ypoch moy anakoinwseis- ta opoia xarakthrizoyn ws "tyxodiwktikh kai gkagksterikh", thn epiqesh twn HPA kai ths Bretanias sto Irak;

REPPAS: Ta politika kommata exoyn dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn tis qeseis toys. Mporoyn, bebaiws, na anazhthsoyn, epikoinwnwntas me thn kybernhsh kai idiaitera me to YPEJ, perissoteres plhrofories, prokeimenoy na exoyn gnwsh twn pragmatwn, an ayto qewroyn oti einai xrhsimo gia na mporoyn etsi na exoyn mia pio safh kai oloklhrwmenh eikona, wste meta apo ayto na proxwrhsoyn sth diatypwsh ths telikhs qeshs toys.

KIAOS: Apo to teleytaio na symperanei kaneis oti h kybernhsh skopeyei na enhmerwsei ta Kommata aytoboylws h perimenei na...

REPPAS: H kybernhsh einai sth diaqesh kaqe endiaferomenoy, kaqe politikoy arxhgoy, kaqe politikoy kommatos, prokeimenoy na symbalei sthn enhmerwsh toys.

EYSTAQIOY: Einai katanohtes oi anhsyxies gia thn ejaplwsh twn xhmikwn oplwn, alla, den anhsyxei thn kybernhsh to endexomeno mia tetoia epiqesh na apotelesei ena prohgoymeno kata opoiasdhpote allhs xwras, me aformh h kai me profash ta xhmika opla poy paragei endexomenws ayth h xwra;

REPPAS: Kaqe polemikh krish poy pairnei tetoies diastaseis apotelei phgh anhsyxias kai pollwn kindynwn. Gi` ayto, akribws, anamenomeno kai logiko einai, mia tetoia ejelijh na mhn einai eyxaristh. Kai mas anhsyxei. Asfalws, mas anhsyxei. Alla, h Dieqnhs Koinothta qa prepei na antimetwpisei tetoioy eidoys problhmata me energo tropo, giati den einai dynaton na parateinetai h ekkremothta ep` apeiron. Poly perissotero, otan diakybeyetai h asfaleia h h zwh katoikwn, amaxwn, otan ekdhlwnontai tetoioy eidoys kriseis. Qa prepei, loipon, egkaira kai me apotelesmatiko tropo na antimetwpizontai aytoy toy eidoys ta problhmata.

KIAOS: Otan omileite synexws peri Dieqnoys Koinothtas, se poia dieqnh koinothta anafereste, otan apo ta monima melh toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE, Bretania kai HPA ekanan thn epiqesh, Gallia-Rwsia-Kina katadikazoyn kai den symmetexoyn; Pws metafrazetai o oros Dieqnhs Koinoths;

REPPAS: Miloyme gia ton OHE, o opoios orise Epitroph, gia na epithrhsei pws xeirizetai h irakinh kybernhsh to sygkekrimeno zhthma, ayto, dhladh, poy afora thn katoxh kai xrhsh twn xhmikwn oplwn. H Ekqesh toy epikefalhs k. Mpatler, htan tetoia poy odhghse sto na analhfqei ayth h drasthriothta. To Symboylio Asfaleias synedriazei. Qa prepei na anamenete tis apofaseis toy.

KIAOS: Oxi, den symfwnhsan ola ta Monima melh toy Symboylioy Asfaleias me tis energeies toy k. Mpatler.

REPPAS: H Ekqesh toy k. Mpatler apotelei to epistegasma ths apostolhs poy toy aneqese o OHE. Den htan monos toy ekei o k. Mpatler, htan epikefalhs mias Epitrophs kai eixe analabei sygkekrimena kaqhkonta. Diekperaiwse ta kaqhkonta poy toy anateqhkan kai proxwrhse sth diatypwsh ayths ths Ekqeshs.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: H prwth epishmh dhlwsh poy egine gia to qema kai thn opoia exw ypoch moy, einai h dhlwsh poy ekane xqes sta kanalia o k. Apostolakhs, o opoios dhlwse oti, bebaiws kai h kybernhsh den symfwnei me tetoioy eidoys monomereis energeies apo thn pleyra twn HPA kai ths Bretanias. Hqela na rwthsw ean metebale apoch o k. Apostolakhs kai an aytes oi dhlwseis poy eixe kanei eixan ginei xwris synennohsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

REPPAS: Den qa milhsw ek meroys toy k. Apostolakh, qa milhsw ek meroys ths kybernhshs. O k. Apostolakhs einai melos ths kybernhshs. H kybernhsh diatypwse th qesh ths me thn anakoinwsh poy sas anegnwsa molis prin.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na kanete kapoio sxolio -epeidh anaferqhkate sthn anagkh prostasias twn amaxwn apo th xrhsh xhmikwn h allwn oplwn- gia toys nekroys amaxoys, poy opws plhroforoymaste, yparxoyn ayth th stigmh sth Bagdath.

REPPAS: Qa prepei na ejakribwqei an ta stoixeia einai etsi opws anaferontai apo diafores phges. Dystyxws, meta apo tetoies epiqeseis, mia synepeia einai na exoyn proklhqei zhmies kai na yparxoyn kai qymata. Lypoymaste. Lypoymaste baqytata, giati amaxoi ginontai qymata mias afronos politikhs stashs mias kybernhshs kai plhrwnoyn me th zwh toys h me traymatismo, tetoioy eidoys energeies kai epiloges.

PARIS: Pisteyete pragmatika oti yparxei akoma ayth h ekkremothta twn xhmikwn oplwn; Milame synexeia gia thn ekkremothta twn xhmikwn oplwn apo thn epoxh toy polemoy toy Kolpoy. Mhpws gnwrizoyme an yparxoyn ayta ta xhmika opla;

REPPAS: Ara, loipon, ap oti antilambanomai apo thn erwthsh poy kanete, exete mia amfibolia an yfistatai akomh qema xhmikwn oplwn h qewreite epeidh yfistatai to qema twn xhmikwn oplwn, oti einai anagkaia mia tetoia prwtoboylia gia na antimetwpistei kai na lyqei me riziko kai telesidiko tropo. Pantws, aytos einai o logos, gia ton opoio analhfqhke h sygkekrimenh stratiwtikh drash. H Ekqesh, h opoia odhghse se ayth thn prwtoboylia, mila peri aytoy kai nomizw apetelese kai ton odhgo, ton piloto, gia na analhfqei ayth drasthriothta.

PARIS: Pisteyete oti me ayto ton tropo, me ayth thn epiqesh qa lyqei telesidika to problhma ayto;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh den exei idiaiteres h eidikes kai leptomereis plhrofories gia to sygkekrimeno ayto qema. H kybernhsh basizetai sthn Ekqesh poy diatypwsan aytoi poy ejoysiodothqhkan apo ton OHE na melethsoyn to qema kai na proboyn se protaseis.

EYSTAQIOY: Einai gnwsto kai exei graftei -fantazomai oti o kaqenas to gnwrizei- oti se orismenes prwhn Sobietikes Dhmokraties yparxoyn pyrhnika opla. Nomimopoieitai, gia paradeigma, kai o Gieltsin na kanei kapoia epiqesh enantion, logoy xarh, toy Azermpaitzan;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti kanoyme ena alma logikhs. Gnwrizete poia einai h qesh mas gia ta pyrhnika opla kai ta pyrhnika oplostasia. Paramenoyme se ayth th qesh, h opoia pisteyw oti briskei symfwnoys ki esas kai oloklhrh thn anqrwpothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy sxoliasete th xqesinh nea dhlwsh twn Toyrkwn sxetika me thn egkatastash twn S-300 sthn Krhth, oti den qeloyn oyte ekei na egkatastaqoyn oi pyrayloi giati kindyneyei h Toyrkia.

REPPAS: Tetoioy eidoys dhlwseis apoteloyn diakwmwdhsh twn kanonwn kai twn arxwn toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy. Pisteyoyme oti h stash ayth twn ajiwmatoyxwn ths Toyrkias dhlwnei to adiejodo sto opoio exei perielqei h ejwterikh politikh ths xwras toys. H Toyrkia fainetai oti paragei perissotera problhmata apo osa mporei na lysei. Kai nomizw oti ayto prepei na thn problhmatisei. Anti na anazhta alloy prosxhmata, prokeimenoy na anaptyssei ayth thn epiqetikh kai proklhtikh stash, kalo einai na dei katamata thn pragmatikothta. Kai bebaiws, oxi mono na mhn paragei nea problhmata, alla na lysei kai ayta ta opoia yfistantai shmera sthn Toyrkia. Kata ta alla ayth h dhlwsh exei mikrh ajia gia mas, giati bebaiws to qema ths amynas ths Kyproy h to qema ths amynas ths Elladas den qa kaqoristei me bash tis dhlwseis twn Toyrkwn ajiwmatoyxwn. Einai eirwneia, einai kati to opoio den mporei na antimetwpistei sobara, to na dhlwnoyn Toyrkoi ajiwmatoyxoi me "krokodeilia" dakrya oti anhsyxoyn gia thn asfaleia ths Toyrkias apo thn politikh ths Elladas, poy einai mia fileirhnikh politikh, mia politikh h opoia exei diadramatisei enan prwtagwnistiko rolo gia thn asfaleia, thn eirhnh kai th staqerothta sthn perioxh, me polles prwtoboylies poy analambanei. Me ayth thn ennoia, tetoioy eidoys isxyrismoi apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias epistrefontai ws aparadektoi, giati pisteyw oti den exoyn qesh sto sygxrono kosmo. Den mporei h Toyrkia ths eisbolhs, ths katoxhs, h Toyrkia toy Attila na dhlwnei oti anhsyxei apo thn fileirhnikh politikh ths Elladas kai ths Kyproy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete kapoia plhroforia gia to ti qa periexoyn oi nees apofaseis toy Symboylioy Asfaleias gia to Kypriako;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti epikeitai synedriash toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE. Anamenetai h ekdosh chfismatos poy qa apotima tis parembatikes, mesolabhtikes energeies ths kas Xerkoys kai qa dinei mia kateyqynsh gia thn parapera prowqhsh twn prospaqeiwn gia thn anazhthsh lyshs sto Kypriako problhma. Qa asxolhqei, bebaiws, kai me thn ananewsh ths qhteias twn andrwn toy OHE. Pisteyoyme oti kai to neo chfisma qa einai enas akomh krikos sthn alysida twn chfismatwn poy exoyn ekdoqei kai twn apofasewn poy exoyn lhfqei apo ton OHE, poy orizoyn kai to politiko plaisio entos toy opoioy prepei na anazhthqei lysh sto Kypriako problhma. Ayth h alysida, omws -epeidh milhsa gia krikoys kai alysida- den qa prepei na einai alysida poy qa krata demenh thn Kypro ws omhro. Qa prepei, epiteloys, na lyqei to Kypriako. Elpizoyme oti o OHE qa deijei isxyrh boylhsh na pragmatopoihsei ayto poy se epipedo qewrias kai keimenwn exei hdh kanei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Rwthsa, giati yparxei ena eggrafo toy k. Kranidiwth pros toys presbeis twn pente monimwn melwn sto opoio mesa exei plhrofories oti qa ferei ton Attila sthn idia qesh me thn Kypro.

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto, ayth thn wra, den exoyme na poyme tipota parapanw. Asfalws, ginontai diaboyleyseis, yparxoyn epikoinwnies, antallassontai plhrofories kai ginontai prospaqeies, epeidh polloi paragontes symmetexoyn s` aytoy toy eidoys th leitoyrgia, gia na exoyme thn kalyterh dynath ejelijh.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: H egkatastash h mh twn pyraylwn qa ejarthqei apo to periexomeno toy chfismatos toy Symboylioy Asfaleias...;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema twn pyraylwn xeirizetai ypeyqyna h Kypriakh Kybernhsh. O Proedros Klhridhs qa staqmisei ola ta dedomena. Efoson to chfisma toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE periexei stoixeia, ta opoia qa prepei na synektimhqoyn, mazi me alloys paragontes, apo thn Kypriakh Kybernhsh, tote me aisqhma eyqynhs -kai diakrinetai apo eyqynh h Kypriakh Kybernhsh- qa to kanei, qa ajiologhsei kai ta stoixeia ayta.

KIAOS: Me to dedomeno ths epiqesews, opws anaferei kai h anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn kai ths Bretanias enantion toy Irak. Me to dedomeno oti h Toyrkia epi 25 xronia, oxi aplws den efarmozei, alla exei "ftysei" -mporw na pw, an moy epitrepetai- tis apofaseis kai ta chfismata toy OHE. Me to dedomeno oti synexizetai h katapathsh twn stoixeiwdwn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn sthn Kypro me thn katoxh toy boreioy tmhmatos ths Kyproy, skeftetai h Kybernhsh na zhthsei thn epembash twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn gia na epiteqoyn sthn Toyrkia, wste na efarmostoyn epiteloys oi apofaseis twn Hnwmenwn Eqnwn;

REPPAS: Ta qemata ayta ta opoia qetete me thn erwthsh sas ta exei qesei edw kai polla xronia h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh -kai oxi mono me thn paroysa synqesh ths- epeidh akribws apoteloyn systatika stoixeia ths askoymenhs ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, kat` epanalhch, exei katadikastei h Toyrkia toso gia th stash ths sto Kypriako qema, oso kai gia th symperifora twn kybernhsewn ths sto qema twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn sto eswteriko ths. Kai exei klhqei h Toyrkia na symmorfwqei me th dieqnh ennomh tajh. Bebaiws, ayto den exei epiteyxqei gi` ayto yfistantai problhmata se oloys aytoys toys tomeis. Milhsa prin -ki ayto akribws hqela na shmeiwsw- gia th diafora poy yparxei anamesa sta keimena poy exoyn apofasistei gia tetoia qemata kai sthn praktikh poy akoloyqeitai. Yparxei mia apostash, mia anantistoixia. Ayth thn anantistoixia, asfalws, thn epishmainoyme kai thn kaythriazoyme. Kai einai ypokrisia na askeitai mia politikh me dyo metra kai dyo staqma. Epiteloys, to Kypriako qema prepei na lyqei. Epiteloys, prepei me politika mesa na lyqoyn alla problhmata ta opoia yfistantai sthn Toyrkia. Kai prepei h Toyrkia na exei mia allh symperifora, wste na symbalei sthn anaptyjh sxesewn kalhs geitonias sthn eyryterh perioxh.

KIAOS: Skopeyei h Kybernhsh, rwthsa, na zhthsei na epiteqei o OHE sthn Toyrkia, gia na efarmostoyn oi apofaseis toy, opws epeteqh sto Irak;

REPPAS: H Ellada pisteyei oti prepei na efarmostoyn oi apofaseis toy OHE. Oi apofaseis aytes den problepoyn, metajy twn metrwn, oyte kata yponoia, epiqesh twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn enantion ths Toyrkias. Gnwrizete, omws, poly kala -kai epanerxomai sto qema toy Irak- oti kati tetoio yponoeito, oson afora thn antimetwpish apo th dieqnh koinothta toy problhmatos twn xhmikwn oplwn poy yparxoyn sto Irak. Emeis, otan zhtoyme thn efarmogh twn apofasewn toy OHE, zhtoyme thn efarmogh aytwn twn apofasewn. Tipota perissotero. Alla -kai to tonizw ayto- kai tipota ligotero. Qa prepei na efarmostoyn aytes oi apofaseis.

EYSTAQIOY: Gnwrizete an exei zhthsei h prokeitai na zhthsei o Prwqypoyrgos thn paraithsh toy k. Foyra kai toy k. Benizeloy gia to "politiko-aqlhtiko skandalo" me ton PAOK;

REPPAS: Ayth einai mia dikh sas ekdoxh, enas dikos sas xarakthrismos. Tetoio qema den yfistatai. H synergasia twn dyo Ypoyrgwn me ton Prwqypoyrgo einai aristh. Antapokrinontai sta kaqhkonta toys.

KIAOS: Sxetika me to qema ths Paideias mia erwthsh: Epeidh xqes, o k. Arsenhs afhse arketes aixmes enantion synadelfwn toy Ypoyrgwn kai allwn paragontwn, prwton, ti ennoei o Prwqypoyrgos otan leei oti elpizei ews ta Xristoygenna o dialogos na apodwsei, na exei apotelesmata kai deyteron, ti ginetai me to dialogo, ews poio baqmo qa ftasei kai poy qa ypoxwrhsei o k. Arsenhs;

REPPAS: Ta qemata ayta ta xeirizetai o k. Arsenhs. Sthn prospaqeia poy kanei na prowqhsei thn efarmogh ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs, exei thn omoqymh sthrijh olwn twn melwn ths Kybernhshs. Pisteyoyme oti h metarryqmish antapokrinetai stis anagkes twn kairwn. Einai xreos olwn na symbaloyn, wste twra -an einai dynaton- na antimetwpistei kai na lyqei h krish poy mastizei thn ekpaideytikh koinothta. H prospaqeia, poy kataballei o k. Arsenhs mas ekfrazei oloys. Kai me ayth thn ennoia, ws armodios Ypoyrgos, pisteyoyme oti qa epityxei telika, me kalyterh enhmerwsh, me entonoterh epikoinwnia me toys endiaferomenoys foreis ston ekpaideytiko xwro, na odhghsei ta pragmata ekei poy oloi epiqymoyme: sthn epanafora ths hremias sto xwro twn sxoleiwn.

KIAOS: Exei ypobalei paraithsh;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Oyte kan -fantazomai- tetoia skech yparxei! Kai parakalw mhn to anamenete.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei proslabei to Lazopoylo gia na prowqhsei thn ekpaideytikh metarryqmish;

REPPAS: Den apantw sthn erwthsh sas, giati prepei na strafw -an dextw to nohma kai to pneyma ths erwthshs sas- enantion synadelfwn sas poy doyleyoyn se hlektronika Mesa Enhmerwshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Arsenhs kanei dialogo me toys maqhtes. Kanei dialogo kai me toys hqopoioys;

REPPAS: O k. Arsenhs klhqhke se mia ekpomph. Antapokriqhke sthn prosklhsh kai ayto ton tima idiaitera. Kai gnwrizete giati. Apo kei kai pera, apedeije oti epiqymei na ginetai dialogos gia to qema poy exei prokycei sto xwro ths Paideias. Oi syntelestes ths ekpomphs, ws oikodespotes, einai aytoi poy orizoyn kai th synqesh twn paragontwn poy pairnoyn meros se mia tetoia syzhthsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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