Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-12-16

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 16 Dekembrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, alhqeyei ayto poy dhmosieyetai kai legetai apo ta radiothleoptika mesa oti o Prwqypoyrgos edwse entolh ston k. Arsenh na arxisei dialogo, me skopo na yparjei kapoia tropopoihsh, kapoia allagh sto qema ths ekpaideyshs;

REPPAS: To qema ths Paideias to xeirizetai poly ypeyqyna o armodios ypoyrgos. Sto plaisio twn xeirismwn toy, exei metajy twn allwn proxwrhsei kai se dialogo. Exei kalesei toys endiaferomenoys foreis na syzhthsoyn qemata efarmoghs ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs. O k. Arsenhs, ws Ypoyrgos Paideias, einai o monadikos armodios na kanei oloys toys katallhloys xeirismoys, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato na efarmostei h ekpaideytikh metarryqmish sthn olothta ths ki etsi, aytos o nomos poy einai poly shmantikos kai xrhsimos, na parei "sarka kai osta". Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, o k. Arsenhs, sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy me toys endiaferomenoys foreis, epidiwkei thn antimetwpish kai ths krishs poy exei ekdhlwqei, me tis kinhtopoihseis, tis diadhlwseis, tis katalhceis orismenwn sxoleiwn. Ta qemata ayta ta xeirizetai ypeyqyna o k. Arsenhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxei parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos den parembainei sto ergo twn ypoyrgwn. O Prwqypoyrgos synergazetai me toys ypoyrgoys, gia kaqe tomea armodiothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti toy eipe, loipon;

REPPAS: Toy eipe, kanontas ayth thn episkophsh gia tis antidraseis, tis ejelijeis ston tomea ths Paideias, na xeiristei ta qemata, me ton tropo me ton opoio ekeinos krinei oti einai o pio apotelesmatikos kai wfelimos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis, omws, lete oti qa efarmostei h metarryqmish sthn olothta ths. Ti dialogo na kanoyn tote, efoson oi alles pleyres den symfwnoyn me oles tis ptyxes ayths ths metarryqmishs; Einai diateqeimenh h kybernhsh na allajei kati;

REPPAS: Oi alles pleyres qa prepei na proselqoyn se ena tetoio dialogo, na diatypwsoyn tis apoceis toys. Kai gia na to kanoyn ayto qa prepei na exoyn protaseis kai qeseis. Kalo einai na tis akoysoyme. Pera apo tis kinhtopoihseis, tis katalhceis twn sxoleiwn, yparxei kai to pedio ths eyqynhs, sto opoio qa prepei oloi na eimaste parontes. Kai prepei na eimaste parontes me ypeyqynes protaseis. O k. Arsenhs exei kalesei toys ekproswpoys twn ekpaideytikwn kai exei epidiwjei me systhmatiko tropo th syzhthsh me toys idioys toys maqhtes, twn qematwn ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs. Pisteyoyme oti ayth h prospaqeia qa brei antapokrish apo tis alles pleyres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo poy bgazete ayto to symperasma oti qa exei antapokrish;

REPPAS: Giati pisteyoyme oti einai kalwn diaqesewn toso oi ekpaideytikoi, oso kai oi maqhtes. Gnwrizoyn oti den einai pros ofelos twn idiwn, den einai pros ofelos ths xwras, h epi makro xroniko diasthma synthrhsh ayths ths katastashs. Qa prepei, loipon, na doqei mia lysh sto problhma. H kybernhsh, me th sygkekrimenh protash ths, exei kalesei se dialogo kai synennohsh toys endiaferomenoys foreis. Qa prepei na antapokriqoyn se ayth thn prosklhsh ths kybernhshs, oi sygkekrimenoi foreis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dialogos gia to dialogo; Qa kanei, sas lew, se kapoia shmeia pisw h kybernhsh; Einai diateqeimenh;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh exei pei thn protash ths. Pisteyoyme oti h protash ths Kybernhshs antapokrinetai se wrimes anagkes ths koinwnias. O dialogos exei thn koinwnikh shmasia kai thn ajia toy. Einai agaqo se mia koinwnia o dialogos. Omws, dialogos den shmainei opwsdhpote kai se kaqe periptwsh allagh ths politikhs ths kybernhshs. Giati kapoioi antilambanontai to dialogo kai se mia tetoia diastash kai ekdoxh. O dialogos einai mia synqesh apocewn. H kybernhsh einai ayth h opoia exei analabei thn prwtoboylia, h kybernhsh efarmozei sygkekrimenh politikh me bash nomo poy exei chfisei h Boylh twn Ellhnwn. O k. Arsenhs exei kalesei toys endiaferomenoys foreis gia na syzhthsei mazi toys ta qemata ths efarmoghs aytoy toy nomoy. Kai qa prepei oi alloi foreis na proselqoyn s` ayto to dialogo.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den ton ekane ayto to dialogo, prin;

REPPAS: Apanthsa s` ayta ta qemata. O k. Arsenhs exei kalesei ola ta kommata, oloys toys foreis, edw kai para poly kairo -ena, enamisi xrono, prin- poly prin akomh chfistei o sxetikos nomos, prokeimenoy na syzhthqoyn ta synafh qemata. Dystyxws, tote, den antapokriqhkan oi foreis. Oi epistoles poy exoyn apostalei, apo tis arxes toy 1997 kai meta, ews thn wra poy chfisthke o nomos, einai aceydhs martyras gia to oti eixan prosklhqei oi endiaferomenoi foreis na paroyn meros se mia tetoia diadikasia dialogoy, gia th syzhthsh twn qematwn ths ekpaideyshs.

SOYGLERHS: Mhpws efqase h stigmh na synelqei to Eqniko Symboylio Paideias, kati poy den exei ginei apo to 1995 kai meta; Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na kanei kati tetoio;

REPPAS: Exei zhthsei o Proedros, o k. Panaretos, th sygklish toy Symboylioy. Einai kati to opoio ej oswn gnwrizoyme -giati den einai kybernhtiko organo- programmatizetai kai mporei na ginei.

SOYGLERHS: H allh meqodos poy efarmozei edw kai dyo meres o k. Arsenhs, h thlediaskech, apodidei; Exete kapoia stoixeia na mas dwsete;

REPPAS: Ma, molis prin, miloysame gia thn ajia toy dialogoy. Mia morfh dialogoy me ajiopoihsh twn dynatothtwn poy mas prosferei h texnologia, einai ki aytos. Asfalws apodidei, giati opws eipa kai sthn arxh, oso perissotero enhmerwnontai oi maqhtes kai oi alloi foreis ths ekpaideytikhs koinothtas gia to periexomeno ths ekpaideytikhs metarryqmishs, toso ligoteros xwros menei sthn agnoia, thn amaqeia kai thn paraplhroforhsh. Gi` ayto pisteyoyme oti o dromos aytos, einai enas swstos dromos gia na ektonwqei h krish.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: To symbolaio gia toys S-300, oson afora to sxedio ths paradoshs, threitai kanonika h exoyme ek twn pragmatwn kapoia problhmata;;

REPPAS: Exw apanthsei gi` ayta ta qemata. Ta xeirizetai ypeyqyna h kypriakh kybernhsh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ta symballomena merh exoyn milhsei gia to qema ayto. Oi qeseis paramenoyn sto epipedo ekeino poy eixan ekfrastei otan egine h paraggelia.

POYLIDOY: Dhladh;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw ti einai ayto to opoio qelete na rwthsete.

POYLIDOY: Hmeromhnia.

REPPAS: Me rwthsate, edwsa mia apanthsh.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: O idios Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Pagkalos eixe dwsei kapoia hmeromhnia, prin apo dyo-treis ebdomades, s' ayto anaferomai, h opoia hmeromhnia htan h xqesinh.

REPPAS: Malista. H erwthsh poia einai;

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Alhqeyei ayto poy mas eixe pei o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn h oxi; REPPAS: Eipa oti ta qemata ta xeirizontai oi dyo pleyres, h kypriakh kybernhsh kai h rwsikh etaireia. Gnwrizete oti oi qeseis poy exoyn ekfrasei, einai aytes stis opoies kai shmera paramenoyn. Den exoyn allajei politikh, den exoyn ekfrasei diaforetikes qeseis.

POYLIDOY: Ara, fortwqhkan oi pyrayloi;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti to qema ayto to xeirizontai oi dyo pleyres. Ayto ti shmainei; Shmainei oti synennooyntai oi dyo pleyres gia to pws qa metaferqei sthn prajh ayto poy apotelei symfwnia toys, edw kai arketo kairo.

POYLIDOY: Se synennohsh me thn Ellada eixe pei o k. Shmiths sthn koinh syskech.

REPPAS: H synennohsh me thn Ellada egine sto plaisio ths synanthshs poy pragmatopoihqhke prosfata, sthn Aqhna.

POYLIDOY: Epanaferoyme to erwthma: Fortwqhkan oi pyrayloi stis 15 toy mhnos, opws eixe pei o k. Pagkalos;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw leptomereies gia to pws oi dyo pleyres xeirizontai ena qema poy toys afora amesa. Emas mas afora, einai ena poly shmantiko qema. Pisteyoyme oti, opws kai se alles periptwseis -to exei apodeijei allwste- o Proedros ths Kyproy xeirizetai ayto to qema, me gnwmona to symferon ths amynas ths Kyproy. Den einai qema dhmosias syzhthshs oi leptomereies h to periexomeno aytwn twn symbasewn, pws efarmozontai, pws ylopoioyntai. Exoyn mia para poly eidikh shmasia.

POYLIDOY: Oysiastika afhnete anoixto to qema ths egkatastashs twn pyraylwn. Mporei kai na exoyn fortwqei, ayto mas lete. Exoyn fortwqei;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ayto to qema to xeirizontai oi dyo pleyres. Egw den exw tipota allo ypoch moy, peran twn oswn exoyn anakoinwqei dhmosia. Den exw plhroforhqei ta qemata, to pws oi dyo pleyres, stis leptomereies ths, xeirizontai mia symfwnia poy exoyn kanei edw kai arketo kairo. Apla, prosblepoyme pantote me empistosynh stoys xeirismoys poy kanei ypeyqyna h kypriakh kybernhsh. Htan safes ayto to opoio eipa.

Sas eyxaristw.

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