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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Noembrioy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Qa moy epitrecete eisagwgikws na kanw ena sxolio gia thn kakokairia poy ekdhlwqhke xqes. Na sas enhmerwsw oti hdh arxise na didetai to poson ths pronoiakhs bohqeias, ycoys 200.000 drx., stoys katoikoys twn perioxwn poy eplhghsan ki exoyn ypostei zhmies.

Proxwraei h diadikasia katagrafhs twn zhmiwn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn oi anagkes politwn kai epaggelmatiwn poy eplhghsan, symfwna me ta osa problepei to sxedio gia thn antimetwpish twn ektaktwn aytwn peristasewn.

O ELGA, apo th dikh toy pleyra, jekina th diadikasia ektimhshs twn zhmiwn gia tis agrotikes kalliergeies, prokeimenoy na doqoyn oi aparaithtes enisxyseis.

Asxhma kairika fainomena eixame, kyriws, sthn perioxh ths Fqiwtidas kai ths Anatolikhs Peloponnhsoy.

Oi Genikoi Grammateis Perifereias, oi Nomarxes, ola ta organa ths Dioikhshs olwn twn baqmidwn htan paronta.

O Yfypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Flwridhs exei epwmistei na parakoloyqhsei to ergo apo konta kai qa episkefqei tis perioxes gia na exoyme apotelesmatikoterh antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy proekycan.

Pisteyoyme oti epideixthke etoimothta. Dystyxws, tetoioy eidoys fainomena, me thn entash poy ekdhlwnontai, pantote dhmioyrgoyn problhmata ta opoia syxna einai ajeperasta. As elpisoyme na mhn yparxei dysmenhs synexeia.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Antiplhmmyrika erga qa ginoyn;

REPPAS: Antiplhmmyrika erga, ajias disekatommyriwn draxmwn, exoyn ginei polla. Bebaiws, oloklhrwnetai h diadikasia ayth se mikro xroniko diasthma. Opws eipe kai o armodios ypoyrgos, anaferomenos malista sto kairiko fainomeno poy ekdhlwqhke sthn Attikh -stis perioxes Glyfadas, Boyliagmenhs- einai h teleytaia fora poy paroysiazontai tetoia problhmata.

O ryqmos proodoy twn ergwn aytwn, doqentos oti to sxetiko programma jekinhse apo to 1994 kai meta, einai kanonikos, alla ta erga den exoyn oloklhrwqei. Gi` ayto, akribws, akomh se kapoies perioxes antimetwpizoyme problhmata, ta opoia, se megalo baqmo, ofeilontai kai sthn aneyqynothta me thn opoia polloi kratikoi leitoyrgoi symballoyn sthn ayqairesia idiwtwn poy kalyptoyn remata, ktizoyn se perioxes poy den prepei na ktisoyn, katapatoyn ektaseis. Ayth thn katastash, h opoia gia polla xronia odhghse se mia, kaqe allo para eyxaristh pragmatikothta, prepei na thn antimetwpisei h kybernhsh mas, giati einai mia katastash h opoia egkymonei pantote kindynoys. Ayth thn katastash thn antimetwpizoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poy exoyn ginei antiplhmmyrika erga;

REPPAS: Exoyn ginei erga. Qa anaferw ena paradeigma, to opoio exei sxesh me th xqesinh kakokairia. Prepei na sas pw oti sth Fqiwtida, to 1997, eixame ekdhlwsh paromoiwn kairikwn fainomenwn me akraia entash, dhmioyrghqhkan para polla problhmata. Me bash programma poy ekponhse h kybernhsh, to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, to YPEXWDE, eginan texnika erga. H dapanh gia ta erga ayta anhlqe sto ycos twn ennea dis drx. Ta erga ayta exoyn oloklhrwqei kai etsi fetos, sthn perioxh poy eixame ekeina ta problhmata prin apo dyo xronia, den eixame kanena problhma, para to oti sth sygkekrimenh perioxh -poy xreiasthke na ginoyn ayta ta texnika erga- eixame kai pali ekdhlwsh aytwn twn kairikwn fainomenwn. Alla antilambaneste pws to problhma mporei na jespasei, ana pasa stigmh, se kaqe perioxh ths Elladas, opoy gia polloys logoys kai epi para polla xronia, h ameleia, h abelthria h h ayqairesia pollwn paragontwn exei odhghsei sth dhmioyrgia mias dysaresths pragmatikothtas. Ta erga exoyn ginei. Emeina se ayto to poly sygkekrimeno paradeigma, anefera perioxh, anefera dapanh gia ta antiplhmmyrika erga poy eginan kai anefera, epishs, to oti xarh s` ayta ta erga den eixame fetos problhmata, para to oti ki ekei ekdhlwqhkan tetoia kairika fainomena.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Stylida poy einai, k. Ypoyrge; Sth Fqiwtida den einai;

REPPAS: Xairomai poy to lete, giati epibebaiwnete thn apanthsh poy edwsa. Sas eipa, loipon, oti sthn perioxh ekeinh poy ekdhlwqhkan kai fetos ayta ta entona fainomena, den eixame ta problhmata poy eixame to `97, epeidh akribws eginan erga. Eixame se alles perioxes, sth Stylida, opoy ki ekei xreiazetai, bebaiws, na antimetwpistei h katastash. An den eixan ginei ayta ta texnika erga -giati eseis mesw ths erwthshs sas isxyristhkate oti den exoyn ginei texnika erga- qa eixame problhmata oxi mono sth Stylida, alla kai se alles perioxes ths Fqiwtidas poy eixan ekdhlwqei ayta ta fainomena to `97 kai den eixame xarh sta erga poy ektelesthkan.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eseis gia th Fqiwtida moy eipate ki egw sas erwtw poy einai h Stylida; Sth Fqiwtida den einai;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw ki egw apo paidi oti h Stylida einai sth Fqiwtida, den exei metakinhqei!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto lew, poy eginan ta erga den katalaba;

REPPAS: Htan fanero apo thn arxh oti gi` ayto to lete, giati qelate na peite oti h Stylida einai sth Fqiwtida!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai se katastash ektaktoy anagkhs h perioxh, gi` ayto to lew.

REPPAS: Htan safes giati rwthsate.

KIAOS: Qelw na moy peite, epeidh anaferqhkate sthn aneyqynothta pollwn kratikwn leitoyrgwn, poioi kratikoi leitoyrgoi, se poioys tomeis kai poios toys elegxei;

REPPAS: Otan yparxoyn idiwtes poy ayqairetoyn kai otan elegxontai gia thn ayqairesia toys, alla se kapoies periptwseis paroysiazoyn bebaiwseis h pistopoihseis oi opoies proerxontai apo dhmosies yphresies, exoyn ekdoqei dhladh apo kratikoys leitoyrgoys -kai milw gia polla xronia prin- antilambaneste pws dikaiologeitai h anafora moy sthn eyqynh poy exoyn oi kratikoi leitoyrgoi.

KIAOS: To "dia tayta" poio einai;

REPPAS: Se opoies periptwseis exei apodeixqei pws eyqynontai paragontes ths Dhmosias Dioikhshs, apodidontai eyqynes, elegxontai, kapoioi apomakrynontai, kapoioi antimetwpizoyn tis poines poy problepontai apo ton Kwdika leitoyrgias ths yphresias toys. Kapoioi omws, isws exoyn diafygei apo ayton ton elegxo. Den einai kati to opoio mporw, ayth thn wra, na anaferw me sygkekrimena stoixeia. Einai omws kati, to opoio mporw basima na ektimhsw, giati antilambaneste oloi oti den qa ftaname s` ayto to adiejodo se olh thn Ellada kai idiaiterws sthn pyknodomhmenh Attikh, an den yphrxe se megalo baqmo to fainomeno ths ayqairesias apo toys idiwtes kai ths paranomhs drasthriothtas toys poy odhghse edw poy odhghse.

KIAOS: Ti mellei genesqai, apo th stigmh poy diapistwnete ayth thn aneyqynothta;

REPPAS: Den einai kainoyrgio fainomeno, k. Kiao...

KIAOS: Anejarthtws aytoy.

REPPAS:... einai fainomeno prohgoymenwn dekaetiwn. Gi` ayto akribws milhsa gia sygkekrimeno programma antiplhmmyrikwn ergwn apo to `94 kai meta. Pisteyw oti exoyme kanei shmantikh proodo kai antimetwpizoyme apotelesmatika ayta ta fainomena.

KIAOS: Epeidh einai programma dekaetiwn shmainei oti ystera apo pente dekaeties pali qa leme ta idia pragmata;

REPPAS: Oxi. Gi` ayto akribws epikalesthka ton poly ypeyqyno kai egkyro logo toy armodioy ypoyrgoy poy eipe oti gia teleytaia xronia qa deite sth Glyfada to fainomeno poy antikrysate kai fetos. Den qa ta blepoyme ayta ta fainomena gia pente, opws eipate, dekaeties, giati yparxei ayth h kybernhsh, h opoia antimetwpizei tis amarties pollwn dekaetiwn kai dinei lyseis sta problhmata ta opoia exoyn swreytei, meta thn ameleia kai thn adiaforia pollwn dekaetiwn, toso idiwtwn, oso kai kratikwn leitoyrgwn.

LAKOPOYLOS: Mia kai eseis anoijate to qema, qelw na sas qymisw oti stis teleytaies plhmmyres toy perasmenoy Martioy eseis o idios mas eixate milhsei gia ereynes poy pragmatopoiei h Dioikhsh, alla kai gia ereynes ths Dikaiosynhs, parallhles ereynes, an katalaba kala, oi opoies anazhtoysan kakotexnies sta antiplhmmyrika erga, anazhtoysan eyqynes kratikwn leitoyrgwn k. lp. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, kai an den mporeite na mas to peite twra, na mas to peite argotera, se poio stadio briskontai aytes oi ereynes.

REPPAS: Oson afora th dikastikh ereyna den eimai armodios na milhsw. Apo ekei kai pera gnwrizete poly kala oti gia thn poiothta twn ergwn, gia tis kakotexnies poy exoyn epishmanqei se dhmosia erga exei milhsei to armodio ypoyrgeio. Giati to armodio ypoyrgeio me seira mhxanismwn h mesw dhmioyrgias newn qesmwn exei egkaqidrysei ena apotelesmatiko plaisio gia na elegxetai h poiothta twn ekteloymenwn ergwn. Kai exoyn parathrhqei fainomena kakotexniwn se erga kyriws perifereiaka, alla kai se megala erga kai bebaiws se antiplhmmyrika erga. Kai exei ejhghsei o armodios ypoyrgos ti ginetai s` aytes tis periptwseis. Epiballontai prostima, ypoxrewsh apokatastashs kai diafores alles poines.

LAKOPOYLOS: Afhste ton armodio Ypoyrgo. Eseis o idios, ton Martio, edw, eixate piqanologhsei me ton tropo poy qesate to qema, an qymamai kala, oti yparxoyn eyqynes kai twn ergolabwn...

REPPAS: Eixa pei oti ginetai ereyna s' ayth thn kateyqynsh.

LAKOPOYLOS: Sas erwtw loipon. Apo to Martio mexri twra exoyn perasei oktw mhnes. Exete ta dioikhtika porismata;

REPPAS: Den diabasate ton katalogo poy edwse to armodio Ypoyrgeio gia erga sta opoia exoyn epishmanqei kakotexnies;

LAKOPOYLOS: Ayto afora to odiko diktyo, an katalaba kala. Miloysame gia th gefyra sto Aigalew, miloysame gia sygkekrimena pragmata.

REPPAS: Afora to synolo twn texnikwn ergwn sta opoia meta apo ereyna epishmanqhkan kakotexnies. Ta erga ayta einai diaforwn kathgoriwn. O Eqnikos Symboylos Poiotikoy Elegxoy (ESPEL) h oi alloi qesmoi oi opoioi leitoyrgoyn me ayto to antikeimeno, epilambanontai, elegxoyn ta erga olwn twn kathgoriwn. Den ejairoyntai ta antiplhmmyrika erga ta opoia exoyn ginei se polles perioxes. Gia paradeigma, ston Khfiso exei ginei ena poly megalo ergo. Ola ayta ta erga elegxontai.

LAKOPOYLOS: Ta porismata poy einai; Yparxoyn porismata kai poy einai;

REPPAS: H ereyna ayth den exei oloklhrwqei, giati den exoyn elegxqei ola ta erga. Enas shmantikos ariqmos ergwn poy exei elegxqei exei odhghsei se ena sygkekrimeno symperasma. Oti se kapoio pososto exoyn ektelestei erga sta opoia parathroyntai kakotexnies. Kai exoyn apodoqei oi eyqynes s' aytoys poy exoyn eyqynes.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, pws skeptetai na antidrasei h ellhnikh Kybernhsh stis nees proklhtikes qeseis ths Toyrkias, h opoia oxi aplws diekdikei, alla se xartes ths deixnei oti ths anhkoyn pente megala ellhnika nhsia.

REPPAS: Pisteyw oti h biomhxania propagandas ths Toyrkias, para tis filotimes prospaqeies poy kataballei den exei katorqwsei mexri shmera na paraplanhsei ton kosmo gia to poia einai h istorikh pragmatikothta. Ti einai ayto to opoio perilambanoyn oi Synqhkes gia to kaqestws ths perioxhs. Apo kei kai pera, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh ths ekdoshs enos xarth kai malista apo epishmes toyrkikes arxes, ston opoio anaferetai oti ellhnika nhsia anhkoyn sthn Toyrkia, pisteyw oti exoyme mia akraia geloiopoihsh ths toyrkikhs propagandas. Aytes einai oi lejeis oi opoies tairiazoyn sthn peristash. "Akraia geloiopoihsh" ths toyrkikhs propagandas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prokeitai h ellhnikh Kybernhsh na diamartyrhqei gi' ayto to pragma; Giati einai epishmo, opws eipate.

REPPAS: To qema ayto to exei antimetwpisei, hdh, h ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Exei kanei tis deoyses energeies. Gnwrizete oti o xarths aytos exei epikriqei kai sto eswteriko ths Toyrkias. Oloi milhsan gia mia terastia gkafa twn arxwn poy empneysthkan ayto to egxeirhma, afoy paroysiazei oxi mono ellhnika nhsia na anhkoyn sthn Toyrkia -ara etsi oi idioi anatrepoyn teleiws thn prospaqeia poy kanei h Toyrkia gia na prowqhsei ta propagandistika ths plana- alla paroysiazei kai to Iran kai to Irak na exoyn diaforetikh qesh, opws kai alles geitonikes xwres na briskontai alloy apo thn pragmatikh synoriakh toys qesh se sxesh me thn Toyrkia. Kalo einai na antimetwpizoyme ayta ta pragmata sth swsth diastash toys. Prokeitai peri akraias geloiopoihshs ths toyrkikhs propagandas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: To epishmo kratos den to aposyrei ayto, to moirazei stis ekdhlwseis poy kanei gia ta 75 xronia ths toyrkikhs dhmokratias. Synexizei na to moirazei ayto.

REPPAS: Malista. Poia einai h erwthsh sas;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oti to epishmo kratos den exei antidrasei. Mporei h DAILY NEWS h agglikh ekdosh ths toyrkikhs efhmeridas na egrace ayta poy egrace. Poies energeies exoyn ginei kai pote;

REPPAS: An anamenete emeis oi idioi na analaboyme na syllegoyme ta antitypa ta opoia moirazontai prokeimenoy na mh diakinhqoyn kai kykloforhsoyn, den qa to kanoyme. Gnwrizete poios einai o tropos me ton opoio oi xwres epikoinwnoyn kai epishmainoyn ta problhmata ta opoia h mia diapistwnei oti yparxoyn apo energeies poy exei jekinhsei h allh. To idio ginetai kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Qa moy epitrecete, omws, kai sas kalw kai esas na meinete s' ayto to shmeio, h qesh mas sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh na einai mia kai na einai safhs. Prokeitai peri akraias geloiopoihshs ths toyrkikhs propagandas.

KARAMPASHS: Prokyptei ena qema me thn prwth synenteyjh toy Otsalan, meta thn apofash toy italikoy dikasthrioy na teqei se kat' oikon periorismo. Kalei ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo na ejhghsei toys baqyteroys logoys gia th stash toy sto ellhniko aerodromio. Mporei na mas pei h Kybernhsh ti akribws egine telika sto aerodromio kai ti ennoei o k. Otsalan;

REPPAS: Gia to ti ennoei o k. Otsalan, na rwthsete ton k. Otsalan. H ellhnikh Kybernhsh gnwrizei pws den exei prokycei tetoio qema poy na afora ton k. Otsalan kai na ton taytizei me to aerodromio ths Aqhnas. Apo kei kai pera, epeidh exw dei kai egw ta sxetika deltia -eite einai h synenteyjh, eite einai oi sxoliasmoi poy eginan me aformh th synenteyjh- sas lew oti polles ermhneies dinontai, einai kati to opoio omws afora aytoys poy dinoyn ermhneies h diatypwnoyn apoceis. Emeis den epitrepetai na mpoyme s' ayto to xoro twn ermhneiwn. Emeis qa meinoyme se mia ypeyqynh qesh thn opoia exoyme diatypwsei kai gnwrizete.

KARAMPASHS: Oti den perase apo thn Aqhna.

REPPAS: Den prokyptei tetoio qema.

KARAMPASHS: Epishma den prokyptei.

REPPAS: Emeis exoyme pei me safhneia poia einai h qesh mas epi toy sygkekrimenoy

qematos. Oxi h politikh qesh, h qesh alhqeias, h istorikh alhqeia epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos, mia kai milame gia ena gegonos poy einai shmantiko.

KACAMPELHS: Poio einai to gegonos;

REPPAS: To gegonos afora thn kinhsh toy Koyrdoy hgeth thn teleytaia periodo, me telikh ejelijh na brisketai shmera sthn Italia. Ayto einai ena gegonos poy exei mia istorikh diastash gia toys Koyrdoys, alla kai gia th Dieqnh Koinothta. M' ayth thn ennoia.

KACAMPELHS: Eseis lete dhladh oti den perase kaqoloy apo thn Aqhna.

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin ston k. Karampash, gi' ayto.

KACAMPELHS: Perase h den perase;

REPPAS: Asfalws apanthsa s' ayto kai lypoymai an me kaleite na epanerxomai kai na dinw apanthseis se erwthseis stis opoies exw apanthsei. Ayto kati shmainei.

KACAMPELHS: Meta qa doyme ti shmainei. Peite mas perase h den perase;

REPPAS: Apanthsa prin. Den exei prokycei tetoio qema. Asfalws, den perase. Den to eipe apo thn prwth mera o k. Nikolaoy; Den epanhlqa egw kat' epanalhch kai edwsa ayth thn apanthsh;

KARAMPASHS: Ennoeite epishma den perase apo to aerodromio;

REPPAS: Allh erwthsh. Alla, ekfrazw th lyph moy, giati enw h apanthsh poy edwsa htan safhs kai apedide ayto poy hqela na pw, epanerxeste kai zhtate na apanthsw epi toy qematos gia to opoio exw apanthsei. Den nomizw oti ayto einai orqh diadikasia.

SOYRMELIDHS: Giati yparxoyn neoteres dhlwseis.

REPPAS: Gia neoteres dhlwseis rwthse o synadelfos sas. Exete eseis neoteres dhlwseis;

SOYRMELIDHS: Oxi.

REPPAS: Gia tis xqesines dhlwseis ekane logo kai o k. Karampashs. Loipon, den yparxoyn neoteres dhlwseis. Einai aytes gia tis opoies milhse kai o k. Karampashs. Poies einai oi neoteres dhlwseis stis opoies anafereste; Synexiste k. Karampash.

KARAMPASHS: Dhladh, s' ayto to shmeio h ellhnikh Kybernhsh den exei na apanthsei, tipota ston k. Otsalan;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh Kybernhsh exei na apanthsei ayto to opoio exoyme apanthsei hdh.

KARAMPASHS: Ena deytero skelos afora mia stash twn Ellhnwn Moysoylmanwn boyleytwn, oi opoioi taytizontai me tis toyrkikes qeseis gia to qema Otsalan. Yparxei kapoio sxolio;

REPPAS: Oi Ellhnes boyleytes exoyn eklegei apo ton ellhniko lao kai exoyn to dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, mporw na epishmanw oti oi synadelfoi poy exoyn deijei mia ayjhmenh eyaisqhsia gia dikaiwmata sympolitwn toys sthn perioxh ths Qrakhs, den fainetai na deixnoyn thn idia eyaisqhsia ekei poy yparxei pragmatiko problhma. To problhma poy afora ta anqrwpina dikaiwmata sthn Toyrkia, to sebasmo, dhladh, twn dikaiwmatwn twn Koyrdwn poy zoyn sthn Toyrkia. Kai kanei entypwsh to oti, h stash Ellhnwn boyleytwn syndeetai me tis ejelijeis poy aforoyn mia geitonikh, allh xwra, oxi thn Ellada. Ayto einai ena fainomeno poy dhmioyrgei pragmatika mia arnhtikh entypwsh. Bebaiws, oi boyleytes exoyn aperioristo to dikaiwma na ekfrazoyn th gnwmh toys kai krinontai apo ton ellhniko lao. Prepei na epishmanoyme, omws, oti gia na einai peistikh h qesh poy kaqe fora anaptyssoyme, qa prepei na apodeiknyei mia synepeia, h opoia, sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, den yparxei.

BITSENTZOY: Qelw na rwthsw ean to "tranzit" qewreitai Aqhna h oxi.

REPPAS: Asfalws qewreitai Aqhna. Egw milhsa gia to aerodromio ths Aqhnas. Thn erwthsh poy eqese o k. Karampashs, thn eqese milwntas gia to aerodromio ths Aqhnas.

BLAXOS: Yparxei periptwsh na perase apo allo, dhladh;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw gia o, tidhpote exei sxesh me aerodromia ektos Elladas.

BLAXOS: Ennow ektos Aqhnas, oxi ektos Elladas!

REPPAS: Den hmoyn safhs s' ayto poy eipa;

BLAXOS: Oxi.

REPPAS: Den hmoyn safhs;

BLAXOS: Milhsate mono gia thn Aqhna.

REPPAS: Kai twra, molis prin, ti eipa; Den eipa gia aerodromia ektos Elladas;

MIXAHL: Lete oti o k. Otsalan den perase apo kanena ellhniko aerodromio. Apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro perase;

REPPAS: Den doqhke shma stis armodies yphresies oti kapoio aeroplano to opoio metaferei to sygkekrimeno paragonta, prokeitai na perasei apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro.

MIXAHL: Oi ellhnikes diplwmatikes Arxes sth Mosxa h se opoiadhpote allh xwra eginan dektes aithmatos eite na perasei tranzit, eite na perasei apo ton ellhniko enaerio xwro gia na kateyqynqei sthn Italia;

REPPAS: Oxi.

KACAMPELHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ston Otsalan profanws den qelete na apanthsete. Omws, prin apo ton Otsalan yphrje dhlwsh stelexoys toy kommatos sas, poy prosdiorize hmera, wra kai perigrafh toy gegonotos toy Otsalan. Ayto den shmainei kati; To oti prin apo ton Otsalan, dyo-treis hmeres prin, yparxei dhlwsh stelexoys toy PASOK, poy leei, poy perigrafei....

REPPAS: Egw gnwrizw polla stelexh poy gia diafora qemata lene tis apoceis toys, me tis opoies den einai aparaithto na symfwnoyme panta. Poly perissotero otan oi apoceis aytes den sthrizontai se pragmatikh bash. Apo kei kai pera, to ti eipe kapoio stelexos, afora to idio to stelexos. Apeyqynqeite sto sygkekrimeno stelexos. Egw den exw na sxoliasw toys isxyrismoys, tis apoceis opoioydhpote alloy.

KARAMPASHS: Mia dieykrinish: Ean o k. Otsalan me th synodo toy, th grammatea toy ka Laser, oi opoioi yposthrizoyn oti perasan apo to aerodromio toy ellhnikoy, perasan me plasta diabathria, qa htan se gnwsh ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Pisteyw pws nai.

FILHS: O Otsalan brisketai sthn Italia. H ellhnikh kybernhsh phre kateyqynseis apo thn italikh kybernhsh h prokeitai na parei kapoies prwtoboylies gia to Koyrdiko, se eyrwpaiko h allo epipedo;

REPPAS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh se epikairh stigmh -xwris na exoyn prokycei oi teleytaies ejelijeis- exei anadeijei to qema poy apasxolei toys Koyrdoys ths Toyrkias, ws qema katapathshs twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn. Exei qesei to qema sthn E. E. Giati pisteyoyme oti apotelei stoixeio kai taytoxrona krithrio gia tis eyrwtoyrkikes sxeseis. Einai kati to opoio gnwrizete. To gnwrizei kai h dieqnhs koinothta. H ellhnikh kybernhsh eqese tetoio qema gia prwth fora kai malista me poly entono kai prowqhmeno tropo. Apo kei kai pera oi xeirismoi stoys opoioys exei probei h italikh Kybernhsh, einai xeirismoi poy deixnoyn oti sthn Italia ginetai sebasto to Dieqnes Dikaio, oti h kybernhsh kai h geitonikh xwra leitoyrgoyn me bash tis arxes kai toys kanones leitoyrgias ths E. E. Qa prepei kai h Toyrkia na antilhfqei oti h E. E. einai ena synolo xwrwn poy leitoyrgoyn me bash kapoies ajies kai oti to plaisio twn eyrwtoyrkikwn sxesewn qa diarragei ean oi ajies kai oi arxes aytes den ginontai sebastes kai apo thn Toyrkia. Giati h eikona poy paroysiazetai, me ta epeisodia kai ta ektropa poy ekdhlwnontai sto eswteriko ths Toyrkias, einai mia eikona poy kamia sxesh den exei me xwra poy filodojei na entaxqei sthn E. E. Ayto einai safes.

FILHS: Prokeitai na synedriasei sthn Aqhna to "Koinoboylio" twn Koyrdwn;

REPPAS: Den exei prokycei tetoio qema. Den nomizw oti eimaste mprosta se mia tetoia ejelijh.

FILHS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh exei kapoio problhma me ayth thn piqanh ejelijh;

REPPAS: Den exei antimetwpisei tetoio endexomeno h ellhnikh kybernhsh.

FILHS: Prokeitai to PASOK kai oi kybernhtikes dynameis na paroyn prwtoboylies sto eyrwpaiko koinoboylio, wste oles oi pteryges h oi perissoteres pteryges toy eyrwkoinoboylioy na katadikasoyn thn ejelijh...

REPPAS: Oi Ellhnes eyrwboyleytes den perimenan ypodeijh apo thn Aqhna. Exoyn analabei tetoies prwtoboylies. Gnwrizete oti exei ginei sxetikh syzhthsh. Apo kei kai pera sto plaisio ths E. E. exoyme ki emeis th syneisfora mas, doqentos oti h aystriakh proedria exei ekfrasei sygkekrimenh qesh, krinontas toys xeirismoys poy ekane h italikh kybernhsh. Kalyptoyn, ekfrazoyn ki emas ta sxolia ayta.

POYLIDOY: Diaceydete h epibebaiwnete thn plhroforia poy metedwse xqes to RIK, gia mhnyma Shmith pros ton Proedro Klhridh, gia mh egkatastash twn rwsikwn pyraylwn sthn Kypro;

REPPAS: Epeidh rwthqhka apo synadelfoys sas xqes peri yparjhs epistolhs toy k. Shmith pros ton k. Klhridh, sas lew oti den yparxei tetoia epistolh. Apo kei kai pera den yparxei allh epikoinwnia. Mesw toy presbh ths Elladas sthn Kypro, eginan oi synennohseis gia thn eleysh sthn Aqhna toy k. Klhridh. Den yparxei o, tidhpote allo to opoio na mporei kapoios na pei oti apotelei kai meros toy oysiastikoy periexomenoy twn syzhthsewn poy qa ginoyn sthn Aqhna. Ola ta sxetika qemata poy aforoyn to Kypriako -to eipame allwste xqes- qa syzhthqoyn kata thn epikeimenh episkech sthn Aqhna toy k. Klhridh.

Eyxaristw poly.

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